Originally Posted by juggernaut

If I had a daughter, I'd put her through a wall if she was this way.

Originally Posted by DontStop

It's a male characteristic, sure, but can you blame them?

Originally Posted by goob

Sholud say, If you had a daughter.....


..She'd probably be knocking up against a wall right now........

Originally Posted by juggernaut

there was a girl in high school years ago who would fuck anything that walked. I heard she liked me and I had the opportunity to do her. We got to the area where all HS students would fuck around, and I couldnt do it. Here was a butt naked girl, waiting on a table, legs spread eagle, and i couldnt do it. I dont know if it was the fear "of the AIDS"-back then this disease was scaring the shit out of everyone, or I had a guilt thing going.

Regardless, I didnt do it.I cant understand what makes a person spread her legs in the few minutes that you know them, other than the obvious. I had one night stands in my time and I played the field for years before settling down, but it just doesnt seem right to do this to a girl.

Does this make sense?

Originally Posted by juggernaut

there was a girl in high school years ago who would fuck anything that walked. I heard she liked me and I had the opportunity to do her. We got to the area where all HS students would fuck around, and I couldnt do it. Here was a butt naked girl, waiting on a table, legs spread eagle, and i couldnt do it. I dont know if it was the fear "of the AIDS"-back then this disease was scaring the shit out of everyone, or I had a guilt thing going.

Regardless, I didnt do it.I cant understand what makes a person spread her legs in the few minutes that you know them, other than the obvious. I had one night stands in my time and I played the field for years before settling down, but it just doesnt seem right to do this to a girl.

Does this make sense?

Originally Posted by Jodi

Standards and morals seem to be going down the drain these days. It's absolutely disgusting.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I think the actions have always been there, only this time, there are no secrets.

Being open about sex is ok, but literally? And open all night?

Originally Posted by dg806

Yep!
There is a 13 yr old girl in my town that is screwing around with guys. She is constantly in trouble...........keying cars ect........I know her mom and she is totally fustrated with her. Can't do anything with her and she has tried to get the courts to do something. So far, nothing. But I think we have enough on her now that we can do something with her. Her mom wants her taking away!!

Originally Posted by Little Wing

i think a lot of it is a response to what the average young male seems to want, n a lot of the older ones too, sex with no strings. it's not "cool" to want to be exclusive or be in love so girls learn to hide those feelings. n if they say they don't secretly long for more they are full of shit.

Originally Posted by Ab Warsame

Originally Posted by Blooming Lotus

Thats pretty sad. Myy daughter is 13 and I would be morrtified if I thought that was going on for her and untended by appropriate counsel.

As far as screwing around when you're young goes though, unfortunately without alot of reeally clear advice and chit chats coupled with example - and not juust in terms of that aspect of life- what not alot of ppl ever get privvy to - that just tends to become part of the learning experience of what works and what doesn't in life.
It 's not just girls and women who think it's uncool to care - with the heart on your sleeve b.s. that ppl who haven't figured it out sometimes throw at ppl trying to - it goes for men and boys aswell.

Personally I think sex is great. Hot dirty sex at that. Howevver, it's not until a person actually cares enough and feels cared for baack enough that it clicks that promiscuity is no longer going to serve them.. and then as that revelation unfolds, comes whatever ellse a person has to sort out in their lives to also serve that new realisation. ..even if it means loosing several of them in figuring out and completing each aspect in the meantime.

For myself, a big part of nott doing that today is because - despite my often quietly ragingly needing mojo and otherwise hot babes I would lovve to take to bed for a few weeks of sweet sweaty athleticly delicious fun ( :/)- there comes a point for some of us where hurting ppl and getting hurt and preventing each party from having something better than a detatched screwbuddy- as hot and otherwise self-destructively fun as that can be- gets boring and too emotionally tiring to bother with in lieu of something worth the distraction in lifefrom activities that are more in line with one's or one's parrtners passions and betterment in life...to have a situation later that dooes include all that hot sex and long term emotional satisifaction that it seems to be in lieu of - except by then it's ideally hotter aanyway and worth having long term and having had to work and go without for...so the theory goes.


As a buddhist and single mother and sister and teacher and friend , I often find that really sad to see in society. It's absolutely rapmant and further it's alot bigger of a problem and psychological epidemic with far reaching consequences in the way ppl put their lives togther than might superficially appear.
So much so that after running into one too many abused / neglected and "messed up " lives of children and adults having grown up with but not supported or guided out of that condition, and not just at home in Australia, but throughout the world as I travelled teaching and training with various gurus as I taught and lectured and mingled from group and age and social bracket to bracket and culture and sub-culture to sub-culture, I have made it my personal mission to undertake a Ph.D. in re-writing education curriculum and syllabus programs to present to various govt. and education bodies to reeducate future ( and current if I can find the right effective media) generations on the new drum about what we have gleaned from the internet birth and mutli - media explosion of information and data surrounding abuse and neglect and divorce stats and so on that previous generations have never had benefit from.

It's too too often reeally really difficult for ppl to know what to do for themselves and others in these types of situations without having good role models around nor clear explainations on the pros and cons and point of doing either or over another course of action in this regard and in my opinion, no-one is exempt from having to , at some stage or other confront the issues surrounding it.


All Ii can suggest at this point is in regard to people around you, if you are concerned for aanyone in this regard, do feel free to either set an example yoursellf or where appropriate offer some words of guidance and or support to the effect of where they might like to take their life otherwise and what the reasons for that might be. That is often muuch more difficult than it sounds, and not always recieved so well, but well worth the effort regardless of reception and even if they only progress in baby steps over a lonng period or get no further than to have that seed planted to come back for later, .. and even if it means familiarising oneself with their parrents relationship situation to understand where the behavioural template might've had root - lots of intrusive fun - it gives someone a better chance at something they may not've otherwise had.
.. I doo believe everyone deserves a chance at love and a good healthy relationship and doo be assured that morals doo still exist and there are many many plenty of us out here upholding those and doing what we can to help others understand them.

Blooming tianshi lotus.

Originally Posted by KelJu

all of the hot girls I have met lately are club rats, and that conflicts with my goals.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

agreed, BL. As a special ed high school teacher, I see this all too often. Parents are sometimes not ready to be parents, and sometimes the parents are the fault! Apple doesnt fall far from the tree kind of thing.

Originally Posted by DontStop

women are becoming less and less shy about their sexual wants/needs.
Nothing wrong with it at all. It's a male characteristic, sure, but can you blame them?

Originally Posted by Little Wing

i think a lot of it is a response to what the average young male seems to want, n a lot of the older ones too, sex with no strings. it's not "cool" to want to be exclusive or be in love so girls learn to hide those feelings. n if they say they don't secretly long for more they are full of shit.

Originally Posted by KelJu

I don't give a shit. I use to, but now I am of the opinion that unless I am in a relationship with a girl, I don't give a shit what she does. I also don't give a shit what a girl has done before she dated me. There is shit in my past that I am nto the least bti proud of, so why be a hypocrite and judge her?

I'm just desperate to find a chick that I can tolerate for more than 30 minutes. I don't want to party, I don't want to stay out until 3:00 in the morning. I want to train in the gym, do well in school, and do well in my job, but all of the hot girls I have met lately are club rats, and that conflicts with my goals.

Originally Posted by Blooming Lotus

well who raised the parents and why'd theey miss that in raising theeir kids then??

p.s. it's talking about ..none of your godamming business is what.. oh.. and Lol @ 33. I might use that myself ...kidding.. myy poor kid gets lectured for hrrrrrs so she normally just gives in so I'll shut up. win win

Originally Posted by bigss75

Where are all these sluts at, some of the girls Ive been around lately are the exact opposite, the ones that you would have to wine and dine for a year before they would have sex with you.

Ive found out that without the social lubricant, alcohol, random hookups are pretty impossible

Originally Posted by KelJu

I don't give a shit. I use to, but now I am of the opinion that unless I am in a relationship with a girl, I don't give a shit what she does. I also don't give a shit what a girl has done before she dated me. There is shit in my past that I am nto the least bti proud of, so why be a hypocrite and judge her?

I'm just desperate to find a chick that I can tolerate for more than 30 minutes. I don't want to party, I don't want to stay out until 3:00 in the morning. I want to train in the gym, do well in school, and do well in my job, but all of the hot girls I have met lately are club rats, and that conflicts with my goals.

Originally Posted by Plateau_Max

Amen brother. To me it seems it's the really attractive ones that I would consider "my type" physically... are the ones who are club rats, or brainless, or have 100+ friends 90% of which are GUYS, or all of the above. All those things bother me.

I really don't approve of how slutty young girls are these days. The part that bothers me the most about a lot of girls is when you talk to them about it, it's almost impossible to get them to realize it's wrong.

Originally Posted by DontStop

women are becoming less and less shy about their sexual wants/needs.
Nothing wrong with it at all. It's a male characteristic, sure, but can you blame them?

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I think its a way of practicing mind over matter. If the girls dont care about what theyre doing...well thats just it...they wont care. I honestly wish I had more 'careless' feelings in me.

Ever notice people that spit out the expression "i dont care" about situations are the same idiots that dwell on those subjects that they "dont care" about? Even I catch myself doing it.

I dont care if a girl is a whore, in fact, I can feed off of it. However, when it comes to dating....no one wants a whore.

Originally Posted by AKIRA

I think its a way of practicing mind over matter. If the girls dont care about what theyre doing...well thats just it...they wont care. I honestly wish I had more 'careless' feelings in me.

Ever notice people that spit out the expression "i dont care" about situations are the same idiots that dwell on those subjects that they "dont care" about? Even I catch myself doing it.

I dont care if a girl is a whore, in fact, I can feed off of it. However, when it comes to dating....no one wants a whore.

Originally Posted by cheesegrater

i know a couple 19,20, 21 year old girls and sex to them is just like the most casual thing ever....tag teamed by two dudes is nothing at all. they have a boyfriend, then the 2nd boyfriend, then maybe even a fuck buddy....and they aren't, at least visibly, harmed emotionally or psychologically by any of the random sex...and these are the nice, normal type girls, not the ones who are outwardly slutty...what the fuck happened between when i was 19 and the ten years since? because they dont seem to be the slightest bit harmed by it, i cant even call it slutty, it's more like obscene amounts of horniness or something...have the gloves completely come off and there are just no more rules or sexual morals anymore?

Originally Posted by Crono1000

The moral of the story? Just cuz you couldn't get a girl to pee in your hair while you fucked a girl in the ear with your dog having his way with her leg resting on a masterbating clown-nurse licking peanut butter out of the crack of a vietnamese siamese twin amputee's chin cleavage back in your day, don't fuck it up for the rest of us who can!

Originally Posted by Big Donkey

Are these things you hear about or are these things that you are invovled in?
You know you want to join in on the action too if you are not already. I say bounce from bed to bed to bed until you have achieved your goals in life and are ready to settle down. Always use protection.

Originally Posted by Mista

Originally Posted by KelJu

Why the rolleyes on thta statement mista?

Originally Posted by Uthinkso

There is a dame at my work, and dear god. She hangs around multiple groups of guys all the time. "Has a good time" as she calls it (she's come clean about her goings on with these fellas). She comes from a good upbringing and all, but is a total push over and impressed by the simplest things. Its sad really to see such an empty vessle go through life and grab her ankles for any guy she meets.

Originally Posted by KelJu

If she's cute, she can grab those ankles and I'll fill that empty vessel right up.

Originally Posted by cheesegrater

i know a couple 19,20, 21 year old girls and sex to them is just like the most casual thing ever....tag teamed by two dudes is nothing at all. they have a boyfriend, then the 2nd boyfriend, then maybe even a fuck buddy....and they aren't, at least visibly, harmed emotionally or psychologically by any of the random sex...and these are the nice, normal type girls, not the ones who are outwardly slutty...what the fuck happened between when i was 19 and the ten years since? because they dont seem to be the slightest bit harmed by it, i cant even call it slutty, it's more like obscene amounts of horniness or something...have the gloves completely come off and there are just no more rules or sexual morals anymore?

Originally Posted by irglen

Sex is just that, nothing more. Its a fun past time for 2 ( or if your lucky more ) people. Yes ok if you have feelings for the other person / persons then yeh cool its going to mean something a lot more but thats the difference between f**king and making love.
The people that call girls whores and men studs are nothing more than semi evolved apes that cant see past the society they live in, i think ill blame religion for that.
Im sure everyone will agree that 13 is way to young, but for this i blame the parents, children are born an empty book and it IS the parents that fill it in, My son is now 12 and he knows the difference between right and wrong because his mother and myself put it there.

Originally Posted by cheesegrater

i know a couple 19,20, 21 year old girls and sex to them is just like the most casual thing ever....tag teamed by two dudes is nothing at all. they have a boyfriend, then the 2nd boyfriend, then maybe even a fuck buddy....and they aren't, at least visibly, harmed emotionally or psychologically by any of the random sex...and these are the nice, normal type girls, not the ones who are outwardly slutty...what the fuck happened between when i was 19 and the ten years since? because they dont seem to be the slightest bit harmed by it, i cant even call it slutty, it's more like obscene amounts of horniness or something...have the gloves completely come off and there are just no more rules or sexual morals anymore?