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Will stay at this weight prevent long-term goals?

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Posted by: motionman04

Currently, I'm at 155 lbs, at 5'8". Honestly, I think I prefer keeping my weight around 150 lbs for the long run, but my question is, will I continue to see gains in the gym with a diet maintaining that weight? Or is bulking up a bit my best bet for that?



Posted by: IainDaniel

So you are wanting to get bigger without gaining any weight?



Posted by: soxmuscle

Even if you gain lean muscle mass, you'll still gain weight. I'm guessing you're fine with whatever weight you'll be at, so long as you don't gain fat. In that case, read the stickies, get your diet intact and you're on your way.



Posted by: P-funk

if by gains in the gym you mean get stronger, then yes, you can work to make strength gains regardless of your body weight. However, you may reach a ceiling where getting stronger is going to require you to increase some cross sectional area. So, there may be a time where size is going to be your limiting factor.

If muscle size is the glass, and strength is the water that fills the glass, when you get to a certain point in your training career, you may find that you need a taller glass if you want to hold more water.



Posted by: Double D

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If muscle size is the glass, and strength is the water that fills the glass, when you get to a certain point in your training career, you may find that you need a taller glass if you want to hold more water.
You suck!!! Easily the best post I have ever read!!!



Posted by: motionman04

well that pretty much answers my question, despite the few exceptions, I guess you really don't see too many small guys putting up big weight.



Posted by: P-funk

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well that pretty much answers my question, despite the few exceptions, I guess you really don't see too many small guys putting up big weight.
go to a powerlifting meet or an olympic lifting meet and say that.



Posted by: motionman04

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go to a powerlifting meet or an olympic lifting meet and say that.
I've seen guys like that, do they ever reach ceilings because of their smaller size?



Posted by: P-funk

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I've seen guys like that, do they ever reach ceilings because of their smaller size?
a)sometimes they gain size and lift in heavier classes.

b) sometimes you are seeing them after gaining size (even though they ar still really light) and in their higher class, as some of them are very short.

c) some have great genetics.

d) some have great drugs



Posted by: motionman04

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a)sometimes they gain size and lift in heavier classes.

b) sometimes you are seeing them after gaining size (even though they ar still really light) and in their higher class, as some of them are very short.

c) some have great genetics.

d) some have great drugs

Makes sense. In my case, can someone who is 150 lbs reach a benchpress of around 225+ and a squat of over 300 lbs (currently a bit over 200 and 260) at that same size without the help of C or D, with a good workout and diet?



Posted by: P-funk

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Makes sense. In my case, can someone who is 150 lbs reach a benchpress of around 225+ and a squat of over 300 lbs (currently a bit over 200 and 260) at that same size without the help of C or D, with a good workout and diet?
I don't see why not at all.

just set up a program that helps you get those results.



Posted by: motionman04

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I don't see why not at all.

just set up a program that helps you get those results.
Thats good to hear, I was kind of unsure, I was reading a thread at another forum and a lot of the guys were saying that maintaining your weight leads to no gains.



Posted by: KentDog

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Makes sense. In my case, can someone who is 150 lbs reach a benchpress of around 225+ and a squat of over 300 lbs (currently a bit over 200 and 260) at that same size without the help of C or D, with a good workout and diet?
I did the first a few years ago.



Posted by: motionman04

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I did the first a few years ago.
I heard some people say that low weight can cause plateau's, in your case did you just do the usual things to overcome any plateau's?



Posted by: P-funk

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Thats good to hear, I was kind of unsure, I was reading a thread at another forum and a lot of the guys were saying that maintaining your weight leads to no gains.
what are these sites? give me their names. i want them now!



Posted by: KentDog

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I heard some people say that low weight can cause plateau's, in your case did you just do the usual things to overcome any plateau's?
At the time, I actually did not care so much about numbers as much as I did about losing or gaining weight. I had been doing 215 for sets of 3-5 toward the end of my cut (where I dropped to around 150 lb), and stayed on those numbers during my bulk up to 170.

Since then, I have changed my program drastically. At the moment, I don't work chest as much, so am not pressing anywhere near those numbers, as I've changed my rep range, and don't flat bench (decline and incline bench for me right now).

I get what you are asking though. I think I will be in the same boat as you in a few years after I reach the weight I want to stay at. I have thought about it to an extent and will likely be keeping a close eye on my calorie intake so I don't gain more weight but will try to gain power.



Posted by: motionman04

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At the time, I actually did not care so much about numbers as much as I did about losing or gaining weight. I had been doing 215 for sets of 3-5 toward the end of my cut (where I dropped to around 150 lb), and stayed on those numbers during my bulk up to 170.

Since then, I have changed my program drastically. At the moment, I don't work chest as much, so am not pressing anywhere near those numbers, as I've changed my rep range, and don't flat bench (decline and incline bench for me right now).

I get what you are asking though. I think I will be in the same boat as you in a few years after I reach the weight I want to stay at. I have thought about it to an extent and will likely be keeping a close eye on my calorie intake so I don't gain more weight but will try to gain power.
Yeah, I mean I'm honestly happy being at this weight and size, so I want to work strictly with power. If I do end up gaining mass out of that, its fine by me, since I know it would be muscle.



Posted by: motionman04

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what are these sites? give me their names. i want them now!
haha, the thread was: Getting Big on Maintenance Calories Possible? - Wanna Be Big Bodybuilding and Weightlifting Forums, but reading it over again, I think it has more to do with gaining size than strength.



Posted by: Double D

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haha, the thread was: Getting Big on Maintenance Calories Possible? - Wanna Be Big Bodybuilding and Weightlifting Forums, but reading it over again, I think it has more to do with gaining size than strength.
Ya thats a bad place to go....whenever you go to forums that are focused more torwards bodybuilding compared to strength or athletic training thats the kind of rubish you will get!








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