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Corkscrew method

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Posted by: GoLdeN M 07

Has anyone heard of the corkscrew method explained in the Naked Warrior by Pavel? I bought the book a while ago, it is really cool and helpful, and I found the corkscrew method to be pretty damn nice as well, considering it springs you right up in a pushup instead of you doing any work at all. Does it actually increase strength since it is a cheating method because I was curious on why it would show it in that book?

If it does help increase strength, then I am definately going to try it out with benching.



Posted by: CowPimp

Would you care to explain exactly what it is? That is a pretty vague question.

Also, Pavel is a smart guy, it can't hurt to give the advice a try.



Posted by: GoLdeN M 07

Its basically just twisting your right hand clockwise and your left hand counter clockwise during pushups but having your hands gripped hard enough to the ground that your hands do not move at all, but you feel the spiraling in your shoulders hence springing you right up with very little pushing needed.
I think it should have it in some searches on google, if you dont understand. Basically as you move up, do the twisting. Its called the corkscrew because you are screwing the shoulder joint into the socket.



Posted by: Witchblade

How is that possible with a bar in your hands? The bar can't be twisted.



Posted by: Gazhole

That sounds pretty dangerous to me...



Posted by: IainDaniel

Basically like a push-up plus?



Posted by: GoLdeN M 07

Nothing is supposed to be twisted, youre not supposed to move your hands.
You are supposed to grip something with your fingers hard enough so if you were to twist your hands they would not move, and you would feel the twist inside your arms-shoulders. And you are twisting your hands in opposite directions (right hand-clockwise, left hand-counterclockwise).

Ok, heres a good tip. With the BB, ofcourse you cannot break the BB in half, but attempt to in your workout throughtout the reps ( as if it is a fragile stick and you are going to snap it in half with your hands).
ANd do the same thing with pushups
And no, it is not dangerous.

Attempt to move your hands in opposite directions (right hand-clockwise, left hand-counterclockwise) without it actually happening since your fingers are gripped hard to the ground, preventing it from happening. Its not that hard.

Tips like this can be used for enhancing any pushing exercise, even for squats. Martial Artists used this while punching to easily increase the speed and power of it.



Posted by: GoLdeN M 07

Just curious but does anyone want to know or take advantage of this method or does nobody give a shit?



Posted by: Witchblade

I'll try it sunday for the bench press. I've heard of it before, but I just knew it as 'attempt to break the bar'.



Posted by: ALBOB

You're supposed to do that WHILE you're bench pressing?!?!? That sounds like a destroyed shoulder or wrist just waiting to happen.



Posted by: GoLdeN M 07

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Originally Posted by ALBOB View Post
You're supposed to do that WHILE you're bench pressing?!?!? That sounds like a destroyed shoulder or wrist just waiting to happen.
alright then do them with pushups.



Posted by: P-funk

you mean trying to pull the bar apart?



Posted by: ALBOB

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07 View Post
alright then do them with pushups.
What's the difference? A pushup is just an upside down benchpress. By trying to twist your wrists while doing a pressing movement it seems to me you're putting your shoulder in a very vulnerable state. I'm not saying it's actually dangerous, I'm just saying it SOUNDS dangerous.



Posted by: AKIRA

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07 View Post
Nothing is supposed to be twisted, youre not supposed to move your hands.
You are supposed to grip something with your fingers hard enough so if you were to twist your hands they would not move, and you would feel the twist inside your arms-shoulders. And you are twisting your hands in opposite directions (right hand-clockwise, left hand-counterclockwise).

Ok, heres a good tip. With the BB, ofcourse you cannot break the BB in half, but attempt to in your workout throughtout the reps ( as if it is a fragile stick and you are going to snap it in half with your hands).
ANd do the same thing with pushups
And no, it is not dangerous.

Attempt to move your hands in opposite directions (right hand-clockwise, left hand-counterclockwise) without it actually happening since your fingers are gripped hard to the ground, preventing it from happening. Its not that hard.

Tips like this can be used for enhancing any pushing exercise, even for squats. Martial Artists used this while punching to easily increase the speed and power of it.
Eh. I just dont see the point. Almost like another gimmick to sell.

K.I.S.S.



Posted by: GoLdeN M 07

ok.



Posted by: Witchblade

AFAIK, it's not a gimmick and it's not dangerous either. Some Powerlifters use it.



Posted by: AKIRA

It just doesnt make sense to me. I mean, whats the function of it? Does it increase the lift or does it cause a burn?

It reminds me of doing those forearm workouts with rolling a rope onto a bar. Most people extend their arms out to do it rather than just rest their shoulders. Why raise your shoulders to do a forearm workout? Cuz your short? Stand on a chair and do them...



Posted by: GoLdeN M 07

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Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
It just doesnt make sense to me. I mean, whats the function of it? Does it increase the lift or does it cause a burn?

It reminds me of doing those forearm workouts with rolling a rope onto a bar. Most people extend their arms out to do it rather than just rest their shoulders. Why raise your shoulders to do a forearm workout? Cuz your short? Stand on a chair and do them...
It springs you right up without you having to do any work at all. It can be used for any push exercise, even squats. No one knew about it and I found it out in the Naked Warrior book, found it to be pretty interesting, and shared it with you guys. I basically just wanted to know if it actually does help increase, eventhough its cheating.



Posted by: Witchblade

Quote:
Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
It just doesnt make sense to me. I mean, whats the function of it? Does it increase the lift or does it cause a burn?

It reminds me of doing those forearm workouts with rolling a rope onto a bar. Most people extend their arms out to do it rather than just rest their shoulders. Why raise your shoulders to do a forearm workout? Cuz your short? Stand on a chair and do them...
How is using more weight nonfunctional? Powerlifters need nothing else.



Posted by: AKIRA

I might be confused as to what the hell the procedure is, but I like to keep it simple.

"If it isnt broken, dont fix it."



Posted by: ALBOB

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Originally Posted by GoLdeN M 07 View Post
It springs you right up without you having to do any work at all. It can be used for any push exercise, even squats. No one knew about it and I found it out in the Naked Warrior book, found it to be pretty interesting, and shared it with you guys. I basically just wanted to know if it actually does help increase, eventhough its cheating.

If what you're saying is true then it SOUNDS like a technique that allows you to lift more weight without more effort. If you're a competing powerlifter that's great. But if you're interested in body building then it's counter productive. In body building you actually try to make the lift more difficult in order to work your muscles harder. Working your muscles harder is what makes them bigger. This is all just my version of common sense and logic, so take it for what it's worth.








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