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Posted by: ReproMan

Since most MMA news other than UFC events is probably not thread worthy, I figured we could keep a running thread of MMA news and events since we seem to have a nice core of members interested in the sport. That being said, here's a snippet I thought might be of interest.


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MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More

- MARK COLEMAN READY FOR RETURN TO UFC
Sunday, July 29, 2007 - by Ken Pishna - MMAWeekly.com

Mark Coleman, a fighter that first stepped foot in the UFC Octagon more than a decade ago, may not go down as one of the more dominating fighters in MMA history, but he surely will always be a significant piece of the puzzle. If not for his pioneering ground and pound style that led him to two UFC tournament championships, a win over Dan Severn to become the first UFC heavyweight beltholder, and capturing the first Pride Grand Prix title, the current MMA landscape may not be dominated by heavyweight enigma Fedor Emelianenko.

With an 4-4 record in his past eight bouts, including two losses to Fedor, Coleman hasn’t maintained the influence of the early days of his career, but he hasn’t hung up the gloves yet. In fact, he still has two fights left on his current Pride contract and with the buyout of that organization by Zuffa, it sounds as if Coleman sees a possible return to his old stomping grounds in the near future.

"I've always wanted to get back in that cage and I always knew I'd get back in there at least one more time. That's were I got started. I like the cage and I like the UFC rules better anyways,” said Coleman, obviously in reference to the brutal forearms and elbows he was so famous for. "I can be more effective in the cage than I was in the ring."
In a recent interview with MMAWeekly’s Scott Petersen, Coleman expounded upon a possible return to the Octagon and his desire to do so.

Saying, “I’m still improving” and “on any given day, victory is within your grasp,” Coleman believes that a fight with current UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture would be a good match-up for him.

It could be argued that Couture has been more relevant to today’s mixed martial arts’ scene, but looking at the fight on paper they are roughly the same age, currently have identical 15-8 professional records, started their MMA careers in the UFC within a year of each other, and come from strong wrestling backgrounds. With the strong name recognition of each, it might be a fight that a segment of fans would want to see, although Coleman would likely have to take another fight in the UFC first. And that is all banking on the fact that Zuffa is willing bring him back to the Octagon.

Interestingly, Coleman is also the subject of a new movie that is readying for production. Entitled “The Smashing Machine,” the same as the movie about his friend Mark Kerr, it sounds as if Jean-Claude Van Damme could be portraying the former UFC and Pride champion… an “interesting” choice that Coleman even seems to find odd.





Posted by: BoneCrusher

With Dana it's all about the benjamins. So what do ya figure a man of his abilities is worth in a match ?



Posted by: ReproMan

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With Dana it's all about the benjamins. So what do ya figure a man of his abilities is worth in a match ?
I would imagine he'll probably be in the $25,000 - $50,000 range. He's still a name in the sport, he's fought basically the best PRIDE had to offer in his last few fights and he's a former UFC champ. I'm actually not as disgusted with this as I thought I would be plus I think there are a handful of guys he can still beat. I see him getting thrown in there against the likes of Timmy or unfortunately another fight with Nog.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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I would imagine he'll probably be in the $25,000 - $50,000 range. He's still a name in the sport, he's fought basically the best PRIDE had to offer in his last few fights and he's a former UFC champ. I'm actually not as disgusted with this as I thought I would be plus I think there are a handful of guys he can still beat. I see him getting thrown in there against the likes of Timmy or unfortunately another fight with Nog.
I think he has the brute strength to throw down with Dorkboy, but I think he'll gas out like he always has and it'll turn into another hightlight reel of coleman getting KTFO. I am just barely interested in seeing him in the UFC. Kinda like slowing down to see the homeless guy with the funny work for food sign? ... but not much more than that. I wanna see the funny parts but the bum parts are just not interesting. Youtube. Coleman will be a good youtube clip ...

ReproBro you are soo right about "unfortunately" re another Nog non-fight. Please PLEASE not again ... ... MMA gods spare us that snooze fest.



Posted by: ReproMan

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I think he has the brute strength to throw down with Dorkboy, but I think he'll gas out like he always has and it'll turn into another hightlight reel of coleman getting KTFO.


Can't wait.



Posted by: AKIRA

"Coleman believes that a fight with current UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture would be a good match-up for him."

I happen to agree.

I always liked Coleman, but he hasnt been doing good lately, right? I mean losses to Fedor isnt exactly terrible by any means, but how much more steam does this engine have?



Posted by: A Black Guy

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how much more steam does this engine have?
Out of Japan and off the juice? I don't give him good odds at all.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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"Coleman believes that a fight with current UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture would be a good match-up for him."

I happen to agree.

I always liked Coleman, but he hasnt been doing good lately, right? I mean losses to Fedor isnt exactly terrible by any means, but how much more steam does this engine have?
Nah man I'm going to have to disagree with you here pahdna. I think Randy would put him down with ease.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Out of Japan and off the juice? I don't give him good odds at all.
Good point. I never considered that.

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Nah man I'm going to have to disagree with you here pahdna. I think Randy would put him down with ease.
Yeah, Randy would steamroll him IMO. It might go a few rounds, but like you eluded to earlier BC, Coleman gases and Randy wins via Anaconda Choke.



Posted by: AKIRA

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Out of Japan and off the juice? I don't give him good odds at all.
Ohh I forgot about that. Damn USA.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

One of the things that impressed me about Randy on that last fight was he still had plenty of gas in the tank at the end of the fight. Anyone who takes him on rt now needs to come prepared for high energy.



Posted by: ReproMan

An interesting (but long) read on the Title IX gender equality law amongst high school and college athletics and the potential ill effects it may have on MMA.

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A Different Kind of Fight: Title IX and MMA

by Jake Rossen (jrossen@sherdog.com)

The pugilistic pride of Oklahoma State University, UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture (Pictures) originally began his college studies at Washington State in 1981.

Had he stuck to his intention of completing his education there, the mixed martial arts Hall of Fame might be short one member.

"They dropped the wrestling program at Washington State," remembered Couture. "Fortunately, I had already left and gone into the service and stopped my matriculation clock. It would've made a difference in my wrestling career.

"They cut it for two reasons. One, the coach was a knucklehead. Two, Title IX was their excuse and a way to get rid of wrestling."

Title IX -- a law created in 1972 to promote gender equality among high school and college pursuits, including athletics -- has in its 35-year history become a point of contention for critics who say that the policy has the ironic effect of discriminating against men and for advocates who believe that opportunity should be equal to enrollment.

The sport of wrestling has been one of the most notable programs to be wounded by the law's edicts, which state that there must be as many slots for female athletes as there are female enrollees. Since 1972, 448 colleges and universities have excised wrestling from their curriculum. Of the 146 Division I wrestling teams in 1981, only 87 remained in 2001.

And while the list of casualties has stabilized in recent years, grapplers continue to hemorrhage high-profile camps from Division I schools like James Madison, Eastern Illinois and Oregon*, which recently announced plans to cut wrestling in favor of baseball and women's cheerleading.

While the wrestling community has long maligned the trend, mixed martial arts fans have equal reason to be concerned. With fewer wrestlers at the collegiate level, the increasingly lucrative world of the combat sports might see fewer and fewer Greco-Roman and freestyle specialists, numbers that once helped elevate the expectations for athleticism in the sport.

"I'd say probably 30 percent or more of the guys I work with have a wrestling background," said Couture. "It's hard to imagine one without the other. I definitely saw MMA as an outlet for all the skills and tools and training that I'd developed through 30 years of wrestling."

The Title IX Debate

In order to receive federal funding, universities must comply with Title IX's gender equality mandates in one of three ways: typically, athletic slots must match the number of male and female students. If a school has a 60 percent female population, then 60 percent of its sport opportunities should be available to women. Colleges can also comply by displaying that its female students are satisfied with the current ratio, or by continuing efforts to maintain proportionality.

Because the latter two guidelines are vague in nature and can be easily challenged by Title IX supporters, schools usually opt for a head count of male and female athletes. In order to balance what is likely a disproportionate level of male interest, athletic directors have responded by eliminating less popular programs like men's wrestling, gymnastics, or tennis.

To add to the confusion, while 57 percent of the country's students are female, some are re-entries (adults who have returned to academics and display little propensity for athletics). Of the nearly 10,000 new female enrollments in fall 2005, roughly 42 percent are aged 25 years and over.

Donna Lopiano, Ph.D., the Chief Executive Officer for the Women's Sports Foundation, countered concerns over the erased programs by stating that the overall number of male athletes has grown in recent years.

"While wrestling and men's gymnastics have declined, new opportunities for men in lacrosse, soccer, and football have totally outpaced those for women," she argued. "Title IX does not tell schools how to comply."

But it does tell schools to make college athletics largely a case of counting heads, countered Gary Abbott, Director of Communications at USA Wrestling.

"They're basing whether discrimination happens based on a numerical quota that doesn't reflect on interest, but on actual enrollment," he said. "It allows for the elimination of opportunities for men, rather than the creation of new opportunities for women."

Billy Baldwin, an actor and former wrestler at Binghamton University who fought to save that school's wrestling squad, believes high-profile erasures like Oregon act as inadvertent sanctioning for other NCAA programs to follow suit.

Said Baldwin: "The sport of wrestling is an endangered species."

‘America's Martial Art'

Like his father, Casey Olson (Pictures) grew up a wrestler.

A North Regional Champion at Fresno State, Olson decided to pursue mixed martial arts. With four wins in five fights he credits collegiate grappling for the necessary work ethic and discipline needed to become a combat artist.

"It's a huge background to have as a skill," Olson said. "I've always told people it's easier to teach a wrestler how to fight than it is to teach a fighter how to wrestle. It's about years of learning how to use your body, your weight distribution. MMA is the next step up."

The sport's short history bears Olson's beliefs out. In addition to the five-time decorated Couture, wrestling has produced Dan Henderson (Pictures), Matt Lindland (Pictures), Mark Coleman (Pictures), and a laundry list of other mat artists who parlayed their superior athleticism and ground skill into title belts and profitable careers.

"There's a natural tie there," agreed Abbott. "Thirty percent of the International Fight League's athletes have a wrestling background. Wrestling is America's martial art. It's the one combat sport that's in our schools, junior high through college. If we're strong on the youth and college levels, it'll mean more successful wrestlers in MMA. It goes hand in hand."

While coaching at Fresno and prepping a fight career, Olson witnessed the effects of Title IX first hand. One summer, he received word that the school would be eliminating wrestling entirely. Worse, colleges had already done their recruiting for the following season.

Athletes had two options: they could either stay on to continue their scholarship while losing their reason for being there or find the money to continue wrestling at another school.

"We had some seniors who could've been very good, even All-Americans, but all of a sudden they had to decide did they just want to go to school, or did they want to try and transfer somewhere and finish up their wrestling?" Olson remembered. "Doing that for one year is a very hard thing, especially at the end of the year, when most colleges don't have money for a late transfer. And they have to make sure all their credits are transferable. It was just a really bad scenario."

Though Abbott believes elite-level wrestlers will continue to find outlets for their talents, it's the high school-level competitors who have yet to come into their own that may suffer the most.

"Where you see lost opportunities are the kids who don't have the financial means to be able to manage the situation if they're not given support," Abbott said.

"There are a lot of ‘Rocky' stories out there in wrestling, guys who were good solid high school wrestlers but were really able to excel at the college and international levels," the wrestling advocate continued. "By having fewer opportunities, you're not allowing that possibility for a number of people."

The Business of Wrestling

Nowhere is college spending on more elaborate, bombastic display than in their football programs. Coaches routinely command salaries in excess of seven figures; one school constructed a $300,000 lighting scheme for a practice field and then never used it.

Lopiano argues that it's this kind of gross over expenditure, not Title IX, that's killing fringe sports.

"How can you justify any one sport eating up 85 full scholarships and spending $2 million on a coach and sacrificing wrestling? Women are getting the raw end of that deal, too," she said.

While Abbott and others counter by saying football helps subsidize both men's and women's sports, the numbers don't bear that out. Because of such costly investments in cultivating winning teams, most NCAA football and basketball squads operate at a deficit: 60 percent of teams average losses nearing $4 million per year.

In contrast, wrestlers are able to forgo expensive travel schedules and equipment in favor of a mat. Many Division I teams could operate on an annual budget in the low six figures. Yale, which took away its varsity status in wrestling in 1991, had an expense cap of $4,000; their football program, $400,000. As an added insult, wrestlers were turned away from the varsity weight room.

Despite the cost of what Lopiano has dubbed the football "arms race," schools are still hesitant to accept contributions from fervent supporters of wrestling that raise funds to help programs stay viable. Princeton refused a $2.3 million grant to keep its 90-year-old wrestling legacy afloat, a sign that schools aren't concerned with money so much as they are the head count.

Lopiano believes that there's simply a lack of interest in wrestling -- "It's gone out of popularity" -- while Abbott bemoans the lack of support at the collegiate level for a surging high school base.

"You have entire states that have strong high school wrestling, like Florida, that have no wrestling programs," Abbott said. "Washington State has no Division I wrestling. It's not reflective of what's going on the sports community. It's a travesty."

The MMA Effect

Should Title IX's ramifications continue unhindered, MMA could conceivably see a shift in how bouts are contested.

"The Olympic and collegiate world-class wrestlers that stepped in to MMA early on raised the level of expectation of athleticism," said Couture. "Guys like Dan Severn (Pictures), Mark Coleman (Pictures), Don Frye (Pictures) and myself all came in around the same time, within a year or two of each other. It definitely influenced the sport.

"I think guys who have participated in wrestling have skills and a mindset that translate very well to fighting and MMA. It depends on the individual what they do with it."

Watching early events from embryonic promotions like the IVC reveals the extent of the wrestler's conditioning influence in the fight game. Fighters often wave off bouts not because they're hurt, but because their lungs are burning too hard to continue. Early UFC events were a showcase for paunchy weekend warriors in t-shirts, a gas tank prepared to take them no more than a few minutes.

"They didn't have the battle conditioning or the cardio conditioning," said Abbott.

For adolescents who someday dream of being a Las Vegas fight attraction, the only school-sanctioned outlet for developing those skills is in a high school gymnasium. But without support from the collegiate level, argued Abbott, the crucial level of ability needed for MMA won't be properly cultivated.

"I would contend that a lot of the athletes who want to become the Coutures or Hendersons realize they need to pursue the world or Olympic level," he said. "They need to be NCAA All-Americans. If wrestling is a core skill in MMA, the higher level of wrestling success you have should translate into a higher level of MMA success. That's going to be part of their career progression."

Olson, who has been featured in Strikeforce and the WEC, agrees.

"It's a sad thing to see," he sighed. "Josh Koscheck (Pictures) is a national champion. These guys won't have that kind of experience to get into MMA."

A combat sport without a substantial wrestling base, Olson continued, is going to be less dynamic. "It'd be like K-1. All stand-up, and then you'd have submissions," he speculated. "That's exactly how it would be. I think it's a lot more exciting this way because now guys who are wrestlers are becoming so well rounded and can mix other skills with wrestling.

"It makes for more of a show. You never know what's going to happen, if they're going to stand-up or get a double-leg and slam their opponent."

Solutions

Title IX has withstood several challenges in court, most notably from the National Wrestling Coaches Association, a coalition of mentors who decided to commemorate the law's 30th anniversary in 2002 by suing the Department of Education for men's discrimination.

Federal court rejected the suit, claiming that educational entities are still at liberty to cut or cap athletic endeavors for reasons unrelated to Title IX.

Nonetheless, Abbott says the recently formed College Sports Council is continuing an advocacy and educational response at the political level: "There are people out there who are educated and have all the best interests of the student athletes in mind that are trying to go out there and do battle in the political field and in the public realm on the issue."

Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, an ex-wrestling coach, has gone to bat for threatened programs by attempting to refine Title IX, though with only mixed results. But it's the communities, not the bureaucrats, who make the biggest difference, suggested Abbott.

"One of the main things wrestling can do on a college level is continue to have strong programs with good fan attendance, good alumni support, and to have coaches and athletes that represent the school and sport with dignity," he said. "You have to entrench every single program on campus so it's indispensable to that community."

Recently, USA Wrestling and the team-based IFL formed a partnership that will allow each organization to boost the profile of the other in the eyes of their two slightly disparate audiences. "They'll be doing some promotion of USA Wrestling through their media outlets and at some of their events," Abbott said. "And we'll be exposing people in wrestling to the opportunities in the IFL, trying to get people interested in the League."

Lopiano, who insists wrestling is a casualty partially because of the expensive football programs, believes that regeneration can start by examining the exorbitant coaching salaries found near blocking sleds and basketball hoops.

"The wrestling coaches are afraid to take on football," she charged. "Wrestling coaches should be crying for an antitrust exemption that would allow the NCAA to cap the football and basketball coaches salaries, which have become obscene. We're working on the exemption because we don't see any way to comply with Title IX if they're going to throw all the money into football."

While some argue money isn't the issue, and the quota is, more available funds would seemingly create as many women's opportunities as men's.

"If they do that, they're going to keep all the wrestling teams and they can comply with Title IX, too. But the college presidents won't do it," said Lopiano, because colleges who want to allocate funds to marquee sports like football can use Title IX as a scapegoat.

Baldwin, who drummed up support for Binghamton University's program, believes that even rival schools have cause to fight possible cuts in their conference. "If I were a wrestler on Oregon, I would literally go to every other university in the conference that we competed against," he said. "It's easy to rally these guys because they know the entire existence of the sport is being threatened.

"A couple of my friends wrestled at other universities, and some of the guys at Penn State supported Binghamton. To this day they keep writing checks to support the coach there. And I'm not talking 50 bucks. I'm talking $500, a $1,000."

Colleges also have the option of enlisting an intermediary like Valerie Bonnette, a former employee at the Office of Civil Rights who has an extensive history in Title IX education. She now operates Good Sports, Inc., a consulting form specializing in helping schools achieve gender equality without sacrificing tenured programs.

According to Bonnette -- who has recently authored a plain-English manual on Title IX compliance -- wrestling programs have been sacrificed due to a simple case of ignorance on the part of educational institutions who find complying with the other "prongs" of Title IX too involved or confusing.

"There are many programs in the country where women are under-represented and yet they're complying with Title IX," she said. "So the idea that schools have to drop men's teams is just wrong. They're making a choice. And in my opinion, many times it's an uninformed choice about what their compliance options are."

Schools, said Bonnette, typically choose proportionality only because they're fearful that they can't sufficiently prove compliance with the other options if challenged in a court of law. "Test one is very easy to understand. The idea that they can select numbers and protect themselves from a lawsuit is very enticing. There isn't a lot of clear explanation out there on how (the other two) work.

"But we have clients that are meeting test three and we could show that in court if we had to. Some of our clients have a student body that is 50 percent women, with 38 percent of them being sports participants. But they're complying, because they're offering everything for which there's interest, ability, and competition."

Looking Ahead

While wrestling continues to thrive at the high school level, offering combat sports experience to adolescents, women's advocacy groups are eyeing the disproportionate number of male athletes with intent to change it.

"There are many special-interest groups that are trying to enforce Title IX with the proportionality quota at the high school level," said Abbott. "Right now, there are about a million more high school boys competing than girls. If they put that into effect, you'd have to cut a million opportunities for boys in sports that compete."

Among that number could conceivably be the next Henderson or Sean Sherk (Pictures).

For Couture, normally so genial, the Title IX debate is cause for outrage. As a coach at Portland State, his program was on the chopping block twice due to Title IX concerns. Thanks to public support and outside funding, it was exempt from the guillotine.

"There's a huge contingent of high school wrestlers that now have to go out of state and seek other opportunities to compete in their sport," he said. "Olympic sports like wrestling take in the shorts to comply with gender equity quotas based on Title IX and that's not what it was intended to do. Rather than go out and raise money and create opportunities for women, they cut programs and take those funds and put them in women's programs to maintain the quota that Title IX lays down. It's not fair to the men.

"In my opinion, it's kind of a chickens--t way out."




Posted by: ReproMan

This would be too awesome.

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UFC 78: Andrei Arlovski vs. Brandon Vera?

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Former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski could likely face Brandon Vera during a pay-per-view (PPV) event to be held in November, according to two separate UFCmania.com sources.


Grumblings about the showdown surfaced during a meet-and-greet with Arlovski over the weekend in Ontario, Calif. We were unable to confirm or deny this rumor with the manager for “The Pitbull,” Keith Gelman, at the time of this writing.

However, if this bout is indeed booked it would feature two of the most popular fighters currently on the UFC roster. It would also help clear up a muddied picture within the suddenly crowded division.


Just yesterday, we passed along a report that mentioned “The Truth” would soon resolve his management issues, which have kept him on the sidelines since November 2006. Prior to the hiatus, he was rising fast in the division and was supposedly offered a contract to fight then-champion Tim Sylvia at UFC 68 back in March.


Even though he only has one fight remaining on his current UFC deal, Vera said he wants to fight twice in 2007. But, if he appears in November, it looks like he’s one and done for this year — win or lose.


Something tells me that most fans at this point couldn’t care less, especially if he’s locked inside the cage with the Belarusian.


Arlovski is a marquee attraction that has been noticeably absent — much to the chagrin of several UFCmania.com readers — since his last appearance at UFC 70: “Nations Collide” in April. He won that fight via unanimous decision over Fabricio Werdum and, prior to the performance, was thought to be next in line to challenge for the title.


It never happened and fans were left bewildered when the UFC booked four fights in the span of four weeks (August 25-September 22) and Arlovski was not among those to be featured.


Without question, a match up between Vera and Arlovski would be fantastic and a solid addition to a card that features (maybe, depending on the steroid charge) UFC Lightweight Champion Sean Sherk vs. BJ Penn.


However, both fighters as far as I can tell only have one fight each remaining on their UFC contracts. In addition, Vera has not yet been before the California State Athletic Commission to formally sever ties with his manager, Mark Dion.


Put simply, there are a lot of balls in the air being juggled right now. Not to mention, we have yet to receive confirmation on way or another from Arlovski’s manager.


But it’s definitely a showdown worth debating, whether it happens or not.
UFC 78 is expected to take place at the Prudential Arena in Newark, New Jersey, on November 17.




Posted by: AKIRA

Not bad. Where has Vera been?



Posted by: A Black Guy

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Not bad. Where has Vera been?
Bitching about money.



Posted by: AKIRA

Hah, well has he been getting paid while hes bitching?



Posted by: BoneCrusher

GSP wins another one on shear striking power ...



Posted by: AKIRA

Jesus. Repro will love that. Were they fighting on a pool table?



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Jesus. Repro will love that. Were they fighting on a pool table?
Looks like it ... with what looked like the kind of fencing you'd use on a dog cage.



Posted by: A Black Guy

Speaking of MMA news, Shady Mar told me that she's fucking Cole Miller now.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Dehhhh who's Shady Mar?



Posted by: A Black Guy

A local 18 year old harlot.

She dated our friend Spencer, possibly fucked "The Rat." (not sure what all went on there.)

All in all, she's a pretty fun girl, no ego or anything, ok head on her shoulders, but she's 18...so she's just out to party, no cares, no responsibilities.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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A local 18 year old harlot.

She dated our friend Spencer, possibly fucked "The Rat." (not sure what all went on there.)

All in all, she's a pretty fun girl, no ego or anything, ok head on her shoulders, but she's 18...so she's just out to party, no cares, no responsibilities.
Myyeaaahhh ... a fuck buddy for those of the proper age group. She's a year younger than my son ...



Posted by: ReproMan

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GSP wins another one on shear striking power ...


I hate midgets.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Didn't mean to post anything that would touch on any sensitive issues You're not vertically challenged er anything are you?

Them midgets were banging their lil hearts out. They put on a better show then some of the shit we see on UFC even.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Didn't mean to post anything that would touch on any sensitive issues You're not vertically challenged er anything are you?

Them midgets were banging their lil hearts out. They put on a better show then some of the shit we see on UFC even.
Well, I'm not the tallest guy in the world @ 5'9" but I wouldn't say vertically challenged.

Much like clowns, I have a legitimate fear of midgets.



Posted by: ReproMan

I'm about sick of seeing Lutter's name come up anyway. Send him packing Dana.

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Report: Thales Leites to Replace Travis Lutter at UFC 74

Posted by UFC Junkie on August 1, 2007 at 7:45 pm ET

Thales Leites (11-1 MMA, 2-1 UFC), who’s riding a two-fight win streak in the UFC, will replace Travis Lutter and face Ryan Jensen at UFC 74 next month.


Earlier today we passed along news of Lutter’s decision to pull out of the Aug. 25 Las Vegas event, and Dave Meltzer of Wrestling Observer just recently reported Leites as the replacement.


Lutter announced he was suffering from a problematic neck — an injury first caused from a UFC 54 fight with Trevor Prangley in August 2005.


His scheduled opponent, Victory Fighting Championships veteran Jensen (11-1 MMA, 0-0 UFC), will now fight Leites, a four-year MMA veteran. Leites made his debut at The Ultimate Fighter 4 Finale and dropped a unanimous decision to Martin Kampmann. He rebounded with a unanimous decision victory over Pete Sell (UFC 69) and a recent first-round submission victory over Floyd Sword at The Ultimate Fighter 5 Finale.


The Brazilian middleweight was originally slated to face Nate Marquardt at “Ortiz vs. Shamrock 3: The Final Chapter” this past October but was forced to withdrawal because of visa issues.


UFC 74 takes place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas on Aug. 25. Randy Couture will face Gabriel Gonzaga in the night’s main event, and former welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre will face Josh Koscheck in a bout that promises the winner a title shot in early 2008.

For the latest UFC 74 fight card, check out the UFC Rumors section of UFCjunkie.com.




Posted by: BoneCrusher

This will be a better fight anyway. We've seen Leites come up with flying knees 1:30 in the 3rd round. He's much more of a high energy fighter that Lutter is.



Posted by: ReproMan

Should be a good one. I hope Riggs can finally get on track.

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UFC (WEC) Quick Quote: Riggs and Miller set for WEC October fight


“I’ve been trainin’ in my backyard with a banana tree that I kick and climb once in a while. I also have a tire that I lift and swing around. I watch a lot of Charles Bronson videos, and work out with Balki Bartokomous from “Perfect Strangers.’”
– Former UFC fighters Jason “Mayhem” Miller and Joe Riggs will fight in an October World Extreme Cagefighting (WEC) middleweight bout to determine a number one contender for the title. “Diesel” actually confirmed the showdown via FightNetwork.com, but Miller’s response was a little more colorful. More on the WEC 185-pound championship picture coming very soon.




Posted by: ReproMan

Pretty nice little card. I'm looking forward to seeing Filho in action.

Venue: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada

Main Card Bouts:

WEC Welterweight Championship
Carlos Condit vs. Brock Larson

WEC Middleweight Championship
Paulo Filho vs. Joe Doerksen

Stephen Ledbetter vs. Jeff Curran
Sherron Leggett vs. Jamie Varner

Preliminary Bouts:
Fernando Gonzalez vs. Hiromitsu Miura
Justin Robbins vs. Antonio Banuelos
Logan Clark vs. Eric Schambari
Blas Avena vs. Tiki Ghosn
Steve Cantwell vs. Justin McElfresh



Posted by: bigss75

It will be nice to see Joe Riggs get back after it, it will be even better to see him tapout against Mayhem.



Posted by: bigss75

WEC just started and Frank Mir is an announcer



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Coolness. Thanks bigss!!



Posted by: ReproMan

Lol, I guess you missed my post on the fight card?

Twas a decent event.



Posted by: bigss75

Filho looked good, I wonder how much money White paid all those UFC guys to show up to it



Posted by: ReproMan

Yup, Filho looked good, didn't get to see enough of Condit to get a good read. Larson came out uncharacteristically tentative and got caught in a pretty nice armbar though. Tiki got fuggin swarmed, lol!



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Lol, I guess you missed my post on the fight card?

Twas a decent event.
LOL ... yeah I just clicked in here and saw bigss post and was all ohhhhh no set the DVR!!!! I missed everything this weekend because I downloaded Lost in high def and watched the whole season start to finish. I just now at like 5:am my time finished watching the WEC event. One of the advantages of being OCD

Once again Steve Mazzagatti sucked balls and gave up the sub vic without the tap. When will they just shoot that blind retard? I swear he is getting bought off or he is betting on fights he ref's. Larson did not tap. He grabbed Condit's arm but did not tap. Condit didn't have thumb control and Larson kept twisting his elbow out of center lock.

Mazzagatti did the same shit last time I saw him ref. It was in an IFL fight between the Lions & the Scorpions. Whitehead literally talked Mazzagatti into stopping the fight by saying that White had tapped when White never tapped at all. I was like WTF?!?!?
Mazzagatti needs to be from MMA. I would not even let that fucking guy in the building if he bought a ticket.

The fights were all good clean stuff. It was the ref that sucked.



Posted by: A Black Guy

I'm pretty sure Larson tapped on Condit's knee right when they turned and Larson's back was against the cage you could see it.

It still looked like Mazzagatti was going to stop it before that happened though.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
LOL ... yeah I just clicked in here and saw bigss post and was all ohhhhh no set the DVR!!!! I missed everything this weekend because I downloaded Lost in high def and watched the whole season start to finish. I just now at like 5:am my time finished watching the WEC event. One of the advantages of being OCD

Once again Steve Mazzagatti sucked balls and gave up the sub vic without the tap. When will they just shoot that blind retard? I swear he is getting bought off or he is betting on fights he ref's. Larson did not tap. He grabbed Condit's arm but did not tap. Condit didn't have thumb control and Larson kept twisting his elbow out of center lock.

Mazzagatti did the same shit last time I saw him ref. It was in an IFL fight between the Lions & the Scorpions. Whitehead literally talked Mazzagatti into stopping the fight by saying that White had tapped when White never tapped at all. I was like WTF?!?!?
Mazzagatti needs to be from MMA. I would not even let that fucking guy in the building if he bought a ticket.

The fights were all good clean stuff. It was the ref that sucked.
He tapped. We rewound it on the TiVO. Like ABG said, it was a quick 2 tapper on Condit's knee.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

I've already deleted it so I can't revue it again ... but I'd still kick the guy in the face if I saw him in public. I hate Mazzagatti.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

I did rewind it when I saw the call and didn't see an actual tap out. Now I gotta d'load it off of MMA tracker & check it out.

Dude I'm still pissed off. ABG you do torrents?



Posted by: AKIRA

I saw it too. Two taps.

Even though he was pissed off, he didnt get up right away and have a look of surprise. He looked like he was thinking "god dammit, I made a mistake."

Plus, they didnt interview him afterwards.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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I saw it too. Two taps.

Even though he was pissed off, he didnt get up right away and have a look of surprise. He looked like he was thinking "god dammit, I made a mistake."

Plus, they didnt interview him afterwards.
Nah he was pissed as hell but they didn't show it because he was strategically kept out of camera view. He was arguing with Mazinoti but I'll download it after I finish downloading Battlestar Galactica season 3 and watch it a little more better.



Posted by: AKIRA

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Nah he was pissed as hell but they didn't show it because he was strategically kept out of camera view. He was arguing with Mazinoti but I'll download it after I finish downloading Battlestar Galactica season 3 and watch it a little more better.
Was there a show called that in the early 80s late 70s?

He looked frustrated, if anything.

It looked to me like it could had been a legitamate tap right before they went down.

If I were him, I wouldve gotten up right away and declared a premature stoppage. Pretty much just like Ken Shamrock did in Ken vs. Tito 2.



Posted by: A Black Guy

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If I were him, I wouldve gotten up right away and declared a premature stoppage. Pretty much just like Ken Shamrock did in Ken vs. Tito 2.
Larson knows he's not quite as good of an actor as Shamrock.





Posted by: bigss75

All those years in the WWE paid off for Shamrock.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Was there a show called that in the early 80s late 70s?

He looked frustrated, if anything.

It looked to me like it could had been a legitimate tap right before they went down.

If I were him, I wouldve gotten up right away and declared a premature stoppage. Pretty much just like Ken Shamrock did in Ken vs. Tito 2.
It was a series from back in the day but now it's been redone with great set work and killer females. I like good sci-fi stuff, but hate the hokey stuff. Firefly sucks, battlestar is great.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Ouch ...

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Posted by: fufu

Last night's WEC was refreshing. I don't know how others feel, but I love a first round win. Rather the the yawn fest alot of UFC fighters put on.

However, I am excited to have Roger Huerta and Glay Guida fighting(not each other, althought that would be awesome) next card. Along with the obvious others, but those light weights usually put the pace.



Posted by: bigss75

Anyone else hear of the major Staph outbreak MFS is having. Fisher had to back out of his UFN match, Drew McFedries is in the hospital, and Tim Sylvia is got it too



Posted by: A Black Guy

Hmph, sucks for Din having to fight Florian. Kind of a dangerous matchup and not a whole lot of glory if he gets the win.



Posted by: ReproMan

Florian to Replace Fisher

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Tuesday, August 07, 2007
by Sherdog.com Staff

Several sources have confirmed to Sherdog.com that the popular Kenny Florian (Pictures) will replace hard-hitting Spencer Fisher (Pictures) after a staph infection in the King's right knee forced the southpaw to bow out of his UFC Fight Night main event clash with Din Thomas (Pictures) on Sept. 19.

Fisher is one of several fighters in the Bettendorf, Iowa gym stricken with staph recently, said the lightweight's trainer, Pat Miletich (Pictures).

"They've been quarantined out of the gym," the trainer said. "It's not something you get from dirty mats or hospital equipment. It spreads from human to human contact."

Florian, 31, of Westwood, Mass., confirmed on Tuesday evening with Insidefighting.com that he has signed a bout agreement to face the American Top Team lightweight.




Posted by: ReproMan

MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More

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HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (over 205 pounds)

#1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko Cro Cop
4. Josh Barnett
5. Randy Couture
6. Gabriel Gonzaga
7. Tim Sylvia
8. Andrei Arlovski
9. Fabricio Werdum
10. Aleksander Emelianenko






LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (205-pound limit)

#1 Light Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
2. Quinton Jackson
3. Chuck Liddell
4. Dan Henderson
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou
7. Ricardo Arona
8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
9. Tito Ortiz
10. Kazuhiro Nakamura






MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION (185-pound limit)

#1 Middleweight Fighter in the World: Anderson Silva
2. Paulo Filho
3. Matt Lindland
4. Rich Franklin
5. Dan Henderson
6. Denis Kang
7. Nathan Marquardt
8. Robbie Lawler
9. Kazuo Misaki
10. Frank Trigg




WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION (170-pound limit)

#1 Welterweight Fighter in the World: Matt Serra
2. Georges St. Pierre
3. Matt Hughes
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Karo Parisyan
6. Diego Sanchez
7. Jon Fitch
8. Jake Shields
9. Carlos Condit
10. Akira Kikuchi





LIGHTWEIGHT DIVISION (160-pound limit)

#1 Lightweight Fighter in the World: Takanori Gomi
2. Hayato Sakurai
3. Gilbert Melendez
4. Tatsuya Kawajiri
5. Shinya Aoki
6. Vitor "Shaolin" Ribeiro
7. Joachim Hansen
8. Mitsuhiro Ishida
9. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto
10. Joe Stevenson







FEATHERWEIGHT DIVISION (145 pounds and under)

#1 Featherweight Fighter in the World: Akitoshi Tamura
2. "Lion" Takeshi Inoue
3. Antonio Carvalho
4. Hatsu Hioki
5. Urijah Faber
6. Masakazu Imanari
7. Tenkei Fujimiya
8. Jeff Curran
9. Yoshiro Maeda
10. Daiki "DJ" Hata




Posted by: ReproMan

Brawl Sports: Liddell to wait his turn for title shot

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Liddell to wait his turn for title shot

Posted by Steve Sievert at August 7, 2007



There will not be a quick path back to a title fight for former UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell.

Despite being, arguably, the UFC's most marketable fighter and an ex-champ who had four successful title defenses, "The Iceman" won't get a title shot even if he wins his next fight.

UFC President Dana White confirmed to the Chronicle's Brawl Sports that it will take more than a victory over Keith Jardine at UFC 76 to get Liddell back in the octagon with a title on the line.

"Chuck would have to win one more fight. I think Chuck has to win two fights in a row and then, yeah, he's back in the mix again. He got knocked out in a minute 30 in the first round (in his last fight). No matter how great he is, I'd like to see him win a couple of fights and then come back and fight for the title again."

As for the Liddell-Jardine matchup in Anaheim, Calif., Sept. 22, White believes the timing was right to put the two bangers together.

"Him and Jardine were on a collision course anyway ... similar styles, both coming off knockout losses, both their fights ended very abruptly, so we did it."

On paper, it's a less-than-compelling twosome and doesn't measure up to the main events of some of the other major UFC shows this year. But, that's what a lot of us were saying about Georges St-Pierre versus Matt Serra at UFC 69 and that turned out to be a jaw-dropper of a fight.

As for "The Iceman" having to take two turns before getting a title shot, if White sticks to that plan, who gets the winner of Quinton Jackson vs. Dan Henderson? With somewhat limited options in the division, you have to think the Shogun Rua-Forrest Griffin victor at 76 makes the most sense - at least I do. Source:




Posted by: bigss75

Kinda screwy ratings on there especially since Nog's last match, he's in the top ten but not second.

Is Sakurai/Sanchez still going down?




Posted by: ReproMan

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Kinda screwy ratings on there especially since Nog's last match, he's in the top ten but not second.

Is Sakurai/Sanchez still going down?
I thought Nog looked like crap but I guess he didn't lose so they kept him in the spot he was already in. Sanchez is actually fighting Jon Fitch now.



Posted by: A Black Guy

Rich Franklin > Dan Henderson & Denis Kang

What fucking 12 year old is making these rankings?



Posted by: ReproMan

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Rich Franklin > Dan Henderson & Denis Kang

What fucking 12 year old is making these rankings?
I can't see Franklin being above 8 honestly. They are ass backwards over there.



Posted by: fufu

On the last WEC card...I noticed a striking resembelence between Paulo Filho and Steve-o.





Now there is looks so-so. But after his last fight a few nights ago...he looked just like him.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Rich Franklin > Dan Henderson & Denis Kang

What fucking 12 year old is making these rankings?
Hendo owns two Pride belts ... 185 and 205. The belts are somewhat devalued lately ... yet still TAKEN from their previous owners while the belts still had value. How anyone can rank him anything less than #1 @ middleweight (2 @ worst) is using rithmatic instead of knowledge.

That being said ... Shamrock still kicked Hendo's ass in a grappling match.

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Posted by: BoneCrusher

Shamrock chokes out a DJ ...

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Posted by: ReproMan

MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More

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MMAWeekly has obtained the fighter salary information for WEC 29, which took place on August 5 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

The event was the WEC's fifth since being purchased by UFC parent company Zuffa, and it was also the WEC's second live event on cable television channel Versus.

The following figures are based on the fighter salary information that Zuffa and the WEC are required by law to submit to the state athletic commissions, including the winners' bonuses.

Although MMA fighters do not have collective bargaining or a union, the fighters' salaries are still public record, just as with every other major sport in the United States. Any undisclosed bonuses that Zuffa and the WEC also pay its fighters, but do not disclose to the athletic commissions (specifically, pay-per-view bonuses for the top pay-per-view main event fighters, which would not apply since this event was not on pay-per-view), are not included in the figures below.

In the listings below, "Title Match & Main Event Fighters" are defined as fighters who compete in the main event of a show and/or compete in a title fight on a show. "Main Card Fighters" are defined as fighters whose fights appear on the main card, but not in title fights or in the main event. "Preliminary Match Fighters" are defined as fighters whose matches take place before the live broadcast goes on the air, regardless of whether or not those matches end up airing on the TV broadcast.

Not all of the fighters on this card had identical amounts for their "win money" and "show money," so we have noted any differences next to each fighter's salary.


Title Match & Main Event Fighters

-Paulo Filho: $50,000 (1st fight in WEC after 8 fights in Pride; includes $15,000 win bonus; defeated Joe Doerksen)

-Joe Doerksen: $30,000 (1st fight in WEC after 4 fights in UFC; win bonus would have been $5,000; lost to Paulo Filho)

-Carlos Condit: $26,000 (3rd fight in WEC; includes $13,000 win bonus; defeated Brock Larson)

-Brock Larson: $12,000 (3rd fight in WEC after 2 fights in UFC; win bonus would have been $12,000; lost to Carlos Condit)


Main Card Fighters

-Jamie Varner: $14,000 (1st fight in WEC after 2 fights in UFC; includes $7,000 win bonus; defeated Sherron Leggett)

-Jeff Curran: $10,000 (2nd fight in WEC after 1 fight in Pride; includes $2,000 win bonus; defeated Stephen Ledbetter)

-Stephen Ledbetter: $5,000 (1st fight in WEC; win bonus would have been $5,000; lost to Jeff Curran)

-Sherron Leggett: $4,000 (2nd fight in WEC; win bonus would have been $4,000; lost to Jamie Varner)


Preliminary Match Fighters

-Antonio Banuelos: $8,000 (9th fight in WEC; includes $4,000 win bonus; defeated Justin Robbins)

-Eric Schambari: $8,000 (2nd fight in WEC; includes $4,000 win bonus; defeated Logan Clark)

-Hiromitsu Miura: $6,000 (2nd fight in WEC; includes $3,000 win bonus; defeated Fernando Gonzalez)

-Steven Cantwell: $6,000 (2nd fight in WEC; includes $3,000 win bonus; defeated Justin McElfresh)

-Logan Clark: $6,000 (2nd fight in WEC after 1 fight in UFC; win bonus would have been $6,000; lost to Eric Schambari)

-Tiki Ghosn: $5,000 (4th fight in WEC after 4 fights in UFC; win bonus would have been $5,000; lost to Blas Avena)

-Blas Avena: $4,500 (2nd fight in WEC; includes $2,000 win bonus; defeated Tiki Ghosn)

-Justin McElfresh: $3,000 (2nd fight in WEC; win bonus would have been $3,000; lost to Steven Cantwell)

-Fernando Gonzalez: $3,000 (4th fight in WEC; win bonus would have been $3,000; lost to Hiromitsu Miura)

-Justin Robbins: $2,000 (1st fight in WEC; win bonus would have been $2,000; lost to Antonio Banuelos)

Disclosed Fighter Payroll: $199,500




Posted by: ReproMan

Stevenson climbing the lightweight ladder - MMA/Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

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Stevenson climbing the lightweight ladder
By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports
August 8, 2007

Peace, Joe Stevenson says, is a beautiful thing.
And though the UFC lightweight contender says bluntly that he has "huge, big problems" in his life, he acts as if he doesn't have a care.

He and his wife, Maia, don't sweat even the most significant ordeals they may face. He's been through so many monumental issues in his life, he says the ordinary day-to-day problems that plague any young couple don't even register.

An old Christian prayer says, "God grant me the courage to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things that I can and the wisdom to know the difference."

At 25, Joe Stevenson says he definitely has the wisdom to know the difference.

"Man, I've been through some things in my life that nobody should have to go through," he says softly. "Tough things. Real problems. This stuff now, hey, it's a piece of cake. I'm at peace."


He's preparing to fight Kurt Pellegrino on Aug. 25 at UFC 74 in Las Vegas. UFC president Dana White concedes that Stevenson may get a shot at the UFC lightweight championship later this year pending the resolution of a steroids complaint filed against champion Sean Sherk by the California Athletic Commission.


Stevenson knows the signficance of the fight with Pellegrino, even though Pellegrino isn't widely known.


Stevenson has a reputation of occasionally slacking off in training camp, but a slip like that against Pellegrino could be fatal to his chances.


"He's a very talented guy and he can beat pretty much anyone on a given night, but his weakness is that he sometimes shows a desire not to train,"


White said. "His standup could be better, but the big thing with him is making sure he comes in ready to fight. If he's ready, there's not too much reason to worry about him. But he's shown that you have to wonder whether he's going to be in the kind of shape he needs to be in."


Stevenson is aware of that reputation and says he's working to eradicate it. Words, he's aware, won't change that perception of him.
It will only occur by what he does in his fights. And he's training with an all-star cast in Big Bear, Calif., with the intent of being at his peak on Aug. 25.


He declined to say who his training partners are, other than to say they're big-name fighters and that someone would be shocked to hear the lengthy roster of stars he's working alongside.
But he said the fighters have pushed each other to perform at a higher level.


"Even when we walk to our cars, we race, because there is that sense of competition and pushing yourself to be the best," Stevenson said.


He's 28-6 and was the welterweight winner of Season 2 of The Ultimate Fighter, the UFC's reality show, so he already has an impressive resume.
But his record is more impressive considering what he's overcome in his life. He had a rocky childhood in which he watched his father, who was bipolar, die an agonizing death due to bone marrow cancer.


His mother was briefly incarcerated and he bounced around from family member to family member.


He became a professional fighter the day after his 17th birthday and became a father at 18, when his income was about a $1,000 a month.
He was divorced from his first wife, but the divorce was anything but simple and he'd have to drive seven hours one way just to see his children.


With that as a background, little now, he says, can distract him from his goal of winning the title or break the bond between he and his wife, Maia.
"Sometimes I can dwell on what I've been through, and that's the bad part of it, but I prefer to look at my background as something that makes me a stronger person and, by extension, a stronger fighter," Stevenson said. "If I'm in a tricky situation, I can step back and look at it and realize I've been there before or I've gotten through something just like it.


"And on the other end, you've had such bad things happen to you in the past that when something little comes up on a given day, it's not even a worry. My wife and I have huge, big problems right now and we couldn't care less about them. That's because we've been there, done that and we know that somehow, it's going to turn out right."


His coach, the highly regarded Marc Laimon, has worked with Stevenson for about four years and thinks things will turn out fine for him against Pellegrino because of the work he's put in over the last several years.
Stevenson was young but had plenty of experience when Laimon first met him.


"It wasn't like he was a guy who was struggling and really needed to be turned around," Laimon said. "He was already a pretty solid, pretty complete fighter. I just added a few things, a few positional things, that kind of helped him to become more well-rounded."


Since a loss to Josh Neer last year, Stevenson has won three in a row, stopping Yves Edwards on cuts and submitting Dokonjonosuke Mishima and Melvin Guillard.


He needed just 27 seconds to stop Guillard, who before the bout had accused Stevenson of using HGH and who had predicted a first-round knockout.


Stevenson was calm in the face of Guillard's threats and went on and manhandled him. It didn't escape the notice of White, who may have to find someone to fight B.J. Penn for the vacant lightweight title if Sherk is stripped.


Sherk's appeal before the California commission will be in October. White said he hadn't made up his mind what to do because he said he believes Sherk's denials, but he said if Sherk is suspended by the commission, he would probably strip him of the belt.


That would open a spot for someone to fight Penn for the then-vacant belt in November.


Stevenson knows it's getting ahead of himself to think of that, but says he can't help himself.


"The motivating thing for me is, pushing myself to be better every day knowing that I'm getting near that (title shot) and that it's becoming more and more of a reality for me," Stevenson said. "Now is the time more than ever I can't afford a slip. I totally understand that. Sometimes, when you have a bad fight or whatever, you say to yourself, 'Well, there's another time.' But I can't afford right now to think that way. "I have to be on top of it. I have to be impressive in everything I do now, because I know my chance might depend upon it."




Posted by: BoneCrusher

This 8 year old kid can kick your ass.

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Posted by: bio-chem

thats rad for an 8 year old



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
This 8 year old kid can kick your ass.

YouTube Video
ROFL, he looks like a mini Shogun. That's awesome.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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ROFL, he looks like a mini Shogun. That's awesome.
Thanks on the mmaplayground link ReproBro ... I been diggin' on the MMA videos over there.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
Thanks on the mmaplayground link ReproBro ... I been diggin' on the MMA videos over there.
I guess I have more exploring to do, I didn't even know they were there.



Posted by: fufu

Anybody know what the deal is with Fedor? If he has another fight planned or what fed he is in/going to be in?



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Anybody know what the deal is with Fedor? If he has another fight planned or what fed he is in/going to be in?
The latest rumor is that he signed with K-1 but I don't think that's been confirmed yet. His people were up front about the fact that the UFC offered him the most money but they have a problem with him competing in the World Sambo Championships. Hopefully they can get that shit done so we can see him soon.



Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
The latest rumor is that he signed with K-1 but I don't think that's been confirmed yet. His people were up front about the fact that the UFC offered him the most money but they have a problem with him competing in the World Sambo Championships. Hopefully they can get that shit done so we can see him soon.
ahhh wtf.

thanks



Posted by: bigss75

I think his brother signed with K1 but doesnt mean Fedor won't sign with UFC. Kinda a waste if he goes to K1



Posted by: BoneCrusher

AL Bundy says .... after 15 years training in BJJ with the Gracies.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Which brings to mind that we should all share our links. You need to sign up to view some of these but so what. Free MMA ...

MMAplayground has videos (thanks again ReproBro)

ProElite has videos and does the live streaming bit for under cards of the ShoEX fights such as the last one with Shamrock and Baroni.

MMATracker is a torrent site that has most every fight that ever happened in the MMA world. It's a private tracker so ya gotta know someone with an invite, but worth the effort to get one for.

FCZ ... Fullcontactzone is another torrent site that has most every fight that ever happened in the MMA world plus they index other sports like boxing, nascar, soccer, WWE, and w/e. Seasier to get an invite too. I have a few left. If I know you as not an asshole pm me and I'll send you one.

BODOG has high def downloads of some of there stuff.

I know I've left out some good sites so cough 'em up fellas. Where do you get your MMA buzz on at?



Posted by: A Black Guy

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This 8 year old kid can kick your ass.
That's why you gotta fight them when they're younger.

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Posted by: BoneCrusher

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That's why you gotta fight them when they're younger.

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I use a tazer just like everyone else.



Posted by: bigss75

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Which brings to mind that we should all share our links. You need to sign up to view some of these but so what. Free MMA ...
Those are some pretty good sites, I dl most my MMA events from projectw.org or warez-bb.org



Posted by: ReproMan

UFC: Today Spike TV, Tomorrow the World - TVWeek - News

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UFC: Today Spike TV, Tomorrow the World Fast-Growing Sport Sets Sights on New Markets

By Chris Pursell
Ultimate Fighting Championship President Dana White, long dissatisfied with life on the fringe, has now set his sights on the world.


What is perhaps the fastest-growing sports franchise in the country -- mixed martial arts knocked both boxing and World Wrestling Entertainment from atop the pay-per-view perches in 2006 -- will undergo a significant test of its popularity next month when the league makes its first foray into broadcast syndication with the debut of the series "UFC Wired." It will also finalize a deal with HBO for a series of fights, and counts among its projects the return of Spike TV's hit "The Ultimate Fighter" and two upcoming PPV-style fight cards, one in London Sept. 8 and the other in Anaheim, Calif., Sept. 22.


"Our strategy right now is global," Mr. White said. "We're at a place in the U.S. where it's going to keep getting bigger and bigger as our fan base grows. I think that will especially be true once our syndicated series launches. But we are now in 150 countries with a powerful product that everyone understands. What we want to do now is take our events to these markets and create the first global pay-per-view with people from all over the world buying the fight."


With "UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion" taking place in London Sept. 8, the company is opening doors to do that. In addition, Mr. White said plans are in the works to take the UFC series "Live Event" on a world tour, with four stops in the U.K. and additional stops in continental Europe, Australia, Japan, Korea, Mexico and Canada.


"We have only started to tap the Hispanic market," he said. "That's the group that has kept boxing alive these past few years because they love watching fights. So we have big plans to get South America involved over the next few years."


The UFC, a private company owned by U.S. sports promotion firm Zuffa, broke the 1 million PPV-buy mark last December for the first time ever, according to analysts, on the strength of a match featuring Chuck Liddell vs. Tito Ortiz. One report said the company had a total gross PPV take of nearly $223 million in 2006, more than boxing or the WWE has ever earned. Some estimates place the value of the privately held company around $1 billion, although others think it is closer to $750 million.


Set to boost company revenue in 2008 will be the launch of UFC's first videogame since the beginning of the decade, which is expected to be released in the early part of the year.


With the success of the UFC, a slew of other MMA leagues have hit the circuit, including the International Fight League, which airs on MyNetwork TV in prime time (and boosted the network's ratings, particularly among men 18 to 49, a demographic that grew from a 0.2 to a 0.8 Nielsen Media Research rating in its first month), and BoDog fights.


However, the UFC has become known as the staple of the sport, particularly after acquiring rival Pride Fighting Championships earlier in the year. That acquisition set up the London PPV bout, which pits UFC heavyweight champion Quinton Jackson against Pride champion Dan Henderson in a title unification match.


The Sept. 22 PPV event in Anaheim will be headlined by a bout between Mr. Liddell and Keith Jardine.


"They had really good timing," said Deana Myers, senior analyst at research firm Kagan. "I think not only was the public tired of the WWE, but the UFC has good product that was able to capture audiences."


Brand Evolution

She noted that a lot of work would have to be done before the UFC would be able to pull off worldwide PPV events, including pinning down international platforms.


One deal Mr. White says won't take long to complete is the UFC's programming agreement with HBO, noting, "It will happen." He said the HBO series of fights would be used to complement programming on Spike (which has exclusivity on the UFC on basic cable) and the PPV events.
"What we're doing is going to get guys started on 'The Ultimate Fighter,' where they can then progress to a show like 'UFC Fight Night' before landing on HBO. HBO would then give them the opportunity for a title shot on PPV," he said.


"The Ultimate Fighter" marked a milestone for both the UFC and Spike, with airings of the series beating both baseball and National Basketball Association games on a regular basis. In fact, the three-hour finale of the fifth season in June won the night among men 18 to 34 and men 18 to 49 on broadcast and cable.


"The power of television has been simply incredible for this brand," said Brian J. Diamond, senior VP of sports and specials at Spike TV. "When we debuted 'The Ultimate Fighter' in 2005, we were able to bring in not only hard-core fans but casual sports fans as well as fans of reality. The whole sport kind of took off from there, and it's been a fantastic relationship for both parties."


Mr. Diamond noted that the channel is in talks to extend its agreement with the UFC, which expires in 2008, and said there have been internal discussions to expand Spike's UFC programming -- which can vary from five to seven events depending on the month -- in new ways.


The launch of syndicated series "UFC Wired" from Trifecta Entertainment this fall marks the league's first foray into broadcast television. The series is currently cleared in more than 85 percent of the country, with many major-market stations carrying it in early access or prime time, according to Trifecta President Hank Cohen.


"Mixed martial arts are becoming such an important mainstream sport, not only to fans but to television, it makes sense the next evolution of the brand is to be seen in broadcast," Mr. Cohen said. "Right now they are putting the little things in the show that they really didn't have to do, and that speaks to the quality of the organization."


"UFC Wired" will feature the best bouts from the history of the UFC as a measure to introduce the sport and its fighters to the mainstream public. The series will be hosted by former "Fear Factor" host Joe Rogan, who emcees UFC fare on pay-per-view.


"These are going to be fights that millions of people have never seen before," Mr. White said. "By learning about the sport as well as about our fighters, people are going to be interested in the next fight. I like to think that that's one way we can reintroduce ourselves to the public, who will surely learn to love this sport as much as I do."




Posted by: BoneCrusher

Fug me ... a billion? As in 1,000,000,000? Who'd a thunk it?



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Fug me ... a billion? As in 1,000,000,000? Who'd a thunk it?



Posted by: ReproMan





Posted by: BoneCrusher

Is there an echo in this thread?



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Posted by: fufu

Ah yes.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

... that commercial looked gay as hell.



Posted by: A Black Guy

They should have had Kerr in the backround trying to slit his wrists with one.



Posted by: ReproMan

UFC blog for UFC news, MMA news, UFC rumors, UFC gossip, fighter interviews and event previews and recaps - UFCjunkie.com

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UFC 74 Media Conference Call Notes

Posted by Sam Caplan on August 16, 2007 at 4:11 pm ET



The UFC conducted a conference call for the media today to help promote UFC 74 next Saturday in Las Vegas.


UFC president Dana White and UFC 74 fighters Randy Couture, Gabriel Gonzaga, Georges St. Pierre and Josh Koscheck all participated in the call.
Here’s a recap of some of the more newsworthy items that were discussed:
  • Georges St. Pierre came off very well during the initial portion of the call. He said all the right things by giving Matt Serra his just due (just like he did immediately after UFC 69) and saying that we wouldn’t be seeing the old GSP vs. Koscheck next Saturday, but a brand new one. He even revealed that he’s been seeing a sports psychologist and that one thing he’s learned is that the best fighter doesn’t win a fight; the fighter who fights the best fight wins. I’ve been very critical of GSP in recent weeks, but I have to give him a lot of credit for going to a sports psychologist. It shows he takes winning seriously and wants to fight to his full athletic potential. My only complaint is that toward the latter portion of the call, the excuses (mental preparation, physical issues and illnesses in his family) came out again. In defense of GSP, he was being asked followup questions, and he was probably just trying to provide some detail. But he was a true sportsman at the start of the call and sounds determined. While I’m sticking to my prediction that Koscheck will beat him (see: “Why Koscheck will beat St. Pierre”), I am preparing for a lot of I-told-you-so emails and messages.
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  • White stated on the record that Brandon Vera has a new deal with the UFC. During a followup question, he was asked about a possible first opponent, and he said it would “probably” be Tim Sylvia. Nothing is official though, and Sylvia has to deal with staph infection in addition to his recovery from back surgery. Stay tuned.
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  • White said that the UFC and Vera never had contract issues and that it was Vera and his old management that had the contract issues. He took a shot at EliteXC promoter Gary Shaw for making comments about Vera last year when there were reports that terms between UFC and Vera were icy.
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  • When asked about Andrei Arlovski’s status, Dana said “The Pitbull” would be fighting soon and that he didn’t know exactly when or against whom because there are so many matches that are being worked on right now. My thoughts are that if Vera is fighting Sylvia, then why not Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Arlovski?
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  • What would a UFC conference call be without some talk about the HBO deal? Someone jokingly referenced White’s comments in the past that a deal with HBO would have been done in time to show a summer event. White laughed it off and said something to the effect of, “Well, now it will be signed in time for a winter event.” He still believes it will get done and even so far as went to guarantee it will get done before the year is out. When White was asked about why it’s taking so long, he said that he’s probably the reason it’s taking so long. A question about what kind of events would be telecast on HBO was brought up. White backed off from previous stories that the UK broadcasts would be televised by HBO. While White said cards from Europe could possibly be televised on HBO, shows from the U.S. will be telecast as well. He said the HBO cards will pretty much be just like the PPVs.
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  • White said he screwed up by having UFC 72 televised live. He said that UFC fans are used to watching UFC events on Saturday nights and showing the card in the afternoon wasn’t the way to go. As such, don’t expect the cards from Europe to be televised live.
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  • In regard to Wanderlei Silva, White would not confirm that he has signed with the UFC. He did say that he wants to sign Silva but it’s not a done deal and that he doesn’t want to talk about deals that aren’t done yet.
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  • Fedor Emelianenko was brought up, but there wasn’t any new news. White once again said that if Fedor was signed, he would be able to compete for the UFC heavyweight title right away.
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  • White was asked if he had any big announcements for the call or for UFC 74 planned. He said there are no big announcements planned unless something crazy happens.
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  • The dead horse that is known as the steroid issue was brought up (and I’m not blaming anyone for asking about it), and White got very animated repeating a lot of the same comments that appeared in Steve Sievert’s recent Houston Chronicle blog. White really believes that government testing is pretty stringent and that if the government tested NFL players on game day the same way fighters are tested before a fight that there would be no more football. He said the existing penalties are harsh and that fighters who use steroids when they already know that there will be consequences are “morons.“
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  • Couture was asked about why he’s been able to stay successful when other legends like Royce Gracie and Ken Shamrock are no longer as efficient as they once were. Couture was uncomfortable with the comparisons but did say that one big difference is that he’s remained active and hasn’t subjected himself to prolonged periods in which he was away from fighting.
    .Koscheck was complementary towards St. Pierre but also confident. He didn’t really want to get too much into strategy, so we’ll have to wait and see what he has planned for UFC 74. He was asked if he believes he can put GSP on his back, and Koscheck basically said yes.It sounds like no decisions about the lightweight title will be made until after Sean Sherk has his hearing before the California State Athletic Commission in October.
  • UFC 74 takes place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas on Aug. 25. Couture will face Gonzaga in the night’s main event, and former welterweight champion St. Pierre will face Koscheck in a bout that promises the winner a title shot in early 2008.Stay tuned to UFCjunkie.com for the latest on next week’s event, including on-site coverage from Las Vegas in the days leading up to the event.




Posted by: fufu

As for having the UFC not played live in US and played later saturday night, how about having the damn event in USA. I wouldn't want to pay for an event that I won't see live. And seeing as USA holds the most cash for the UFC, appease the fans. Plus, from what I saw, European fans are worse than typical American fans(typical American fans suck!).



Posted by: AKIRA

Whats the big deal if its not live?



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
As for having the UFC not played live in US and played later saturday night, how about having the damn event in USA. I wouldn't want to pay for an event that I won't see live. And seeing as USA holds the most cash for the UFC, appease the fans. Plus, from what I saw, European fans are worse than typical American fans(typical American fans suck!).
It's free on Spike, or you can order it and watch it at 3PM, that's UFC 75 anyway. UFC 74 is live.



Posted by: fufu

d'oh! I thought that may be the case.



Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
Whats the big deal if its not live?
If I pay money for an event I want to see it as it happens.