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Posted by: ReproMan

Since most MMA news other than UFC events is probably not thread worthy, I figured we could keep a running thread of MMA news and events since we seem to have a nice core of members interested in the sport. That being said, here's a snippet I thought might be of interest.


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MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More

- MARK COLEMAN READY FOR RETURN TO UFC
Sunday, July 29, 2007 - by Ken Pishna - MMAWeekly.com

Mark Coleman, a fighter that first stepped foot in the UFC Octagon more than a decade ago, may not go down as one of the more dominating fighters in MMA history, but he surely will always be a significant piece of the puzzle. If not for his pioneering ground and pound style that led him to two UFC tournament championships, a win over Dan Severn to become the first UFC heavyweight beltholder, and capturing the first Pride Grand Prix title, the current MMA landscape may not be dominated by heavyweight enigma Fedor Emelianenko.

With an 4-4 record in his past eight bouts, including two losses to Fedor, Coleman hasn’t maintained the influence of the early days of his career, but he hasn’t hung up the gloves yet. In fact, he still has two fights left on his current Pride contract and with the buyout of that organization by Zuffa, it sounds as if Coleman sees a possible return to his old stomping grounds in the near future.

"I've always wanted to get back in that cage and I always knew I'd get back in there at least one more time. That's were I got started. I like the cage and I like the UFC rules better anyways,” said Coleman, obviously in reference to the brutal forearms and elbows he was so famous for. "I can be more effective in the cage than I was in the ring."
In a recent interview with MMAWeekly’s Scott Petersen, Coleman expounded upon a possible return to the Octagon and his desire to do so.

Saying, “I’m still improving” and “on any given day, victory is within your grasp,” Coleman believes that a fight with current UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture would be a good match-up for him.

It could be argued that Couture has been more relevant to today’s mixed martial arts’ scene, but looking at the fight on paper they are roughly the same age, currently have identical 15-8 professional records, started their MMA careers in the UFC within a year of each other, and come from strong wrestling backgrounds. With the strong name recognition of each, it might be a fight that a segment of fans would want to see, although Coleman would likely have to take another fight in the UFC first. And that is all banking on the fact that Zuffa is willing bring him back to the Octagon.

Interestingly, Coleman is also the subject of a new movie that is readying for production. Entitled “The Smashing Machine,” the same as the movie about his friend Mark Kerr, it sounds as if Jean-Claude Van Damme could be portraying the former UFC and Pride champion… an “interesting” choice that Coleman even seems to find odd.





Posted by: BoneCrusher

With Dana it's all about the benjamins. So what do ya figure a man of his abilities is worth in a match ?



Posted by: ReproMan

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With Dana it's all about the benjamins. So what do ya figure a man of his abilities is worth in a match ?
I would imagine he'll probably be in the $25,000 - $50,000 range. He's still a name in the sport, he's fought basically the best PRIDE had to offer in his last few fights and he's a former UFC champ. I'm actually not as disgusted with this as I thought I would be plus I think there are a handful of guys he can still beat. I see him getting thrown in there against the likes of Timmy or unfortunately another fight with Nog.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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I would imagine he'll probably be in the $25,000 - $50,000 range. He's still a name in the sport, he's fought basically the best PRIDE had to offer in his last few fights and he's a former UFC champ. I'm actually not as disgusted with this as I thought I would be plus I think there are a handful of guys he can still beat. I see him getting thrown in there against the likes of Timmy or unfortunately another fight with Nog.
I think he has the brute strength to throw down with Dorkboy, but I think he'll gas out like he always has and it'll turn into another hightlight reel of coleman getting KTFO. I am just barely interested in seeing him in the UFC. Kinda like slowing down to see the homeless guy with the funny work for food sign? ... but not much more than that. I wanna see the funny parts but the bum parts are just not interesting. Youtube. Coleman will be a good youtube clip ...

ReproBro you are soo right about "unfortunately" re another Nog non-fight. Please PLEASE not again ... ... MMA gods spare us that snooze fest.



Posted by: ReproMan

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I think he has the brute strength to throw down with Dorkboy, but I think he'll gas out like he always has and it'll turn into another hightlight reel of coleman getting KTFO.


Can't wait.



Posted by: AKIRA

"Coleman believes that a fight with current UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture would be a good match-up for him."

I happen to agree.

I always liked Coleman, but he hasnt been doing good lately, right? I mean losses to Fedor isnt exactly terrible by any means, but how much more steam does this engine have?



Posted by: A Black Guy

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how much more steam does this engine have?
Out of Japan and off the juice? I don't give him good odds at all.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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"Coleman believes that a fight with current UFC Heavyweight Champion Randy Couture would be a good match-up for him."

I happen to agree.

I always liked Coleman, but he hasnt been doing good lately, right? I mean losses to Fedor isnt exactly terrible by any means, but how much more steam does this engine have?
Nah man I'm going to have to disagree with you here pahdna. I think Randy would put him down with ease.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Out of Japan and off the juice? I don't give him good odds at all.
Good point. I never considered that.

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Nah man I'm going to have to disagree with you here pahdna. I think Randy would put him down with ease.
Yeah, Randy would steamroll him IMO. It might go a few rounds, but like you eluded to earlier BC, Coleman gases and Randy wins via Anaconda Choke.



Posted by: AKIRA

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Out of Japan and off the juice? I don't give him good odds at all.
Ohh I forgot about that. Damn USA.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

One of the things that impressed me about Randy on that last fight was he still had plenty of gas in the tank at the end of the fight. Anyone who takes him on rt now needs to come prepared for high energy.



Posted by: ReproMan

An interesting (but long) read on the Title IX gender equality law amongst high school and college athletics and the potential ill effects it may have on MMA.

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A Different Kind of Fight: Title IX and MMA

by Jake Rossen (jrossen@sherdog.com)

The pugilistic pride of Oklahoma State University, UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture (Pictures) originally began his college studies at Washington State in 1981.

Had he stuck to his intention of completing his education there, the mixed martial arts Hall of Fame might be short one member.

"They dropped the wrestling program at Washington State," remembered Couture. "Fortunately, I had already left and gone into the service and stopped my matriculation clock. It would've made a difference in my wrestling career.

"They cut it for two reasons. One, the coach was a knucklehead. Two, Title IX was their excuse and a way to get rid of wrestling."

Title IX -- a law created in 1972 to promote gender equality among high school and college pursuits, including athletics -- has in its 35-year history become a point of contention for critics who say that the policy has the ironic effect of discriminating against men and for advocates who believe that opportunity should be equal to enrollment.

The sport of wrestling has been one of the most notable programs to be wounded by the law's edicts, which state that there must be as many slots for female athletes as there are female enrollees. Since 1972, 448 colleges and universities have excised wrestling from their curriculum. Of the 146 Division I wrestling teams in 1981, only 87 remained in 2001.

And while the list of casualties has stabilized in recent years, grapplers continue to hemorrhage high-profile camps from Division I schools like James Madison, Eastern Illinois and Oregon*, which recently announced plans to cut wrestling in favor of baseball and women's cheerleading.

While the wrestling community has long maligned the trend, mixed martial arts fans have equal reason to be concerned. With fewer wrestlers at the collegiate level, the increasingly lucrative world of the combat sports might see fewer and fewer Greco-Roman and freestyle specialists, numbers that once helped elevate the expectations for athleticism in the sport.

"I'd say probably 30 percent or more of the guys I work with have a wrestling background," said Couture. "It's hard to imagine one without the other. I definitely saw MMA as an outlet for all the skills and tools and training that I'd developed through 30 years of wrestling."

The Title IX Debate

In order to receive federal funding, universities must comply with Title IX's gender equality mandates in one of three ways: typically, athletic slots must match the number of male and female students. If a school has a 60 percent female population, then 60 percent of its sport opportunities should be available to women. Colleges can also comply by displaying that its female students are satisfied with the current ratio, or by continuing efforts to maintain proportionality.

Because the latter two guidelines are vague in nature and can be easily challenged by Title IX supporters, schools usually opt for a head count of male and female athletes. In order to balance what is likely a disproportionate level of male interest, athletic directors have responded by eliminating less popular programs like men's wrestling, gymnastics, or tennis.

To add to the confusion, while 57 percent of the country's students are female, some are re-entries (adults who have returned to academics and display little propensity for athletics). Of the nearly 10,000 new female enrollments in fall 2005, roughly 42 percent are aged 25 years and over.

Donna Lopiano, Ph.D., the Chief Executive Officer for the Women's Sports Foundation, countered concerns over the erased programs by stating that the overall number of male athletes has grown in recent years.

"While wrestling and men's gymnastics have declined, new opportunities for men in lacrosse, soccer, and football have totally outpaced those for women," she argued. "Title IX does not tell schools how to comply."

But it does tell schools to make college athletics largely a case of counting heads, countered Gary Abbott, Director of Communications at USA Wrestling.

"They're basing whether discrimination happens based on a numerical quota that doesn't reflect on interest, but on actual enrollment," he said. "It allows for the elimination of opportunities for men, rather than the creation of new opportunities for women."

Billy Baldwin, an actor and former wrestler at Binghamton University who fought to save that school's wrestling squad, believes high-profile erasures like Oregon act as inadvertent sanctioning for other NCAA programs to follow suit.

Said Baldwin: "The sport of wrestling is an endangered species."

‘America's Martial Art'

Like his father, Casey Olson (Pictures) grew up a wrestler.

A North Regional Champion at Fresno State, Olson decided to pursue mixed martial arts. With four wins in five fights he credits collegiate grappling for the necessary work ethic and discipline needed to become a combat artist.

"It's a huge background to have as a skill," Olson said. "I've always told people it's easier to teach a wrestler how to fight than it is to teach a fighter how to wrestle. It's about years of learning how to use your body, your weight distribution. MMA is the next step up."

The sport's short history bears Olson's beliefs out. In addition to the five-time decorated Couture, wrestling has produced Dan Henderson (Pictures), Matt Lindland (Pictures), Mark Coleman (Pictures), and a laundry list of other mat artists who parlayed their superior athleticism and ground skill into title belts and profitable careers.

"There's a natural tie there," agreed Abbott. "Thirty percent of the International Fight League's athletes have a wrestling background. Wrestling is America's martial art. It's the one combat sport that's in our schools, junior high through college. If we're strong on the youth and college levels, it'll mean more successful wrestlers in MMA. It goes hand in hand."

While coaching at Fresno and prepping a fight career, Olson witnessed the effects of Title IX first hand. One summer, he received word that the school would be eliminating wrestling entirely. Worse, colleges had already done their recruiting for the following season.

Athletes had two options: they could either stay on to continue their scholarship while losing their reason for being there or find the money to continue wrestling at another school.

"We had some seniors who could've been very good, even All-Americans, but all of a sudden they had to decide did they just want to go to school, or did they want to try and transfer somewhere and finish up their wrestling?" Olson remembered. "Doing that for one year is a very hard thing, especially at the end of the year, when most colleges don't have money for a late transfer. And they have to make sure all their credits are transferable. It was just a really bad scenario."

Though Abbott believes elite-level wrestlers will continue to find outlets for their talents, it's the high school-level competitors who have yet to come into their own that may suffer the most.

"Where you see lost opportunities are the kids who don't have the financial means to be able to manage the situation if they're not given support," Abbott said.

"There are a lot of ‘Rocky' stories out there in wrestling, guys who were good solid high school wrestlers but were really able to excel at the college and international levels," the wrestling advocate continued. "By having fewer opportunities, you're not allowing that possibility for a number of people."

The Business of Wrestling

Nowhere is college spending on more elaborate, bombastic display than in their football programs. Coaches routinely command salaries in excess of seven figures; one school constructed a $300,000 lighting scheme for a practice field and then never used it.

Lopiano argues that it's this kind of gross over expenditure, not Title IX, that's killing fringe sports.

"How can you justify any one sport eating up 85 full scholarships and spending $2 million on a coach and sacrificing wrestling? Women are getting the raw end of that deal, too," she said.

While Abbott and others counter by saying football helps subsidize both men's and women's sports, the numbers don't bear that out. Because of such costly investments in cultivating winning teams, most NCAA football and basketball squads operate at a deficit: 60 percent of teams average losses nearing $4 million per year.

In contrast, wrestlers are able to forgo expensive travel schedules and equipment in favor of a mat. Many Division I teams could operate on an annual budget in the low six figures. Yale, which took away its varsity status in wrestling in 1991, had an expense cap of $4,000; their football program, $400,000. As an added insult, wrestlers were turned away from the varsity weight room.

Despite the cost of what Lopiano has dubbed the football "arms race," schools are still hesitant to accept contributions from fervent supporters of wrestling that raise funds to help programs stay viable. Princeton refused a $2.3 million grant to keep its 90-year-old wrestling legacy afloat, a sign that schools aren't concerned with money so much as they are the head count.

Lopiano believes that there's simply a lack of interest in wrestling -- "It's gone out of popularity" -- while Abbott bemoans the lack of support at the collegiate level for a surging high school base.

"You have entire states that have strong high school wrestling, like Florida, that have no wrestling programs," Abbott said. "Washington State has no Division I wrestling. It's not reflective of what's going on the sports community. It's a travesty."

The MMA Effect

Should Title IX's ramifications continue unhindered, MMA could conceivably see a shift in how bouts are contested.

"The Olympic and collegiate world-class wrestlers that stepped in to MMA early on raised the level of expectation of athleticism," said Couture. "Guys like Dan Severn (Pictures), Mark Coleman (Pictures), Don Frye (Pictures) and myself all came in around the same time, within a year or two of each other. It definitely influenced the sport.

"I think guys who have participated in wrestling have skills and a mindset that translate very well to fighting and MMA. It depends on the individual what they do with it."

Watching early events from embryonic promotions like the IVC reveals the extent of the wrestler's conditioning influence in the fight game. Fighters often wave off bouts not because they're hurt, but because their lungs are burning too hard to continue. Early UFC events were a showcase for paunchy weekend warriors in t-shirts, a gas tank prepared to take them no more than a few minutes.

"They didn't have the battle conditioning or the cardio conditioning," said Abbott.

For adolescents who someday dream of being a Las Vegas fight attraction, the only school-sanctioned outlet for developing those skills is in a high school gymnasium. But without support from the collegiate level, argued Abbott, the crucial level of ability needed for MMA won't be properly cultivated.

"I would contend that a lot of the athletes who want to become the Coutures or Hendersons realize they need to pursue the world or Olympic level," he said. "They need to be NCAA All-Americans. If wrestling is a core skill in MMA, the higher level of wrestling success you have should translate into a higher level of MMA success. That's going to be part of their career progression."

Olson, who has been featured in Strikeforce and the WEC, agrees.

"It's a sad thing to see," he sighed. "Josh Koscheck (Pictures) is a national champion. These guys won't have that kind of experience to get into MMA."

A combat sport without a substantial wrestling base, Olson continued, is going to be less dynamic. "It'd be like K-1. All stand-up, and then you'd have submissions," he speculated. "That's exactly how it would be. I think it's a lot more exciting this way because now guys who are wrestlers are becoming so well rounded and can mix other skills with wrestling.

"It makes for more of a show. You never know what's going to happen, if they're going to stand-up or get a double-leg and slam their opponent."

Solutions

Title IX has withstood several challenges in court, most notably from the National Wrestling Coaches Association, a coalition of mentors who decided to commemorate the law's 30th anniversary in 2002 by suing the Department of Education for men's discrimination.

Federal court rejected the suit, claiming that educational entities are still at liberty to cut or cap athletic endeavors for reasons unrelated to Title IX.

Nonetheless, Abbott says the recently formed College Sports Council is continuing an advocacy and educational response at the political level: "There are people out there who are educated and have all the best interests of the student athletes in mind that are trying to go out there and do battle in the political field and in the public realm on the issue."

Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert, an ex-wrestling coach, has gone to bat for threatened programs by attempting to refine Title IX, though with only mixed results. But it's the communities, not the bureaucrats, who make the biggest difference, suggested Abbott.

"One of the main things wrestling can do on a college level is continue to have strong programs with good fan attendance, good alumni support, and to have coaches and athletes that represent the school and sport with dignity," he said. "You have to entrench every single program on campus so it's indispensable to that community."

Recently, USA Wrestling and the team-based IFL formed a partnership that will allow each organization to boost the profile of the other in the eyes of their two slightly disparate audiences. "They'll be doing some promotion of USA Wrestling through their media outlets and at some of their events," Abbott said. "And we'll be exposing people in wrestling to the opportunities in the IFL, trying to get people interested in the League."

Lopiano, who insists wrestling is a casualty partially because of the expensive football programs, believes that regeneration can start by examining the exorbitant coaching salaries found near blocking sleds and basketball hoops.

"The wrestling coaches are afraid to take on football," she charged. "Wrestling coaches should be crying for an antitrust exemption that would allow the NCAA to cap the football and basketball coaches salaries, which have become obscene. We're working on the exemption because we don't see any way to comply with Title IX if they're going to throw all the money into football."

While some argue money isn't the issue, and the quota is, more available funds would seemingly create as many women's opportunities as men's.

"If they do that, they're going to keep all the wrestling teams and they can comply with Title IX, too. But the college presidents won't do it," said Lopiano, because colleges who want to allocate funds to marquee sports like football can use Title IX as a scapegoat.

Baldwin, who drummed up support for Binghamton University's program, believes that even rival schools have cause to fight possible cuts in their conference. "If I were a wrestler on Oregon, I would literally go to every other university in the conference that we competed against," he said. "It's easy to rally these guys because they know the entire existence of the sport is being threatened.

"A couple of my friends wrestled at other universities, and some of the guys at Penn State supported Binghamton. To this day they keep writing checks to support the coach there. And I'm not talking 50 bucks. I'm talking $500, a $1,000."

Colleges also have the option of enlisting an intermediary like Valerie Bonnette, a former employee at the Office of Civil Rights who has an extensive history in Title IX education. She now operates Good Sports, Inc., a consulting form specializing in helping schools achieve gender equality without sacrificing tenured programs.

According to Bonnette -- who has recently authored a plain-English manual on Title IX compliance -- wrestling programs have been sacrificed due to a simple case of ignorance on the part of educational institutions who find complying with the other "prongs" of Title IX too involved or confusing.

"There are many programs in the country where women are under-represented and yet they're complying with Title IX," she said. "So the idea that schools have to drop men's teams is just wrong. They're making a choice. And in my opinion, many times it's an uninformed choice about what their compliance options are."

Schools, said Bonnette, typically choose proportionality only because they're fearful that they can't sufficiently prove compliance with the other options if challenged in a court of law. "Test one is very easy to understand. The idea that they can select numbers and protect themselves from a lawsuit is very enticing. There isn't a lot of clear explanation out there on how (the other two) work.

"But we have clients that are meeting test three and we could show that in court if we had to. Some of our clients have a student body that is 50 percent women, with 38 percent of them being sports participants. But they're complying, because they're offering everything for which there's interest, ability, and competition."

Looking Ahead

While wrestling continues to thrive at the high school level, offering combat sports experience to adolescents, women's advocacy groups are eyeing the disproportionate number of male athletes with intent to change it.

"There are many special-interest groups that are trying to enforce Title IX with the proportionality quota at the high school level," said Abbott. "Right now, there are about a million more high school boys competing than girls. If they put that into effect, you'd have to cut a million opportunities for boys in sports that compete."

Among that number could conceivably be the next Henderson or Sean Sherk (Pictures).

For Couture, normally so genial, the Title IX debate is cause for outrage. As a coach at Portland State, his program was on the chopping block twice due to Title IX concerns. Thanks to public support and outside funding, it was exempt from the guillotine.

"There's a huge contingent of high school wrestlers that now have to go out of state and seek other opportunities to compete in their sport," he said. "Olympic sports like wrestling take in the shorts to comply with gender equity quotas based on Title IX and that's not what it was intended to do. Rather than go out and raise money and create opportunities for women, they cut programs and take those funds and put them in women's programs to maintain the quota that Title IX lays down. It's not fair to the men.

"In my opinion, it's kind of a chickens--t way out."




Posted by: ReproMan

This would be too awesome.

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UFC 78: Andrei Arlovski vs. Brandon Vera?

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Former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski could likely face Brandon Vera during a pay-per-view (PPV) event to be held in November, according to two separate UFCmania.com sources.


Grumblings about the showdown surfaced during a meet-and-greet with Arlovski over the weekend in Ontario, Calif. We were unable to confirm or deny this rumor with the manager for “The Pitbull,” Keith Gelman, at the time of this writing.

However, if this bout is indeed booked it would feature two of the most popular fighters currently on the UFC roster. It would also help clear up a muddied picture within the suddenly crowded division.


Just yesterday, we passed along a report that mentioned “The Truth” would soon resolve his management issues, which have kept him on the sidelines since November 2006. Prior to the hiatus, he was rising fast in the division and was supposedly offered a contract to fight then-champion Tim Sylvia at UFC 68 back in March.


Even though he only has one fight remaining on his current UFC deal, Vera said he wants to fight twice in 2007. But, if he appears in November, it looks like he’s one and done for this year — win or lose.


Something tells me that most fans at this point couldn’t care less, especially if he’s locked inside the cage with the Belarusian.


Arlovski is a marquee attraction that has been noticeably absent — much to the chagrin of several UFCmania.com readers — since his last appearance at UFC 70: “Nations Collide” in April. He won that fight via unanimous decision over Fabricio Werdum and, prior to the performance, was thought to be next in line to challenge for the title.


It never happened and fans were left bewildered when the UFC booked four fights in the span of four weeks (August 25-September 22) and Arlovski was not among those to be featured.


Without question, a match up between Vera and Arlovski would be fantastic and a solid addition to a card that features (maybe, depending on the steroid charge) UFC Lightweight Champion Sean Sherk vs. BJ Penn.


However, both fighters as far as I can tell only have one fight each remaining on their UFC contracts. In addition, Vera has not yet been before the California State Athletic Commission to formally sever ties with his manager, Mark Dion.


Put simply, there are a lot of balls in the air being juggled right now. Not to mention, we have yet to receive confirmation on way or another from Arlovski’s manager.


But it’s definitely a showdown worth debating, whether it happens or not.
UFC 78 is expected to take place at the Prudential Arena in Newark, New Jersey, on November 17.




Posted by: AKIRA

Not bad. Where has Vera been?



Posted by: A Black Guy

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Not bad. Where has Vera been?
Bitching about money.



Posted by: AKIRA

Hah, well has he been getting paid while hes bitching?



Posted by: BoneCrusher

GSP wins another one on shear striking power ...



Posted by: AKIRA

Jesus. Repro will love that. Were they fighting on a pool table?



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Jesus. Repro will love that. Were they fighting on a pool table?
Looks like it ... with what looked like the kind of fencing you'd use on a dog cage.



Posted by: A Black Guy

Speaking of MMA news, Shady Mar told me that she's fucking Cole Miller now.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Dehhhh who's Shady Mar?



Posted by: A Black Guy

A local 18 year old harlot.

She dated our friend Spencer, possibly fucked "The Rat." (not sure what all went on there.)

All in all, she's a pretty fun girl, no ego or anything, ok head on her shoulders, but she's 18...so she's just out to party, no cares, no responsibilities.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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A local 18 year old harlot.

She dated our friend Spencer, possibly fucked "The Rat." (not sure what all went on there.)

All in all, she's a pretty fun girl, no ego or anything, ok head on her shoulders, but she's 18...so she's just out to party, no cares, no responsibilities.
Myyeaaahhh ... a fuck buddy for those of the proper age group. She's a year younger than my son ...



Posted by: ReproMan

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GSP wins another one on shear striking power ...


I hate midgets.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Didn't mean to post anything that would touch on any sensitive issues You're not vertically challenged er anything are you?

Them midgets were banging their lil hearts out. They put on a better show then some of the shit we see on UFC even.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Didn't mean to post anything that would touch on any sensitive issues You're not vertically challenged er anything are you?

Them midgets were banging their lil hearts out. They put on a better show then some of the shit we see on UFC even.
Well, I'm not the tallest guy in the world @ 5'9" but I wouldn't say vertically challenged.

Much like clowns, I have a legitimate fear of midgets.



Posted by: ReproMan

I'm about sick of seeing Lutter's name come up anyway. Send him packing Dana.

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Report: Thales Leites to Replace Travis Lutter at UFC 74

Posted by UFC Junkie on August 1, 2007 at 7:45 pm ET

Thales Leites (11-1 MMA, 2-1 UFC), who’s riding a two-fight win streak in the UFC, will replace Travis Lutter and face Ryan Jensen at UFC 74 next month.


Earlier today we passed along news of Lutter’s decision to pull out of the Aug. 25 Las Vegas event, and Dave Meltzer of Wrestling Observer just recently reported Leites as the replacement.


Lutter announced he was suffering from a problematic neck — an injury first caused from a UFC 54 fight with Trevor Prangley in August 2005.


His scheduled opponent, Victory Fighting Championships veteran Jensen (11-1 MMA, 0-0 UFC), will now fight Leites, a four-year MMA veteran. Leites made his debut at The Ultimate Fighter 4 Finale and dropped a unanimous decision to Martin Kampmann. He rebounded with a unanimous decision victory over Pete Sell (UFC 69) and a recent first-round submission victory over Floyd Sword at The Ultimate Fighter 5 Finale.


The Brazilian middleweight was originally slated to face Nate Marquardt at “Ortiz vs. Shamrock 3: The Final Chapter” this past October but was forced to withdrawal because of visa issues.


UFC 74 takes place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas on Aug. 25. Randy Couture will face Gabriel Gonzaga in the night’s main event, and former welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre will face Josh Koscheck in a bout that promises the winner a title shot in early 2008.

For the latest UFC 74 fight card, check out the UFC Rumors section of UFCjunkie.com.




Posted by: BoneCrusher

This will be a better fight anyway. We've seen Leites come up with flying knees 1:30 in the 3rd round. He's much more of a high energy fighter that Lutter is.



Posted by: ReproMan

Should be a good one. I hope Riggs can finally get on track.

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UFC (WEC) Quick Quote: Riggs and Miller set for WEC October fight


“I’ve been trainin’ in my backyard with a banana tree that I kick and climb once in a while. I also have a tire that I lift and swing around. I watch a lot of Charles Bronson videos, and work out with Balki Bartokomous from “Perfect Strangers.’”
– Former UFC fighters Jason “Mayhem” Miller and Joe Riggs will fight in an October World Extreme Cagefighting (WEC) middleweight bout to determine a number one contender for the title. “Diesel” actually confirmed the showdown via FightNetwork.com, but Miller’s response was a little more colorful. More on the WEC 185-pound championship picture coming very soon.




Posted by: ReproMan

Pretty nice little card. I'm looking forward to seeing Filho in action.

Venue: Hard Rock Hotel in Las Vegas, Nevada

Main Card Bouts:

WEC Welterweight Championship
Carlos Condit vs. Brock Larson

WEC Middleweight Championship
Paulo Filho vs. Joe Doerksen

Stephen Ledbetter vs. Jeff Curran
Sherron Leggett vs. Jamie Varner

Preliminary Bouts:
Fernando Gonzalez vs. Hiromitsu Miura
Justin Robbins vs. Antonio Banuelos
Logan Clark vs. Eric Schambari
Blas Avena vs. Tiki Ghosn
Steve Cantwell vs. Justin McElfresh



Posted by: bigss75

It will be nice to see Joe Riggs get back after it, it will be even better to see him tapout against Mayhem.



Posted by: bigss75

WEC just started and Frank Mir is an announcer



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Coolness. Thanks bigss!!



Posted by: ReproMan

Lol, I guess you missed my post on the fight card?

Twas a decent event.



Posted by: bigss75

Filho looked good, I wonder how much money White paid all those UFC guys to show up to it



Posted by: ReproMan

Yup, Filho looked good, didn't get to see enough of Condit to get a good read. Larson came out uncharacteristically tentative and got caught in a pretty nice armbar though. Tiki got fuggin swarmed, lol!



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Lol, I guess you missed my post on the fight card?

Twas a decent event.
LOL ... yeah I just clicked in here and saw bigss post and was all ohhhhh no set the DVR!!!! I missed everything this weekend because I downloaded Lost in high def and watched the whole season start to finish. I just now at like 5:am my time finished watching the WEC event. One of the advantages of being OCD

Once again Steve Mazzagatti sucked balls and gave up the sub vic without the tap. When will they just shoot that blind retard? I swear he is getting bought off or he is betting on fights he ref's. Larson did not tap. He grabbed Condit's arm but did not tap. Condit didn't have thumb control and Larson kept twisting his elbow out of center lock.

Mazzagatti did the same shit last time I saw him ref. It was in an IFL fight between the Lions & the Scorpions. Whitehead literally talked Mazzagatti into stopping the fight by saying that White had tapped when White never tapped at all. I was like WTF?!?!?
Mazzagatti needs to be from MMA. I would not even let that fucking guy in the building if he bought a ticket.

The fights were all good clean stuff. It was the ref that sucked.



Posted by: A Black Guy

I'm pretty sure Larson tapped on Condit's knee right when they turned and Larson's back was against the cage you could see it.

It still looked like Mazzagatti was going to stop it before that happened though.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
LOL ... yeah I just clicked in here and saw bigss post and was all ohhhhh no set the DVR!!!! I missed everything this weekend because I downloaded Lost in high def and watched the whole season start to finish. I just now at like 5:am my time finished watching the WEC event. One of the advantages of being OCD

Once again Steve Mazzagatti sucked balls and gave up the sub vic without the tap. When will they just shoot that blind retard? I swear he is getting bought off or he is betting on fights he ref's. Larson did not tap. He grabbed Condit's arm but did not tap. Condit didn't have thumb control and Larson kept twisting his elbow out of center lock.

Mazzagatti did the same shit last time I saw him ref. It was in an IFL fight between the Lions & the Scorpions. Whitehead literally talked Mazzagatti into stopping the fight by saying that White had tapped when White never tapped at all. I was like WTF?!?!?
Mazzagatti needs to be from MMA. I would not even let that fucking guy in the building if he bought a ticket.

The fights were all good clean stuff. It was the ref that sucked.
He tapped. We rewound it on the TiVO. Like ABG said, it was a quick 2 tapper on Condit's knee.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

I've already deleted it so I can't revue it again ... but I'd still kick the guy in the face if I saw him in public. I hate Mazzagatti.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

I did rewind it when I saw the call and didn't see an actual tap out. Now I gotta d'load it off of MMA tracker & check it out.

Dude I'm still pissed off. ABG you do torrents?



Posted by: AKIRA

I saw it too. Two taps.

Even though he was pissed off, he didnt get up right away and have a look of surprise. He looked like he was thinking "god dammit, I made a mistake."

Plus, they didnt interview him afterwards.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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I saw it too. Two taps.

Even though he was pissed off, he didnt get up right away and have a look of surprise. He looked like he was thinking "god dammit, I made a mistake."

Plus, they didnt interview him afterwards.
Nah he was pissed as hell but they didn't show it because he was strategically kept out of camera view. He was arguing with Mazinoti but I'll download it after I finish downloading Battlestar Galactica season 3 and watch it a little more better.



Posted by: AKIRA

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Nah he was pissed as hell but they didn't show it because he was strategically kept out of camera view. He was arguing with Mazinoti but I'll download it after I finish downloading Battlestar Galactica season 3 and watch it a little more better.
Was there a show called that in the early 80s late 70s?

He looked frustrated, if anything.

It looked to me like it could had been a legitamate tap right before they went down.

If I were him, I wouldve gotten up right away and declared a premature stoppage. Pretty much just like Ken Shamrock did in Ken vs. Tito 2.



Posted by: A Black Guy

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If I were him, I wouldve gotten up right away and declared a premature stoppage. Pretty much just like Ken Shamrock did in Ken vs. Tito 2.
Larson knows he's not quite as good of an actor as Shamrock.





Posted by: bigss75

All those years in the WWE paid off for Shamrock.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Was there a show called that in the early 80s late 70s?

He looked frustrated, if anything.

It looked to me like it could had been a legitimate tap right before they went down.

If I were him, I wouldve gotten up right away and declared a premature stoppage. Pretty much just like Ken Shamrock did in Ken vs. Tito 2.
It was a series from back in the day but now it's been redone with great set work and killer females. I like good sci-fi stuff, but hate the hokey stuff. Firefly sucks, battlestar is great.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Ouch ...

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Posted by: fufu

Last night's WEC was refreshing. I don't know how others feel, but I love a first round win. Rather the the yawn fest alot of UFC fighters put on.

However, I am excited to have Roger Huerta and Glay Guida fighting(not each other, althought that would be awesome) next card. Along with the obvious others, but those light weights usually put the pace.



Posted by: bigss75

Anyone else hear of the major Staph outbreak MFS is having. Fisher had to back out of his UFN match, Drew McFedries is in the hospital, and Tim Sylvia is got it too



Posted by: A Black Guy

Hmph, sucks for Din having to fight Florian. Kind of a dangerous matchup and not a whole lot of glory if he gets the win.



Posted by: ReproMan

Florian to Replace Fisher

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Tuesday, August 07, 2007
by Sherdog.com Staff

Several sources have confirmed to Sherdog.com that the popular Kenny Florian (Pictures) will replace hard-hitting Spencer Fisher (Pictures) after a staph infection in the King's right knee forced the southpaw to bow out of his UFC Fight Night main event clash with Din Thomas (Pictures) on Sept. 19.

Fisher is one of several fighters in the Bettendorf, Iowa gym stricken with staph recently, said the lightweight's trainer, Pat Miletich (Pictures).

"They've been quarantined out of the gym," the trainer said. "It's not something you get from dirty mats or hospital equipment. It spreads from human to human contact."

Florian, 31, of Westwood, Mass., confirmed on Tuesday evening with Insidefighting.com that he has signed a bout agreement to face the American Top Team lightweight.




Posted by: ReproMan

MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More

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HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (over 205 pounds)

#1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko Cro Cop
4. Josh Barnett
5. Randy Couture
6. Gabriel Gonzaga
7. Tim Sylvia
8. Andrei Arlovski
9. Fabricio Werdum
10. Aleksander Emelianenko






LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (205-pound limit)

#1 Light Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
2. Quinton Jackson
3. Chuck Liddell
4. Dan Henderson
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou
7. Ricardo Arona
8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
9. Tito Ortiz
10. Kazuhiro Nakamura






MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION (185-pound limit)

#1 Middleweight Fighter in the World: Anderson Silva
2. Paulo Filho
3. Matt Lindland
4. Rich Franklin
5. Dan Henderson
6. Denis Kang
7. Nathan Marquardt
8. Robbie Lawler
9. Kazuo Misaki
10. Frank Trigg




WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION (170-pound limit)

#1 Welterweight Fighter in the World: Matt Serra
2. Georges St. Pierre
3. Matt Hughes
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Karo Parisyan
6. Diego Sanchez
7. Jon Fitch
8. Jake Shields
9. Carlos Condit
10. Akira Kikuchi





LIGHTWEIGHT DIVISION (160-pound limit)

#1 Lightweight Fighter in the World: Takanori Gomi
2. Hayato Sakurai
3. Gilbert Melendez
4. Tatsuya Kawajiri
5. Shinya Aoki
6. Vitor "Shaolin" Ribeiro
7. Joachim Hansen
8. Mitsuhiro Ishida
9. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto
10. Joe Stevenson







FEATHERWEIGHT DIVISION (145 pounds and under)

#1 Featherweight Fighter in the World: Akitoshi Tamura
2. "Lion" Takeshi Inoue
3. Antonio Carvalho
4. Hatsu Hioki
5. Urijah Faber
6. Masakazu Imanari
7. Tenkei Fujimiya
8. Jeff Curran
9. Yoshiro Maeda
10. Daiki "DJ" Hata




Posted by: ReproMan

Brawl Sports: Liddell to wait his turn for title shot

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Posted by Steve Sievert at August 7, 2007



There will not be a quick path back to a title fight for former UFC light heavyweight champion Chuck Liddell.

Despite being, arguably, the UFC's most marketable fighter and an ex-champ who had four successful title defenses, "The Iceman" won't get a title shot even if he wins his next fight.

UFC President Dana White confirmed to the Chronicle's Brawl Sports that it will take more than a victory over Keith Jardine at UFC 76 to get Liddell back in the octagon with a title on the line.

"Chuck would have to win one more fight. I think Chuck has to win two fights in a row and then, yeah, he's back in the mix again. He got knocked out in a minute 30 in the first round (in his last fight). No matter how great he is, I'd like to see him win a couple of fights and then come back and fight for the title again."

As for the Liddell-Jardine matchup in Anaheim, Calif., Sept. 22, White believes the timing was right to put the two bangers together.

"Him and Jardine were on a collision course anyway ... similar styles, both coming off knockout losses, both their fights ended very abruptly, so we did it."

On paper, it's a less-than-compelling twosome and doesn't measure up to the main events of some of the other major UFC shows this year. But, that's what a lot of us were saying about Georges St-Pierre versus Matt Serra at UFC 69 and that turned out to be a jaw-dropper of a fight.

As for "The Iceman" having to take two turns before getting a title shot, if White sticks to that plan, who gets the winner of Quinton Jackson vs. Dan Henderson? With somewhat limited options in the division, you have to think the Shogun Rua-Forrest Griffin victor at 76 makes the most sense - at least I do. Source:




Posted by: bigss75

Kinda screwy ratings on there especially since Nog's last match, he's in the top ten but not second.

Is Sakurai/Sanchez still going down?




Posted by: ReproMan

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Kinda screwy ratings on there especially since Nog's last match, he's in the top ten but not second.

Is Sakurai/Sanchez still going down?
I thought Nog looked like crap but I guess he didn't lose so they kept him in the spot he was already in. Sanchez is actually fighting Jon Fitch now.



Posted by: A Black Guy

Rich Franklin > Dan Henderson & Denis Kang

What fucking 12 year old is making these rankings?



Posted by: ReproMan

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Rich Franklin > Dan Henderson & Denis Kang

What fucking 12 year old is making these rankings?
I can't see Franklin being above 8 honestly. They are ass backwards over there.



Posted by: fufu

On the last WEC card...I noticed a striking resembelence between Paulo Filho and Steve-o.





Now there is looks so-so. But after his last fight a few nights ago...he looked just like him.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Rich Franklin > Dan Henderson & Denis Kang

What fucking 12 year old is making these rankings?
Hendo owns two Pride belts ... 185 and 205. The belts are somewhat devalued lately ... yet still TAKEN from their previous owners while the belts still had value. How anyone can rank him anything less than #1 @ middleweight (2 @ worst) is using rithmatic instead of knowledge.

That being said ... Shamrock still kicked Hendo's ass in a grappling match.

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Posted by: BoneCrusher

Shamrock chokes out a DJ ...

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Posted by: ReproMan

MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More

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MMAWeekly has obtained the fighter salary information for WEC 29, which took place on August 5 in Las Vegas, Nevada.

The event was the WEC's fifth since being purchased by UFC parent company Zuffa, and it was also the WEC's second live event on cable television channel Versus.

The following figures are based on the fighter salary information that Zuffa and the WEC are required by law to submit to the state athletic commissions, including the winners' bonuses.

Although MMA fighters do not have collective bargaining or a union, the fighters' salaries are still public record, just as with every other major sport in the United States. Any undisclosed bonuses that Zuffa and the WEC also pay its fighters, but do not disclose to the athletic commissions (specifically, pay-per-view bonuses for the top pay-per-view main event fighters, which would not apply since this event was not on pay-per-view), are not included in the figures below.

In the listings below, "Title Match & Main Event Fighters" are defined as fighters who compete in the main event of a show and/or compete in a title fight on a show. "Main Card Fighters" are defined as fighters whose fights appear on the main card, but not in title fights or in the main event. "Preliminary Match Fighters" are defined as fighters whose matches take place before the live broadcast goes on the air, regardless of whether or not those matches end up airing on the TV broadcast.

Not all of the fighters on this card had identical amounts for their "win money" and "show money," so we have noted any differences next to each fighter's salary.


Title Match & Main Event Fighters

-Paulo Filho: $50,000 (1st fight in WEC after 8 fights in Pride; includes $15,000 win bonus; defeated Joe Doerksen)

-Joe Doerksen: $30,000 (1st fight in WEC after 4 fights in UFC; win bonus would have been $5,000; lost to Paulo Filho)

-Carlos Condit: $26,000 (3rd fight in WEC; includes $13,000 win bonus; defeated Brock Larson)

-Brock Larson: $12,000 (3rd fight in WEC after 2 fights in UFC; win bonus would have been $12,000; lost to Carlos Condit)


Main Card Fighters

-Jamie Varner: $14,000 (1st fight in WEC after 2 fights in UFC; includes $7,000 win bonus; defeated Sherron Leggett)

-Jeff Curran: $10,000 (2nd fight in WEC after 1 fight in Pride; includes $2,000 win bonus; defeated Stephen Ledbetter)

-Stephen Ledbetter: $5,000 (1st fight in WEC; win bonus would have been $5,000; lost to Jeff Curran)

-Sherron Leggett: $4,000 (2nd fight in WEC; win bonus would have been $4,000; lost to Jamie Varner)


Preliminary Match Fighters

-Antonio Banuelos: $8,000 (9th fight in WEC; includes $4,000 win bonus; defeated Justin Robbins)

-Eric Schambari: $8,000 (2nd fight in WEC; includes $4,000 win bonus; defeated Logan Clark)

-Hiromitsu Miura: $6,000 (2nd fight in WEC; includes $3,000 win bonus; defeated Fernando Gonzalez)

-Steven Cantwell: $6,000 (2nd fight in WEC; includes $3,000 win bonus; defeated Justin McElfresh)

-Logan Clark: $6,000 (2nd fight in WEC after 1 fight in UFC; win bonus would have been $6,000; lost to Eric Schambari)

-Tiki Ghosn: $5,000 (4th fight in WEC after 4 fights in UFC; win bonus would have been $5,000; lost to Blas Avena)

-Blas Avena: $4,500 (2nd fight in WEC; includes $2,000 win bonus; defeated Tiki Ghosn)

-Justin McElfresh: $3,000 (2nd fight in WEC; win bonus would have been $3,000; lost to Steven Cantwell)

-Fernando Gonzalez: $3,000 (4th fight in WEC; win bonus would have been $3,000; lost to Hiromitsu Miura)

-Justin Robbins: $2,000 (1st fight in WEC; win bonus would have been $2,000; lost to Antonio Banuelos)

Disclosed Fighter Payroll: $199,500




Posted by: ReproMan

Stevenson climbing the lightweight ladder - MMA/Boxing - Yahoo! Sports

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Stevenson climbing the lightweight ladder
By Kevin Iole, Yahoo! Sports
August 8, 2007

Peace, Joe Stevenson says, is a beautiful thing.
And though the UFC lightweight contender says bluntly that he has "huge, big problems" in his life, he acts as if he doesn't have a care.

He and his wife, Maia, don't sweat even the most significant ordeals they may face. He's been through so many monumental issues in his life, he says the ordinary day-to-day problems that plague any young couple don't even register.

An old Christian prayer says, "God grant me the courage to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things that I can and the wisdom to know the difference."

At 25, Joe Stevenson says he definitely has the wisdom to know the difference.

"Man, I've been through some things in my life that nobody should have to go through," he says softly. "Tough things. Real problems. This stuff now, hey, it's a piece of cake. I'm at peace."


He's preparing to fight Kurt Pellegrino on Aug. 25 at UFC 74 in Las Vegas. UFC president Dana White concedes that Stevenson may get a shot at the UFC lightweight championship later this year pending the resolution of a steroids complaint filed against champion Sean Sherk by the California Athletic Commission.


Stevenson knows the signficance of the fight with Pellegrino, even though Pellegrino isn't widely known.


Stevenson has a reputation of occasionally slacking off in training camp, but a slip like that against Pellegrino could be fatal to his chances.


"He's a very talented guy and he can beat pretty much anyone on a given night, but his weakness is that he sometimes shows a desire not to train,"


White said. "His standup could be better, but the big thing with him is making sure he comes in ready to fight. If he's ready, there's not too much reason to worry about him. But he's shown that you have to wonder whether he's going to be in the kind of shape he needs to be in."


Stevenson is aware of that reputation and says he's working to eradicate it. Words, he's aware, won't change that perception of him.
It will only occur by what he does in his fights. And he's training with an all-star cast in Big Bear, Calif., with the intent of being at his peak on Aug. 25.


He declined to say who his training partners are, other than to say they're big-name fighters and that someone would be shocked to hear the lengthy roster of stars he's working alongside.
But he said the fighters have pushed each other to perform at a higher level.


"Even when we walk to our cars, we race, because there is that sense of competition and pushing yourself to be the best," Stevenson said.


He's 28-6 and was the welterweight winner of Season 2 of The Ultimate Fighter, the UFC's reality show, so he already has an impressive resume.
But his record is more impressive considering what he's overcome in his life. He had a rocky childhood in which he watched his father, who was bipolar, die an agonizing death due to bone marrow cancer.


His mother was briefly incarcerated and he bounced around from family member to family member.


He became a professional fighter the day after his 17th birthday and became a father at 18, when his income was about a $1,000 a month.
He was divorced from his first wife, but the divorce was anything but simple and he'd have to drive seven hours one way just to see his children.


With that as a background, little now, he says, can distract him from his goal of winning the title or break the bond between he and his wife, Maia.
"Sometimes I can dwell on what I've been through, and that's the bad part of it, but I prefer to look at my background as something that makes me a stronger person and, by extension, a stronger fighter," Stevenson said. "If I'm in a tricky situation, I can step back and look at it and realize I've been there before or I've gotten through something just like it.


"And on the other end, you've had such bad things happen to you in the past that when something little comes up on a given day, it's not even a worry. My wife and I have huge, big problems right now and we couldn't care less about them. That's because we've been there, done that and we know that somehow, it's going to turn out right."


His coach, the highly regarded Marc Laimon, has worked with Stevenson for about four years and thinks things will turn out fine for him against Pellegrino because of the work he's put in over the last several years.
Stevenson was young but had plenty of experience when Laimon first met him.


"It wasn't like he was a guy who was struggling and really needed to be turned around," Laimon said. "He was already a pretty solid, pretty complete fighter. I just added a few things, a few positional things, that kind of helped him to become more well-rounded."


Since a loss to Josh Neer last year, Stevenson has won three in a row, stopping Yves Edwards on cuts and submitting Dokonjonosuke Mishima and Melvin Guillard.


He needed just 27 seconds to stop Guillard, who before the bout had accused Stevenson of using HGH and who had predicted a first-round knockout.


Stevenson was calm in the face of Guillard's threats and went on and manhandled him. It didn't escape the notice of White, who may have to find someone to fight B.J. Penn for the vacant lightweight title if Sherk is stripped.


Sherk's appeal before the California commission will be in October. White said he hadn't made up his mind what to do because he said he believes Sherk's denials, but he said if Sherk is suspended by the commission, he would probably strip him of the belt.


That would open a spot for someone to fight Penn for the then-vacant belt in November.


Stevenson knows it's getting ahead of himself to think of that, but says he can't help himself.


"The motivating thing for me is, pushing myself to be better every day knowing that I'm getting near that (title shot) and that it's becoming more and more of a reality for me," Stevenson said. "Now is the time more than ever I can't afford a slip. I totally understand that. Sometimes, when you have a bad fight or whatever, you say to yourself, 'Well, there's another time.' But I can't afford right now to think that way. "I have to be on top of it. I have to be impressive in everything I do now, because I know my chance might depend upon it."




Posted by: BoneCrusher

This 8 year old kid can kick your ass.

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Posted by: bio-chem

thats rad for an 8 year old



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
This 8 year old kid can kick your ass.

YouTube Video
ROFL, he looks like a mini Shogun. That's awesome.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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ROFL, he looks like a mini Shogun. That's awesome.
Thanks on the mmaplayground link ReproBro ... I been diggin' on the MMA videos over there.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Thanks on the mmaplayground link ReproBro ... I been diggin' on the MMA videos over there.
I guess I have more exploring to do, I didn't even know they were there.



Posted by: fufu

Anybody know what the deal is with Fedor? If he has another fight planned or what fed he is in/going to be in?



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Anybody know what the deal is with Fedor? If he has another fight planned or what fed he is in/going to be in?
The latest rumor is that he signed with K-1 but I don't think that's been confirmed yet. His people were up front about the fact that the UFC offered him the most money but they have a problem with him competing in the World Sambo Championships. Hopefully they can get that shit done so we can see him soon.



Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
The latest rumor is that he signed with K-1 but I don't think that's been confirmed yet. His people were up front about the fact that the UFC offered him the most money but they have a problem with him competing in the World Sambo Championships. Hopefully they can get that shit done so we can see him soon.
ahhh wtf.

thanks



Posted by: bigss75

I think his brother signed with K1 but doesnt mean Fedor won't sign with UFC. Kinda a waste if he goes to K1



Posted by: BoneCrusher

AL Bundy says .... after 15 years training in BJJ with the Gracies.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Which brings to mind that we should all share our links. You need to sign up to view some of these but so what. Free MMA ...

MMAplayground has videos (thanks again ReproBro)

ProElite has videos and does the live streaming bit for under cards of the ShoEX fights such as the last one with Shamrock and Baroni.

MMATracker is a torrent site that has most every fight that ever happened in the MMA world. It's a private tracker so ya gotta know someone with an invite, but worth the effort to get one for.

FCZ ... Fullcontactzone is another torrent site that has most every fight that ever happened in the MMA world plus they index other sports like boxing, nascar, soccer, WWE, and w/e. Seasier to get an invite too. I have a few left. If I know you as not an asshole pm me and I'll send you one.

BODOG has high def downloads of some of there stuff.

I know I've left out some good sites so cough 'em up fellas. Where do you get your MMA buzz on at?



Posted by: A Black Guy

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This 8 year old kid can kick your ass.
That's why you gotta fight them when they're younger.

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Posted by: BoneCrusher

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That's why you gotta fight them when they're younger.

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I use a tazer just like everyone else.



Posted by: bigss75

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Which brings to mind that we should all share our links. You need to sign up to view some of these but so what. Free MMA ...
Those are some pretty good sites, I dl most my MMA events from projectw.org or warez-bb.org



Posted by: ReproMan

UFC: Today Spike TV, Tomorrow the World - TVWeek - News

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UFC: Today Spike TV, Tomorrow the World Fast-Growing Sport Sets Sights on New Markets

By Chris Pursell
Ultimate Fighting Championship President Dana White, long dissatisfied with life on the fringe, has now set his sights on the world.


What is perhaps the fastest-growing sports franchise in the country -- mixed martial arts knocked both boxing and World Wrestling Entertainment from atop the pay-per-view perches in 2006 -- will undergo a significant test of its popularity next month when the league makes its first foray into broadcast syndication with the debut of the series "UFC Wired." It will also finalize a deal with HBO for a series of fights, and counts among its projects the return of Spike TV's hit "The Ultimate Fighter" and two upcoming PPV-style fight cards, one in London Sept. 8 and the other in Anaheim, Calif., Sept. 22.


"Our strategy right now is global," Mr. White said. "We're at a place in the U.S. where it's going to keep getting bigger and bigger as our fan base grows. I think that will especially be true once our syndicated series launches. But we are now in 150 countries with a powerful product that everyone understands. What we want to do now is take our events to these markets and create the first global pay-per-view with people from all over the world buying the fight."


With "UFC 75: Champion vs. Champion" taking place in London Sept. 8, the company is opening doors to do that. In addition, Mr. White said plans are in the works to take the UFC series "Live Event" on a world tour, with four stops in the U.K. and additional stops in continental Europe, Australia, Japan, Korea, Mexico and Canada.


"We have only started to tap the Hispanic market," he said. "That's the group that has kept boxing alive these past few years because they love watching fights. So we have big plans to get South America involved over the next few years."


The UFC, a private company owned by U.S. sports promotion firm Zuffa, broke the 1 million PPV-buy mark last December for the first time ever, according to analysts, on the strength of a match featuring Chuck Liddell vs. Tito Ortiz. One report said the company had a total gross PPV take of nearly $223 million in 2006, more than boxing or the WWE has ever earned. Some estimates place the value of the privately held company around $1 billion, although others think it is closer to $750 million.


Set to boost company revenue in 2008 will be the launch of UFC's first videogame since the beginning of the decade, which is expected to be released in the early part of the year.


With the success of the UFC, a slew of other MMA leagues have hit the circuit, including the International Fight League, which airs on MyNetwork TV in prime time (and boosted the network's ratings, particularly among men 18 to 49, a demographic that grew from a 0.2 to a 0.8 Nielsen Media Research rating in its first month), and BoDog fights.


However, the UFC has become known as the staple of the sport, particularly after acquiring rival Pride Fighting Championships earlier in the year. That acquisition set up the London PPV bout, which pits UFC heavyweight champion Quinton Jackson against Pride champion Dan Henderson in a title unification match.


The Sept. 22 PPV event in Anaheim will be headlined by a bout between Mr. Liddell and Keith Jardine.


"They had really good timing," said Deana Myers, senior analyst at research firm Kagan. "I think not only was the public tired of the WWE, but the UFC has good product that was able to capture audiences."


Brand Evolution

She noted that a lot of work would have to be done before the UFC would be able to pull off worldwide PPV events, including pinning down international platforms.


One deal Mr. White says won't take long to complete is the UFC's programming agreement with HBO, noting, "It will happen." He said the HBO series of fights would be used to complement programming on Spike (which has exclusivity on the UFC on basic cable) and the PPV events.
"What we're doing is going to get guys started on 'The Ultimate Fighter,' where they can then progress to a show like 'UFC Fight Night' before landing on HBO. HBO would then give them the opportunity for a title shot on PPV," he said.


"The Ultimate Fighter" marked a milestone for both the UFC and Spike, with airings of the series beating both baseball and National Basketball Association games on a regular basis. In fact, the three-hour finale of the fifth season in June won the night among men 18 to 34 and men 18 to 49 on broadcast and cable.


"The power of television has been simply incredible for this brand," said Brian J. Diamond, senior VP of sports and specials at Spike TV. "When we debuted 'The Ultimate Fighter' in 2005, we were able to bring in not only hard-core fans but casual sports fans as well as fans of reality. The whole sport kind of took off from there, and it's been a fantastic relationship for both parties."


Mr. Diamond noted that the channel is in talks to extend its agreement with the UFC, which expires in 2008, and said there have been internal discussions to expand Spike's UFC programming -- which can vary from five to seven events depending on the month -- in new ways.


The launch of syndicated series "UFC Wired" from Trifecta Entertainment this fall marks the league's first foray into broadcast television. The series is currently cleared in more than 85 percent of the country, with many major-market stations carrying it in early access or prime time, according to Trifecta President Hank Cohen.


"Mixed martial arts are becoming such an important mainstream sport, not only to fans but to television, it makes sense the next evolution of the brand is to be seen in broadcast," Mr. Cohen said. "Right now they are putting the little things in the show that they really didn't have to do, and that speaks to the quality of the organization."


"UFC Wired" will feature the best bouts from the history of the UFC as a measure to introduce the sport and its fighters to the mainstream public. The series will be hosted by former "Fear Factor" host Joe Rogan, who emcees UFC fare on pay-per-view.


"These are going to be fights that millions of people have never seen before," Mr. White said. "By learning about the sport as well as about our fighters, people are going to be interested in the next fight. I like to think that that's one way we can reintroduce ourselves to the public, who will surely learn to love this sport as much as I do."




Posted by: BoneCrusher

Fug me ... a billion? As in 1,000,000,000? Who'd a thunk it?



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Fug me ... a billion? As in 1,000,000,000? Who'd a thunk it?



Posted by: ReproMan





Posted by: BoneCrusher

Is there an echo in this thread?



Posted by: bigss75

Video Prank Call to Dana White - ufc, dana, white, prank, mancow - Dailymotion Share Your Videos

Funny Prank Call to Dana White



Posted by: fufu

Ah yes.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

... that commercial looked gay as hell.



Posted by: A Black Guy

They should have had Kerr in the backround trying to slit his wrists with one.



Posted by: ReproMan

UFC blog for UFC news, MMA news, UFC rumors, UFC gossip, fighter interviews and event previews and recaps - UFCjunkie.com

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UFC 74 Media Conference Call Notes

Posted by Sam Caplan on August 16, 2007 at 4:11 pm ET



The UFC conducted a conference call for the media today to help promote UFC 74 next Saturday in Las Vegas.


UFC president Dana White and UFC 74 fighters Randy Couture, Gabriel Gonzaga, Georges St. Pierre and Josh Koscheck all participated in the call.
Here’s a recap of some of the more newsworthy items that were discussed:
  • Georges St. Pierre came off very well during the initial portion of the call. He said all the right things by giving Matt Serra his just due (just like he did immediately after UFC 69) and saying that we wouldn’t be seeing the old GSP vs. Koscheck next Saturday, but a brand new one. He even revealed that he’s been seeing a sports psychologist and that one thing he’s learned is that the best fighter doesn’t win a fight; the fighter who fights the best fight wins. I’ve been very critical of GSP in recent weeks, but I have to give him a lot of credit for going to a sports psychologist. It shows he takes winning seriously and wants to fight to his full athletic potential. My only complaint is that toward the latter portion of the call, the excuses (mental preparation, physical issues and illnesses in his family) came out again. In defense of GSP, he was being asked followup questions, and he was probably just trying to provide some detail. But he was a true sportsman at the start of the call and sounds determined. While I’m sticking to my prediction that Koscheck will beat him (see: “Why Koscheck will beat St. Pierre”), I am preparing for a lot of I-told-you-so emails and messages.
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  • White stated on the record that Brandon Vera has a new deal with the UFC. During a followup question, he was asked about a possible first opponent, and he said it would “probably” be Tim Sylvia. Nothing is official though, and Sylvia has to deal with staph infection in addition to his recovery from back surgery. Stay tuned.
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  • White said that the UFC and Vera never had contract issues and that it was Vera and his old management that had the contract issues. He took a shot at EliteXC promoter Gary Shaw for making comments about Vera last year when there were reports that terms between UFC and Vera were icy.
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  • When asked about Andrei Arlovski’s status, Dana said “The Pitbull” would be fighting soon and that he didn’t know exactly when or against whom because there are so many matches that are being worked on right now. My thoughts are that if Vera is fighting Sylvia, then why not Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Arlovski?
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  • What would a UFC conference call be without some talk about the HBO deal? Someone jokingly referenced White’s comments in the past that a deal with HBO would have been done in time to show a summer event. White laughed it off and said something to the effect of, “Well, now it will be signed in time for a winter event.” He still believes it will get done and even so far as went to guarantee it will get done before the year is out. When White was asked about why it’s taking so long, he said that he’s probably the reason it’s taking so long. A question about what kind of events would be telecast on HBO was brought up. White backed off from previous stories that the UK broadcasts would be televised by HBO. While White said cards from Europe could possibly be televised on HBO, shows from the U.S. will be telecast as well. He said the HBO cards will pretty much be just like the PPVs.
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  • White said he screwed up by having UFC 72 televised live. He said that UFC fans are used to watching UFC events on Saturday nights and showing the card in the afternoon wasn’t the way to go. As such, don’t expect the cards from Europe to be televised live.
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  • In regard to Wanderlei Silva, White would not confirm that he has signed with the UFC. He did say that he wants to sign Silva but it’s not a done deal and that he doesn’t want to talk about deals that aren’t done yet.
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  • Fedor Emelianenko was brought up, but there wasn’t any new news. White once again said that if Fedor was signed, he would be able to compete for the UFC heavyweight title right away.
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  • White was asked if he had any big announcements for the call or for UFC 74 planned. He said there are no big announcements planned unless something crazy happens.
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  • The dead horse that is known as the steroid issue was brought up (and I’m not blaming anyone for asking about it), and White got very animated repeating a lot of the same comments that appeared in Steve Sievert’s recent Houston Chronicle blog. White really believes that government testing is pretty stringent and that if the government tested NFL players on game day the same way fighters are tested before a fight that there would be no more football. He said the existing penalties are harsh and that fighters who use steroids when they already know that there will be consequences are “morons.“
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  • Couture was asked about why he’s been able to stay successful when other legends like Royce Gracie and Ken Shamrock are no longer as efficient as they once were. Couture was uncomfortable with the comparisons but did say that one big difference is that he’s remained active and hasn’t subjected himself to prolonged periods in which he was away from fighting.
    .Koscheck was complementary towards St. Pierre but also confident. He didn’t really want to get too much into strategy, so we’ll have to wait and see what he has planned for UFC 74. He was asked if he believes he can put GSP on his back, and Koscheck basically said yes.It sounds like no decisions about the lightweight title will be made until after Sean Sherk has his hearing before the California State Athletic Commission in October.
  • UFC 74 takes place at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas on Aug. 25. Couture will face Gonzaga in the night’s main event, and former welterweight champion St. Pierre will face Koscheck in a bout that promises the winner a title shot in early 2008.Stay tuned to UFCjunkie.com for the latest on next week’s event, including on-site coverage from Las Vegas in the days leading up to the event.




Posted by: fufu

As for having the UFC not played live in US and played later saturday night, how about having the damn event in USA. I wouldn't want to pay for an event that I won't see live. And seeing as USA holds the most cash for the UFC, appease the fans. Plus, from what I saw, European fans are worse than typical American fans(typical American fans suck!).



Posted by: AKIRA

Whats the big deal if its not live?



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
As for having the UFC not played live in US and played later saturday night, how about having the damn event in USA. I wouldn't want to pay for an event that I won't see live. And seeing as USA holds the most cash for the UFC, appease the fans. Plus, from what I saw, European fans are worse than typical American fans(typical American fans suck!).
It's free on Spike, or you can order it and watch it at 3PM, that's UFC 75 anyway. UFC 74 is live.



Posted by: fufu

d'oh! I thought that may be the case.



Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
Whats the big deal if its not live?
If I pay money for an event I want to see it as it happens.



Posted by: ReproMan

FIGHTHYPE \\ CONTENT

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SOKOUDJOU: "FEDOR IS THE GUY STANDING BETWEEN ME AND MY DREAM CAR!"

By Editor | August 17, 2007

Fans, if you missed the free chat session with former PRIDE light heavyweight star Sokoudjou, check out the entire transcript to see what he had to say about his future plans and much more. Answering questions directly from the fans, Sokoudjou talked about when we can expect to see him fighting again and who he'd like to be fighting next. "The UFC is where I would love to fight," stated Sokoudjou and you don't want to miss his thoughts on Shogun Rua, Quinton Jackson, Tito Ortiz, Brandon Vera and Fedor Emelianenko as he reminds everyone that he's a "fighter for hire" and is "looking for work right now". Check it out!

thehype: FightHype would like to welcome Sokoudjou to tonight's chat session

SOKOUDJOU: What up Fighthype!

mosleyfan: obvious question...but....When can we expect to see you fight again?

SOKOUDJOU: Hopefully by mid-September.

SOKOUDJOU: That's what I'm training for!

skankpunch: did u sign with elite xc?

SOKOUDJOU: No, because they sent us a contract and we had an attorney go over it and we never came to an agreement.

SOKOUDJOU: Im unemployed right now!

SOKOUDJOU: Fighter for hire!

SOKOUDJOU: I'm looking for work right now. Is there anyone who wants to hire me?

jaz: In an ideal world, who would you want to fight next?

SOKOUDJOU: I would love to fight Shogun or Tito, but it seems like I will never be in the UFC and Shogun has someone lined up!

mikerg: How many weeks do you train for a fight?

SOKOUDJOU: Usually it's eight weeks. We usually have 8 weeks to prepare for a fight. I started my camp at the beginning of the month, so hopefully by September.

mosleyfan: Is it tough to train and mentally stay focused when you're not even sure if you'll be fighting?

SOKOUDJOU: Yeah, its really tough because your focus is not on any certain fighter. It's really tough. You dont have a gameplan or anything.

skankpunch: so what orgs are you talking with? Is the UFC not offering u enough money?

SOKOUDJOU: Put it this way, the UFC is where I would love to fight, but the UFC is all about protecting people. I'm hoping to get a call saying "Forrest Griffin can't fight, do you want to fight Shogun?"

SOKOUDJOU: That's my dream.

SOKOUDJOU: I told them screw the money. I want to fight this and that person, but they wanted me to fight nobodys.

jaz: How do you think Rua will do against Forrest Griffin?

SOKOUDJOU: Well, to tell you the truth, I would love for Forrest to call in sick!

teetoe: How has your boy Dan Henderson been looking in preparation for his fight with Rampage?

SOKOUDJOU: He's been looking good. He's been beating people up every day!

muaythaifan: Any chance we might see you fight Fedor?

SOKOUDJOU: After my fight in Japan, we went to a Bodog show. My manager said Fedor is the guy standing between me and my dream car; a Benz CL600

SOKOUDJOU: I would love to fight him!

SOKOUDJOU: We are both unemployed so maybe we can fight for a job.

mikerg: Whats weaknesses do Fedor have in your opinion?

SOKOUDJOU: His stand-up sucks.

mosleyfan: What do you think about Liddell-Jardine being a PPV fight while Rampage-Henderson is free on Spike and in England no less? Do you think Dana is showing favoritism to a couple of fighters who just got knocked out?

SOKOUDJOU: Dan isnt really known in the US. It's better for Dan to be on free TV for exposure. You cant say UFC without saying Chuck, so it would be good for Dan to be on free TV.

SOKOUDJOU: It's good for Dan and Chuck is just so marketable.

thehype: good answer

SOKOUDJOU: Thanks.

skankpunch: Can you give us specific names u asked for in the ufc, and names the ufc wanted u to fight instead? who gets the better of each other in practice between matt lindland and dan henderson?

SOKOUDJOU: They're friends, but in the ring, they hate each other. I will just give one name. I asked to be on the card with Dan on free TV and I asked for Michael Bisbing and they basically asked me if I was on crack.

SOKOUDJOU: I dont want to name any names they offered me and start some shit.

thehype: obviously they weren't anyone you felt were elite

SOKOUDJOU: Exactly!

jaz: Where were you training before you hooked up with Dan and Team Quest?

SOKOUDJOU: I was doing my own thing. Everywhere, but nowhere. I hooked up with Dan in 2004. They told me I had potential, but I needed to work on my striking. All I knew was Judo.

SOKOUDJOU: I went to various gyms and learned other things and told them to give me an opponent.

teetoe: Do you ever see yourself fighting Dan Henderson some time down the road?

SOKOUDJOU: If they give me 10 million dollars and they want me to get my ass kicked. No, we would never fight. What's the point of it? We're from the same camp.

muaythaifan: in your opinion, who, besides yourself, do you think are the top five or so light heavyweights in the world?

SOKOUDJOU: I'm not really into rankings. To me, a ranking is when all of the guys fight each other in a tounament and prove who's #1, #2, #3 and so on. I respect every single fighter, but until we have the tounament, I won't say who's #1 or #2.

muaythaifan: and if the UFC offered you the fifth best light heavy, would you be willing to take that fight?

SOKOUDJOU: Who's that?

SOKOUDJOU: If they give me Shogun, I wouldnt care about the rest of them.

muaythaifan: I meant the fifth best in your opinion...but you kind of already answered

SOKOUDJOU: But who do you think is the 5th best?

muaythaifan: good question

muaythaifan: not sure who would be 5th best

muaythaifan: maybe Liddell or Ortiz or someone like that I guess

muaythaifan: but obviously the UFC isn't offering those guys

mikerg: Do you think Tito is overrated?

SOKOUDJOU: Tito has a good marketing plan behind him. I dont know if he's overrated. I never thought about it. Good question. I dont know?

SOKOUDJOU: I'll put it this way...when was the last time he finished a fight before Shamrock?

mosleyfan: Brandon Vera, who they just announced was returning to the UFC, has commented in the past that he'd be willing to move down in weight to fight Chuck Liddell. Do you think he'd be as willing to fight you?

SOKOUDJOU: We train together from time to time. We've had some good sessions together. This is a business and if you put enough money up, fuck it, we can train after the fight .

skankpunch: who do like in the couture v. gonzaga fight? I got u at number 5 in the world by the way behind shogun, henderson, ramapge, and chuck. Not to say u can't beat some of these guys they have just accomplished more up to this point.

SOKOUDJOU: Thats a tough fight for Randy. Gonzaga is a tough grappler. I'll say Randy, but he has a lot of work.

jaz: How would a Rampage-Sokoudjo fight play out?

SOKOUDJOU: I dont know. The only answer is for me to fight him. That's a tough one!

thehype: FightHype would like to thank Sokoudjou for taking time out of his busy schedule to chat with us tonight.

SOKOUDJOU: Be good FightHype and I'll chat with you guys again soon!




Posted by: BoneCrusher

Thanks for the effort you put into keeping this thread current ReproBro ... great work.



Posted by: ReproMan

Report: Randleman Arrested in Las Vegas

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Report: Randleman Arrested in Las Vegas Options: Email Article | Printer Friendly

Friday, August 17, 2007
by Sherdog.com Staff

Former UFC heavyweight champion Kevin Randleman (Pictures) was arrested on suspicion of driving under the influence near Las Vegas, Nevada, MMAWeekly.com reported on Thursday. Randleman, 36, was also booked on charges of malicious destruction of public property, intimidating a public officer and other driving offenses, the report stated.

"The Monster" was stripped of his license to compete in mixed martial arts by the Nevada State Athletic Commission on Feb. 16 after the light heavyweight provided a urine sample that was free of human hormones following his submission loss to Mauricio Rua (Pictures) at PRIDE 32. Speaking with Sherdog Radio Network's TJ De Santis and Josh Gross on Dec. 11, 2006, Randleman blamed the test, which the NSAC ruled to be fraudulent, on health-related issues.




Posted by: ReproMan

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Thanks for the effort you put into keeping this thread current ReproBro ... great work.
My pleasure.



Posted by: A Black Guy

Dan Henderson: Quest for the Belt. Episode 1

YouTube Video


Mayhem is supposed to be posting a new episode every Friday until the fight. Episode 2 should come out later today.



Posted by: PreMier

Date submitted: 17 August 2007
Author: Tom Parkes
--> Rumourmill: Fedor Emelianenko to Sign with Hero's - MMAUniverse.com

Rumors have been flying around the internet that Fedor Emelianenko has signed a contract for five fights with the Hero's organisation in Japan, worth an estimated $5,000,000 ($1,000,000 per fight).

Such a signing is indeed possible for Hero's, which is backed by the mighty K-1 organisation - the Worlds largest Mixed Martial Arts events organisers - yes bigger even than the UFC. K-1 typically get 40,000 - 50,000 live spectators at their largest events in Japan, and their events are screened live on terrestrial television to millions of loyal Japanese fans.

Hero's was introduced in 2005 and has become an immediate success story - already drawing crowds of 10,000 - 15,000 per event (putting it at the same level as the UFC in the USA, who's highest ever live attendance was 17,000, but typically draw 10,000 - 14,000 per event).

There has been a gap in the Japanese market for the past few months, since Pride was taken over by the UFC and all Pride events stopped in Japan. Hero's has been quick to step in and fill this void and is currently signing top International A-Class fighters such as Alistair Overeem, and it seems reasonable to assume that Hero's realise the drawing power of having Fedor on their event and such a move would immediately raise their stake in the International MMA market.

The UFC have previously been in talks with Fedor, but were unable to come to an agreement, for reasons that neither party were overtly eager to disclose. After several months, it seems that maybe a UFC deal is not on the cards.

Nothing has been confirmed by either Hero's or Fedor Emelianenko's management as of yet, but it seems highly likely that this is a rumour which could be very well founded. Keep your eyes peeled.



Posted by: ReproMan

UFC® : Ultimate Fighting Championship®

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08/17/2007
UFC Inks Wanderlei Silva; Brazilian Legend set for December Return


It’s been a deal years in the making, but finally, one of mixed martial arts’ unquestioned greats – former PRIDE Champion Wanderlei Silva - will be returning to the Ultimate Fighting Championship’s Octagon this December for the first time in over seven years to take on the best 205-pound fighters in the world.


“Many fighters have a dream of fighting for the UFC, and as a champion for six years in Japan, my dream has always been to have the UFC belt,” said Silva. “Today, I’m one step closer to this goal.”




“As crazy as this sounds, this is the pinnacle of my seven year career in this company,” said UFC President Dana White. “I’m so excited to have this guy under contract. He grabbed my arm and looked me in the eyes like one of his pre-fight staredowns and he said ‘I’m gonna fight so good for you, you’re gonna see the best fights ever from Wanderlei Silva.’”

The signing of Silva, which took place in the Zuffa offices in Las Vegas Friday afternoon, is the culmination of years of pursuit and hard work by White, who weathered a series of ups and downs to get the Brazilian bomber in the UFC, where potential matchups with the likes of former UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Chuck Liddell await.


The 31-year old Silva, known by fight fans as “The Axe Murderer” for his ultra-aggressive style and finishing ability, began his career almost 11 years ago in his native Brazil, fighting in Vale Tudo bouts that pushed him to the
limit as he honed the skills that would soon make him one of the most feared fighters on the planet.

In 1998, Silva would make his UFC debut against Vitor Belfort, and he would fight two more times in the Octagon (including a 2000 bout against Tito Ortiz).


But it was in the PRIDE organization that the legend of Silva was truly born, and after his debut in 1999, he met great success by winning the organization’s middleweight championship and defeating the likes of current UFC Light Heavyweight Champion Quinton Jackson (twice), Dan Henderson, Kazushi Sakuraba (three times), Ricardo Arona, Hidehiko Yoshida, and Kazuyuki Fujita, while engaging in some of the most memorable fights in MMA history.


“This guy is a real fighter,” said White. “He reminds me of Chuck Liddell, and he’s the kind of fighter that all fight fans love to see fight. He’s a gunslinger. He will get in harm’s way to inflict damage and pain. This guy comes out like a speeding train and never stops. He goes for the finish, he likes to knock people out, and I just think he’s going to bring so much excitement to the UFC, I feel like I’m going to jump out of my skin.”


Well-rested after his February PRIDE fight against Dan Henderson, Silva (31-7-1) now looks forward to the next chapter in his career in the UFC.
“I’m gonna work hard to give a great show for the fans and I want to thank God for this opportunity,” said Silva, who counts the key elements of his style as raw aggression, emotion, and intensity.

He also wants to send a message to prospective foes.

“I want to issue a warning to the other fighters out there: you need to train hard, because “The Axe Murderer” is here.”
A date and opponent for Silva’s return will be announced at a later date.




Posted by: ReproMan

EliteXC Announces Hawaii Co-Promotion

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HONOLULU, Aug. 16 -- New mixed martial arts heavyweight promoter EliteXC gathered with perennial top Hawaiian promoters -- and long time rivals -- Rumble on the Rock and ICON Sport at the Blaisdell Center Thursday to confirm rumors and officially announce their partnership, which will manifest on a co-promoted event broadcast live from Hawaii on the premium cable channel Showtime.

"It really is a major step," said Director of Live Events for EliteXC Gary Shaw with ICON promoter T. Jay Thompson seated to his right and ROTR's J.D. Penn on his left.

Dubbed "Uprising," the first collaboration between the promoters takes place Sept. 15 at Honolulu's Blaisdell Arena and features an 11-fight card headlined by an EliteXC middleweight championship bout pitting ICON 185-pound ace Robbie Lawler (Pictures) against newly crowned EliteXC champ Murilo "Ninja" Rua.

The event also marks the return of Nick Diaz (Pictures) since his submission victory over Takanori Gomi (Pictures) was erased from the record books after being suspended for marijuana last February. The volatile Californian faces B.J. Penn (Pictures)-trained Mike Aina (Pictures).

"September 15 will be the biggest MMA event Hawaii has ever seen," said Thompson, however the longtime Hawaii promoter predicted "it won't be the biggest MMA event Hawaii will see in the future."

Additional Showtime-televised fights include Joey Villasenor (Pictures) versus Riki Fukuda (Pictures), Jake Shields (Pictures) against Renato Verissimo (Pictures), and Gina Carano (Pictures) facing Tonya Evinger (Pictures).

"Coming to Hawaii was important to EliteXC," said Shaw. "As I said before, I believe this is really the home of mixed martial arts."

When asked about future Hawaiian events for EliteXC, Shaw showed interest in promoting other big shows on the islands, and also mentioned the possibility of bringing the ShoXC series to the Aloha State.

"Next year we'll be back," Shaw said of promoting in Hawaii. "We won't be back in '07, but I guarantee to you … we'll be back here in '08."

Preliminary bouts available at ProElite.com:
Jae Sok Lim vs. Brandon Wolff (Pictures)e
Kala Kolohe Hose (Pictures) vs. Jeff Cox
Mark Oshiro vs. Nui Wheeler
Mark Kurano vs. Jose Diaz
Justin Buchholz vs. Kolo Koka (Pictures)
Tyson Nam vs. Albert Manners




Posted by: ReproMan

MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More

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- ROGER HUERTA READY FOR ANOTHER WAR
Saturday, August 18, 2007 - by Damon Martin - MMAWeekly.com




Roger Huerta, now 4-0 in the UFC, will make his return to the Octagon on August 25th when he takes on Alberto Gonzalez Crane. He stopped by MMAWeekly Radio recently to talk about the fight and his career of late.

Since gracing the cover of Sports Illustrated a few months ago, Roger Huerta has become one of the most popular fighters in the sport, but the Texas native doesn’t let the hype get to him too much.

“I try not to think about it,” said Huerta about his newfound fame. “I’m a fighter first and foremost. People are like ‘you’re an awesome fighter, you’re a great fighter’ and it’s awesome because I hope I am. I come in there and I try to bang and put on a good show.”

His upcoming bout will be a showdown with Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu expert and former King of the Cage lightweight champion, Alberto Gonzalez Crane.

Huerta admits that Crane is a dangerous opponent harnessing one of the best ground games in the lightweight division.

“I’d be stupid to say I’m going to go on the ground with a black belt in jiu-jitsu guy like that,” Huerta stated about his opponent. “This is MMA, it’s mixed martial arts, so I’m going to go in there and do what MMA is about which is to bang. If it goes to the ground, it goes to the ground. If it’s standing, it’s standing. So basically it’s wherever the fight takes, I’ll go and that’s where we’ll end up.”

In this fight, Crane will be returning to action for the first time in over 2 years and ring rust as well as cardio could play a major factor in the bout.

“It could definitely be a factor, especially with me, I’m really conditioned,” said Huerta “One of my biggest assets is that you fight me, you better be ready to go forever. I’m not going to gas. I’ve got gas in the tank and I’m ready to go for a long time. To my opponents and to Alberto, I hope he’s well conditioned.”

A student of Dave Menne, Huerta has fought a variety of fighters with varying styles in his fights this year, but his training regimen stays the same.

“I train the same basically for every opponent,” stated Huerta. “Basically with that said, is just going 100 miles an hour. I just come in there to bang and to fight. I’m a fighter and that’s what I do.”

With his growing popularity and tremendous skill, the question always comes up for Huerta. When does he want a shot at the title?

“I’ll be ready whenever,” said a confident Huerta. “It just depends when Dana White, Joe Silva and my manager Monte (Cox) decide. Whenever, whatever those guys think. Whenever they think it’s the time for me to go for that.”

The bout with Crane will be the fourth this year for Huerta, but he feels he would like another turn in the Octagon before 2007 expires.

“To me, I believe there should be one more fight in me before the year ends.”

With UFC 74 just a week away, Huerta seems confident going into his fight with Alberto Crane and wants to make a statement following his previous fight with Doug Evans.

“You guys will be in for an awakening,” said Huerta about the upcoming fight. “I’m quite awakened after my last fight when I fought Doug (Evans). I got two weeks notice and a week and three days of training really at the same time so much was on my mind and I was just so flat in that first round. I have a lot to prove again. I’m hungry, I feel like I need to go in there and put on a good show again.”

Huerta will get his chance when he faces Alberto Crane on August 25th in Las Vegas on the main card of UFC 74.




Posted by: bigss75

They are really hyping Huerta lately. He's good but his level of competition is no where near the top of the lightweight division.

I can't believe their having that punching bag Chris Leben still fight in the UFC



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by bigss75 View Post
They are really hyping Huerta lately. He's good but his level of competition is no where near the top of the lightweight division.

I can't believe their having that punching bag Chris Leben still fight in the UFC
Good news is Terry Martin should kick his ass from here to next week. Rowdy little bastard that Martin, Leben has nothing for him.



Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by bigss75 View Post
They are really hyping Huerta lately. He's good but his level of competition is no where near the top of the lightweight division.

I can't believe their having that punching bag Chris Leben still fight in the UFC
True story, I want to see him fight some bigger names.



Posted by: ReproMan

Great news for GSP Fans!!


Report: Georges St. Pierre an Official Part of Team Jackson



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Posted by UFC Junkie on August 20, 2007 at 12:08 pm ET


Former UFC welterweight champion Georges St. Pierre, who is set to face Josh Koscheck this Saturday in one of UFC 74’s marquee matches, has become an official part of Greg Jackson’s camp in Albuequerque, N.M.


The news comes from this week’s “The Great Fight North” column at The Fight Network.


St. Pierre, who lost his belt to Matt Serra via first-round TKO at UFC 69, recently parted ways with his previous manager, TKO Major League MMA promoter Stephane Patry. St. Pierre said he got a new manager, in part, because of disagreements over his training.

According to the column:
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Highly regarded New Mexico coach Greg Jackson says he and his fighters expect to log a lot of air miles to Montreal in the coming months, with the recent addition of Quebec native Georges St. Pierre to his stable. St. Pierre recently dropped his trainer, ex-Soviet Special Forces sniper Victor Vargotsky, in favor of the Albuquerque-based Jackson, who mentors fighters like Rashad Evans, Nate Marquardt and Keith Jardine. St. Pierre hosted the trio for a two-week training camp at his home in Candiac. St. Pierre… feels he made the best decision to help himself evolve as a fighter.
“It’s absolutely great, and I think I am blessed because I am lucky to be able to train with such a great group of guys and under Greg Jackson, who is the best MMA coach in my book,” St. Pierre says. “People say you’re only as good as your training partners, and I believe that is the truth.“
St. Pierre began training with Jackson prior to his loss to Serra. Unfortunately, he was one of many of the team’s fighters to experience some tough luck.


By the end of 2006, the camp was among the most successful in mixed-martial arts. However, the team has since suffered losses by Joey Villasenor (vs. Murilo Ruo at Strikeforce: Shamrock vs. Baroni), Jardine (vs. Houston Alexander at UFC 71) and Marquardt (vs. Anderson Silva at UFC 73). Evans was unable to secure a win at UFC 73 and instead fought Tito Ortiz to a disappointing draw, and Diego Sanchez (who lost a unanimous decision to Josh Koscheck at UFC 69) has since left the camp.


Still, Team Jackson remains one of MMA’s most notable camps, and without world-class training, none of those fighters would have been in a position to fight in those marquee fights to begin with.




Posted by: BoneCrusher

I'm hugely glad he made this move mentally, but in IMHO Jackson is over rated. GSP needs a top shelf coach like Bas or MILETICH for schooling on his ground game not a mid level trainer like Jackson.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Fedor Tops Sherdog.com Pound-For-Pound




August 20, 2007

For the past century the baddest man on the planet was widely regarded to be boxing's heavyweight champion. That perception has changed rapidly in recent years with the growth of mixed martial arts and an influx of young talent into the sport. Who is the best mixed martial artist -- and by extension the top fighter in the world -- today? Sherdog.com attempts to answer that, and lists nine others who could own the distinction in short order.

1) Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures) (26-1-0, 1 NC)
The creation of a pound-for-pound list can be directly traced back to the desire of determining the best fighter regardless of weight. So it is Mastro's Steakhouse-rare when a list is topped by a heavyweight. But such is the greatness of Russian Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures). A complete fighter, Fedor is known for his brilliance in the ring, where he often appears so relaxed it's like he just woke from a Sunday afternoon nap. Fedor, currently weighing contract offers, mixes a vicious ground-striking game with an active submission regimen along with the kind of high-elevation takedowns that only the most dynamic fighters possess. Having stood and gone to the floor with the best in both areas, most pundits regard Emelianenko, the current PRIDE heavyweight champion, to be the finest fighter on the planet.

2) Mauricio Rua (Pictures) (16-2-0)
A staple of any pound-for-pound list, and rightfully so, Shogun's ledger is a hit list of some of 2005's finest. His epic run through 2005's PRIDE 205-pound Grand Prix saw him ice now-UFC kingpin Quinton Jackson (Pictures), Antonio Rogerio Nogueira (Pictures), Alistair Overeem (Pictures), and Ricardo Arona (Pictures), in what may be the best 12-month run any MMA fighter has ever put together. Recent wins over respectable opponents such as Kazuhiro Nakamura (Pictures), and another W over Overeem, only serve to solidify the 25-year-old's sterling hit list, which may be due for some fresh additions as he heads to the octagon.

3) Gilbert Melendez (Pictures) (12-0-0)
You won't find "El Niño" on many people's pound-for-pound lists, let alone third. The question is simple: Why not? Melendez is perhaps the only fighter you could name other than B.J. Penn (Pictures), who after achieving top three status in one division, jumped up a weight class to achieve the same stature in another. Melendez's wins over the likes of Hiroyuki Takaya (Pictures) and Rumina Sato (Pictures) saw him emerge as a preeminent featherweight, but he was forced to move up in weight when then-Shooto world champion Alexandre Franca Nogueira (Pictures) did everything in his power to avoid fighting him. At 155, Melendez cemented himself as one of the division's best, emerging victorious in his slugfest with Tatsuya Kawajiri (Pictures) on New Year's Eve. While Melendez may not be the "third best fighter in the world," his resume boasts two divisions of top three credibility, which cannot be balked at.

4) Dan Henderson (Pictures) (22-5-0)
The proverbial snapshot adjacent to the definition would feature Henderson wearing 4-ounce gloves. Fighting from heavyweight to 185 pounds, Henderson is the only man to hold major titles in separate weight divisions at the same time, owning both the PRIDE 205 and 185-pound straps -- and the No. 3 spot at both light heavyweight and middleweight in the Sherdog.com divisional rankings. There are few if any fighters with as an impressive list of opponents, many of which are heavier than the former U.S. Olympic wrestler. A February knockout over Wanderlei Silva (Pictures) helped to diminish the negative impact of Henderson's uninspired 2006 decision loss to Kazuo Misaki (Pictures) at 183 pounds in Japan last year. But no matter, Hendo is a great mixed martial artist and has never failed to fight -- and in many cases defeat -- the best when given the chance.

5) Anderson Silva (19-4-0)
Had Silva not illegally up-kicked Japan's Yushin Okami (Pictures), Silva may very well be 22-3. However the Brazilian Muay Thai sniper had to settle for taking the loss and the eventual UFC middleweight title around his waist. Silva captured the title by demolishing Rich Franklin (Pictures) last October. Recently, Silva side-swiped Nathan Marquardt (Pictures) to hold on to the 185-pound belt. Silva's lanky frame and dangerous striking skills make him a tough night for anyone. Add to that an increased awareness in the cage, as well as improving takedown defense, and it's quite possible Silva won't lose in the UFC middleweight division for several years, especially if he can get post Franklin again, this time in the former champ's hometown of Cincinnati, Ohio.

6) Quinton Jackson (Pictures) (27-6-0)
On the strength of his early knockout against Chuck Liddell (Pictures) in May, "Rampage" Jackson comes in on the cusp of a Top 5 ranking. It's taken some time for Jackson to appear recovered -- both physically and mentally -- from the beatings he endured against Wanderlei Silva (Pictures) and Mauricio Rua (Pictures), but on the eve of his Sept. 8 title defense against PRIDE king Dan Henderson (Pictures) the UFC champion looks as strong as ever. It's really his strength that separates "Rampage" from many fighters at his weight; the gifted Memphis, Tennessean has picked up and slammed a great many opponents, and has harnessed his punching power while learning how to strike in the gym.

7) Takanori Gomi (Pictures) (27-3-0)
The talk of where post-PRIDE Gomi will end up continues to be a major MMA topic, and with good reason: the 28-year-old PRIDE champion is still arguably the best lightweight in the world after seven years in the rarified air of the division. While his spot on the list may have been saved by the bogus technicalities that beautified his record after his wild and woolly loss to Nick Diaz (Pictures), rules are rules -- however silly -- and we must play by them. Besides, in the last two years alone, "The Fireball Kid" has taken home wins over the likes of Tatsuya Kawajiri (Pictures), Hayato Sakurai (Pictures), Marcus Aurelio (Marcus Aurelio' class='LinkSilver'>Pictures) and Mitsuhiro Ishida (Pictures), which is pretty tough to argue with.

8) Shinya Aoki (Pictures) (11-2-0)
Multidivisional success is a huge achievement in MMA, where weight classes aren't a cute four pounds apart. Yet, the 24-year-old Shooto world champion has managed stalwart wins in two weight classes, having knocked off perennial Top 10ers Joachim Hansen (Pictures) and Akira Kikuchi (Pictures) at lightweight and welterweight. While the "Tobikan Judan" doesn't quite fulfill the criteria of dominance expected of pound-for-pound list, he is still one of the few fighters in MMA who deserves to be ranked in two weight classes, which earns him his spot here.

9) Sean Sherk (Pictures) (32-2-1)
However tarnished the UFC titlist may emerge from his ongoing steroid saga doesn't change the fact that, at least for now, he is a winner. A longtime standout welterweight, Sherk punctuated his career at 170 pounds with a win over Nick Diaz (Pictures) before moving down in weight and knocking off Kenny Florian (Pictures) and Hermes Franca (Pictures). Though solid enough to entrench him as a top lightweight, his wins at 155 are not overly outstanding in a pound-for-pound fashion, which is why "The Muscle Shark" takes a dip on this list below other double division standouts.

10) Norifumi Yamamoto (Pictures) (15-1-0, 1 NC)
As these types of lists go there is always a necessary subjectivity that's used to bind the thing together. You can argue that "Kid" Yamamoto doesn't have the wins to make the list -- though he has fought 10 pounds above his natural weight division of 145 for several years. But you can't argue against the explosive fighter's dynamic skills and fighting style, both of which have some suggesting "Kid" needs to have the zero removed from this ranking. Yamamoto is the face of K-1 HERO'S and if he fought regularly against 145-pound competitors, it wouldn't take long before he was regarded the best in the world at that weight.




Posted by: fufu

I thought that list was pretty accurate, but my friend made a good point about it - Sherk but no Hughes?



Posted by: ReproMan

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I thought that list was pretty accurate, but my friend made a good point about it - Sherk but no Hughes?
I don't like the list at all really. Where's BJ Penn? He beat Gomi fair and square. How about GSP? He beat Sherk, BJ, and Hughes. Gilbert Melendez is good, but I don't think he belongs on that list at all. I don't know how Sherk got there either. Weird list.



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Crimson Tide: EliteXC parent company posts considerable loss


By Jesse Holland

Not since the formation of the Nortenos has anyone in California seen this much red.
Once considered a viable threat to the UFC programming empire, EliteXC (operating under its parent company ProElite) has posted a net loss of 11.9 million dollars over a six-month period starting from January 1st and ending June 30th of 2007.
Operating in the loss column is not unusual for a start-up company, but ProElite’s revenue was a disappointing 2.2 million dollars during that same time period.
Anyone confident in the relationship with Showtime Networks as it pertains to financial rescue should also be aware that Showtime isn’t required to pay any licensing fees until 2008.
John Donne once said that no man is an island, yet I can’t help but wonder if Gary Shaw is feeling a little like Chuck Noland.
In addition, SEC Form 10QSB of ProElite’s quarterly report is surprisingly grim. Particularly its outlook for the next twelve months:
Our cash and cash equivalents are expected to be sufficient to execute the next 18 months of our three year business plan. As such, we continue to seek additional financing. If we are unable to raise sufficient additional financing, our growth may be limited. There can be no assurances that we will be able to raise sufficient financing on favorable terms and conditions. Management believes that we currently have sufficient cash and cash equivalents to finance our current operations for the next twelve months.
EliteXC is not dead yet. They have experience in Gary Shaw, a marquee name in Frank Shamrock, and a juggernaut of a producer in Mark Burnett.
What they don’t have is a pay-per-view (PPV) that can make you stand up and cheer. And they need one in a hurry. I know it’s easier said than done, but after this financial report it’s pretty obvious that time is of the essence.
Yet with such a limited number of fighters on the free market and a couple of missed opportunities (Vera, Sokoudjou), I’m not sure if it’s possible for EliteXC to pull it off.
I believe that competition breeds success, so I’ll keep ordering their PPV’s in the hopes that they can.
I’m sure some UFC fighters of past and present will be doing likewise.
It will totally suck if they crash and burn. The UFC needs some kind of competition to keep Dana White in check.



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[8/21/2007] Pulver’s WEC Debut on Hold

The highly-anticipated World Extreme Cagefighting arrival of former UFC lightweight champion Jens Pulver (21-8-1) has been indefinitely put on hold, sources close to the Miletich champ told Sherdog.com Monday evening, due to a knee injury suffered by the popular fighter last Friday.

Pulver was scheduled to face promising prospect Cub Swanson (11-1-0) on Sept. 5 at the Hard Rock Hotel & Casino in Las Vegas. It would have been Pulver's first fight in the 145-pound featherweight division, a class much more suited to the Iowan, who dropped his last outing to B.J. Penn in June.

According to the source, an MRI is scheduled for later this week. Those results will determine whether Pulver will face surgery or physical therapy.




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Nuff said.



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^ cool, Dan Henderson is the man!



Posted by: ReproMan

MMA WEEKLY - Your #1 Source for Daily MMA News, Interviews, Multimedia, and More

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- MMAWEEKLY WORLD MMA RANKINGS UPDATED

Wednesday, August 22, 2007 - MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings




The latest MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings were released on Wednesday, August 22. This system ranks the top ten MMA fighters from all across the world in each of the six largest weight classes, as voted on by MMAWeekly.
We take into consideration a fighter's performance in addition to his win-loss record, head-to-head and common opponents, difficulty of opponents, and numerous other factors in what is the most comprehensive rankings system in the sport.
As always, fighters who are currently serving drug-related suspensions are not eligible for top ten consideration.
Here are the current MMAWeekly World MMA Rankings, which are up-to-date as of August 22.


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HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (over 205 pounds)
#1 Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Fedor Emelianenko
2. Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira
3. Mirko Cro Cop
4. Josh Barnett
5. Randy Couture
6. Gabriel Gonzaga
7. Tim Sylvia
8. Andrei Arlovski
9. Fabricio Werdum
10. Aleksander Emelianenko


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LIGHT HEAVYWEIGHT DIVISION (205-pound limit)
#1 Light Heavyweight Fighter in the World: Mauricio "Shogun" Rua
2. Quinton Jackson
3. Chuck Liddell
4. Dan Henderson
5. Wanderlei Silva
6. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou
7. Ricardo Arona
8. Antonio Rogerio Nogueira
9. Tito Ortiz
10. Kazuhiro Nakamura


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MIDDLEWEIGHT DIVISION (185-pound limit)
#1 Middleweight Fighter in the World: Anderson Silva
2. Paulo Filho
3. Matt Lindland
4. Rich Franklin
5. Dan Henderson
6. Denis Kang
7. Nathan Marquardt
8. Robbie Lawler
9. Kazuo Misaki
10. Frank Trigg


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WELTERWEIGHT DIVISION (170-pound limit)
#1 Welterweight Fighter in the World: Matt Serra
2. Georges St. Pierre
3. Matt Hughes
4. Josh Koscheck
5. Karo Parisyan
6. Diego Sanchez
7. Jon Fitch
8. Jake Shields
9. Carlos Condit
10. Akira Kikuchi


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LIGHTWEIGHT DIVISION (160-pound limit)
#1 Lightweight Fighter in the World: Takanori Gomi
2. Hayato Sakurai
3. Gilbert Melendez
4. Tatsuya Kawajiri
5. Shinya Aoki
6. Vitor "Shaolin" Ribeiro
7. Joachim Hansen
8. Mitsuhiro Ishida
9. Norifumi "Kid" Yamamoto
10. Joe Stevenson


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FEATHERWEIGHT DIVISION (145 pounds and under)
#1 Featherweight Fighter in the World: Akitoshi Tamura
2. "Lion" Takeshi Inoue
3. Antonio Carvalho
4. Hatsu Hioki
5. Urijah Faber
6. Masakazu Imanari
7. Jeff Curran
8. Yoshiro Maeda
9. Tenkei Fujimiya
10. Daiki "DJ" Hata




Posted by: BoneCrusher

For MMA weekly to put Franklin ahead of Hendo is fuggin ridiculous.



Posted by: ReproMan

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For MMA weekly to put Franklin ahead of Hendo is fuggin ridiculous.
Kang would wipe the floor with him too.



Posted by: ReproMan

Sports: FIGHT BLOG: Rampage, Henderson media days | rampage, henderson, training, fight, ufc - OCRegister.com

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Tuesday, August 21, 2007
FIGHT BLOG: Rampage, Henderson media days

The two champs prepare for their unification fight at UFC 75 on Sept. 8

By CARLOS ARIAS
The Orange County Register


RAMPAGE MEDIA DAY


BIG BEAR CITY - I got a chance to visit Quinton "Rampage" Jackson's training camp in Big Bear on Monday morning.


I had to get up the mountain to check out the UFC light-heavyweight champion before he heads across the pond for his unification fight against PRIDE champion Dan Henderson on Sept. 8 at UFC 75 in England.
Rampage's training session was supposed to start at 12:30 p.m. It was 11:45 a.m. and I was stuck on the 10 freeway, and it wasn't moving. I'm not talking barely moving, I mean, NOT moving.


I called UFC publicist Rachel Trontel, who was bringing a van-load of media members from L.A. They were stuck in the same traffic, and they were behind me, so there was no way any of us were going to make it up the mountain by 12:30 p.m.


We arrived at Rampage's training camp an hour late. He was already done training for the day. He had started earlier in the morning, so we would have missed his workout even if we made it on time.


Rampage and his trainer, Juanito Ibarra, were eager to get off the mountain. They were leaving for England on Tuesday. Rampage wanted to see his kids before heading to the U.K. for his final two weeks of training.
Rampage was very laid back, calm and playful with interviewers as usual.
A CBS camera crew wanted Rampage to cut a promo for their channel, and Rampage said he needed to get paid for any promos. The CBS guy is speechless, not realizing that Rampage was kidding.


During my interview with Rampage he said his training has been going great. He has been training just as hard as before he won the title. He said some of Henderson's guys have been trying to spy on his training sessions.


TUF 3 winner Michael Bisping, Cheick Kongo and Brandon Vera were among those he has been training and sparring with. He also revealed he spent a couple of weeks in Las Vegas training with UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture, who used to be teammates with Henderson at Team Quest. I wonder what Henderson thinks about his old pal helping out Rampage. I'll ask Henderson about that on Tuesday when I visit his training camp.


I asked Juanito about the recent additions of Wanderlei Silva and Mauricio "Shogun" Rua to the UFC. Silva beat Rampage twice and Rua also holds a victory over him. Those fights were held in the PRIDE ring in Japan. Juanito said he believes Silva and Rua had "extra help" when they fought Rampage. He didn't spell out exactly what that extra help was. But our conversation quickly turned to the fact there was no athletic commission or steroid testing when they fought in Japan. Juanito said the outcome will be much different when they meet in the U.S.


Juanito said he won't allow any of his fighters to use supplements, creatine or any other concoctions even if they are sold over the counter. He wants his fighters to be clean. If anybody brings any strange supplements into his camp, he said he will kick them off the mountain. He even monitors everything they eat.


Juanito said he wants Rampage to take a six-month break after the Henderson fight, which will be his third fight of the year. Juanito said he is shopping a Rampage reality show, which is being bid on by MTV, Spike and A&E. Rampage also is getting offers for role sin movies.


Bisping said he forged a friendship with Rampage after hanging out and "sharing some pints" together in England after UFC events earlier this year. Bisping expressed an interest in training with Juanito and Rampage and that's how they got together.


Juanito said Bisping is destined to be a UFC champion. He hinted that Bisping might be moving out of the 205-pound weight class in the future. Bisping confirmed he believes he can make the 185-pound limit. Bisping's dynamic striking and the added strength he would have at a lower weight class would make him a serious force, as if he weren't a force already.


Bisping said he has a nine-fight contract with the UFC and he wants to take his time moving up the ladder and improving with each fight.


Bisping faces his TUF 3 rival Matt Hammil on the Rampage-Henderson undercard at UFC 75. It's some unfinished business he has to take care of. Bisping said he always felt slighted by Tito Ortiz, his coach on TUF 3, because Ortiz took Hammil under his wing. Bisping said Hammil is a one-dimensional wrestler and he plans to expose him at UFC 75.


Juanito said Kongo's ground skills are much improved considering he had "no ground skills whatsoever" when they started working together. Juanito said don't be surprised if Kongo upsets Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic at UFC 75.


Four-time world champion Sugar Shane Mosley stopped by Rampage's camp. Shane and Rampage have become friends in recent years. Shane said he finds MMA very exciting, especially Rampage's fights. I bring up Shane's Nov. 10 fight against Miguel Cotto at MSG. Shane starts salivating. "He's tailormade for me," Shane said about facing Cotto.


Those of us that were hoping to get some video of Rampage in action were disappointed that we missed his training session. I plead my case with Rampage and he agrees to do some shadowboxing in the cage for us.
Rampage is off to England. He will spend the final two weeks training at Bisping's camp, the Wolfslair. That will give him plenty of time to get acclimated to the time change and the conditions overseas.


HENDO MEDIA DAY

MURRIETA - No traffic problems on Tuesday on the way to media day with Dan Henderson at Team Quest in Murrieta.


Henderson is one of the kindest people I have met in the fight game. He is a down to earth family man that happens to be one of the toughest fighters in MMA.


This is a stressful time for the Henderson family. Henderson's wife, Alison, is pregnant with their third child. She is due to have a c-section next week, then Henderson will leave for England a day later on Sept. 3. The Henderson's moved Alison's c-section up a week, so Dan could be there for his wife.


Henderson said he had asked for the fight to be held in November or even the Sept. 22 date at the Honda Center, but he said UFC president Dana White insisted the fight would have to be on Sept. 8.


Henderson is the consumate professional, so he is dealing with the situation. Alison said she wished she could give her husband more attention and support like she has for his past fights.


I notice a blood-stained canvas hanging on the wall of the Team Quest gym. It's from PRIDE: Shockwave 2005 when Henderson beat Murilo Bustamante in the PRIDE 183-pound Grand Prix finals. "That's some of my blood on that canvas," Henderson said. He said he also has the canvas from PRIDE 33 when he defeated Wanderlei Silva. Now, that's what I call a piece of memorabilia.


Henderson said he expects a standup battle when he faces Rampage. He doesn't believe Rampage's size will be a factor because he has usually been the smaller fighter in most of his fights.


I told Henderson that Rampage spent a few weeks training with Couture. "I guess you find out who your real friends are," Henderson said.


I asked Henderson about Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou, a Team Quest fighter who has stormed onto the MMA scene with first-round KOs over Ricardo Arona and Antonio Rogerio Nogueira this year. Henderson said Sokoudjou will probably end up on the K-1 HERO'S card in September.


I asked Henderson about his kids, Reese, 6, and Sierra, 8. He said Reese started wrestling last summer and he's doing pretty well. I'm guessing that kid came out of the womb scoring takedowns. Dan said Sierra also is an athlete, but she will probably end up in track and field because of her speed.


Henderson finished off media day with some light work on the mits for the cameras. He looked sharp as he rattled off combinations.


One photographer asked Henderson what the big tractor tire, which weighs between 500-600 pounds, in the middle of the gym is for. Henderson said he lifts the tire and topples it all the way across the room during circuit training. Then he proceeds to demonstrate how he does it. This is one bad dude.


After checking out both training camps, I am convinced Jackson-Henderson will be an extremely exciting fight. I believe Jackson has the edge because of his size and strength. Henderson's overhand right is vicious and could end the fight at any time. I'm leaning towards Rampage. One thing is for sure, this fight probably won't go the distance the way these guys bang.


Keep punching,
Los




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Dana White: If Found Guilty, Sean Sherk Will Be Stripped of Title -- UFC news at UFCjunkie.com

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Dana White: If Found Guilty, Sean Sherk Will Be Stripped of Title

Posted by UFC Junkie on August 24, 2007 at 2:45 am ET
If Sean Sherk’s appeal of a failed UFC 73 drug test is denied by the California State Athletic Commission, UFC President Dana White says he will strip the UFC lightweight champion of his belt.


White made the comments during a UFC 74 press conference in Las Vegas yesterday afternoon.
Sherk defeated Hermes Franca via unanimous decision at UFC 73, which took place July 7 at ARCO Arena in Sacramento, Calif. However, after the championship bout, both fighters tested positive for anabolic steroids and were promptly fined $2,500 and suspended one year by the CSAC.
Sherk tested positive for elevated testosterone levels and nandrolone, an anabolic steroid.


Sherk maintains his innocence, and in a statement he released after the failed test, said he was investigating possible causes of the failed test with his attorney.


A source close to Sherk recently told UFCjunkie.com (UFC news, MMA news, UFC rumors, UFC gossip, fighter interviews and event previews and recaps - UFCjunkie.com) that the fighter’s legal team is testing a variety of supplements the fighter consumed during his training for UFC 73. According to the source, Sherk’s team hopes it can point to one of the over-the-counter supplements as the reason he unknowingly ingested a banned substance.


Sherk has retained Los Angeles attorney Howard Jacobs, who’s represented some of the sporting world’s biggest names in doping cases.
His appeal will be held in October.


Sherk (32-2-1 MMA, 6-2 UFC) won the vacant lightweight title by defeating Kenny Florian at UFC 64 in October 2006. His fight with Franca was his first title defense.
Duh?



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Kang would wipe the floor with him too.
It is probably based on the fact that Hendo hasn't fought in that weight class in forever.



Posted by: AKIRA

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Looks like Lil Eric like a motherfucker.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Looks like Lil Eric like a motherfucker.
Who is Lil Eric?



Posted by: AKIRA

Fridays bartender.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Fridays bartender.
Ah yeah, Lil bit.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Understanding fight odds in Vegas and why I gamble.

What the numbers you're about to see mean is if there's a minus sign then the amount following is how much you need to bet to win $100.

If you see a plus sign then that's how much you WIN if you bet $100. SO on Conzaga you need to bet $130 to win an even $100 meaning you'd walk away from that bet with a total of $230
$130 stake + $100 winnings = $230

On Randy it's even money.

Now is where it gets interesting ... look at GSP vs Kos. I want GSP to win. I like GSP and think he will win, but look at those numbers and ... if you're a real MMA fan ... think of how Kos fights. On GSP I'd need to bet $250 to win $100 ... not worth it. However with Kos $100 gets me $190 ..... Kos has a serious shot at beating GSP because of his style match-up. I want GSP to win, but I gotta put my money on Kos. A $500 bet wins me $950 (plus my $500 stake turning $500 into $1450) and gives me a real mindfuck for the fight "Fucking hit 'em GSP ... get up and take him down Kos you pussy" and so on.

So then the trick for me to get a real buzz without losing the farm is not to bet sooo much that I'd go bankrupt, yet enough that if I lose it all I eat macaroni -n- cheese for a month. Ohh yeah and I have to spend the money on completely frivolous things. I have a bass boat and like to upgrade it or buy high dollar tackle. The feeling I get as I walk into Cabalas with my winnings and buy the best trolling motor money can buy with my winnings lasts for days.

Drugs cannot give me the buzz I get in those kinds of fights. I normally only bet on MMA now ... although a night of Texas hold 'em is still a rare event I treasure but only from my winnings on an MMA event .

So here are the numbers on the fight tonight. These numbers will change at fight time ... sometimes drastically.

Aug-25
11:00:00 PM
GABRIEL GONZAGA -130
RANDY COUTURE - EV

Aug-25
10:30:00 PM
JOSH KOSCHECK +190
GEORGE ST PIERRE -250

Aug-25
10:00:00 PM
KURT PELLEGRINO +220
JOE STEVENSON -300

Aug-25
9:00:00 PM
FRANK MIR -175
ANTONI HARDONK+135

Aug-25
9:00:00 PM
KENDALL GROVE -250
PATRICK COTE +190

Aug-25
9:00:00 PM
ROGER HUERTA -535
ALBERTO CRANE +285

Aug-25
9:00:00 PM
RENATO BABALU SOBRAL -245
DAVID HEATH +185

Aug-25
9:00:00 PM 7015
7016 CLAY GUIDA
MARCUS AURELIO -135
+105

Aug-25
9:00:00 PM
RYAN JENSEN +240
THALES LEITES -320



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
Understanding fight odds in Vegas and why I gamble.

What the numbers you're about to see mean is if there's a minus sign then the amount following is how much you need to bet to win $100.

If you see a plus sign then that's how much you WIN if you bet $100. SO on Conzaga you need to bet $130 to win an even $100 meaning you'd walk away from that bet with a total of $230
$130 stake + $100 winnings = $230

On Randy it's even money.

Now is where it gets interesting ... look at GSP vs Kos. I want GSP to win. I like GSP and think he will win, but look at those numbers and ... if you're a real MMA fan ... think of how Kos fights. On GSP I'd need to bet $250 to win $100 ... not worth it. However with Kos $100 gets me $190 ..... Kos has a serious shot at beating GSP because of his style match-up. I want GSP to win, but I gotta put my money on Kos. A $500 bet wins me $950 (plus my $500 stake turning $500 into $1450) and gives me a real mindfuck for the fight "Fucking hit 'em GSP ... get up and take him down Kos you pussy" and so on.

So then the trick for me to get a real buzz without losing the farm is not to bet sooo much that I'd go bankrupt, yet enough that if I lose it all I eat macaroni -n- cheese for a month. Ohh yeah and I have to spend the money on completely frivolous things. I have a bass boat and like to upgrade it or buy high dollar tackle. The feeling I get as I walk into Cabalas with my winnings and buy the best trolling motor money can buy with my winnings lasts for days.

Drugs cannot give me the buzz I get in those kinds of fights. I normally only bet on MMA now ... although a night of Texas hold 'em is still a rare event I treasure but only from my winnings on an MMA event .

So here are the numbers on the fight tonight. These numbers will change at fight time ... sometimes drastically.

Aug-25
11:00:00 PM
GABRIEL GONZAGA -130
RANDY COUTURE - EV

Aug-25
10:30:00 PM
JOSH KOSCHECK +190
GEORGE ST PIERRE -250

Aug-25
10:00:00 PM
KURT PELLEGRINO +220
JOE STEVENSON -300

Aug-25
9:00:00 PM
FRANK MIR -175
ANTONI HARDONK+135

Aug-25
9:00:00 PM
KENDALL GROVE -250
PATRICK COTE +190

Aug-25
9:00:00 PM
ROGER HUERTA -535
ALBERTO CRANE +285

Aug-25
9:00:00 PM
RENATO BABALU SOBRAL -245
DAVID HEATH +185

Aug-25
9:00:00 PM 7015
7016 CLAY GUIDA
MARCUS AURELIO -135
+105

Aug-25
9:00:00 PM
RYAN JENSEN +240
THALES LEITES -320


I put 500 fake bucks on Koscheck over an hour ago over at MMA Playground. Pays more than 3 to 1 if he wins.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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I put 500 fake bucks on Koscheck over an hour ago over at MMA Playground. Pays more than 3 to 1 if he wins.
I have $210

Everyone here who likes MMA should bet fake money over at MMA Playground just for bragging rights

***Edit I just changed it to $500 on Randy and $500 on Kos.

Current Bankroll:..... $1000
Total Event Wagers: $1000
Available Bankroll:.... $0
Max Event Profit: . +$2254
Max Event Loss: .. -$1000



Posted by: ReproMan

500 on Koscheck
240 on Gonzaga

Event Profit: +$2088 Max Event Loss: -$740

That's everything I have.






Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
500 on Koscheck
240 on Gonzaga

Event Profit: +$2088 Max Event Loss: -$740

That's everything I have.


Lol ... you saved enough to eat burgers if you loose. I loose I'll be eating mac -n- cheese and panhandling





Posted by: ReproMan

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Lol ... you saved enough to eat burgers if you loose. I loose I'll be eating mac -n- cheese and panhandling



At least ya get cash for picking the fights right. If I lose all that money I should end up with say 50-60 bucks at least.



Posted by: ReproMan

Web Player (play button is to the far left)



Posted by: BoneCrusher

WTF?!?!?!? commercials for a fucking movie in a main ppv event totally lacks class.



Posted by: bigss75

no shit, Koz already looked like he lost when he came to the ring



Posted by: bigss75

There will be blood!!



Posted by: ReproMan

HO LEEEE SHIT!!!! Here we go to Rd. 3!!!!



Posted by: ReproMan

Ok Fuck Me, Randy Rules!!!



Posted by: BoneCrusher

That was out standing MMA.



Posted by: ReproMan

That was some impressive shit. The broken nose was unfortunate but it was inevitable, Randy would have won that in a few rounds either way. Wow.



Posted by: bigss75

Pretty good UFC. I want to see the match that caused all that blood. I heard Mir looked good



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Hey Krazyhorse is on Showtime ... right now is the walk out. He's in a rematch with Joe Boxer



Posted by: bigss75

Man they had a pretty !hardcore! promo for tuf



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Which made Dana a total asshole. He booted two fighters in a big show of how they don't act like they really do in the un-aired video we just saw.



Posted by: bigss75

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Which made Dana a total asshole. He booted two fighters in a big show of how they don't act like they really do in the un-aired video we just saw.
Yeah, I'd flip shit if they completely trashed the company house. The 1st one they charged em for breaking stuff, now its just good tv.



Posted by: fufu

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no shit, Koz already looked like he lost when he came to the ring
I thought the same thing. Looked like Hughes when he lost to GSP. What the fuck is going on.



Posted by: AKIRA

Holyfucking shit, what an incredible fight night. Not 1 fight was dull.

I think my favorite fight was the Huerta fight. I am still on the fence on using the telepromptor (sp?) as a tactic for cheap usage. However, the guy he fought was resentless. Prolly the most heart Ive ever seen.

Stevensons fight was really the only non-surprise I got for the night.

I was so happy that Kendall lost. I dont like him. Fuck him.

But what really surprised me...jesus, were the main cards! I was screaming when I saw GSP doing...a TAKEDOWN?! Either way, that fucker was dynamite tonight! GREAT upset!!!!!

Randy...jesus, what can you say about this guy. Captain America is the best title. Hes beaten too many odds to not have the credit he deserves.


Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
That was some impressive shit. The broken nose was unfortunate but it was inevitable, Randy would have won that in a few rounds either way. Wow.
Wheres the MMA playground scorecard you have in your sig?



Posted by: fufu

Huerta v. Crane was the funniest fight I have ever seen. The last round was pure comedy. I want to see Huerta fight some real competition already.

Randy was awesome! Pissed they didn't air Guida and Aurelio. 40 fucking dollars! Cut out the damn commercials and you can fit another fight in. Such bullshit.

Stevenson vs. Pellegrino was also a great fight. Great card!!! zomg!



Posted by: AKIRA

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Originally Posted by bigss75 View Post
no shit, Koz already looked like he lost when he came to the ring
I disagree 100%.

He still looked like the same asshole to me.

Ill bet Diego was beside himself.



Posted by: fufu

btw Akira, are you saying GSP beating Kos was an upset?

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But what really surprised me...jesus, were the main cards! I was screaming when I saw GSP doing...a TAKEDOWN?! Either way, that fucker was dynamite tonight! GREAT upset!!!!!




Wheres the MMA playground scorecard you have in your sig?




Posted by: BoneCrusher

Quote:
Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
Holyfucking shit, what an incredible fight night. Not 1 fight was dull.

I think my favorite fight was the Huerta fight. I am still on the fence on using the telepromptor (sp?) as a tactic for cheap usage. However, the guy he fought was resentless. Prolly the most heart Ive ever seen.

Stevensons fight was really the only non-surprise I got for the night.

I was so happy that Kendall lost. I dont like him. Fuck him.

But what really surprised me...jesus, were the main cards! I was screaming when I saw GSP doing...a TAKEDOWN?! Either way, that fucker was dynamite tonight! GREAT upset!!!!!

Randy...jesus, what can you say about this guy. Captain America is the best title. Hes beaten too many odds to not have the credit he deserves.




Wheres the MMA playground scorecard you have in your sig?
Where I am now 9-0. All my picks won. I AM the man



Posted by: AKIRA

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Huerta v. Crane was the funniest fight I have ever seen. The last round was pure comedy. I want to see Huerta fight some real competition already.

Randy was awesome! Pissed they didn't air Guida and Aurelio. 40 fucking dollars! Cut out the damn commercials and you can fit another fight in. Such bullshit.

Stevenson vs. Pellegrino was also a great fight. Great card!!! zomg!
Yeah!!!! I was the ONLY one laughing through the Huerta fight. It was a great tactic. I would be so frustrated if I was him, but fuck it, he used what he had....but was it cheap???

Stevenson was my fav fight until the telepromter showed up in the Huerta fight.


I waited for the preliminary fight to see how the mat got so bloody!!!!!!!! WHERE WAS IT!



Posted by: AKIRA

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
btw Akira, are you saying GSP beating Kos was an upset?
Upset? well, unexpected. I wont go into semantics on the definition of the word upset, but based upon its adjective, it still counts.



Posted by: AKIRA

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
Where I am now 9-0. All my picks won. I AM the man
How the fuck did you do that?

I wanted Randy, GSP, and Cote to win.

I bet against all of them.



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
Where I am now 9-0. All my picks won. I AM the man
Yeah, nice round.

I missed Kendall, Koscheck, and Gonzaga.

I thought Kos did an unbelievable job though. He took very little damage and got up in the first round. GSP is amazing though and looked real good. I kinda thought the judges would give Kos that first round and 2 of them did. Had Kos perhaps had 1 takedown in the 3rd, he would have won that fight. Very close on the scorecards.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
Yeah!!!! I was the ONLY one laughing through the Huerta fight. It was a great tactic. I would be so frustrated if I was him, but fuck it, he used what he had....but was it cheap???

Stevenson was my fav fight until the telepromter showed up in the Huerta fight.


I waited for the preliminary fight to see how the mat got so bloody!!!!!!!! WHERE WAS IT!
Yeah it was hilarious, Huerta was going 25% the entire fight it seemed.

I also wanted to see the fight that all the blood came from, wtf. I am guessing it was Guida vs. Aurelio. Guida is a crazy brawler and Aurelio is a top LW Pride fighter.



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Yeah it was hilarious, Huerta was going 25% the entire fight it seemed.

I also wanted to see the fight that all the blood came from, wtf. I am guessing it was Guida vs. Aurelio. Guida is a crazy brawler and Aurelio is a top LW Pride fighter.
No, that was the first fight of the night and the blood wasn't there for the Leites fight. Must have been Heath vs. Babalu but that wouldn't make sense either...

I guess it was there... Hmmm.



Posted by: ReproMan

I'll get to see all the undercard bouts tomorrow.



Posted by: fufu

Whatever it came from, I'm pissed I didn't get to see 3 fights. 40 dollars. 40 dollars. 40 dollars.40 FUCKING DOLLARS!



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
I'll get to see all the undercard bouts tomorrow.
Where is that?



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Yeah it was hilarious, Huerta was going 25% the entire fight it seemed.
Speaking of that, did it seem like Stevenson wasn't going 100% in the first round either? Seemed like he could overpower Kurt anytime he wanted, but didn't. I know he was going for the guillotine but it seemed weird to me...



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Where is that?
I'm a member of the video club on UFC in demand. I ordered the fights last time and for 30 bucks more you get a 6 month subscription. I figured with all the fights coming up I'd get a few PPV's worth of undercard bouts in the next few months. Can't wait to see Guida fight..



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Speaking of that, did it seem like Stevenson wasn't going 100% in the first round either? Seemed like he could overpower Kurt anytime he wanted, but didn't. I know he was going for the guillotine but it seemed weird to me...
I dont remember thinking that. I did miss a minute or two of the first round though when the cable when out due to lightning.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
I'm a member of the video club on UFC in demand. I ordered the fights last time and for 30 bucks more you get a 6 month subscription. I figured with all the fights coming up I'd get a few PPV's worth of undercard bouts in the next few months. Can't wait to see Guida fight..
Is that 30 dollars for all total PPV's in the next six months?! Or just the undercard fights tha you don't get to see?



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Is that 30 dollars for all total PPV's in the next six months?! Or just the undercard fights tha you don't get to see?

I paid 69.95 for UFC 73 and I get all the undercard fights and all the old fights I wanna watch for the next 6 months.

They have over 200 fights in the database and they add new ones every other week.



Posted by: fufu

oh, cool.

lawl, did anyone else hear Mike Goldberg commentating about Gonzaga's broken nose. Something to this nature -

Here it is Joe! This is the punch, look! Gonzaga's nose exploded!

It wasn't even the damn impact that broke his nose either. Mike is an asshat commentator.



Posted by: AKIRA

Thats a decent deal for the timeline. Actually, its a great deal.



Posted by: AKIRA

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
oh, cool.

lawl, did anyone else hear Mike Goldberg commentating about Gonzaga's broken nose. Something to this nature -

Here it is Joe! This is the punch, look! Gonzaga's nose exploded!

It wasn't even the damn impact that broke his nose either. Mike is an asshat commentator.
Yeah,...I heard some other shit tonight out of his mouth that was laughable. Someoen else might mention the comments..



Posted by: ReproMan

OMG, I went to my buddy's house (Vern) and his girlfriend's brother first tried to tell me that MMA was illegal in Florida then went on to tell me 20 more ludicrous facts about MMA. I wanted to strangle him. He was the least informed person I have ever been in contact with and he insisted he knew what he was talking about.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
OMG, I went to my buddy's house (Vern) and his girlfriend's brother first tried to tell me that MMA was illegal in Florida then went on to tell me 20 more ludicrous facts about MMA. I wanted to strangle him. He was the least informed person I have ever been in contact with and he insisted he knew what he was talking about.
lol, I also encounter people like this.

It's like the same deal as high reps get you cut and low reps get you bulky, protein makes you fat, creatine is a hormone.

Btw, can you believe three more events in Sept? Rampage vs. Jackson, w00t. Shogun in the UFC for the first time.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
lol, I also encounter people like this.

It's like the same deal as high reps get you cut and low reps get you bulky, protein makes you fat, creatine is a hormone.

Btw, can you believe three more events in Sept? Rampage vs. Jackson, w00t. Shogun in the UFC for the first time.
Yeah, it's pretty crazy. The show starts on the night of the Fight Night too. Tons of UFC this coming month.



Posted by: fufu

w00t

7/9 on my picks...I knew I was taking a risk picking Kos ftw. Not bad though



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
w00t

7/9 on my picks...I knew I was taking a risk picking Kos ftw. Not bad though
At MMA Playground?



Posted by: ReproMan

I went 6/9. From what I've read it was Heath bleeding all over the place.

Edit** It was in fact David Heath bleeding all over the place.



Posted by: ReproMan

Stevenson's jaw is broken.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
At MMA Playground?
Yes.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Stevenson's jaw is broken.
holy crap! Where are you finding this out?



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
holy crap! Where are you finding this out?
Sherdog Beatdown Radio - ONLINE



Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
haha, listening to it as we speak(er, post).

I tuned in too late I guess.

check this out, I find it kind of funny.

Augsburg College - Athletics



Posted by: ReproMan



Wow.



Posted by: fufu

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Wow.
whoaaaaaaa



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Yes.
Excuse me for being a dumbass but what's your s/n?



Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
Excuse me for being a dumbass but what's your s/n?
"fufu"!



Posted by: bigss75

guess babalu got some of his purse lost for that fight.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Team Canada



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Team Canada
Your boys did do a good job tonight. Maybe someday there'll even be a Canadian champ!!



Posted by: IainDaniel

Maybe one day they will have an event up here.

MMA has been huge up here for a long time.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
Maybe one day they will have an event up here.

MMA has been huge up here for a long time.
Are there any Canadian franchises? There are smaller ones in Europe, Russia, South America, and the UK that have produced top fighters.



Posted by: IainDaniel

All sort of underground events up here.

Organizations like TKO and ECC



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigss75 View Post
guess babalu got some of his purse lost for that fight.
I read he held his submission too long on purpose and they fined him 25k for "excessive rudeness". I heard Heath came into the fight with a shirt with Sobral's mugshot on the front. Disrespect from both men. I don't feel that bad for Heath though, even though there is no excuse for what Sobral did.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
"fufu"!



You in a fight camp?

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
I read he held his submission too long on purpose and they fined him 25k for "excessive rudeness". I heard Heath came into the fight with a shirt with Sobral's mugshot on the front. Disrespect from both men. I don't feel that bad for Heath though, even though there is no excuse for what Sobral did.
Daaaam. No wonder Babalu was so fired up, that's mad disrespect. Can't wait to see that one.



Posted by: fufu

Nope, no fight camp.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Nope, no fight camp.
I sent you an invite. BC is in it, and A Black Guy is DeadMorgan.



Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
I sent you an invite. BC is in it, and A Black Guy is DeadMorgan.
w00t, I am groupified. Thanks

My overall score kind of sucks because I didn't take it that serious before. This season I'm doing ok though.



Posted by: ReproMan

Haha

Rogan during the Heath vs. Babalu fight: "Wow, that's ridiculous... If you saw that in a horror movie you'd say "wow, that's too much blood""

Babalu held on to the choke for about 3 seconds after Mazzagati tried to pull him off, just long enough to put Heath to sleep. BJ Penn held on to Pulver longer actually but Babalu looked Mazzagati right in the eyes and waited till Heath went nighty night. I liked it.

Josh Barnett was Babalu's cornerman, I hope Dana signs him!!



Posted by: AKIRA

God dammit, where is the blood bath fight?!



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
God dammit, where is the blood bath fight?!
I've got a subscription to UFC on demand, you get all the undercard bouts the day after the PPV.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Downloading the unaired prelims now.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Heeeey .... welcome to the camp fufucious



Posted by: ReproMan

I'm still impressed with Koscheck. He really showed a ton of improvement in his game. No panic set in while he was on the bottom, survived 2 Kimura attempts and basically came out unscathed, more than Hughes, Trigg and Sherk can say that's for sure. Kos truly deserves to be mentioned amongst the top fighters in the WW division.



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by BoneCrusher View Post
Downloading the unaired prelims now.
Nice!

I thought Mir looked awesome. He looked quick, responsive, and strong. BJJ is top notch as it once appeared to be. I'm excited for him. Could prove to once again be a player in a confusing/crowded HW division.



Posted by: BoneCrusher

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Haha

Rogan during the Heath vs. Babalu fight: "Wow, that's ridiculous... If you saw that in a horror movie you'd say "wow, that's too much blood""

Babalu held on to the choke for about 3 seconds after Mazzagati tried to pull him off, just long enough to put Heath to sleep. BJ Penn held on to Pulver longer actually but Babalu looked Mazzagati right in the eyes and waited till Heath went nighty night. I liked it.

Josh Barnett was Babalu's cornerman, I hope Dana signs him!!
I just watched that. Mazzagati shoulda DQ'd his ass.
__________________________________________________ ____________


Why Barnett hates Dana, Zuffa, and the UFC:
The Rest of the story.


Quote:

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Vacant UFC Title
Posted on July 30, 2002
The UFC has stripped Josh Barnett of the UFC Heavyweight Title. The match at UFC 39 between Ricco Rodriguez and Randy Couture will now be for the UFC Heavyweight Title.
__________________________________________________ ____________

Josh Barnett Suspended for Six Months
Posted on July 27, 2002
In a meeting held Friday (7/26/02) in Las Vegas, the Nevada State Athletic Commission made the decision to suspend Josh Barnett for six months. Barnett tested positive for anabolic steroids following his UFC title victory against Couture. This comes days after Josh Barnett's camp released information on an independent drug test that defended Barnett.
__________________________________________________ ____________

Independent Drug Test Proves Josh Barnett’s Innocence
Posted on July 24, 2002

UFC Heavyweight Champion Fights to Clear Reputation After NSAC’s Testing Procedures Result in False Positive

KIRKLAND, Washington--On April 22, 2002, the Nevada State Athletic Commission filed a complaint against Josh Barnett for alleged anabolic steroid use, stemming from a drug test after his win over Randy Couture in UFC 36 on March 22, 2002. The NSAC contacted Barnett and his trainer, Matt Hume, to schedule a hearing via teleconference on May 24, 2002. In addition to Barnett and Hume, Roy Silbert (United Full Contact Federation President), Dr. Mark Webber (drug testing expert and administrator for USA Power Lifting and the International Olympic Committee), Mark Ratner (NSAC commissioner), Dr. Flip Homansky (NSAC), Keith Kizer (NSAC attorney) took part in the meeting. The issues expressed were as follows:
NSAC issues:
  • The NSAC alleged two positive tests for anabolic steroids from samples taken on 11/02/01 and 03/22/02. Josh Barnett’s issues:
  • The NSAC did not provide Josh with a list of banned substances or inform him of any testing requirements for anabolic agents on either occasion. To date, Josh has not received a list of banned substances.
  • The NSAC claims that Josh tested positive for the same substances on 11/02/01, four months before his title fight with Randy Couture. Yet, the NSAC did not inform him that he had failed that initial test or provide him with the alleged results. According to the NSAC, Barnett’s first drug test revealed three anabolic metabolites, one of which remains in the human body for up to 18 months. If this was indeed the case, why did the NSAC and Zuffa subsequently allow Barnett to fight for the world championship just four months later with full knowledge that he might have steroids in his system?
  • The NSAC withholds a portion of each fighter’s purse until the drug test is completed. If the results are positive, the fighter must forfeit that portion of his purse. If Josh failed his drug test, why did the NSAC send that money to Barnett on both occasions with no notification of any problem?
  • The NSAC did not follow established protocol when testing Barnett. They did not provide tracking information for his samples. Nor did they separate Josh’s samples into two specimens in his presence. Because of these and other basic protocol errors, a positive test could not be accurately verified or validated. Many factors can contribute to a positive drug test—hence the term “false positive.” Without proper notification and protocol, the true cause of the positive result for anabolic steroids cannot be determined.
Josh Barnett has still not received results from the NSAC drug test on 11/02/01.

During the course of the meeting, both sides acknowledged the other side’s concerns. Hume informed the NSAC members that Dr. Webber had already scheduled another test with Aegis laboratories that would follow proper protocol and established Olympic standards.

The NSAC members and attorney agreed that a negative result and education from Dr. Webber would resolve this situation. NSAC attorney Keith Kizer stated that he would prepare a draft of the agreement for both parties to sign. It was agreed that this was to serve as the final hearing and that the signed draft would bring the issue to a resolution.

Dr. Homansky then invited Dr. Webber and Roy Silbert to come to Las Vegas on the weekend of June 22 to meet with the NSAC toxicology specialist. The purpose of the meeting was for Dr. Webber to educate the NSAC on the standards, methods of protocol and proper anabolic drug testing. Dr. Webber and Roy Silbert subsequently met with Dr. Homansky and the NSAC toxicology specialist in Las Vegas as requested.

On June 11, 2002, Barnett took a new test administered by Dr. Webber, who utilized Olympic-level protocol. The result of this test was negative, demonstrating that Josh is not currently using and could not have been using the alleged substances as charged due to the length of time that such substances remain present in the human body.

Approximately three weeks after the hearing, Barnett and Hume had still not received the draft from Keith Kizer, as discussed. However, they did receive a phone call stating that another hearing was to be scheduled. When asked why the draft of the aforementioned verbal agreement had not been prepared and why the NSAC wished to schedule a second hearing, Kizer stated that it was just a formality and he would get the draft to them right away.

Hume informed the NSAC members of Barnett’s travel schedule, which clearly stated that the only time Barnett would be away was the week of the UFC 38 in England in mid July. Unfortunately, when Kizer finally sent the draft of the agreement from the May 24 teleconference, it was inaccurate. In addition, the NSAC requested a second hearing during the time that Josh was scheduled to corner Ian Freeman in London, England—a time conflict of which the NSAC was well aware.

Barnett, Silbert and Hume worked diligently with the NSAC to develop a mutually acceptable draft of the May 24th agreement. Barnett also availed himself to the NSAC by telephone from England on the day and time of the scheduled hearing.

Unfortunately, the NSAC refused the draft and did not speak with Josh on their scheduled date. The NSAC then rescheduled the hearing for July 26, 2002. Barnett requested to be present at the hearing via telephone as he does not have the resources to pay for the travel expenses he would be forced to incur in order to appear in person.

Meanwhile, neither Zuffa LLC nor UFC president Dana White has bothered to contact Barnett to express any concern or support for that organization’s reigning heavyweight champion in this matter.

It is Barnett’s hope that the NSAC will have the integrity and honesty to honor the resolution that its members agreed upon during the hearing on May 24, 2002. He is also optimistic that Zuffa will exercise its substantial influence in Nevada and voice its support for their innocent champion.

Josh Barnett is very frustrated with this situation. “I am a fighter, not a lawyer,” he stated. “I am innocent, and I should be fighting right now.”
Source: AMC Pankration









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