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Originally Posted by ReproMan
For the promoters to say anything in regards to how a fighter should fight against a given opponent, and compensating him monetarily to ensure their request is fulfilled is unethical.
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Originally Posted by CORUM
what happen to all those people that THOUGHT kimbo was the real deal??? told EVERYBODY he is GARBAGE!!!! he got beat by a guy that couldnt hack it in the UFC. guess he is not ready for the professionals yet. he needs to back to the streets where he can punk those weak guys that cant fight!!!
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Number one, his striking technique is pathetic. He throws loopy almost open handed strikes. He's broken his hand/wrist on more than one occasion and managed to do it in the :36 it took him to destroy Sylvia. Plus he doesn't have kicks, one less thing for someone with a good gameplan to worry about. The only people you really have to match Fedor's ability against are fighters that are completely out-matched by him. Nog is a horrbile match-up for Fedor, they do the same things but Fedor is explosive. Cro-cop isn't a good measuring stick, it's pretty apparent how one dimensional he is, and his "legendary sprawl" turned out to be anything but legendary. He did kick Big Tim's ass, but when has Tim every showed composuer in times of duress? Everytime a talented grappler gets a hold of something, he panicks and either taps, or gets something damaged.
Go back and watch the Lindland fight for me. Lindland is a middleweight with an identical style of one Randy Couture and he had no problem getting under the sloppy striking, securing a body clinch and getting a takedown.. Well almost. I realize that the fight ended soon after that, but not before Fedor grabbed the ropes to sway momentum in his favor. Not saying that would have changed the outcome, but if a middleweight can use gameplan and technique to secure a takedown on Fedor, I'm not so sure why a larger, equally talented wrestler can't do the same. Especially one of Randy's experience. Like I said about him escaping trouble before, they were B level fighters he "survived" against. If someone of considerable skill put him in one of those situations, the chances he gets out are much slimmer. PRIDE had a way of presenting fighters and making them appear larger than life. Fedor built his legacy on beating fighters like Heath Herring, Cro-cop, Mark Coleman, Noguiera and now Tim Sylvia and it was cemented by having Fedor beat up on chumps like Zuluhino, Hong Man Choi, Kevin Randleman, Kaz Fujita (a wrestler that nearly KO'd Fedor) and Nayoa Ogawa in between. When you take a step back and look at that list, it's really not impressive. When's the last time GSP fought someone that wasn't top ten or a champion? How about Randy? Like I said before, I still think Fedor is top 3 P4P and a great fighter. But I'm not going to let the hype-machine known as PRIDE skew my judgement., he's fast and strong and impressive for a man his size, but defintely beatable. |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Is Seth really gay?
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Originally Posted by PreMier
ANYONE is beatable.. so thats kind of a blanket statement. Fedor is good, and IMO he is the best fighter out there.
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Originally Posted by tallcall
That's what's going around here, and I hope it's true (Kimbo got beaten by a lighter weight - 30 lbs lighter - gay boy from Orlando!).
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
I think Anderson Silva and BJ Penn are better P4P.
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Easily. Not even close.
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
To be honest, I'd really like to see Anderson fight Fedor. I've never seen anyone with Anderson's timing and accuracy outside of a boxing ring, and he's not a small guy either. Anderson would probably only give up 10 lbs or so come fight time and you know he's got the power to KO anyone, his fists are fuckin dynamite.
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
He's married, but who knows..
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Originally Posted by Richie1888
but if fedor took it down would u favour fedor with the weight adantage ?
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Originally Posted by tallcall
There are a lot of gay guys on Craigslist who are married, some with kids, looking for sex with other men. It's really sad and scary at the same time.
Also, it's not exactly easy to do MMA and be openly gay, his marriage could be just to mask it. Coming out of the closet can still ruin careers. |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Well, you'd have to, but you also have to remember that they are fighting 5 minute rounds so Anderson would get the chance to get on his feet at least 5 times, opposed to the 3 times that Fedor was used to in PRIDE. Also, Fedor doesn't really have a shot, he likes to work from the clinch so he'd have to avoid Anderson's strikes for 25 minutes in order to get the takedown, which nobody has done in years. Fedor likes to close the distance with his trademark looping punches and Anderson would have a good chance of taking advantage of that with his pinpoint accutate punches. I would defintely favor Fedor in the fight, but Anderson has that 1 punch KO power and technically far superior stand-up skills.
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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
How does Fedor not have a stand up game? He has 1 punch KO power. The only reason he choked out TS is because he knocked him to the ground in the first 5 seconds of the match with 1 punch???
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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
How does Fedor not have a stand up game? He has 1 punch KO power. The only reason he choked out TS is because he knocked him to the ground in the first 5 seconds of the match with 1 punch???
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Report: Fedor-Arlovski Set for Affliction II Oct 10, 2008 4:44 PM John Chandler Perennial heavyweight king Fedor Emelianenko and former UFC heavyweight champion Andrei Arlovski will reportedly clash in a bout for the WAMMA heavyweight title that will headline Affliction’s rescheduled “Day of Reckoning†show, which is currently slated for January 24 according to MMARated.com. Affliction Entertainment Vice President Tom Atencio confirmed the news with the website earlier today. No other details were given except that the card will be comprised strictly of mixed martial arts and not a limited amount of boxing matches as previously expected. An official announcement regarding the event is expected next week. Emelianenko and Arlovski were originally supposed to meet on the event’s previously scheduled date of October 11 but Emelianenko was scratched from the event due to a lingering hand injury. Former UFC and PRIDE standout Josh Barnett was matched up against Arlovski instead but was passed on this time around due to rumored communication issues with Affliction management. Emelianenko was victorious in his stateside debut on July 19, scoring a 36 second submission of former UFC title holder Tim Sylvia at Affliction’s “Banned†show. The win was Emelianenko’s first over a highly ranked opponent in his own weight division since he won a decision over Mirko Filipovic at PRIDE Final Conflict 2005. Arlovski extended his winning streak to five last Saturday night, knocking out former IFL heavyweight champion Ben Rothwell in the second round of their featured bout at EliteXC’s “Heat†show. He was also victorious at Affliction’s inaugural show in July, scoring a KO of Ben Rothwell as well. |
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Fedor does have a stand up game. It's just sloppy. Anderson's is light years ahead technically. Watch a HL reel of Fedor. When he's in striking mode, he literally just tees off with looping power punches with his head straight up. I'm not saying that can't be effective and overwhelming in some instances because he has super power and a crazy ground game that guys have in the back of their minds. A lot of guys will back off and try to weather the storm while the accumulation of Fedor's strikes end up knocking them down.
But if you put Fedor in with someone like Silva in a strictly striking setting, it wouldn't last very long. Silva's boxing skills are so much better it really can't even be debated. Add in his kicks and clinch game/knees and it's pretty much a wrap. I'd have to take time to think about how an MMA match would go between the two. Just comparing the two in striking is a joke though. |
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Originally Posted by PreMier
:w its:you all make me LOL.. fedor has great standup.. it works!!! just because its not 'text book' doesnt mean its not technical. look at jardine.. he has aweful looking standup, but he beat chuck at his own game (who a lot of people think has a great striking game). the fact is fedor hasnt fucking lost! why? because he is good. i cant believe all the shit people talk, its totally amazing to me. |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
I guess you didn't read my post... There is a difference between having great stand-up and throwing hard punches and you obviously can't make the distinction. You can't have "great stand-up" in MMA and not even have kicks in your arsenal. Jardine, while extremely unorthodox, has good striking. He has great kicks and though his punches look awkward as well, at least connects with them properly. Fedor on the other hand has a "lingering hand injury". Geee, I wonder why that is?
There was an Inside MMA episode where Bas talks about Fedor's poor technique and how it has led to the recurring hand injury. The video isn't working but one of Bas' quotes are in the article: "Inside MMA" preview: More on Fedor Emelianenko's hand injury | MMAjunkie.com Nobody is saying that Fedor isn't effective or isn't good, just not a technically sound striker. If he has any weaknesses it's his striking technique and if he continues to fight the top guys, eventually someone will expose it. |
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Originally Posted by PreMier
dont fucking insult me by telling me i dont know what im talking about bro.. i think we can agree to disagree here.
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Originally Posted by PreMier
dont fucking insult me by telling me i dont know what im talking about bro.. i think we can agree to disagree here.
fedor is a great fighter imo and his record shows that. he has his style of fighting and it doesnt need to incorporate kicks. would he be more effective if it did? sure it would, but again he hasnt needed to focus on kicking.. because he is winning with what he is using. your right, if he continues to fight top fighters he will probably lose. no one in mma has a perfect record that fights the best of the best, but again thats a total blanket statement imo. right now i really dont feel there is anyone in mma that could beat him. but its mma, and you never know. |
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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
Dana has a point, but I am 100% HE himself has probably done things to make money at someone elses expense. That crap happens all over the place with any huge company.
As for Fedor's hand...I'm sure his hand could be injured due to the power behind those punches more then the bad form. My best friend broke his hand punching a kid in the face, and the bone that broke was on his middle finger on the top of his hand...that isn't about form....that has to do with the bone in the hand gave out before the other persons skull. |
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Frank Shamrock vs Ken Shamrock fight in the works for early 2009 By: MMAmania Adopted and quasi-estranged brothers Frank and Ken Shamrock have apparently signed a contract to meet inside the cage once and for all sometime in 2009, according to a recent ESPN.com article. The brothers have had somewhat of a behind the scenes feud going on for years. And a fight between the two has been talked about for a while and now … so take this latest announcement with a grain of salt. Frank is a master promoter, which means that he could be using all the high profile attention Ken received for not fighting Kimbo Slice at Elite XC: “Heat” on October 4. In the past, he’s referred to fighting his brother as, “the biggest fight in mixed martial arts history.” Here is his most recent take on the match up: “We’ve both signed a contract to fight each other. Ken is down with it. We talked about it two years ago, and we’ve agreed materially to fight. The fight has a cool hook, brothers beating each other up. Everyone wants to see that.”Frank has not competed since losing his Strikeforce middleweight title to Cung Le earlier this year. He could not answer the bell for the fourth round in a thrilling affair because his forearm was shattered during the fight. He is also on the CBS “Saturday Night Fights” television announcer crew. And when Ken pulled out of the Slice fight because of a cut sustained hours for the bout, Frank — who has not been training for a fight and competes at 185 pounds — volunteered to fight the much larger Slice on two hours notice. However, CBS executives reportedly nixed the idea and opted to go with Seth Petruzelli instead. The rest, as “they” say is history. So since that horse left the barn, Frank switched public relations gears and now apparently is already beating his drum for a showdown with his 44-year old brother. For his part, Ken is equally game. Here’s a snip from him: “Will the fight happen? Absolutely. He’s got a buttkicking coming to him. Everything I’ve learned, everything I have bottled up in me, is going to come out on him. I’ve still got love for Frank, but I’m angry at him. He feels he’s better than me, but I always spanked him in the gym. Now he wants to show me. I figured he’d wait until I was 50 years old, but I guess he’s waiting until I turn 45.”Ken is a mixed martial arts pioneer who has not won a professional fight in more than four years. In fact, he has lost eight of his last 10 fights dating back to 2001 and he’s on a five-fight losing skid. A UFC Hall of Fame inductee, Ken dropped his first and most recent bout under the ProElite banner, losing to Robert “Buzz” Berry via first knockout at Cage Rage 25: “Bring it On” earlier this year. That, too, was supposed to be a warm-up for the “World’s Most Dangerous Man” to groom him for a big money match down the road against either Slice, or his younger brother, Frank. He didn’t deliver … and he rarely does these days. But that may not matter Elite XC Head of Fight Operations Jeremy Lappen appears warm to the idea. Here’s what he had to say: “They’re talking about doing it and we’re interested in the fight. It’s a storyline everyone can relate to, Cain versus Abel.”It’s interesting that Elite XC is open to working with Ken after everything that happened as a result of him being scratched from the Slice fight. He put them in a terrible spot. And then everything that has transpired since that night, including allegations of fight influencing, put the already struggling promotion in a much deeper whole of which to climb out. Furthermore, is this really a fight that fight fans want to see or is it a fight that Frank and Ken think the fans want to see? Let is know what you think in the comments section below. |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Bout time.
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
It's a recurring injury, this isn't the first, or the second time it's kept him sidelined. Ya know, I swear you guys don't read these posts, I've stated that 2 times now....
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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
He needs to quit punching so hard and his hand won't hurt... I can't see it being a form issue at his level of play. How you swing your arm and how your hand connects are not related in every case. He might have a wide swing but that doesn't mean he is connecting with the wrong part of his fist. Am I wrong?
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‘Goofy Homo’ knocks out Kimbo Slice Oct 6th, 2008 by Jim Buzinski.  Seth Petruzelli, a last-minute replacement, needed only 14 seconds to knock out previously unbeaten Kimbo Slice on Saturday night in a mixed martial arts fight. What was strange was what Deadspin found on Petruzelli’s MySpace page, where he described himself as a “goofy homo.” I AM A GOOFY HOMO THAT DOESNT ACT LIKE A FIGHTER AT ALL. I DO IT FOR FUN NOT CAUSE I LIKE TO FIGHT…I JUST HAPPEN TO BE GOOD AT FIGHTING…..AND LOOKING GOODSo does this mean a gay guy KO’d Slice? Not exactly. While there are some “interesting” photos of Petruzelli on MySpace (see below), his bio describes himself as 28, straight and married (he calls her “my sexy biiatch.”) He says he has opened “my latest business venture, a smoothie king, with my woman.” On the other hand, not many straight guys would use pink type on a black background for his MySpace page. Or post this: “i kissed a guy and i liked it, the taste of his cherry chapstick.” Given the number of homoerotic photos with “gay” in the caption, Petruzelli might be straight but play gay on the Web. Update: Dan Wetzel of Yahoo Sports contacted Petruzelli and got this response: “I’ve been happily married for two years and been with her for five years, so I want to put that to rest right now. I’m officially 100 percent not gay. I’m in love with her very much.”      |
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Originally Posted by fufu
So what is the deal with TUF? Has anyone been watching? Who is the top guy? Anything notable happen?
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Originally Posted by fufu
Cool, I was wondering if Browning was still in the mix.
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
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Originally Posted by fufu
That does suck, but...go get him Kos! He is one of my favorite fighters, it is a great fight. Although, I would have rather seen Diego fight Alves. Love them both.
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Yeah Junie does look like he has a ton of talent but he is definately immature as all hell. He has a good chance of winning if he doesn't get booted. He has no self control.
Actually a lot of the LW dudes have some great potential and will make some noise in the UFC once they get experienced. A few very well rounded lightweights from what I've seen. |
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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
Why does everyone dislike Bisping? He fought the better fight without a doubt. He looked fresh the whole fight. He was not the agressor but he used his opponents energy against him...he would rush in and catch a jab....he is like 19-1 now....can't argue with that much. I am not saying I am a Bisping fan, but I thought he would win from the get go, and he for sure played the better game tonight.
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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
Why does everyone dislike Bisping? He fought the better fight without a doubt. He looked fresh the whole fight. He was not the agressor but he used his opponents energy against him...he would rush in and catch a jab....he is like 19-1 now....can't argue with that much. I am not saying I am a Bisping fan, but I thought he would win from the get go, and he for sure played the better game tonight.
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EliteXC’s Demise Likely to Signal Change in MMA Landscape Oct 21, 2008 1:53 AM John Chandler Photo by Esther Lin/EliteXC. High network television ratings, the financial backing of two media giants, and the greatest amount of visibility for an MMA promotion to date proved to be not enough for ProElite and its figurehead brand, EliteXC, as another organization that attempted to dethrone the Zuffa empire has likely come to a crashing halt. The news of ProElite’s demise has quickly spread throughout the mixed martial arts community and as expected, so has reaction. However the story of the downfall of one of MMA’s most influential companies is just beginning as facts regarding ProElite’s insurmountable debt, failed sale, and questionable tactics will likely surface within the next few weeks following its expected cessation at the end of this week. During its close to two-year run as one of MMA’s most unique associations, ProElite began as a vision for MMA fighters and fans that weren’t too fond of the monopoly the Ultimate Fighting Championship was quickly creating. Showtime, which owned a 20 percent stake in the company, aired ProElite’s first live event in February 2007. Entitled “EliteXC: Destiny”, over 7,000 fans packed the DeSoto Civic Center in Southaven, Mississippi to see Frank Shamrock continue his return to active competition against Renzo Gracie. Overall, the EliteXC brand put on a total of twenty events, nine of them promoted as part of its ShoXC: Elite Challenger Series extension, which was formed as an outlet for up-and-coming prospects to showcase their skills in front of a broader audience compared to smaller regional shows. The company also acquired some of the sport’s better-known feeder promotions in Cage Rage, King of the Cage, and ICON Sport, as well as forming partnerships with Rumble on the Rock and Korea-based Spirit MC. With its goal to build a non-exclusive organization housing several outlets for fighters to stay active in, it once looked as if Zuffa may have had a legitimate rival company to deal with, especially when CBS came calling this past spring. EliteXC became the first major MMA promotion other than the now-defunct International Fight League to have a live event broadcast on network television when “Primetime” was shown in front of 6.5 million viewers worldwide. However the numbers from the next two events under the CBS banner failed to reach the same level, leading to speculation that CBS may have been considering dropping ProElite from their deal in favor of agreeing to terms with either the UFC or Affliction. ProElite reportedly accumulated close to $60 million in debt over its existence, an amount too large for the organization to overcome, despite funding from both CBS and Showtime that helped it stay afloat for the short term following an August 15 SEC filing stating that the company would need approximately $3.5 million in funding to operate until the end of the year. The organization was subject of much criticism during its run, the majority of it surrounding a select group of individuals - Gary Shaw and his son Jared and their prized acquisition, popular internet street brawler Kevin “Kimbo Slice” Ferguson, who drew extreme ire from hardcore fans who didn’t want Ferguson’s image to taint a sport that had began to drift far away from its controversial past. However negativity reached an all-time high following Ferguson’s first professional defeat to one-time “Ultimate Fighter” reality show contestant Seth Petruzelli, who one day after his monumental victory, revealed that EliteXC officials had bribed him with a bonus to keep the fight against Ferguson on the feet. A slew of negative publicity, mainstream media coverage, contradicting official statements from EliteXC, and a preliminary investigation by the Florida Department of Business and Professional Regulation into the matter followed and likely damaged relations with both CBS and Showtime, who entered into talks to purchase the ProElite brand before opting to walk away from the negotiations and reportedly cut off all funding, quickly leading to the company’s deterioration over the last couple of weeks. While some fans may rejoice over the demise of ProElite and its lackluster advertising efforts, sketchy operating methods, and overall lack of MMA knowledge, the fact remains that hundreds of fighters are now unemployed as a result of the organization folding. The major promotions such as the UFC, WEC, Strikeforce, and Affliction may choose to participate in the newly stocked free agent market, but the majority of fighters under contract to ProElite will remain without a home and be relegated to the smaller local shows where they once developed their skills. Unlike the failure of the IFL, PRIDE, and BodogFight promotions, the MMA landscape is now losing multiple organizations for fighters to compete in. The futures of Cage Rage, King of the Cage and ICON Sport, three of MMA’s longest-running and well-known regional shows, are now in doubt because of non-competing contracts their owners signed before being bought out by ProElite. The demise of ProElite likely signals that multiple organizations will never again allow themselves to be purchased by a larger parent company while they are still successful and experiencing monetary gain, the exact mistake that the aforementioned three made over the last two years. Also in question is the train of thought of network television executives - With mixed martial arts only pulling in mediocre numbers on CBS and the only brand to put on an event for a channel now extinct, will they ever again consider taking the risk of putting the sport back in the national spotlight once again, or leave it relegated to cable television for the foreseeable future? Affliction remains a likely candidate to replace EliteXC’s spot in CBS’ bi-monthly lineup but whether or not a deal will be struck remains unknown. Amidst all of the doom and gloom surrounding ProElite’s demise, EliteXC may not be completely dead as a number of outlets will be permitted to bid for the rights to the brand’s name, including its former part-owners, Showtime Networks. Still, the fact remains that Showtime could also easily choose to just purchase the naming rights, video library and nothing else. The most awkward situation coming out of this involves the UFC, the sport’s biggest, most profitable and most successful promotional company to date. At the same time EliteXC is going down the drain, so are three of the UFC’s traditional feeder organizations. Affliction Entertainment is visibly going through its own share of growing pains and San Jose-based Strikeforce doesn’t look ready enough to burst out onto the national scene just yet. The MMA landscape has now reverted to what it looked like pre-2005, before “The Ultimate Fighter” reality series cause the sport to explode in popularity - the UFC is still the big dog, but gone is the majority of its competition, as well as some of the smaller organizations that produced some of the UFC’s most popular stars. Will the UFC and the sport continue to thrive? |
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Originally Posted by fufu
Summary? hehehehhe
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
lol, I didn't realize the article was the big.
Basically EliteXC's parent company has finally shut it's doors. Three years and $55 million dollars later, combined with the Kimbo fiasco and the Florida State Athletic Commission's investigation of a "fix", Pro Elite pulled the plug on the brand name. It will be interesting to see what happens next, considering how many smaller oragainizations Pro Elite swallowed up over the past few years... |
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UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote Date: Oct 25, 2008 Location: Rosemont, Ill. (near Chicago) Venue: Allstate Arena Broadcast: Pay Per View MAIN CARD (TELEVISED)
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Me too...
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
I'm so impressed with Koscheck stepping up to take this fight on 2 weeks notice. He should be able to control Alves on the ground, and from what I've seen in the past Alves gets pretty discouraged in that position.
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Originally Posted by fufu
Here here!
Koscheck will be too much for Alves IMO. If I had to pick a #2 in the UFC WW division I'd put that on Kos. However, I don't know if he has the potential to ever beat GSP, but we shall see. Both of those guys are getting better every day. Alves could lay a beating on the feet though, we shall see (hope he makes weight). I'm really looking forward to see what happens. Also, I can't wait to gorge myself on pizza while watching this. |
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
I wonder what the odds are on the Silva/Cote fight?
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Originally Posted by fufu
Me too...
I most looking forward to Tyson/Sherk and Thiago/Koscheck |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Going to HOOTERS. Gotta switch it up.
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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
Have to give Cote props. He hung in there until his knee snapped. Doubtful he would have won but he was not being totally dominated. There is not telling how 3-5 would have went. Silva has never been pushed that long. For all we know 4-5 could have been a bad times for him.
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UFC 90 bonuses: Sherk, Griffin, dos Santos and Fisher each earn $65K by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Oct 26, 2008 at 1:56 am ET Sean Sherk, Tyson Griffin, Junior dos Santos and Spencer Fisher each earned $65,000 "fight night" bonuses for their performances at UFC 90. UFC 90 took place Saturday at Allstate Arena in Rosemont, Ill., and aired live on pay-per-view. The bonus amounts were significantly higher than the $40,000 awards issued a week ago at UFC 89. The UFC announced the bonuses at the UFC 90 post-fight press conference and were confirmed by MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com). Explosive lightweights -- and cardio machines -- Sean Sherk and Tyson Griffin combined for the evening's fight of the night. Seemingly destined for a decision from the beginning, the two wrestling experts flashed their kickboxing skills for the full 15 minutes available. In the end, Sherk proved just a touch better than his opponent, and vaulted himself back to the upper echelon of the division with the unanimous decision win. Despite the loss, Griffin picked up his fourth career fight of the night bonus. Meanwhile, dos Santos didn't have much competition for knockout of the night, but it's hard to believe that would have mattered. Despite entering the bout as a lightly regarded underdog to heavyweight contender Fabricio Werdum, dos Santos impressed in his UFC debut. In a sequence we'll surely see on future highlight reels, dos Santos delivered a stunning right uppercut that dropped his opponent and forced the TKO stoppage just 81 seconds into the fight. Fisher looked sharp throughout his three round battle with youngster Shannon Gugerty. Fisher locked in a triangle choke in the third round. Despite Gugerty's best attempt at defending, Fisher eventually earned the victory -- and the bonus. For more on UFC 90, including official results, check out the MMA Events section of MMAjunkie.com. |
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UFC 90 at Allstate Arena scores record $2.8 million gate by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Oct 26, 2008 at 5:05 am ET The UFC's initial foray into the Land of Lincoln proved to be a successful one. Saturday's "UFC 90: Silva vs. Cote" event, a pay-per-view show that took place at Allstate Arena near Chicago, drew an announced sold-out crowd of 15,359. In a post-event press conference, UFC President Dana White said the live gate for the show was $2.8 million, which breaks the previous record held by Wrestlemania 13 in 1997. Official figures will be available from the Illinois Athletic Commission later this week. Illinois only recently passed legislation to begin the regulation of mixed martial arts. However, as MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com) reported last year in an interview with a commission spokesperson, the state often issued exemptions so organizations could host MMA events prior to the new legislation. "When we first banned what we termed 'extreme fighting' events in 2004, these organizations were brand new," spokesperson Sue Hofer said. "We were seeing events where a few guys would come into a bar and ask for volunteers, and they'd fight right there. We didn't want that happening in our state. That's why the legislation to ban the sport was passed, but it's always had a structured waiver process that would allow MMA and other types of formatted programs to continue." Approximately 100 waivers were issued to legitimate organizations, including the now-defunct International Fight League, in 2007 alone. But, aside from overseas events, the UFC doesn't host shows in U.S. states unless the respective state athletic commission regulates the show. That's not to say the organization wasn't tempted, though. The UFC had long wanted to venture to Chicago, which consistently ranks as the No. 1 U.S. market for pay-per-view buys, according to White. For more on UFC 90, which featured UFC middleweight champion Anderson Silva's successful title defense over Patrick Cote (due to a knee injury), check out the MMA Events section of MMAjunkie.com. |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
What time? I have tech, so I can watch it if its on when I get home.
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Denis Kang signs four-fight UFC contract The Ultimate Fighting Championship (UFC) today bolstered its middleweight division by signing high-profile 185-pound standout Denis Kang to a four-fight contract to compete inside the Octagon. Here’s a snip from the official announcement: “Denis will now be able to showcase his skills to a whole new audience who hasn’t had the chance to see this exciting fighter in action. Denis has always expressed a desire to fight in the UFC and we are pleased we were able to help him get this deal done. Denis will bring a lot of excitement to the 185-pound division! Congrats Denis!”Kang — who has enjoyed success primarily in Japan and Korea fighting in the PRIDE and Spirit MC organizations — is on a two-fight win streak after losing back-to-back matches. He most recently defeated Marvin Eastman via first round technical knockout at Raw Combat: “Redemption” last month. The Canadian with South Korean roots was a participant in the Dream Middleweight Grand Prix 2008, losing to eventual tournament winner Gegard Mousasi via submission (triangle choke). He was an early favorite to win it all before getting upset by the slick Armenian. Kang was also the runner-up at the PRIDE Welterweight Grand Prix 2006, losing to Kazuo Misaki via split decision. No fight date or possible opponent for Kang is known at this time. However, expect to see him make his Octagon debut sometime in early 2009. If he can get off to a good start don’t be too surprised to see him fighting reigning division champion Anderson Silva sometime very soon … Kang has great mixed martial arts skills and would be a nice test for “The Spider.” This is great news — the promotion had been trying to wrangle the services of Kang for more than a year. Job well done. |
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Originally Posted by A Black Guy
I'm just going to recycle my Halloween costume to blend in, so you might not see me.
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Fuck the Tapout guys.
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Huh?
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Real good news for the MW division!
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Live WEC 36 Weigh-in Results Options:  Email Article |  Printer Friendly Tuesday, November 04, 2008 15040 Sherdog.com reports from Hollywood, Fla., with live weigh-in results for WEC 36. Starting shortly after 5 p.m. EST Wednesday afternoon, check in as WEC featherweight champion Urijah Faber will step on the scale to make his clash with challenger Mike Thomas Brown official. Also, undefeated middleweight ace Paulo Filho will target 185-pounds for his rematch with Team Quest fighter Chael Sonnen. Urijah Faber (144.5) vs. Mike Thomas Brown (145.5)* Paulo Filho (192) ** vs. Chael Sonnen (184.5) Jens Pulver (146) vs. Leonard Garcia (145.5) Jake Rosholt (185.5) vs. Nissen Osterneck (184.5) Rob McCullough (155.5) vs. Donald Cerrone (156) David Avellan (185) vs. Aaron Simpson (184.5) Jose Aldo (146) vs. Jonathan Brookins (146) Carmelo Marrero (206) vs. Steve Steinbeiss (202) Danny Castillo (156) vs. Rafael Dias (155) Rani Yahya (137) vs. Yoshiro Maeda (135) *** *Mike Thomas Brown has been given two hours to make 145 pounds. **Paulo Filho has been given two hours to make 185 pounds. ***Although Rani Yahya came in 16 ounces over the limit at 137 lbs., Yoshiro Maeda has agreed to face the Brazilian without forcing him to drop another pound. |
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Unacceptable from a "champ", or anyone for that matter. Seven fucking pounds? |
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Yeah that is ridiculous. Could fuck the whole event up.
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Originally Posted by fufu
so is the filho fight a title fight?
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I was there live at the fights too, first time @ an event for me. The Cerrone vs. Razor Rob fight was a GREAT fight, flat out war. I figured they showed it on TV during the 20 minute break during the main card. I arrived late and missed the Yahya fight (one of the fights I didn't want to miss) and the Dias fight, showed up in the middle of the Marrero fight. I've got a bunch of pics I need to go through and I'll post em up tomorrow, but I realized I'm a horrible photographer. Plus we were on the floor, so it was hard to get good shots of the cage and by the time I figured out how to really use my camera, I killed my battery (sometime around the beginning of the Pulver fight). Avellan got KTFO!! Awesome shot, instant KO. Rosholt got the win, but took a beating in the process. I thought he was out a few times on his feet and his face looked that way too. He was on the canvas for a little bit after the fight was stopped, he really took the worst of it in a winning effort. A bit disappointed in how raw he looked, no way he's ready for the UFC. Thoroughly disappointed in Filho, just had no desire to be there. He looked to be out of shape, and gassed faster than it took him to walk out to the ring. First time I've been part of a "bull****" chant outside of Veterans Stadium and I don't know if you could hear it on TV, but he got booed to no end. Saw a lot of familiar faces in the crowd. I'm a solid 5'9" 200 and Marcus Aurelio is not much smaller than me. Amazing how those guys fight @ 155. Ryan Bader is enormous, was AT LEAST 240 lbs. And surprisingly, Tito Ortiz is kinda skinny. He's all head. Oh and Joe Silva must be 5'4" 120. Tiny little man. LOL. All in all it was an awesome experience, the people around us were cool as hell and the crowd for the most part, was very good. The only booing really came in the Filho fight, and they weren't booing Chael. He got a nice ovation when they announced his name. I'm still kinda shocked at the result of the main event, but Brown looked like a welterweight in there, and as soon as I saw his first punch, I was nervous for Urijah. Faber got caught with a left, then he threw a stupid spinning elbow and Brown put one right on his button. It seemed like the ref really gave Faber the benefit of the doubt on the ground too, but Brown swarmed and finished. I do know this though, all of the fighters that were in attendance were in the first level of the bleachers, without a doubt the best seats in the house. I wanted to get the "best" seats I could for my first experience and the floor was cool but for maximum viewing experience, I don't recommend it. |
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Nice Repro. Sick seats!
Bad few days for Filho. First he can't make weight by a long shot. Then he lets the fans down again by putting on a piss poor performance. They should make him fight a title fight next event (build one around him) or have to surrender his title. They gotta do something because he fucked WEC this week. Sonnen had a great game plan. He exposed Filho's stand up. I would have liked to see him punish Filho a little more (Filho's body was open all night) because he probably could have finished him off. His punches were pit pat for the most part. Seemed as though he didn't want to commit so much and get caught and taken down. Nice performance, although some believe it was boring I liked seeing his gameplan executed. And as Mir said, he's got a good foundation to build upon. |
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Faber was disappointing. It was clear from the get-go that he was a little cocky. I have no idea why he tried that spinning back elbow/fist but he paid for it. After Filho and Faber WEC must've been like
Pulver's stand up is a little overrated. Someone has to tell him that you can't just cover-up to block punches in MMA. Those 4 ouncers get right through. |
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WEC bonuses and awards for âFaber vs Brownâ By: MMAmania Photo: ESPN.com WEC 36: âFaber vs. Brownâ from the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel and Casino in Hollywood, Fla., on November 5 has come to a close. The highly anticipated event, which was put on pause when Hurricane Ike threatened the South Florida region back around September 10, was a success at the gate, drawing more than 5,225 fans and raking in $563,578 at the turnstiles. Several fighters on the card also made out like bandits with their respective performances. In particular, the new WEC Featherweight Champion Mike Brown, who knocked off the promotionâs posterboy, Urijah Faber, with a crushing first round technical knockout in the main event of the evening. The American Top Team (ATT) powerhouse earned âKnockout of the Nightâ for dethroning the âCalifornia Kid.â Unfortunately, those at home did not get to see the other matches that earned special honors. Donald Cerrone and Rob McCullough went to war for three rounds in the âFight of the Nightâ and Brazilian jiu-jitsu wizard Rani Yahya score âSubmission of the Nightâ ⌠both matches were on the under card. Oh well. Regardless, it was a solid night of action that produced several exciting fights that did air on Versus. And the fighters honored below more than deserved a little extra cold hard cash for their outstanding performances. Here are the special fight bonuses for WEC 36: Fight of the Night â Donald Cerrone and Rob McCulloughEach fighter received $7,500 for their efforts in addition to their respective base salaries, which we will pass along as soon as they become available. For complete WEC 36 results and fight-by-fight coverage of the main card action click here. |
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Originally Posted by fufu
Anyone buying the PPV this saturday?
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
I am going to miss it. I MUST attend a midnight showing of Rocky Horror for the school (I work it) and the call for me is 10:30pm. No way, no how can I catch this circus act.
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
For how long though? You know the fight won't come on until midnight or so.
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Originally Posted by A Black Guy
It IS a "midnight showing."
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Originally Posted by fufu
I likey Gina.
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Originally Posted by fufu
Anyone buying the PPV this saturday?
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Hell yeah. So does the red-head in the shots with her. They actually fought and she said that she could have beaten Gina had it not been for her humongous tits rubbing all over her face distracting her.
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
Cheech and Chong are in town. I'm not missing that after 37 years of wishing I could see them live. I then have other plans for the next several days, soooo it will be another torrent download for me. Now that FCZ is back up and running MMA torrents are easy again. The pain in the ass will be avoiding all MMA fans that wanna talk about the fight 'til after i see it.
Ehhhh ... I need an invite to mma-tracker.org since my account was disabled from my last walkabout. Anyway, I hope all is well with all of you ... |
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
Cheech and Chong are in town. I'm not missing that after 37 years of wishing I could see them live. I then have other plans for the next several days, soooo it will be another torrent download for me. Now that FCZ is back up and running MMA torrents are easy again. The pain in the ass will be avoiding all MMA fans that wanna talk about the fight 'til after i see it.
Ehhhh ... I need an invite to mma-tracker.org since my account was disabled from my last walkabout. Anyway, I hope all is well with all of you ... |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
If you find a torrent before I do, can you send it via PM? I am in the same boat and there isnt a thing I can do about it.
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Nice!! Have fun at that!!
Good to see ya poking your head in to say hello! |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
MAIN CARD (TELEVISED)
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Wow, first time I completely agree. Let it be a UFC I cant see to uphold such a miracle
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Originally Posted by chobby192
Hey guys,
Does any one know if Rich Franklin and Anderson Silvia fought again? I watched dvd of UFC 60 something in which Anderson defeated Rich. That day Rich didn't fight like the Rich Franklin I know of. |
sucks because i like randy a lot, but i knew he would lose.. lesnar is just too big and strong
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
They've fought 2 times, same outcome.
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
What i want to know now is...what exactly is Nog now?
Oh, want to know about my fucking night? Well, first off, I have a half ass girlfriend. All she does is bitch bitch bitch. So that set the tone nicely. Secondly, I ended up at HOOTERS to catch SOME fights before I left for school/work and what do ya know, the one girl that wants to fuck me is working. No, she couldnt work the last 11 times I was there, uh uh, tonight well work! Also, I dont know a lot of UFC fans in this town that know their shit except one and he was there too! So great, I couldve shot the shit with someone that actually knows a thing or two. Not only that, but he was there with the one girl I have been dying to fuck at the gym since I started going to UF. 52,000 girls and he brings the one I want. What a fucking night. |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Give it to Brock though, he came in prepared. His hands looked better, he didn't panic when Randy stood up twice, he took a couple good shots to the jaw.. Brock is more than just a big huge dude... He's gonna cause problems for everyone.
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
He did look a lot better. He still needs a lot of work on his stand up but it has definatly improved.
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Originally Posted by PreMier
i can already say within the next year lesnar and fedor will be the biggest fight. people will want to see that
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from acting. He really needed to keep his day job cuz acting? Not. |
Originally Posted by A Black Guy
<YAWN> No more Fedor talk until he's in the UFC, otherwise it's like talking about the tooth fairy.
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UFC 91 fighter paydays and salaries for ‘Couture vs Lesnar’ tops $1.1 million By: MMAmania MMAmania.com (UFC blog for UFC news, results, videos, rumors, fights, pics and tickets — MMAmania.com) has received the fighter payouts for UFC 91: “Couture vs. Lesnar” from the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) for the monster pay-per-view (PPV) event held on November 15 from the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas. And, as we reported before the show even started, Brock Lesnar was the big winner of the evening in more ways than one, pocketing a $450,000 base salary and prying the heavyweight title from Randy Couture’s grip with a second round technical knockout. “The Natural” will of course went home with more than just bumps and bruises — he now has an additional cool quarter million in his bank account, which could will more than likely help soften the blow of losing his belt … a little. Gabriel Gonzaga also cashed in, earning $110,000 for his lighting fast destruction of Josh Hendricks. Here are all the UFC 91 payouts: Brock Lesnar — $450,000 ($250,000 to show, $200,000 to win) Randy Couture — $250,000 Brock Lesnar defeated Randy Couture via technical knockout (strikes) in round two Kenny Florian — $80,000 ($ 40,000 to show, $40,000 to win) Joe Stevenson — $35,000 Kenny Florian defeated Joe Stevenson via submission (rear naked choke) in round one Dustin Hazelett — $28,000 ($14,000 to show, $14,000 to win) Tamdan McCrory — $10,000 Dustin Hazelett defeated Tamdan McCrory via submission (armbar) in round one Gabriel Gonzaga — $110,000 ($55,000 to show, $55,000 to win) Josh Hendricks — $8,000 Gabriel Gonzaga defeated Josh Hendricks via technical knockout (strikes) in round one Demian Maia — $40,000 ($20,000 to show, $20,000 to win) Nate Quarry — $25,000 Demian Maia defeated Nate Quarry via submission (rear naked choke) in round one Aaron Riley — $8,000 ($4,000 to show, $4,000 to win) Jorge Gurgel — $10,000 Aaron Riley defeated Jorge Gurgel via unanimous decision Jeremy Stephens — $16,000 ($8.000 to show, $8,000 to win) Rafael dos Anjos — $4,000 Jeremy Stephens defeated Rafael dos Anjos via knockout in round three Mark Bocek — $18,000 ($9,000 to show, $9,000 to win) Alvin Robinson — $7,000 Mark Bocek defeated Alvin Robinson via submission (rear naked choke) in round three Matt Brown — $16,000 ($8,000 to show, $8,000 to win) Ryan Thomas — $3,000 Matt Brown defeated Ryan Thomas via submission (armbar) in round two Keep in mind the salaries listed above do not include fight bonuses, sponsorships, percentages and other unofficial payments. It also does not include deductions for expenses such as insurance, taxes, etc. For example, the UFC often hands out extra cash for “Fight of the Night,” “Knockout of the Night” and “Submission of the Night.” To check out these figures for UFC 91 go here. The total base fighter payroll for the blockbuster PPV event, which attracted a near sellout crowd of 14,272 fans and a huge gate of $4.8 million, was $1,118,000. |
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Originally Posted by A Black Guy
Man, fuck the UFC.
Cutting John Fitch because he won't sign over exclusive rights to his name and likeness FOREVER for the UFC video game? Fuck that, just don't put him in the game, why throw him out? |
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Originally Posted by PreMier
ever since dana was on the scene, ufc is shady as fuck. thats why i was sad to see pride go
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Originally Posted by PreMier
ever since dana was on the scene, ufc is shady as fuck. thats why i was sad to see pride go
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Originally Posted by A Black Guy
Yeah, nothing shady about Pride...
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Originally Posted by A Black Guy
Yeah, nothing shady about Pride...
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Originally Posted by A Black Guy
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
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Originally Posted by bio-chem
yet more proof that the UFC is as retarded as don king.
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Originally Posted by CORUM
is chuck going up to HW or is randy dropping down again?
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
"Shogun" training for Mark Coleman:
I don't know.... Shogun sure doesn't look as lean as he did when he fought in PRIDE... I wonder why... |
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Originally Posted by fufu
Is Shogun fighting at HW? I just put two and two together...Coleman is huge compared to Shogun, he is huge in general. I don't see Coleman going to LHW and Shogun IMO is a natural MW.
If both Shogun and Henderson are victorious (or both lose), I'd love to see these two in the cage at LHW. |
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