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Posted by: ReproMan

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Interesting. He couldn't handle the LHW division.
His first fight is rumored to be TUF 4 alumni Charles McCarthy at the next UK event in a few months.



Posted by: ReproMan

Rumors — UFC 79

Date: Dec. 29, 2007
Location: Las Vegas, Nev.
Venue: Mandalay Bay Events Center
Broadcast: Pay-Per-View
MAIN CARDUNDERCARDMy picks in bold.

Can't believe I'm doing it, but I've got Chuck in this one. He came in @ 204 with his shoes on @ the weigh in and was visibly leaner than he's been since back in the day. Not to mention Silva's style matches up perfect for Chuck, and I see this ending in a violent KO.



Posted by: soxmuscle

Patriots, Celtics, Bruins, and UFC. Tonight will be fun.



Posted by: AKIRA

Silva has to win. He just has to.

GSP too.



Posted by: tallcall

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Silva has to win. He just has to.

GSP too.
I totally agree!



Posted by: AKIRA

I might catch a lot of shit for this but FUCK IT.

I think Silvas fight was rigged. Oh yeah, i said it. That fucker was so tired from the get go. Plus, miraculously, when Silva knocked Liddell on his ass, he let him up... Um is this the Silva I know?!

He also let so many of Liddell's jabs in! Was he really that 'off?'

Not to mention, every time Silva got some hits in, he let these jabs that seemed so easy to avoid in, resulting in a bloody left eye.

I really thought something was amiss or Silva was not even 75%.


But fuck it...I wanted to see the GSP fight more than anything...

And WOW. But was it really a fucking surprise?

Doublebase, how do you like Hughes now? He had nothing!

I truly went ape shit in HOOTERS when GSP went to Hughes the same way Hughes won over him.

However, he didnt tap right? But he did scream....? I need a vid.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Haven't seen the fights. But the only thing I can think of is that Silva is used to a non drug tested fight. Makes you wonder if it affects alot of the pride guys coming over here, after seeing there performance, when drug testing is implemented.



Posted by: fufu

Sokoudjou was a huge dissapointment.

Silva has an amazing chin, but lacked the normal ferocity, although he did have his moments. I thought he played it pretty well. Pretty good fight, I thought Chuck had him beat several times.

GSP was fucking amazing. If Hendo doesn't beat Anderson Silva I think GSP would be a good opponent of Silva is he decides to jump to the higher weight class.

I am getting a bit bored with the UFC, even though this was a decent card. I get a shitload of free events on HDnets which tend to be pretty interesting. Alot of the guys aren't fishing for a decision and want to prove themselves so they can get into a better org. When I think about it, there aren't a ton of guys that I really am interesting seeing that are in the UFC. That is besides the light weights, they put on the best fights.

Plus, 45 greenbacks per PPV? See ya! I will DL them from now on.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Elbows, spinning back fists, takedowns...

Way to go Chuck!



Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
Elbows, spinning back fists, takedowns...

Way to go Chuck!
He was impressive.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
I might catch a lot of shit for this but FUCK IT.

I think Silvas fight was rigged. Oh yeah, i said it. That fucker was so tired from the get go. Plus, miraculously, when Silva knocked Liddell on his ass, he let him up... Um is this the Silva I know?!

Silva would usually kick an opponent in the head at that point
(which is illegal in UFC), I don't think he knew what to do considering how rocked he was himself at that point.

He also let so many of Liddell's jabs in! Was he really that 'off?'

Liddell had a pretty sizable reach advantage and if there is anyone in the world that loops their punches more than Liddell, it's Silva.

Not to mention, every time Silva got some hits in, he let these jabs that seemed so easy to avoid in, resulting in a bloody left eye.

Every time Silva landed shots, Chuck landed shots. You could tell after the first exchange that Silva got caught in he was weary of Chuck's power.


I really thought something was amiss or Silva was not even 75%.

Silva was in perfect shape, Chuck just actually trained for this fight. He was noticeably leaner, and even had a good gameplan.


But fuck it...I wanted to see the GSP fight more than anything...

And WOW. But was it really a fucking surprise?

Doublebase, how do you like Hughes now? He had nothing!

I truly went ape shit in HOOTERS when GSP went to Hughes the same way Hughes won over him.

However, he didnt tap right? But he did scream....? I need a vid.
I thought the card was total shit until the Liddell fight. I picked Machida via UD, never expected Soku to be just as bad as Houston Alexander on the ground, but it happened. The HW fight was atrocious, just horrible. Clementi/Guillard went just like I thought it would and so did the title fight. So all in all, I was extremely disappointed in this card because there were absolutely no surprises except for Liddell's takedowns. Hughes vs. Serra would have been so much better. Oh well.



Posted by: AKIRA

I am not convinced that Silva was 100%, but what can you do?

As far as the card itself goes, I was a kinda bored too.

OH! :eeke2: The first fight! Anyone have the post fight interview when that guy was talking shit about the black guy? I saw what he did to him after he won...the whole 'fucking his head' gesture, then getting charged by the black guy, then the "bye bye" wave, but what did he say to Rogan? I cant hear shit at bars..

The other fights were just BLAH. I think its broken down to a science that if you walk into the UFC cage with a mask, youll lose. Sucks too, I like the Predator.

But George did exactly what Ive been talking shit about around town and it was AWESOME.

Any links? I wanna see it again. I raced home to find some uploaded vids before they got removed, but I didnt find any.



Posted by: ReproMan

Clementi told Joe that he hopes the UFC drops Melvin and something about all the shit he talked and he couldn't back it up. Which Joe replied, "we'll you talked a lot of shit too, but you backed it up."



Posted by: AKIRA

From what I heard, I laughed my ass off.

I watched the liddell/silva fight again. I do remember the fight chart before the fight and telling Falon that Silvas reach was a lot shorter than Liddells. I never knew it was that bad.

Wish it was 5 rounds.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
From what I heard, I laughed my ass off.

I watched the liddell/silva fight again. I do remember the fight chart before the fight and telling Falon that Silvas reach was a lot shorter than Liddells. I never knew it was that bad.

Wish it was 5 rounds.
Not only that, but Chuck had a 7 year age advantage too.



Posted by: ReproMan

Here's a link for all the fights: MMA TKO » Fight Videos



Posted by: AKIRA

Thanks!

Oh yeah, what did GSP say at the end of the fight when they wanted him to wear the belt?



Posted by: A Black Guy

Fedor vs. Hong Man Choi.

Get it while it's still up!

YouTube Video




Posted by: ReproMan

Wow, Fedor got BEAT UP. Damn it I wanted the freak to win.



Posted by: A Black Guy

Seriously, if you look like this after a minute and a half...





Posted by: PreMier

think about it though, he shouldnt even be fighting a dude that big. that guy is super heavyweight. he is 7'2" 360 or someshit.. i'll bet he hits hard as hell

im glad fedor won



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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i'll bet he hits hard as hell
Ya think? He weighs more than that tiger that mauled those people at the SF zoo on Christmas.



Posted by: AKIRA

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Originally Posted by PreMier View Post
think about it though, he shouldnt even be fighting a dude that big. that guy is super heavyweight. he is 7'2" 360 or someshit.. i'll bet he hits hard as hell

im glad fedor won
Agreed.

I am glad Fedor won too. A true Man vs. Giant fight.

Then again, was that beast a GOOD fighter or just a big human being?



Posted by: PreMier

probably just big. he might be a decent fighter, but fedor has a very high skill level



Posted by: ReproMan

He's actually an accomplished K1 kickboxer with wins over some big names including Semmy Schilt. He just has zero ground game. Zero.



Posted by: fufu

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He's actually an accomplished K1 kickboxer with wins over some big names including Semmy Schilt. He just has zero ground game. Zero.
Yes.

I am happy because I predicted a first round submission win by arm bar. w00t!
Let's bring on a really contender heavyweight!

I really like the looks of M-1, it reminds me so much of Pride. I like the way it is presented so much more. I still have yet to watch all of the fights.



Posted by: AKIRA

I wonder if Fedor gives a shit that he doesnt fight in UFC.



Posted by: fufu

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I wonder if Fedor gives a shit that he doesnt fight in UFC.
There was an article about his life on sherdog that explained alot of his actions and inactions.

This guy really scrapped for his fighting career and his country. He stays so close to where he was brought up. The UFC is a big business, big income, big advertising, fuck everyone else, soul sucking empire. Fedor said he felt he was giving up too much by signing the contract. I really don't blame him at all.



Posted by: AKIRA

Too much Pride can kill a man.



Posted by: tallcall

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Too much Pride can kill a man.
Not enough pride will make him boring though. Most of the good fighters have something more than money to fight for (I think pride's a pretty decent alternative).



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
There was an article about his life on sherdog that explained alot of his actions and inactions.

This guy really scrapped for his fighting career and his country. He stays so close to where he was brought up. The UFC is a big business, big income, big advertising, fuck everyone else, soul sucking empire. Fedor said he felt he was giving up too much by signing the contract. I really don't blame him at all.
Agreed. He didn't sell out.

The article talked about how most Russians feel that when someone gets famous that they let the money take over and they are no longer "one of them". Fedor manages to stay humble and true to his roots and I respect the hell out of him for it. He did right for himself, and his family. It's us that he did wrong, and we're selfish to feel that way.



Posted by: A Black Guy

Kelly Clap put me in her top friends on myspace and said that she was unhappy with her place on mine. So I go to her page and see that she's put me dead last in 16th...and Eddie Bravo is 10th.

I voice my displeasure at being behind Mr. Rubberguard and she acts like nobody knows of him but her. She says she sees him everyday and hasn't seen me in years, so I'm stuck behind the Twister for now.

So now myspace has come to the point where I have to beat a Gracie to get some attention. Fuck, 2008 is gonna be a tough year...



Posted by: ReproMan

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Kelly Clap put me in her top friends on myspace and said that she was unhappy with her place on mine. So I go to her page and see that she's put me dead last in 16th...and Eddie Bravo is 10th.

I voice my displeasure at being behind Mr. Rubberguard and she acts like nobody knows of him but her. She says she sees him everyday and hasn't seen me in years, so I'm stuck behind the Twister for now.

So now myspace has come to the point where I have to beat a Gracie to get some attention. Fuck, 2008 is gonna be a tough year...
I still have no idea who the fuck she is.



Posted by: A Black Guy

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I still have no idea who the fuck she is.

She used to strip while she was underage at Silhouettes and whatever the Exotic Underground turned into. Then she got some tits and moved south to Rachel's. Got some bigger tits and moved out to LA. Did shoots for Playboy, some bit parts on TV shows, etc. and I guess now hangs out with comedians, rockstars and BJJ guys.

But Nick fucked her 8 years ago and said she had "bad skin"...and he's the judge of talent in this town, so



Posted by: Doublebase

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Originally Posted by A Black Guy View Post
She used to strip while she was underage at Silhouettes and whatever the Exotic Underground turned into. Then she got some tits and moved south to Rachel's. Got some bigger tits and moved out to LA. Did shoots for Playboy, some bit parts on TV shows, etc. and I guess now hangs out with comedians, rockstars and BJJ guys.

But Nick fucked her 8 years ago and said she had "bad skin"...and he's the judge of talent in this town, so
pic?



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by A Black Guy View Post
She used to strip while she was underage at Silhouettes and whatever the Exotic Underground turned into. Then she got some tits and moved south to Rachel's. Got some bigger tits and moved out to LA. Did shoots for Playboy, some bit parts on TV shows, etc. and I guess now hangs out with comedians, rockstars and BJJ guys.

But Nick fucked her 8 years ago and said she had "bad skin"...and he's the judge of talent in this town, so
Yeah, I know the back history, I just can't place her pre-surgery.



Posted by: ReproMan

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pic?
Here's her myspace: MySpace.com - Kelly Princeton - 25 - Female - Los Angeles, California - www.myspace.com/inthecreases

Nick = AKIRA



Posted by: ReproMan

EliteXC Books Kimbo Slice vs. Tank Abbott for Feb. 16 Show

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Posted by MMA Junkie on January 4, 2008 at 10:48 am ET


A fight between Internet-brawler-turned-MMA-fighter Kevin “Kimbo Slice” Ferguson (1-0) and early UFC fighter David “Tank” Abbott (9-13) will take place after all.


The fight, which was originally booked for October but canceled when event organizers shut down the show, has been picked up by Pro Elite, Inc., which will feature the heavyweight bout as part of its Feb. 16 EliteXC show.


The news comes from ProElite.com blogger Sam Caplan.
The fight, which has been booked for the night’s main event, airs live as part of a Showtime broadcast that kicks off at 10 p.m. ET. The show is expected to take place in Miami, Fla. — possibly at the University of Miami Arena.


Abbott and Slice were originally booked to fight Oct. 12 at a Cage Fury Fighting Championships event. Organizers of the show vehemently denied the numerous rumors of the event’s cancellation — only to officially scratch the event days later.


Many other regional organizations jockeyed for the fight, but Slice instead signed a long-term deal with EliteXC. The 33-year-old fighter made his debut with the organization — and his official professional MMA debut — with a 19-second submission (via punches) of Bo Cantrell in November.


Abbott, one of the sport’s pioneers, began fighting professionally in 1995.


The 42-year-old fighter appeared in UFC events from UFC 6 to UFC 45 while making stops in PRIDE, Rumble on the Rock and other organizations. The fan favorite has had little success as of late, though, going 1-7 in his past eight fights and 3-10 in his past 13 fights.


The latest EliteXC card includes:
  • Tank Abbott vs. Kimbo Slive
  • Kyle Noke vs. Scott Smith
  • Gina Carano vs. TBA
  • Antonio Silva vs. TBA
  • James Thompson vs. TBA
I'm excited at least.

AND it will be in front of his home town fans! Shit dawg.



Posted by: AKIRA

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Originally Posted by A Black Guy View Post
She used to strip while she was underage at Silhouettes and whatever the Exotic Underground turned into. Then she got some tits and moved south to Rachel's. Got some bigger tits and moved out to LA. Did shoots for Playboy, some bit parts on TV shows, etc. and I guess now hangs out with comedians, rockstars and BJJ guys.

But Nick fucked her 8 years ago and said she had "bad skin"...and he's the judge of talent in this town, so
Fuck you. She did have bad skin at the time...and that was my way into her door.

She is still the worst lay of my life. But I had no problem getting hard with her.



Posted by: AKIRA

Finally, Kimbo vs. TANK!!!!



Posted by: AKIRA



I love it too Hughes. I love it too.

But what does he say that stops the fight?



Posted by: fufu





Posted by: fufu

aw shit, you fixed it.

I believe he says "I tap! I tap! I tap!"



Posted by: ReproMan

Report: Lyoto Machida Offered Fight with Tito Ortiz

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Posted by MMA Junkie on January 5, 2008 at 6:17 pm ET

Just hours after MMAjunkie.com (UFC News & Rumors - MMA News - UFC Fighters - UFC Event Recaps and Previews - MMAjunkie.com) reported an apparent offer to Heath Herring for a fight with Cheick Kongo, the news comes out that undefeated UFC light heavyweight Lyoto Machida (12-0 MMA, 4-0 UFC) has been offered a fight with former UFC champ Tito Ortiz (15-5-1 MMA, 14-5-1 UFC).

Ed Soares, the manager for Machida, today told MMAWeekly.com that his fighter had been offered a fight with Ortiz — yes, they’ve accepted — and that they’re simply awaiting word on whether Ortiz has accepted the fight.
There was no mention of a possible fight date.

Just a week ago, Machida posted a UFC 79 victory by dominating UFC newcomer and former PRIDE standout Rameau Sokoudjo. Using his usual counter-striking style while peppering his opponent with head and leg kicks, Machida shut down Sokoudjo and scored a second-round submission victory.

It was his 12th straight win, including his fourth straight in the UFC.
Ortiz, a 10-year veteran of the UFC and a former light heavyweight champion, recently finished taping “The Celebrity Apprentice” with Donald Trump. The reality/game show debuted this week and airs each Thursday on NBC for the next three months.

Ortiz recently stated that he has one fight left on his current deal but that he’s negotiating directly with UFC co-owners Frank and Lorenzo Fertitta — not UFC President Dana White — for a new contract.

A new deal would most likely need to be in place before the fight with Machida becomes official.

Ortiz hasn’t competed in the UFC since a July UFC 73 draw with Rashad Evans.

For the latest fight cards, check out the UFC Rumors section of MMAjunkie.com.
Machida would make Tito look silly. There's no way Tito is taking this fight.



Posted by: ReproMan

Luke Cummo: I’m Fighting Luigi Fioravanti at UFC 82

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Posted by MMA Junkie on January 7, 2008 at 12:13 pm ET


“The Ultimate Fighter 2” welterweight runner-up Luke Cummo (6-4 MMA, 3-2 UFC) will meet UFC veteran Luigi Fioravanti (11-3 MMA, 2-3 UFC) at UFC 82 — an event that takes place March 1 at Nationwide Arena in Columbus, Ohio.


Cummo posted the news on his official website early Monday morning, and MMAjunkie.com (UFC News & Rumors - MMA News - UFC Fighters - UFC Event Recaps and Previews - MMAjunkie.com) recently confirmed the bout.


The welterweight fight will likely take place on the undercard of UFC 82, which features a main-event title fight between UFC middleweight champ Anderson Silva and PRIDE champ Dan Henderson.


Since dropping a unanimous decision to Joe Stevenson at The Ultimate Fighter 2 Finale in November 2005, Cummo has gone 3-1 in the UFC, which has included recent back-to-back knockout victories over Josh Haynes and Ediberto de Oliveira. Cummo displayed a much-improved stand-up game in the victories, posting knockout victories for the first time in four years.
(More information about Cummo’s UFC 82 preparations can be found in Ken Pavia’s “Living with Luke” feature here on MMAjunkie.com.)


Fioravanti, part of the famed American Top Team, recently snapped a two-fight losing streak with a first-round TKO of Frank Camacho (2-1) at a Pacific X-treme Combat event in Guam. Prior to the victory, he suffered losses to two very tough UFC opponents: Jon Fitch (via second-round submission at UFC 68) and Forrest Petz (via unanimous decision to UFC Fight Night 10).


Fioravanti owns UFC victories over Solomon Hutcherson (The Ultimate Fighter 3 Finale) and Dave Menne (UFC Fight Night 7).




Posted by: ReproMan

UFC Fight Night: Stephan Bonnar to fight Matt Hamill?

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By: MMAmania

Stephan Bonnar (11-4) and Matt Hamill (3-1) could possibly fight during an upcoming UFC Fight Night SpikeTV special on April 2, according to the MMAWeekly.com rumors section.


It’s slated for the same show that will feature the lightweight showdown between Kenny Florian and Joe Lauzon as the main event.


Light heavyweights Bonnar and Hamill are both former contestants on The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) who have large fan followings thanks in large part to their participation on the mixed martial arts (MMA) reality series.


In fact, Bonnar is credited as half of the reason the UFC is currently so popular for his epic three-round war (a loss) with Forrest Griffin at the conclusion of the original TUF. He has had some issues outside of the Octagon since that time, but has returned to rattle off two straight wins.
Hamill is also perhaps best known for a loss, which came at UFC 75: “Champion vs. Champion” against local product, Michael Bisping. It’s safe to say that it was the most controversial decision in the short history of the promotion.


He was supposed to get an immediate rematch; however, Bisping decided to move down to middleweight after sustaining the first loss of his career to Rashad Evans during the main event at UFC 78: “Validation” in November while Hamill recovered from knee surgery.


If it comes about this is a tough fight for Bonnar because he struggled mightily to defend the takedown against Rashad Evans back in 2006. Evans is a sound wrestler and a case can be made that Hamill is even better.
We shall see.




Posted by: ReproMan

YouTube Video




Posted by: AKIRA

For what its worth, hes more well-spoken than he appears.

Tito wont win vs. Machida.



Posted by: ReproMan

I just watched a video with Tito and he said his next fight will more than likely be May 5th.



Posted by: AKIRA

So hes accepted?


Did anyone else know that asshole is on the Celebrity: The Apprentice?



Posted by: fufu

Tito v. Machida is a fight I am not in the least bit interested in.



Posted by: tallcall

Yay, Lauzon v Florian !



Posted by: tallcall

Also, I love Mat Hamill. I demand to see a rematch (I think Bisping is trying to get away from one by dropping into a lower weight class - I know it was the Rashad loss, but still ).



Posted by: IRM

Tito will be getting his ass kicked.



Posted by: PreMier

i bet tito rocks him



Posted by: ReproMan

I doubt Tito would even take that fight. Machida makes everyone look silly.



Posted by: IRM

Always hated Tito, and after the way Machida kicked Mufasa's ass last fight...should be fun.



Posted by: AKIRA

"Mufasa"



Posted by: tallcall

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"Mufasa"




Posted by: ReproMan

I have created an Ironmagazineforums.com team on MMAPlayground. For those of you that don't know what MMAPlayground is, it's a fantasy MMA site. You make the picks and are scored according to your choices. They also offer fantasy wagering as well. If you aren't a member click the link in my sig and sign up. PM me with your username so I can send you a group invite. I will send the few that are already signed up invites now.



Posted by: fufu

joined!



Posted by: ReproMan

Nice!!

I figured we might as well represent.



Posted by: IainDaniel

I will think about it



Posted by: fufu

Any of you guys have some hopeful match ups this year?

The biggest thing I am looking forward to in '08 are any of the top 10 LW's against eachother.

I'd also like to see GSP against any top tier fighter.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Any of you guys have some hopeful match ups this year?

The biggest thing I am looking forward to in '08 are any of the top 10 LW's against eachother.

I'd also like to see GSP against any top tier fighter.
I want to see Florian get a title shot.

Liddell/Wanderlei vs. Houston Alexander

Sylvia vs. Kongo

GSP vs. Serra II

a few more I can't think of.



Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
I want to see Florian get a title shot.

Liddell/Wanderlei vs. Houston Alexander

Sylvia vs. Kongo

GSP vs. Serra II

a few more I can't think of.
I definitely want to see Houston fight again, maybe a fight that goes to round 2 this time. A Houston Alexander vs. Thierry Sokoudjou would be interesting. Both their big time fight careers are very similar.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
I definitely want to see Houston fight again, maybe a fight that goes to round 2 this time. A Houston Alexander vs. Thierry Sokoudjou would be interesting. Both their big time fight careers are very similar.
Houston is fighting James Irvin @ UFC 83, should be a crazy slugfest!



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Any of you guys have some hopeful match ups this year?

The biggest thing I am looking forward to in '08 are any of the top 10 LW's against eachother.

I'd also like to see GSP against any top tier fighter.
BJ vs. Sherk
GSP vs. Fitch
A. Silva vs. D. Henderson (happening @ UFC 82)
Koscheck vs. Hughes
Machida vs. Anyone and Everyone



Posted by: fufu

Henderson and Silva is a dream match up of mine. If you go a few pages back you will see that I said the only good match for Silva would be Hendo if he dropped down. Go me!



Posted by: fufu

Actually I never said, I in fact said that Dan probably wouldn't drop down to MW. Don't go me.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Karo absolutely deserves a title shot this year too!

The fight night on the 23rd looks like a promising card.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
Karo absolutely deserves a title shot this year too!

The fight night on the 23rd looks like a promising card.
Yeah, it looks like one of the best Spike cards to date. I'm stoked.

Poor Karo is in limbo though. He was dominated by GSP already and Jon Fitch would more than likely beat Karo in the same manner. He's one of my favorite fighters, but as the welterweight division sits right now, he's outside of the top 5 looking in.


You're pretty knowledgeable Goodfella, you should join up on MMAPlayground and get your picks in!



Posted by: ReproMan

UFC 80

Date: Jan. 19
Location: Newcastle, England
Venue: Metro Radio Arena
Broadcast: Pay-Per-View
MAIN CARDPRELIMINARY CARD



Posted by: AKIRA

I just hope its not boring.

Since I dont care who wins what, maybe I can actually enjoy the fights this time around.



Posted by: ReproMan

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I just hope its not boring.

Since I dont care who wins what, maybe I can actually enjoy the fights this time around.
Do you work tomorrow? This airs @ 3PM, it's in England but it will be shown at 10PM too.



Posted by: AKIRA

Yeah. I hope Hooters has it at its regular time. Everyone there is an idiot, so I may be in luck!!



Posted by: ReproMan

So... Did anyone watch it yet??

I won't spoil it if ya haven't.



Posted by: AKIRA

Dont.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Great card tonight if you're a fan of KO's.

There was enough blood in the Stevenson fight to make one think someone in the fight died. Jeez...

Repro: I missed that post about the fantasy thing. I'll sign up in time for the fight night on Wed. Thanks.



Posted by: ReproMan

MMA TKO ďż˝ BJ Penn Vs Joe Stevenson Fight Video UFC 80

MMA TKO ďż˝ Gabriel Gonzaga Vs Fabricio Werdum Fight Video UFC 80

MMA TKO ďż˝ Kendall Grove Vs Jorge Rivera Fight Video UFC 80



Posted by: fufu

I did horrible on my picks this card...I enjoyed the fights though.

I feel bad for Stevenson. However, now I am rooting for BJ Penn to beat Sherk.



Posted by: goob

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Originally Posted by fufu View Post
I did horrible on my picks this card...I enjoyed the fights though.

I feel bad for Stevenson. However, now I am rooting for BJ Penn to beat Sherk.
I don't know, shrek is an ogre, he can hold his own. Might be a little green though....



Posted by: IRM

Anyone else notice that Gonzaga had "Condom Depository" (or something like that) written, in big letters, on his ass?



Posted by: IainDaniel

Why you looking at his ass?



Posted by: IRM

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
Why you looking at his ass?
Cause I'm a slave to product-placement.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Your product in his ass?



Posted by: IRM

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Your product in his ass?
Hehe, finally you got a good one in, homo!



Posted by: KelJu

MMA News Weekly - Tonya Harding and Butterbean on the same card

I'm going to watch Tonya Harding whoops some ass this up coming Saturday. I don't much give a shit abotu butterbean. I have read that Tonya isn't half bad. I wonder if she picked up some dirty moves in prison.



Posted by: ReproMan

YouTube Video






Posted by: A Black Guy

It's hard not to like Butterbean. Sure the guy is a freakshow, but it's been pretty obvious from his last few fights that he's learning and paying attention to his training.

Like 15 years ago, he was just another average joe who worked his way up the Toughman ladder, to become successful in professional boxing and make it all the way into Pride and still win is something that shouldn't be scoffed at.



Posted by: ReproMan

In case you haven't seen it:

Jones Jr. vs. Trinidad



Posted by: tallcall

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Originally Posted by IRM View Post
Anyone else notice that Gonzaga had "Condom Depository" (or something like that) written, in big letters, on his ass?
I noticed that too

Condom Depot - must be located around the bend!



Posted by: AKIRA

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
In case you haven't seen it:

Jones Jr. vs. Trinidad
Ooooh! Thanks! I always liked Jones Jr.



Posted by: A Black Guy

Awesome still.





Posted by: fufu

UFN tonight was pretty fucking awesome.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

I thought the main event sucked. I had it a draw 28-28.

Round 1 10-9 Burkman
Round 2 10-9 Swick
Round 3 9-9

Neither scored any points in the last round it was pretty awful. Reminded me of Koscheck vs. Sanchez. Let your fuckin hands go fellas! Burkman did the same shit in TUF.



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
I thought the main event sucked. I had it a draw 28-28.

Round 1 10-9 Burkman
Round 2 10-9 Swick
Round 3 9-9

Neither scored any points in the last round it was pretty awful. Reminded me of Koscheck vs. Sanchez. Let your fuckin hands go fellas! Burkman did the same shit in TUF.
I was yelling at the screen man, Swick just wouldn't pull the trigger. I agree with you, should have been a draw.



Posted by: A Black Guy

I gave it to Burkman since he pushed the pace.

I'm an idiot and missed the deadline for mmaplayground.



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by A Black Guy View Post
I gave it to Burkman since he pushed the pace.

I'm an idiot and missed the deadline for mmaplayground.
Step into my office, cuz you fuckin fired!!



Posted by: A Black Guy

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Step into my office, cuz you fuckin fired!!
Twice in a month, go figure...



Posted by: AKIRA

What do you guys think about Sherk vs. Penn? In detail...



Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
What do you guys think about Sherk vs. Penn? In detail...
BJ peppers Sherk with punches on the feet, frustrates Sherk with his god-like takedown defense and flexibility. Sherk attempts takedown after takedown but gets stuffed every time. BJ continues to score points with striking and wins rounds until BJ catches him coming in for a takedown with a knee right in the kisser, follows him to the ground, takes his back and chokes him out in the middle of the 3rd.



Posted by: AKIRA

I thought ud be gunning for Sherk.



Posted by: A Black Guy

Assuming Sherk isn't handicapped by being clean, I honestly can't see him losing with the current set of rules and judging criteria.



Posted by: AKIRA

Neither can I, even though I dont find him very exciting.



Posted by: tallcall

I'm voting for Sherk. I still like him better than BJ, although BJ certainly is impressive.



Posted by: A Black Guy

Quote:
Originally Posted by tallcall View Post
I'm voting for Sherk. I still like him better than BJ, although BJ certainly is impressive.
Are you voting with your head, your heart, or your groin?



Posted by: tallcall

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Black Guy View Post
Are you voting with your head, your heart, or your groin?
Is there a difference?

I just think sometimes BJ comes off as a little punk and needs to be taken down a notch (and this is one of those times). If he hadn't said that Sherk is dead and had been a little more respectful, I'd be all for him being the light-weight champion. Now I just want to see Sherk drag him out 25 minutes and get a decision that screws BJ out of the title (and doing all this while completely clean).

I know, I have a vengeance streak .



Posted by: ReproMan

Are you guys smoking crack? GSP absolutely steamrolled Sherk and most people you ask think BJ beat GSP, and that's before BJ decided that training for a fight might be a good idea. Sherk can't strike with BJ, won't be able to take BJ down and that's about it... BJ by GnP TKO or submission.



Posted by: tallcall

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Are you guys smoking crack? GSP absolutely steamrolled Sherk and most people you ask think BJ beat GSP, and that's before BJ decided that training for a fight might be a good idea. Sherk can't strike with BJ, won't be able to take BJ down and that's about it... BJ by GnP TKO or submission.
Again, I love BJ. He's a phenomenal fighter, but I don't like all the shit talking inside the cage (makes me think WWE). Sherk def has his hands full, but I would love to see him beat BJ up for 25 minutes just to shut him up a little (respect those that came before you - even if they are on drugs half the time or are complete wash-ups).



Posted by: ReproMan

MMA TKO » Tonya Evinger’s Crazy Pre Fight Interview





Posted by: AKIRA

ew.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Sherk can't strike with BJ, won't be able to take BJ down and that's about it... BJ by GnP TKO or submission.
I agree with the striking for sure. But I do think Sherk could possibly be more successful with his shoots then when he fought GSP. I still don't know how to call this one though. I guess I'll wait a while.



Posted by: Doublebase

I'm going with Penn. I think he is way more technical and looks a lot stronger.



Posted by: AKIRA

I think hes the same but in a different weight class.

Ive never been thrilled by either fighter, but after doing some research, how long has Sherk been a Lightweight? Only a couple of fights yes?



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
I think hes the same but in a different weight class.

Ive never been thrilled by either fighter, but after doing some research, how long has Sherk been a Lightweight? Only a couple of fights yes?
Yeah, he's only fought 2 times at 155. The thing is about these two is that they have 2 common opponents, GSP and Hughes. Sherk was outclassed by both, and we all know how BJ did.

BJ is just a freak of nature, and with proper conditioning I think he's unbeatable, especially @ 155.



Posted by: ReproMan

YouTube Video




Posted by: AKIRA

Hmm nice to hear from him as always, but sad to hear hes not taking shit seriously.



Posted by: fUnc17

BJ needs to stay on his feet. if he gets taken down, there is a high possibility of him gassing quickly. Sherk needs to take bj down, constrict his breathing and keep him moving so he gasses and starts making mistakes.

BJ by KO or RNC



Posted by: ReproMan

Who's everyone got?



UFC 81

MAIN CARD (TELEVISED)PRELIMINARY CARD (NOT TELEVISED)



Posted by: tallcall

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Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Who's everyone got?



UFC 81

MAIN CARD (TELEVISED)
  • Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
  • Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Tim Sylvia (for interim heavyweight title)
  • Ricardo Almeida vs. Rob Yundt
  • Jeremy Horn vs. Nate Marquardt
PRELIMINARY CARD (NOT TELEVISED)
  • Tyson Griffin vs. Gleison Tibau
  • Kyle Bradley vs. Chris Lytle
  • Marvin Eastman vs. Terry Martin
  • Tim Boetsch VS. David Heath
  • Rob Emerson vs. Keita Nakamura
I want to see Mir win over Lesnar (but to see Lesnar have a good showing), Nogueira win over Silvia (I just don't like Tim that much), Marquardt over Horn, I agree with you on the rest. This should be a good card.



Posted by: AKIRA

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Who's everyone got?



UFC 81

MAIN CARD (TELEVISED)
  • Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir
  • Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira vs. Tim Sylvia (for interim heavyweight title)
  • Ricardo Almeida vs. Rob Yundt
  • Jeremy Horn vs. Nate Marquardt
PRELIMINARY CARD (NOT TELEVISED)
  • Tyson Griffin vs. Gleison Tibau
  • Kyle Bradley vs. Chris Lytle
  • Marvin Eastman vs. Terry Martin
  • Tim Boetsch VS. David Heath
  • Rob Emerson vs. Keita Nakamura
I guess I just think Nog will win, but everything else is copied.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

UFC 81

MAIN CARD (TELEVISED)PRELIMINARY CARD (NOT TELEVISED)



Posted by: ReproMan

Ricky Williams, Charles Oakley, and fuckin Arturo Gatti are the Pros tonight on Pros vs. Joes!



Posted by: fufu

anyone know what the swing bout is for 81?



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Ricky Williams, Charles Oakley, and fuckin Arturo Gatti are the Pros tonight on Pros vs. Joes!
I saw clips of Gatti. He basically just schooled guys twice his size. He's on of the class acts in the sport of boxing. I've always been a fan.



Posted by: fUnc17

brock lesnar over frank mir and tim sylvia over nog, are you kidding me?



Posted by: Rubes

YouTube Video




Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by fUnc17 View Post
brock lesnar over frank mir and tim sylvia over nog, are you kidding me?
Care to place a wager?



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
I saw clips of Gatti. He basically just schooled guys twice his size. He's on of the class acts in the sport of boxing. I've always been a fan.
He KO'd the one guy in 1:30. It was hilarious.



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Care to place a wager?
Let me elaborate.

If Mir doesn't catch Brock in the first 2 minutes with a sub, he will lose. Mir has never had good cardio, and it's even worse since he's made his comeback. Don't expect Brock to just give Frank an arm. It will be competitive.

Tim vs. Nog: Tim will be successful keeping Nog at the end of his punches and stuffing Nog's "average at best" takedowns. This will more than likely be another 5 rounds snoozer with Tim taking a decision.



Posted by: A Black Guy

I'm so stoked about 82, I can't even think about 81 to wager on mmaplayground. Sweet Jesus what a card.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Black Guy View Post
I'm so stoked about 82, I can't even think about 81 to wager on mmaplayground. Sweet Jesus what a card.
I'm psyched on the next UFN, looks like a super good card.

I'd rather pay for that than 82, but I don't have to.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Let me elaborate.

If Mir doesn't catch Brock in the first 2 minutes with a sub, he will lose. Mir has never had good cardio, and it's even worse since he's made his comeback. Don't expect Brock to just give Frank an arm. It will be competitive.

Tim vs. Nog: Tim will be successful keeping Nog at the end of his punches and stuffing Nog's "average at best" takedowns. This will more than likely be another 5 rounds snoozer with Tim taking a decision.
I'm stumped on those picks. I got Nog and Mir but I wouldn't be suprised if they both lost.

Tim is a awkward opponent to face but I got Nog by sub.

Please god, don't let that be a decision.



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by A Black Guy View Post
I'm so stoked about 82, I can't even think about 81 to wager on mmaplayground. Sweet Jesus what a card.
Yeah 82 is awesome, UFN 13 looks even better IMO, but Silva vs. Henderson is a legitimate superfight.



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
I'm stumped on those picks. I got Nog and Mir but I wouldn't be suprised if they both lost.

Tim is a awkward opponent to face but I got Nog by sub.

Please god, don't let that be a decision.
Tim is so much better than people give him credit for. Nog will have to take Tim down to sub him and I'm not so sure that will happen. Nog has the chin advantage and the sub advantage. Tim has the reach advantage, the strength advantage, the striking advantage, and he has very good takedown defense. Nog's best chance to win this fight is to catch an overly aggressive Tim and pull off a sub, but we all know Tim is perfectly content keeping his distance and out pointing opponents in decisions.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Yeah 82 is awesome, UFN 13 looks even better IMO, but Silva vs. Henderson is a legitimate superfight.
Oh fuck yeah it is.



Posted by: bigss75

Yeah Im sill up in the air about buying tickets for the UFN because I heard unless you get the expensive tickets you can really see much, but at the same time they don't come to Colorado often



Posted by: tallcall

I'm just not a big fan of Silvia. I'd much rather watch it go to the ground and see them fight for control and submissions, so I root for Nog to win it as quickly as possible (If he goes past the second round he's probably screwed though).



Posted by: ReproMan

Chuck Liddell vs. Mauricio “Shogun” Rua Possible

Posted by MMA Junkie on February 1, 2008 at 11:23 am ET


Chuck Liddell, a former UFC light heavyweight champion who rebounded from back-to-back losses with a win over Wanderlei Silva in December, could next fight Mauricio “Shogun” Rua at either UFC 84 on May 24 (Las Vegas) or UFC 85 on June 14 (in London).


News of the potential bout first surfaced in a recent SportsIllustrated.com interview with Liddell.


Additionally, MMAjunkie.com (UFC News & Rumors - MMA News - UFC Fighters - UFC Event Recaps and Previews - MMAjunkie.com) has confirmed with a source close to Keith Jardine — a Team Jackson fighter who scored a decision victory over Liddell in September — that he will likely fight someone other than Liddell in his next fight. A Jardine-Liddell rematch had been rumored for much of the past month.


Liddell, who won the 205-lb. title at UFC 52, made four successful title defenses before a loss to Quinton Jackson this past May. He then dropped a split decision to Jardine in September. However, in a fight that was one of the most-anticipated in the sport’s history, he defeated former PRIDE champion and recent UFC signee Silva via unanimous decision in the co-main event of UFC 79.


The 26-year-old Rua made his octagon debut at UFC 76, but the Brazilian suffered an upset submission loss (via rear-naked choke) to Forrest Griffin. Prior to the bout, he had won 12 of 13 fights. Rua underwent knee surgery after the fight but said he wasn’t using it as an excuse for the loss.


According to the SI.com piece, Liddell and his camp are pushing for the fight to take place at UFC 84, which takes place at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, rather than an overseas event.



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
UFC Quick Quote: Brock Lesnar has big hands — needs 4XL gloves

By: MMAmania
“… [Brock Lesnar] is only the second man in the history of combat sports in Nevada to wear size 4XL gloves, the other being South Korean giant Choi Hong-man, who is 7-3 and 367 pounds.”
– Dave Meltzer from Yahoo!Sports.com reports on the gigantic size of Brock Lesnar (6′3″ 265+ pounds) and his chances of defeating Frank Mir at UFC 81: “Breaking Point” tonight. According to the report, Lesnar will pocket $450,000 with a win ($250,00 to show, $200,000 to win). That’s more guaranteed — and promised — money than any other fighter on the card. Lesnar has just one professional mixed martial arts fight to his credit. Cha-ching …




Posted by: A Black Guy

The weigh-in pictures are scary. It looks like Lesnar's elbow comes all the way down to his waist.



Posted by: david



I'm looking forward to seeing this fight!

Damn, I didn't realize that these guys get paid that much just for show!



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by david View Post
I'm looking forward to seeing this fight!

Damn, I didn't realize that these guys get paid that much just for show!
They don't really. That makes him on of the top 2 or 3 paid fighters in the UFC.



Posted by: david

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
They don't really. That makes him on of the top 2 or 3 paid fighters in the UFC.

Wow and he's only fought one other time?? I guess it does pay to be a WWE former wrestler! He should be gratefully that they gave him a name instead of being a bitch to McMahon whining about his contract, etc.

Then again, I don't know the true story about McMahon and Lesnar fall out!

His wife is drop dead gorgeous, though!



Posted by: ReproMan

Well, Lesnar kicked ass for a minute 29 then got sub'd.

Tim kicked ass for 12 minutes then got sub'd.

Should have bet me.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Nog is a pretty damn shitty champ IMO. Besides his heart and BJJ game he's got nothin. I'm predictin he'll have a really short stint. I hate the type of fighters who only go for the take down and completely refuse to exchange.



Posted by: david

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Well, Lesnar kicked ass for a minute 29 then got sub'd.

Tim kicked ass for 12 minutes then got sub'd.

Should have bet me.
Why do Shamrock, Tank and Lesnar think they can do the conversion thing. Sure Tank and Shamrock has experience but for these comeback and stuff... they always get stuffed!

As for Lesnar... just goes to show... too much hype and all it took was the leg lock submission to see him tap!

Good for Mir!

I think the highlight of that match was seeing Undertaker and Stone Cold! LMAO!!!



Posted by: ReproMan

Gotta give Nog credit. He took Tim's best and finished it. He called out Randy at the end, I think Randy has to take that fight.

Lesnar looked good, but made a rookie mistake, he'll be back and better just needs to chill.



Posted by: PreMier

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
Nog is a pretty damn shitty champ IMO. Besides his heart and BJJ game he's got nothin. I'm predictin he'll have a really short stint. I hate the type of fighters who only go for the take down and completely refuse to exchange.
he is a shitty champ because he is a submission artist? he was throwing down the whole first round, and why would he want to play tims game? he played his own and won..



Posted by: AKIRA

Quote:
Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
I guess I just think Nog will win, but everything else is copied.
Oops! Who called it? Who called it? I think..I did.



Posted by: AKIRA

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
I'm stumped on those picks. I got Nog and Mir but I wouldn't be suprised if they both lost.

Tim is a awkward opponent to face but I got Nog by sub.

Please god, don't let that be a decision.
You called both fights!

I didnt think Lesnar was going to lose, but I guess his arrogance got the best of him. I am with Repro and am hoping that he doesnt leave.

Tim did his usual game. It looked like Nog was getting knocked out here and there, but if the fucker went with Fedor and didnt get knocked out, I was damned if Tim would.

I have to say Nog's take downs didnt seem all that great, BUT, they worked and they worked quickly.

I was quite fucking pleased to see Sylvia lose and to know I predicted it. (whoops wrong forum!)

Is it just me or was Jeremy Horn's fight the best?



Posted by: AKIRA

Did anyone watch this at a bar? Did a lot of rednecks leave after Lesnar lost like Hooters's hicks did?

Sorry for the 3rd reply.



Posted by: Doublebase

Vids?



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier View Post
he is a shitty champ because he is a submission artist? he was throwing down the whole first round, and why would he want to play tims game? he played his own and won..
He's one dimensional as hell. I do give him credit for being one of the best jiu jitsu practitioners in MMA though. His cardio sucks, he looked like he was about to tumble down on his own the whole fight. His standup is terrible. He just doesn't come off as a dedicated fighter to me for some reason.

Throwing down? He was throwing a baby jab and getting caught every three seconds with a huge right and all kinds of combos. If you can get hit that easy, you obviously haven't been training in striking much. After that he was making horrible shoots in attempt to get Sylvia down. Tim stuffed everyone until the end. Worst kind of fights.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Tim isn't the most exciting Champ either though.



Posted by: david

Quote:
Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
Did anyone watch this at a bar? Did a lot of rednecks leave after Lesnar lost like Hooters's hicks did?

Sorry for the 3rd reply.
I watched it at a bar... LMAO!! Even though the bar is next to a redneck neighborhood, the bar is more upscale so more college kids and older people were there. 25% of the people left and then, in rolled more college kids.



Posted by: ReproMan

Ok, stop the back patting AKIRA. You had no idea how Nog was going to win, you just hate Tim so you picked against him. Tim was beating that ass until Nog pulled guard and swept him. I figured Tim would be able to do what he did for the first 2 rounds, he got caught.

Brock was absolutely beating the shit out of Mir until Mazzagatti stopped the fight and gave Brock the most bizzare point deduction I have ever seen. He basically saved Mir's ass and let the cobwebs clear. Had Brock just been patient, he would have been too sweaty in a few more minutes for Mir to hold on to any lock and Mir was already gassed in the interview with Joe. Brock is defintely for real and at this point I'd pick him against everyone in the division minus Nog.

How did Brock's arrogance get the best of him? He went in with a gameplan and got caught. He was very humble after the fight and the crowd cheered accordingly.

Vids:

Lytle vs. Bradley


Horn vs. Marquardt

Sylvia vs Nog

This is shitty:
Lesnar vs. Mir




Posted by: Goodfella9783

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Brock was absolutely beating the shit out of Mir until Mazzagatti stopped the fight and gave Brock the most bizzare point deduction I have ever seen.
Yeah that was ridiculous. I think he hit him with one small hammer fist on on the back of the head and didn't even get warned before the point deduction. Lesnar could've finished Mir off right there.



Posted by: ReproMan

On another note, huge disappointment Terry Martin lost again. He showed some real potential then took a huge shit. Boring ass fight.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Someone has got to make a GIF of that Boetsch guy throwing Heath like a rag doll.



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
Someone has got to make a GIF of that Boetsch guy throwing Heath like a rag doll.
Haha, hell yeah that was sick. That's only like the 3rd or 4th time I've seen a takedown KO someone.



Posted by: Doublebase

Thanks for posting the fights. Brock Lesnar sure is fun to watch. I hope he stays with the UFC.



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doublebase View Post
Thanks for posting the fights. Brock Lesnar sure is fun to watch. I hope he stays with the UFC.
It cut off the beginning of the fight, but his takedown was fuckin sick. He moves like a man 100lbs lighter than him. He'll be back.



Posted by: PreMier

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
He's one dimensional as hell. I do give him credit for being one of the best jiu jitsu practitioners in MMA though. His cardio sucks, he looked like he was about to tumble down on his own the whole fight. His standup is terrible. He just doesn't come off as a dedicated fighter to me for some reason.

Throwing down? He was throwing a baby jab and getting caught every three seconds with a huge right and all kinds of combos. If you can get hit that easy, you obviously haven't been training in striking much. After that he was making horrible shoots in attempt to get Sylvia down. Tim stuffed everyone until the end. Worst kind of fights.


your crazy.. i totally disagree with you. nogs standup is decent at best, but he can still stand and fight, he got a few good hits on sylvia. take into account that sylvia has a huge reach advantage, did you really expect him to fight him, and win like that? give me a break..

sylvia has some of the best takedown defense in the ufc. he knows that his game is standing up, and thats why he he works on it so much, just like chuck liddell. did you see the final takedown? it was a pretty technical sweep, i dont know how else you would take a guy down thats 6'8"



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier View Post
your crazy.. i totally disagree with you. nogs standup is decent at best, but he can still stand and fight, he got a few good hits on sylvia. take into account that sylvia has a huge reach advantage, did you really expect him to fight him, and win like that? give me a break..

sylvia has some of the best takedown defense in the ufc. he knows that his game is standing up, and thats why he he works on it so much, just like chuck liddell. did you see the final takedown? it was a pretty technical sweep, i dont know how else you would take a guy down thats 6'8"
Check out the post fight press conference. Notice how Tim's face doesn't have a scratch on it and Nog can barely see out of his right eye. That wasn't a takedown either, he pulled guard and swept him. Ask Randy how to take Tim down, he did it at least 6 times in their fight.

Nog said he was "dizzy" for the whole 1st round and most of the 2nd after that knockdown and said time and time again how heavy Tim's hands are. Tim probably could have finished that fight right there had he not respected Nog's ground game so much. Either way, it was a good finish.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

Quote:
Originally Posted by PreMier View Post
take into account that sylvia has a huge reach advantage, did you really expect him to fight him, and win like that? give me a break..
Yes. Seen it plenty of times both in boxing and MMA. A taller fighter vs. a shorter fighter... It's called fighting on the inside. Nog's standup strategy was garbage. He was walking around like an ogre throwing the ugliest jab I've ever seen, with his head straight up in the air, followed by nothing. His whole goal was obviously to get Tim down. Why not polish the boxing skills a little bit sort of like Rampage so the stand-up game opens up opportunities to get the fight to the ground? If he could work his way on the inside with some hand work he'd leave Tim completely vulnerable to any takedown attempt. He'd be so much more of a complete fighter and also avoid taking this type of punishment.



Posted by: Goodfella9783

For example:
YouTube Video




Posted by: A Black Guy

ooOoOoOOOooOoo

YouTube Video




Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
Nog is a pretty damn shitty champ IMO. Besides his heart and BJJ game he's got nothin. I'm predictin he'll have a really short stint. I hate the type of fighters who only go for the take down and completely refuse to exchange.
Completely refused to exhange?

Negative.

I think Nog looked sloppy and slow on the feet but I give him credit, he got the win with some nice ground work.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodfella9783 View Post
Someone has got to make a GIF of that Boetsch guy throwing Heath like a rag doll.
Funny thing about that.

I don't remember the Refs name, but the guy who always prematurely calls fights. Lets Heath just take a fucking beating, just kept watching him take a pounding. I was thinking WTF.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
You called both fights!

I didnt think Lesnar was going to lose, but I guess his arrogance got the best of him. I am with Repro and am hoping that he doesnt leave.

Tim did his usual game. It looked like Nog was getting knocked out here and there, but if the fucker went with Fedor and didnt get knocked out, I was damned if Tim would.

I have to say Nog's take downs didnt seem all that great, BUT, they worked and they worked quickly.

I was quite fucking pleased to see Sylvia lose and to know I predicted it. (whoops wrong forum!)

Is it just me or was Jeremy Horn's fight the best?

Yeah, I was so psyched by the wins. I had Mir by rnd 1 sub and Nog by rnd 2 sub, but he finished in the 3rd. So fucking excited to see those happen, I was so nervous to see what was going to go down.

This was a great card. The Griffin fight was sick. Anyone know if that was fight of the night? I am suprised Griffin got taken down at will so many times, but he quickly got back on his feet most of the time.

I def would rate the Griffin Gleison fight over Horn Marquardt.



Posted by: ReproMan

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
Yeah, I was so psyched by the wins. I had Mir by rnd 1 sub and Nog by rnd 2 sub, but he finished in the 3rd. So fucking excited to see those happen, I was so nervous to see what was going to go down.

This was a great card. The Griffin fight was sick. Anyone know if that was fight of the night? I am suprised Griffin got taken down at will so many times, but he quickly got back on his feet most of the time.

I def would rate the Griffin Gleison fight over Horn Marquardt.
Fight of the night was Nog vs. Sylvia, sub went to Mir and KO went to Lytle. They all got 60K, biggest bonus yet.



Posted by: fufu

I'm confused by Mazzagatti's point deduction to Lesnar. I can recall GSP pounding away at the back of Hughes's head and getting 2 or 3 warnings.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by ReproMan View Post
Fight of the night was Nog vs. Sylvia, sub went to Mir and KO went to Lytle. They all got 60K, biggest bonus yet.
A bit suprised Slyvia and Nog was FOTN. Tim was controlling 80% of the time.

I like fight of the nights to go to two guys who both get great shots in on eachother while going into the 3rd round. A little more even between the opponents.

Tim and Nog basically went from extreme ownage on the feet to extreme ownage on the ground.

Lytle def. gets the KO of the night, he streamrolled that guy.



Posted by: IainDaniel

Yeah that was a weak call. No warning. And it wasn't even a hard shot. Mir just rolled his head while getting fed.



Posted by: ReproMan

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I'm confused by Mazzagatti's point deduction to Lesnar. I can recall GSP pounding away at the back of Hughes's head and getting 2 or 3 warnings.
It was complete bullshit and it messed with Brock's momentum. He had Mir stunned there. Oh well.



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It was complete bullshit and it messed with Brock's momentum. He had Mir stunned there. Oh well.
Yeah, quite a momentum killer it was.



Posted by: PreMier

hindsight is 20/20. im just going to respectfully disagree with repro and goodfella. its easy to sit back and analyze the fight from the couch, and say 'he shoulda done this or that' etc. its easy to say what sghould be done when your not in the fight. IMO it was a good fight, nogs standup looked good against tim (even though tims is much better), and the better all around fighter won.



Posted by: AKIRA

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hindsight is 20/20. im just going to respectfully disagree with repro and goodfella. its easy to sit back and analyze the fight from the couch, and say 'he shoulda done this or that' etc. its easy to say what sghould be done when your not in the fight. IMO it was a good fight, nogs standup looked good against tim (even though tims is much better), and the better all around fighter won.
Ill agree with your post, but I dont see a real big disagreement with you and them.

Nog seemed like a lousy striker, but he didnt get knocked out, so I dont care how many shots he took if he ended up submitting him. I mean, isnt that youd hope for if youre bound to lose to a decision anyway?

Nog's takedowns did appear...pretty fucking sloppy, but apparently quantity overruled quality, cuz one of those shitty takedowns worked against someone with great takedown defense.

Its true. I hate Tim. So I apologize if I felt GOOD about him getting submitted. Didnt know it would upset people that I was proud to be right about a prediction for once.

As far as Brock's fight went, I loved his aggression and hope to see more of it. He really is a beast. If this fight happened again tonight, it could very well go to Brock.

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This was a great card. The Griffin fight was sick. Anyone know if that was fight of the night? I am suprised Griffin got taken down at will so many times, but he quickly got back on his feet most of the time.
I thought it was entertaining as well. Tebau(sp?) looked huge compared to Griffin.



Posted by: fufu

Just throwing this out there -

In MMA dodging the stand up game can be compared to dodging the ground game. Not willing to go to the ground is the same as not willing to stand up and exchange in MMA.

It just happens a fight starts standing up.

Obviously people have definite strengths so you can't blame them for trying to fight in their particular modus operandi. This results in some shitty fights given certain circumstances but that is just something that you have to go along with.



Posted by: A Black Guy

Interesting opinion from a member of another forum.

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Couture looks pathetic now... I really liked the guy before, but the shit he's pulling disgusts me... Lets take a closer look at his career in the last 6 years:

-He was fighting in UFC HW division. Gets owned twice, back-to-back by good HW's (Ricco and Josh). Decides that HW division is too much for him and drops to LHW.

-Gets lucky against Chuck, then pulls a decision against Tito. Then looses to Vitor, gets KTFO-ed TWICE by Chuck. Decides that LHW division is also too strong for him and retires.

-Then he waits untill most good HW's leave UFC, and when the division is at it's weakest, with the champion seriosly injured, begs Dana for a title shot. Dana gives him the shot, straight out of being KTFO-ed into retirement. He pulls of a decision win against sick, injured, one dimensional jabber. Then he beats one of the most overrated fighters in the HW div EVER. And decides that hes too good for the UFC's HW div, and refuses to defend his title.

Sickening... He should be put into the UFC Hall of Shame.. If there was such a thing.




Posted by: tallcall

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I want to see Mir win over Lesnar (but to see Lesnar have a good showing), Nogueira win over Silvia (I just don't like Tim that much), Marquardt over Horn, I agree with you on the rest. This should be a good card.
I think I did pretty well picking them this time .

I'm very happy to see a Mir v Nog title fight in the future .

Also, I love Griffin, but Tibau did alright too (I hate it when I like all the guys in the card - this card was one of them), I have to root for my team when I can.

The next fight night is right before my birthday, so for my birthday I want the following:

1. Lauzon wins over Florian (really going to be a treat either way!)

2. Thiago "Pitbull" Alves wins over Karo (I can't stand Karo, hope Thiago rocks him!)

3. Matt Hamil Wins or Ties with Stephan Bonnar

4. Aurelio wins over Fisher (probably won't happen, but it's my birthday - I love them both so it doesn't really matter)

5. Din Thomas wins over Josh Near (again, I like them both, but I'm pulling for my team)

6. Guida wins over Schiavo (who the hell is Schiavo?)

7. Tommy Spears wins over Anthony Johnson (I predict this to be a KO)


There, that is what I want to see!



Posted by: AKIRA

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Interesting opinion from a member of another forum.
I actually thought a related assumption, but I kept my mouth shut cuz I thought I would just be speaking out of my ass. I still think Couture is good though.



Posted by: IainDaniel

So Crocop is done in the UFC.

Signed in Japan with a K1 group called Dream



Posted by: fufu

Free WEC card tonight on Versus.

Definitely worth a watch.



Posted by: A Black Guy

As expected, another entertaining event.

According to the pbp, on the undercard there was a finish by flying armbar.



Posted by: fufu

Yeah, WEC has been exciting. The fans are the fucking worse though(for this last card), they boo-ed so much during the LW title bout. Those guys set a pretty good pace. Whenever they stepped back to gather themselves the audience would boo.

Steve Mazzagatti continues to be the most awkward ref in the US...I didn't know fighters could call time out.



Posted by: A Black Guy

I did like the boos for Tapia since he came in with only the Mexican flag.

At least be like Tito and carry both flags.



Posted by: fufu

I didn't catch that. I started watching about halfway into that fight.



Posted by: fufu

Tonight Strikeforce card on HDnet fights 10:30-1:30.

I'll be DVRing this mofo.



Posted by: AKIRA

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Free WEC card tonight on Versus.

Definitely worth a watch.
God dammit, howd I miss this?

Eh. Vs. will play the shit out of it anyway in the future..



Posted by: Doublebase

Anyone able to find the Tank Abott/Kimbo Slice fight? I heard Kimbo recked him.



Posted by: AKIRA

Yeah...it has to be somewhere on this site. I watched it here first, then commented it on anothe forum (or both).

Tank is not only a has been, hes a never was. He never takes training seriously, so fuck him. I hope he retires or loses every fight in the future.



Posted by: fufu

Ok, there was a thread about UFC 82 in the sports section I thought...wtf happened to it.



Posted by: Doublebase

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Ok, there was a thread about UFC 82 in the sports section I thought...wtf happened to it.
I put the wrong like in it and had it deleted. You can start another one if you would like. Maybe with a poll?



Posted by: fufu

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I put the wrong like in it and had it deleted. You can start another one if you would like. Maybe with a poll?
lawl

oh well

No biggy I just thought I made a good post in it comparing Hendo and Silva...all gone!!



Posted by: tallcall

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lawl

oh well

No biggy I just thought I made a good post in it comparing Hendo and Silva...all gone!!
I'm sure it was a good one Fufu......



Posted by: AKIRA

I am routing for Herring and Henderson...but only cuz theyre American.



Posted by: tallcall

I like Henderson and Silva, so I'm on the fence.








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