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Posted by: Goodfella9783

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Tank is not only a has been, hes a never was.
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Posted by: tallcall

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Posted by: fufu

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I'm sure it was a good one Fufu......
I thought so.


Posted by: AKIRA

Any links to the fights? I saw the 2nd round of the Henderson fight and I saw the Evan Tanner fight...


Posted by: Doublebase

I thought they were all good fights. I was really drunk last night though. I can't even tell you what happened during the Hendo/Silva fight. My frikin head hurts. Don't do a power hour. I have to go get engagement pictures today This sucks. I do remember losing money on the Kongo fight and getting gipped. Kongo clearly won that fight. Bunch of bs.


Posted by: IainDaniel

I wouldn't say Kongo clearly won that fight. It was even, could have gone to either fighter. Heath Finished strong, and I think that is what determined the judgment. I wouldn't want to be feeling Kongo's ribs and obliques this morning, they took a serious beating.


Posted by: A Black Guy

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I wouldn't want to be feeling Kongo's ribs and obliques this morning
You'd rather caress them later?


Posted by: IainDaniel

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You'd rather caress them later?
Hmmm interesting.


Posted by: tallcall

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You'd rather caress them later?



Posted by: AKIRA

So no links yet huh?

Damn...I saw the hendo/silva fight on youtube THAT night...


Posted by: AKIRA

Now that Ive seen the fights...

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I thought they were all good fights. I was really drunk last night though. I can't even tell you what happened during the Hendo/Silva fight. My frikin head hurts. Don't do a power hour. I have to go get engagement pictures today This sucks. I do remember losing money on the Kongo fight and getting gipped. Kongo clearly won that fight. Bunch of bs.
I think they were all pretty good too. Though I dont think Kongo "clearly" won, he did make a great effort. However, Id say it was pretty clear why Heath won.

Now I just need links to the undercard fights.


Posted by: fufu

From the moment Henderon rolled and gave his back I knew Silva would get that body triangle and work for that choke....

Dan just left his chin up, wtf.

Good fight, Anderson is the best MW in the world.


Posted by: fufu

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I thought they were all good fights. I was really drunk last night though. I can't even tell you what happened during the Hendo/Silva fight. My frikin head hurts. Don't do a power hour. I have to go get engagement pictures today This sucks. I do remember losing money on the Kongo fight and getting gipped. Kongo clearly won that fight. Bunch of bs.
I disagree, I agree with the split decision. Herring was more aggresive, had a few very nice reversals on the ground, accumulated more strikes and did more overall damage. He had two very dominant controlling sessions on the ground when Kongo never really had a clear domination on the ground. Kongo took it the ground but Herring won from the ground.

From the way you stated your opinion you seem to think Kongo should have gotten a UD...I just don't see that at all.


Posted by: A Black Guy

It should have been a UD for Herring, but Cecil Peoples played the black card once again...


Posted by: fufu

Josh Koschek looked amazing.


Posted by: IainDaniel

Yeah that was a good fight, I thought he was done after the first 20 secs. But it seems like the second shot knocked him back sober LOL.

That Hazlett kid was pretty impressive for 21.


Posted by: AKIRA

Dammit...still no links to the undercard fights? Ill check again...

fufu, yes I pretty much agree with everything you said. To tell you the truth, I think he won all the rounds. I was a lil surprised to not hear "Unanimous."


Posted by: fufu

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Dammit...still no links to the undercard fights? Ill check again...

fufu, yes I pretty much agree with everything you said. To tell you the truth, I think he won all the rounds. I was a lil surprised to not hear "Unanimous."
dailymotion has them, as of last night anyway.

Worth checking out.


Posted by: fufu

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Yeah that was a good fight, I thought he was done after the first 20 secs. But it seems like the second shot knocked him back sober LOL.

That Hazlett kid was pretty impressive for 21.
Yeah, Josh is a tough guy. The guy went three rounds with GSP without getting roughed up too bad. Hazelett was definitely impressive for 21. Plus Koschek is going to be a tough opponent for anyone in the WW div.

There are a bunch of WW guys that Hazelett will match up well with.


Posted by: AKIRA

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dailymotion has them, as of last night anyway.

Worth checking out.
I saw all of them except Koschecks on another website. I found it on google

But I checked dailymotion the night of the fights and afterwards. I know they had them up at one point, but they were taken down with the swiftness.

Ill look again now.


Posted by: Richie1888

any idea who chuck is getting his next fight ?


Posted by: PreMier

i heard it was going to be maricuo rua(sp) shogun


Posted by: fufu

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i heard it was going to be maricuo rua(sp) shogun
It was, but he injured his knee again, so he is out.


Posted by: AKIRA

Jesus christ. These PRIDE fighters are so fragile.


Posted by: Richie1888

whos an availbale replacement

i see jardine will be fighting silva thats interesting fight ( i sound like joe rogan )


Posted by: fufu

Rashad Evans now fighting Chuck at 85.

Chuck by round 2 tko.


Posted by: AKIRA

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whos an availbale replacement

i see jardine will be fighting silva thats interesting fight ( i sound like joe rogan )
Ahhh, good! I dont want to give up on wanderlei (sp?) yet. He, Minotaur, and Herring are the only PRIDE fighters I am on the fence with deciding if theyve lost it.


Posted by: PreMier

how can you be on the fence with NOG? he beat sylvia, and no one in the heavyweight division will be able to beat him IMO. the only person in pride that could consistantly stop him was fedor


Posted by: fufu

I could see possibly Vera or Arlovski beating Nog. They would have to really push their stand up and open up. Nog is almost impossible to KO. If they can avoid the guard and keep it standing they may be able to win via a decision or tko.


Posted by: AKIRA

Yeah. Nog just didnt look impressive to me when faced against the Jumbo Jabber. He just doesnt have that aura about him the way Silva, GSP, and Fedor have. I wouldnt be surprised if his days on the throne wont last long.


Posted by: AKIRA

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Confirmation Thursday of a rumor that circulated for weeks has made Fedor Emelianenko (Pictures) the most sought-after free agent in mixed martial arts … again.

The move by Emelianenko, first reported by ESPN, immediately rekindled talk of the Russian heavyweight fighting in the UFC, perhaps even against Randy Couture (Pictures).

Apy Echteld, who was hired as part of the European branch of M-1 Global and is a longtime manager of the 31-year-old Russian, told ESPN's Ryan Hockensmith that Emelianenko would be willing to restart contract negotiations with the UFC once the "divorce" is finalized.

M-1 CEO Monte Cox declined to comment on Thursday's news report, however he told Sherdog.com that M-1 and Emelianenko continue to share a "working relationship."

The question, then, is for how long?

According to one source that asked not to be identified, M-1 will likely expect Emelianenko to return a $1.5 million signing bonus he was paid last September. Negotiations should be finalized by Tuesday of next week, the same source said.

A free-agent Emelianenko could benefit from a deeper, more competitive bidding pool.

Newly minted with a historic TV deal from CBS, EliteXC would be "absolutely interested in Fedor if he was a free agent," Jeremy Lappen, the company's head of fighter operations, told Sherdog.com. "Of course, we're very friendly with Monte and have a close relationship with M-1 and would never step on their toes."

Mark Cuban, who has quickly turned HDNet into a desired premium-television destination for MMA fans, tempered expectations, telling Sherdog.com he doesn't plan on simply outspending competitors in an effort to sign the heavyweight.

"We always want to work with the best in the world," Cuban responded via e-mail. "That said, we aren't in the business of bidding wars. We are in the business of developing, promoting and supporting fighters and their careers and partnering with any and all who can help us accomplish that."

World Victory Road and Dream -- Japanese promoters attempting to establish themselves in Pride's wake -- could be Emelianenko suitors, though the MMA industry in that part of the world is not as strong as it was during the Russian's heyday.

Wildcard groups, such as the one apparently comprised of Oscar de la Hoya's Golden Boy Promotions and clothing apparel company Affliction, which sponsors Emelianenko and Couture, could enter the fray. An Affliction photo shoot featuring the heavyweight pair created quite a stir when shots and video of the fighters standing nose to nose hit the Internet.

Last October the newly formed M-1 Global, led by investor Mitchell Maxwell and Cox, announced at a New York news conference that they had won the war for the wandering Pride heavyweight king.

Emelianenko was expected to fight six times for $12 million over a two-year period for M-1. He fought just once since October, a co-promoted bout on New Year's Eve in Japan against an unranked opponent. Meanwhile M-1 has yet to produce its first event.

The Russian explained the decision against signing with the UFC came down largely to his opinion of the company's president.

"You cannot start a relationship with someone using those phrases," he said in New York, alluding to White's repeated description of Emelianenko's management as "crazy Russians."

Asked if he remained interested in signing Emelianenko (27-1-0, 1 NC) following a year of failed negotiations and a war of words that resulted in the promoter calling the No. 1-ranked heavyweight a "farce," White told ESPN: "Absolutely, 100 percent, in a heartbeat. People think he's the best -- I don't, not even close. But if it's somehow possible, I would make it happen."

"We're open to a discussion," Echteld responded to ESPN after learning of the UFC's potentially malleable position. "If everybody is willing to put a little wine in the water, then we have something to work with. There is space for this to happen."

Though Emelianenko's management, led by Vadim Finkelchtein and Echteld, expressed in late July that the UFC offer was extremely lucrative, it was also the most restrictive in terms of likeness rights, exclusivity and other points they did not want their fighter to concede.

The UFC chose not to budge either, leading to the creation of M-1 Global and what was thought to be the new home for Emelianenko.

A renegotiation for White would focus on getting Emelianenko in the Octagon across from Couture. While the UFC boss heavily favors "The Natural" in that matchup, the possibility of it taking place -- in the UFC or anywhere else -- is unknown while both sides battle in court over the status of Couture's contract.

After announcing his ill-fated deal with M-1 last fall, Emelianenko called Couture's challenge of the UFC "positive" and said he was "very proud that Couture made such a great decision."

It would be ironic if in the end the Russian signed with the UFC as a courtroom-tested Couture somehow freed himself from the most successful organization in MMA.

Wherever Fedor settles, fans will demand he fights the best challengers, starting with the 44-year-old former UFC champ.
Fedors Free Agency Fallout




Posted by: steppin-up

it would be great to see him step back into the octogon indeed...although i feel the new breed of fighters will challenge him in a whole new league with their better than just well rounded skills....who would i like to see come back from the dead?....mark kerr.... the man was a vicious ground and pound specialist and definately fell out of the picture before his day was done.....bring back the smashing machine!!!!


Posted by: fufu

Mark Kerr is done.....I liked him in is prime but he has no chance against any top 10 competetion.


Posted by: steppin-up

ok so mark kerr is done, but still how do you think mark coleman will rate against the new heavywieght fighters,....i think people like andre arlovski fitness and skills would be too much for the old school techniques employed by mark coleman, but with that said i haven't seen him fight for a while since he has been in pride.......just out of interest.....albeit a while ago now....what's your view on gilbert yvel?....also its nice to have someone to chat to about these things....aint much happening in australia in this field....not like elvis sinosic put us in the spotlight...unless it was to point out...we don't know when to tap...lol


Posted by: fufu

Anyone catch the WEC card last night? It was good.


Posted by: fufu

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ok so mark kerr is done, but still how do you think mark coleman will rate against the new heavywieght fighters,....i think people like andre arlovski fitness and skills would be too much for the old school techniques employed by mark coleman, but with that said i haven't seen him fight for a while since he has been in pride.......just out of interest.....albeit a while ago now....what's your view on gilbert yvel?....also its nice to have someone to chat to about these things....aint much happening in australia in this field....not like elvis sinosic put us in the spotlight...unless it was to point out...we don't know when to tap...lol
Coleman has always been a good controlling wrestler but he lacks athleticism and stamina. That was the Coleman of the past, I don't know what he will be like now, probably a poorer version. I actually want to see him fight Lesnar, in a side-showy kind of way.

I don't know much about Yvel at all.

I think people could easily counter his style if they worked for it. He is one dimensional. Against any top-10 he is toast.


Posted by: AKIRA

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Anyone catch the WEC card last night? It was good.
I saw that it was on, but I thought it was yet another fucking repeat. They play the shit out of certain 'fight nights,' but I dont mind VS. for doing that. Its better than Spike's endless hours of fucking CSI!


Posted by: fufu

CSI...blech

Next UFN is getting 3 hours of air. Don't miss those fights, got some great match ups.

BTW, the WEC card was pretty damn good.


Posted by: emitecaps

The WEC card was ok, nothing spectacular. The upcoming UFN looks great, I would actually purchase it if it were a PPV.

Yvel is a one dimensional kickboxer who resorts to cheating when things aren't going his way. His ground game sucks and if he's on his backs he's done.

Coleman got massacred by Fedor in his last fight but then again who wouldn't I think he might fare well against Brock until he gasses at the end of the first. Him and Kerr fighting in their primes would have been a good fight.


Posted by: bigss75

From the sounds of it Tim "The Sloth" Sylvia is jumping ship from the UFC. His manager is part of M-1 but since it lost Fedor they dont have anything. Again the mma hws are a complete cluster. I wonder if tim leaves if they are gonna re-sign Arlovski/Crocop?


Posted by: tallcall

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The next fight night is right before my birthday, so for my birthday I want the following:

1. Lauzon wins over Florian (really going to be a treat either way!)

2. Thiago "Pitbull" Alves wins over Karo (I can't stand Karo, hope Thiago rocks him!)

3. Matt Hamil Wins or Ties with Stephan Bonnar

4. Aurelio wins over Fisher (probably won't happen, but it's my birthday - I love them both so it doesn't really matter)

5. Din Thomas wins over Josh Near (again, I like them both, but I'm pulling for my team)

6. Guida wins over Schiavo (who the hell is Schiavo?)

7. Tommy Spears wins over Anthony Johnson (I predict this to be a KO)

There, that is what I want to see!



Posted by: fufu

Strikeforce Cung Le v Frank Shamrock tonight.

My friend gets Showtime show I will be enjoying this card with a few beers.

Was a very solid card but Jake Shields and Nick Diaz were dropped...fuckin 'a!

Still, got Drew Fickett fighting, someone I always like to watch. He almost didn't make weight as well, what the hell is going on?


Posted by: AKIRA

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From the sounds of it Tim "The Sloth" Sylvia is jumping ship from the UFC. His manager is part of M-1 but since it lost Fedor they dont have anything. Again the mma hws are a complete cluster. I wonder if tim leaves if they are gonna re-sign Arlovski/Crocop?
Eh good riddance.

Today while I was watching a tad of the TUF marathon, I was thinking about the possible need of doing a TUF show with HWs. Seriously, all the HWs you have are hit and misses. Might as well go out there and gather a shit load and make some money on them...but.....


Posted by: bigss75

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Eh good riddance.

Today while I was watching a tad of the TUF marathon, I was thinking about the possible need of doing a TUF show with HWs. Seriously, all the HWs you have are hit and misses. Might as well go out there and gather a shit load and make some money on them...but.....
Rothwell and Syliva both signed with Adrenaline MMA and has Monson for there first show.

Heavyweights are totally different then the 155-205 guys because there isnt many amazing big guys that have \conditioning or athletic ability.

Shane Carwin is a pretty legit HW in Ring of Fire that has a good future. He's a d2 wrestling champ with decent submission skills


Posted by: bigss75

Also awesome Frank Shamrock/ Cung Lee Fight.


Posted by: AKIRA

I heard. Vids?


Posted by: AKIRA

Ok I just watched it. Pretty fun fight. Shamrock's arm got injured? I guess sitting down takes its toll on the arms.....(?)


Posted by: Goodfella9783

Florian vs. Lauzon is a tough ass call for me. Not only are they Boston dudes, but very similar fighters. Crazy ass card for tomorrow night!


Posted by: AKIRA

I am gunning for Florian..


Posted by: tallcall

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I am gunning for Lauzon..

There I fixed it for you!


Posted by: bigss75

I'm going for florian, seems like they both have the same style but florian's got more experience. I really wish I could go to this event but i couldnt afford it. Colorado is gonna be psyched to get the UFC back.


Posted by: fufu

I'm rooting for Lauzon over Kenny "I finish fights" Florian.

If you like MMA you'd be a fool to miss this card. I'd PPV this shit easy.


Posted by: AKIRA

Just a reminder, isnt it a fight night tonight? I finally remembered ahead of time...now watch, ill have the wrong day...


Posted by: bigss75

its on right now. Houston just got f'ed up in less then 10 seconds.


Posted by: Doublebase

Nate Diaz is great to watch. That kid has mad heart.


Posted by: bigss75

Poor Steve with two premature stoppages


Posted by: fufu

Karo gotta be so pissed. Not a bad stoppage IMO.


Posted by: fufu

Diaz is one talented mofo, too.

Kenny Florian pisses me off, though. Those elbows to the top/back, tsk tsk. When he was in mount he was throwing these grazing/swiping elbows that seemed to be in the intention of cutting Joe. Hate that shit.

Oh well. Let's see a Tyson Griffin v Kenny Florian for a title shot.


Posted by: bigss75

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Diaz is one talented mofo, too.
He was getting pwned until Pellegrino got cocky and got stuck. The flip off after he sunk it in was pretty funny. Also anyone here Joe Rogan and the "rape" choke during the Hamill fight


Posted by: AKIRA

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He was getting pwned until Pellegrino got cocky and got stuck. The flip off after he sunk it in was pretty funny. Also anyone here Joe Rogan and the "rape" choke during the Hamill fight
YES! I HEARD IT!

I dont like Nate Diaz. I was hoping so badly hed get fucked up. Eh, I guess he did. I just didnt like how cocky he acted right after that lock. It wouldve been priceless had he lost the lock then lost the fight. Show him to be cocky too early again..

During the "25 toughest moments," which I thought was a joke, they showed n. diaz talking shit to Karo. Now, I dont like Karo, but Diaz acting like a danny81 wannabe and that drove me nuts. I wished he lost, but he did get some hits..

I think this was Kenny Florians best fight!

Alexander? I cant really say that was a bad stoppage. The fucker was out.

Karo's stoppage? Id say it coulda went on, but I am 50/50 on that one. Hey, at least it wasnt boring this time.

This was Tommy Speers best fight. Hah! Really was the best one I saw. Undeniable.

Hamill's fight was pretty good too.

Ah fuck it, its back on and I am waiting for this melatonin to kick in, so I am gonna go watch it again.


Posted by: AKIRA

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Nate Diaz is great to watch. That kid has mad heart.
Oh hey danny, nice of you to join us.


Posted by: Doublebase

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Oh hey danny, nice of you to join us.
Lol. Where has repro been?


Posted by: AKIRA

Who the fuck knows? Not sure why he even stopped posting. I have a feeling he reads this though.


Posted by: fufu

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He was getting pwned until Pellegrino got cocky and got stuck. The flip off after he sunk it in was pretty funny. Also anyone here Joe Rogan and the "rape" choke during the Hamill fight
Yeah he was. Kurt kept going to his guard, though. Even though Kurt was dominating in the first I always felt he was in danger if he stayed in there. I don't know if it was a matter of him getting cocky. Nate was setting up that triangle while being taken down, his set ups and hip movements are really smooth and stealthy.


Posted by: fufu

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Lol. Where has repro been?
jah, I was wondering the same thing.


Posted by: tallcall

I'm really happy Pitbull won his fight!

Joe will come back fromhis defeat better than he was before, hell a fight with a guy with that much experience is not a bad thing for such a young guy like Joe.

Nate is great on the ground and proved it again with this fight. I really want to see a Lauzon v Diaz fight just so Joe can get in there and fuck him up (which is really the way that season should have ended)!


Posted by: fufu

Tim Sylvia vs. Fedor Emelianenko to fight in July under Affliction banner
By: MMAmania



A fight between former UFC heavyweight champion and current Adrenaline MMA fighter, Tim Sylvia (24-4), and the last man to hold the Pride FC heavyweight strap, Fedor Emelianenko (27-1), is in the works for July 19 at the American Airlines Arena in Dallas, Texas, according to Sherdog.com.

The blockbuster showdown would be promoted by Affliction and air on Mark Cuban’s HDNet network.

Here’s a snip from the Russian:

“[Sylvia] is a good fighter, a strong fighter, the former UFC heavyweight champion, which is important. I am looking forward to fighting him and training hard for this fight.”

Sylvia recently parted ways with the UFC in a split that has been categorized by both parties as amicable. The decision came after a submission loss to Antonio Rodrigo “Minotauro: Nogueria at UFC 81: “Breaking Point” for the interim heavyweight championship in February.

With just one fight remaining on his contract — and another crack at the belt in the not so near future — “The Maine-iac” was granted permission to sign on with his long time manager, Monte Cox, who runs the upstart Adrenaline MMA promotion.

Prior to that Cox was the President and CEO of M-1 Global — a failed partnership between Russian and American backers that never staged a single event. The promotion was centered around Emelianenko; however, the two sides were at reportedly loggerheads when it came to compensation and competition.

Emelianenko became a free agent once he returned a $1.5 million signing bonus. And now he’s apparently set to kick-off 2008 with a fight against the 6′8″ Miletich-trained product, which would certainly be his biggest test since a fight with Mirko Cro Cop back in 2005.

Indeed, Emelianenko — once widely regarded as the most formidable pound-for-pound mixed martial artist on the planet — has taken a beating from critics because of his inability to take on top-level competition in recent years.

Hong Man Choi (freak show), Matt Lindland (a middleweight), and Mark Coleman (past his prime) are three of his last four opponents — not exactly the worthiest opponents for an individual who has been described as unbeatable in a sport in which anything can and often does happen.

Fedor, however, somehow seems to find ways to overcome those unpredictable odds … at least up until now.

It’s more than likely the case that Emelianenko will look to takedown “Big Tim” early and often to avoid that reach and his big punching power. Not to mention Emelianenko cuts very easily — it is the reason behind his only career defeat, in fact.

Sylvia has demonstrated decent takedown defense in the past; however, he has been susceptible to submissions throughout his seven-year professional career.

Definitely a very interesting match up if it comes to fruition. Randy Couture — the man who defeated Sylvia in March but is now embroiled in a bitter legal battle with the UFC because he wanted to fight Emelianenko — has got to be going nuts with this latest news.

Stay tuned for more updates on this developing story.


Posted by: AKIRA

Oh jesus, come on. What a half ass deal.


Posted by: fufu

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Posted by: fufu

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Oh jesus, come on. What a half ass deal.
Not a bad fight, though. Fedor is getting some Top 10 action.


Posted by: AKIRA

A couple of good fights out of a shit load of fights doesnt make a good fighter if you ask me.

The only thing Ill give him is that Couture didnt knock him out.


Posted by: tallcall

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A couple of good fights out of a shit load of fights doesnt make a good fighter if you ask me.

The only thing Ill give him is that Couture didnt knock him out.
I tend to agree. It's like pairing up a has been (Fedor - still good but I think his last fight was fixed) with a never really was (Tim is OK but very boring and not at all at Fedor's level now let alone his level back in the day). I predict Fedor wins in the first round by submission ().


Posted by: AKIRA

Boring definitely, but when I say good fighter, I mean persevering. GSP is a good example of someone that figures out a way to beat an opponent. When he fails, he makes up for it. Sadly to admit, with the exception of Rampage, Chuck does this too.


Posted by: fufu

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Boring definitely, but when I say good fighter, I mean persevering. GSP is a good example of someone that figures out a way to beat an opponent. When he fails, he makes up for it. Sadly to admit, with the exception of Rampage, Chuck does this too.
Well, won't you be happy to see Tim get arm barred?

If this goes to the ground at all, wow, it's over IMO.


Posted by: bigss75

I'm not buying the hype of Fedor walking all over Tim. I'll go tapout in the second round


Posted by: AKIRA

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Well, won't you be happy to see Tim get arm barred?

If this goes to the ground at all, wow, it's over IMO.
Eh, its hard to say, its apples vs. oranges. Fedor always has an interesting fight cuz he overcomes whereas Tim just establishes a championship then jabs his way to a decision.

However, this fight doesnt matter. I say Fedor will win, and once he does, everyone will say "duh!"


Posted by: Doublebase

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Well, won't you be happy to see Tim get arm barred?

If this goes to the ground at all, wow, it's over IMO.
Agreed 100%. Tim's pretty tough to get down. Fedor did bring down that 7' tall giant though.


Posted by: AKIRA

MMMMMmmmmmYeap!


Posted by: fufu

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Eh, its hard to say, its apples vs. oranges. Fedor always has an interesting fight cuz he overcomes whereas Tim just establishes a championship then jabs his way to a decision.

However, this fight doesnt matter. I say Fedor will win, and once he does, everyone will say "duh!"
Yeah, and it will probably make some people happy that he faced a top 10 hw.

I never count a guy out completley on a fight but I really do think Fedor will win.


Posted by: AKIRA

What I dont understand is that if Couture isnt in the UFC anymore..and Fedor isnt in the UFC....why didnt Fedor come ask Couture for a fight?

I know Couture has legality issues, but does this mean he cant fight at all until its resolved?


Posted by: fufu

Pretty sure.


Posted by: AKIRA

Convenient huh..


Posted by: tallcall

I wouldn't mind seeing a Fedor v Couture fight. This is only because I still have hope and a little faith in Randy and his wrestling to get the job done. I mean come on if a guy like Randy isn't good enough to go up against Fedor then we are basically just giving Fedor the number 1 position - Fedor needs excellent competition and I think Randy is one of the best he can get (that's unaffiliated and free to do something, and willing to do anything, and feels like he has something to prove - should be a good fight).


Posted by: CORUM

I Would Like To See It Too, But Randy Is Still Under Contract With The Ufc And They Are Holding Him Too It. Until He Finishes That Contract He Can Not Be Associated With Or Fight For Other Orginazations. And Ufc Cant Seem To Get Fedor!!!! So I Think Those Two Just Need To Go Into A Parking Lot Throw Down And Pay Per View That S**t!!! Then They Are Nto Fighting For Anybody But Themself, And They Can Keep The Profit From The Payperview!!!!


Posted by: fufu

Picks for 83?

St. Pierre over Serra
Franklin over Lutter
Quarry over Starnes
Danzig over Bocek
McCarthy over Bisping
Belcher over Day
MacDonald over Doerkson
Herman over Maia
Clementi over Stout
Goulet over Hironaka
Morris over Velasquez


Posted by: AKIRA

Holy shit, that is almost exactly what I picked on another forum.

Good form, fu. Good form.


Posted by: fufu

lawl


Posted by: tallcall

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Picks for 83?

St. Pierre over Serra
Franklin over Lutter
Quarry over Starnes
Danzig over Bocek
McCarthy over Bisping
Belcher over Day
MacDonald over Doerkson
Herman over Maia
Clementi over Stout
Goulet over Hironaka
Morris over Velasquez
I'd only say that I like Stout over Clementi, but other than that I totally agree. Maybe Starnes will do alright too, who knows.


Posted by: fufu

Anyone watch TUF? This season is kinda lame so far. The comedy and personalities exhibited from Forrest and Rampage seems so contrived. Dana gets them to be coachs because of their popularity and now they just force lame jokes.

Oh yeah and the fights. Last night's wasn't impressive.


Posted by: bigss75

Georges St Pierre
Rich Franklin
Nate Quarry
Mac Danzig
Charles McCarthy
Alan Belcher
Jason MacDonald
Demian Maia
Sam Stout
Jonathan Goulet
Brad Morris


Posted by: fufu

well fuckin' eh

no posts about last night's card?

Was pretty good. I picked the GSP perfectly on mmapg

Rich Franklin's arm bar escape was one of the best I've ever seen....and the Quarry/Starnes fiasco was hilarious.


Posted by: AKIRA

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well fuckin' eh

no posts about last night's card?

Was pretty good. I picked the GSP perfectly on mmapg

Rich Franklin's arm bar escape was one of the best I've ever seen....and the Quarry/Starnes fiasco was hilarious.
NO SHIT.

Holy shit, did I call every fight that got aired?!

I think the card kinda sucked.

Danzig's was a good fight.
Bisbing's was a good fight.
Quarry's....was a SHITTY fight, but what could he have done? I hope I never ever see Kalib fight again.
Franklin's fight was weird. I guess Lutter got EXTREMELY gassed huh?
GSP's was pretty obvious, though I didnt like the stoppage. I know why it was stopped, but not very climatic.

Besides Quarry making fun of Kalib and Franklin's escape, I wasnt surprised at all. I had zero doubt GSP would win (who would, honestly?) and I didnt really HATE any of the fighters, so I didnt have that excitement that I usually do.


Posted by: AKIRA

Oh yeah, I cant believe Florian was a commentator. Was he any good? I am watching the fights again right now and so far so good...


Posted by: fufu

Kenny is a decent commentator. I'll take him over Mauro Renallo or Bill Goldberg anyday.


Posted by: AKIRA

Rogan wasnt there right? He replaced him for the night..?


Posted by: bigss75

That Quarry fight was horrible.


Posted by: AKIRA

Twas. Truly pathetic. I watched it again so I can hear the aftermath.

Kalib should be done, for sure.


Posted by: fufu

UFC spots are precious, get Kalib TFO!!!


Posted by: Doublebase

Vids?


Posted by: Richie1888

has he spoken since and explained what was going through his mind ?

a gameplan gone wrong ? or was he trying to tire out nate lol like kenny thought


Posted by: IainDaniel

Not really a big surprise.... but

UFC cuts Starnes after disgraceful performance - MMA Experts Blog - Mixed Martial Arts - Yahoo! Sports


Posted by: fufu

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has he spoken since and explained what was going through his mind ?

a gameplan gone wrong ? or was he trying to tire out nate lol like kenny thought
Starnes said it he had a broken foot.

He gave a sketchy repsonse and mostly pointed the finger at Dana.


Posted by: DOMS

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That Quarry fight was horrible.
I laughed my ass off when Quarry went after Starnes with that crazy one fist thing. Not to mention Quarry's marathon man.

Ah, here we go.

YouTube Video


"Wowwwww!"


Posted by: DOMS

I'm new to watching the UFC, but I take it that hitting the back isn't allowed? There were several times in the Serra vs. GSP fight that Serra could've elbowed the shit out of GSP's back.


Posted by: CORUM

? GSP won by kneeing serra in the back and ribs. you can't hit the back of the head.


Posted by: CORUM

and he did alot of running and bouncing around for a guy with a broke foot!!!! LMAO he should have came up with a better excuse!!!! like "I'm a Pu**y and didn't want to get knocked out, I need to find a new job!!!"


Posted by: fufu

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I'm new to watching the UFC, but I take it that hitting the back isn't allowed? There were several times in the Serra vs. GSP fight that Serra could've elbowed the shit out of GSP's back.
No strikes to the spine, back of the neck or back of the head.


Posted by: AKIRA

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I like the comments.


Posted by: Richie1888

what happened to the liddell evans fight at the event in England I notice its not on the card now on the UFC website ?


Posted by: Richie1888

UFC: Liddell out of UFC 85 due to hamstring blow - Setanta Sports



ill change the question then lol

anyone heard anything about a replacement bout ?

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Originally Posted by fufu
Starnes said it he had a broken foot.

He gave a sketchy repsonse and mostly pointed the finger at Dana.
you would have thought all the taunting and hits would ahve mad him angry enough to launch a couple of counter punches or kicks. it just seemed like he really didnt want any of nate right from the start.

it was disappointing id only ever seen that guy fight once before and he looked good id have liked to have seen him again in a real fight.

was cutting starnes a bit harsh after one dodgy match though ?


Posted by: DOMS

I also wanted to point out that the Canadian are pretty shitty for constantly booing anyone that wasn't Canadian.

A complete load of shit.


Posted by: AKIRA

Ill second that. That shit never happened in PRIDE when it was us in Japan. Hell, does England even do this?





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was cutting starnes a bit harsh after one dodgy match though ?
No.


Posted by: Richie1888

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Ill second that. That shit never happened in PRIDE when it was us in Japan. Hell, does England even do this?







No.
1 strike and out then I take it.


Posted by: fufu

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I also wanted to point out that the Canadian are pretty shitty for constantly booing anyone that wasn't Canadian.

A complete load of shit.
All countries do this besides Japan from what I have seen.


Posted by: fufu

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1 strike and out then I take it.
UFC is the premier fighting organization currently. What he did was bullshit. People pay 45$ to see good fights. What he did was pretty fucking bad and I don't think people are taking it too far.

He got a chance to be on the main card fighting in his own country and he ran the whole fight.


Posted by: Doublebase

Fuck you Serra... Ouch!
YouTube Video



Posted by: fufu

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UFC: Liddell out of UFC 85 due to hamstring blow - Setanta Sports



ill change the question then lol

anyone heard anything about a replacement bout ?



?

James Irvin vs. Rashad Evans.


Posted by: DOMS

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All countries do this besides Japan from what I have seen.
And the US.


Posted by: DOMS

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Fuck you Serra... Ouch!
I'm new to MMA, so why the hate for Serra?


Posted by: fufu

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And the US.
US oftens boo-s non natives.


Posted by: DOMS

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US oftens boo-s non natives.
I don't know about MMA, but it doesn't happen what I watch other sports.


Posted by: fufu

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I don't know about MMA, but it doesn't happen what I watch other sports.
I'm talking about MMA.


Posted by: AKIRA

Hah ^Good call.

Yeah if Tito is fighting in California, hell be cheered and his opponent will be booed, unless hes from Cally too.

"Fuck you Serra" is, once again, excessive. I love GSP. I knew hed win, but god damn..


Posted by: Richie1888

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UFC is the premier fighting organization currently. What he did was bullshit. People pay 45$ to see good fights. What he did was pretty fucking bad and I don't think people are taking it too far.

He got a chance to be on the main card fighting in his own country and he ran the whole fight.
fiar enough but sports men and women have off nights.


Posted by: IainDaniel

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I also wanted to point out that the Canadian are pretty shitty for constantly booing anyone that wasn't Canadian.

A complete load of shit.
Yeah kinda like americans booing other nationalities or hanging there flag upside down


Posted by: DOMS

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Yeah kinda like americans booing other nationalities or hanging there flag upside down
"Booing other nationalities"? Are you talking about MMA or Mexicans?

"Flag upside down"? What the fuck is that about?

Oh, the non-Canadians were booed at the fucking weigh-ins, too.


Posted by: IainDaniel

World Series Jays in Atlanta they hung the Canadian flag upside down.

If there isn't a bigger showcase to disrespect a nationality I don't know what is.


Posted by: DOMS

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World Series Jays in Atlanta they hung the Canadian flag upside down.

If there isn't a bigger showcase to disrespect a nationality I don't know what is.
Who are "they"? Someone in the crowd or the ballpark managers?


Posted by: DOMS

Okay, I looked it up. That could've been an honest mistake on someone's part. After all, someone decided to put the Canadian flag in a honor procession. Which is odd that it was even there, considering both teams were from the US.

Plus, that happened in 1992. That's 16 years ago and it happened once. But I can see how that one-off event a decade and a half ago is just like 21,000 Canadians booing everyone that wasn't Canadian. Not to mention the people at the weigh-in.

I don't care how you try to slice and dice it, that's poor sportsmanship on a National level.


Posted by: DOMS

Thinking about it, I guess it must just be as fufu says it is: it's the MMA crowd. Maybe they need to feel as pumped as the fighters.


Posted by: AKIRA

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Thinking about it, I guess it must just be as fufu says it is: it's the MMA crowd. Maybe they need to feel as pumped as the fighters.
Not necessarily. MMA is filled with an array of internationality, so youre going to get a bunch of fighters from different countries.

With that said, throughout my time watching the UFC, I have hardly ever heard a US crowd boo every fighter that was from another country. If they boo, its prolly cuz of the fighters' fight history.

Ill bet if GSP and Serra fought in the US instead of Canada, neither would be booed, much less, chant "fuck you GSP."


Posted by: fufu

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fiar enough but sports men and women have off nights.
Off night it may be, but you still don't run.


Posted by: AKIRA

Fuck no you dont. I must say though....I am surprised no one has said the fight was RIGGED!


Posted by: fufu

yeah, suprised that didn't show up on sherdog...

but what would be the motivation behind that?


Posted by: tallcall

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yeah, suprised that didn't show up on sherdog...

but what would be the motivation behind that?
Yeah, I never thought Nate Quarry was really that big a name to have a rigged fight. Usually you'd rig a fight for a popular big named guy wouldn't you, like Fedor's last fight?


Posted by: bigss75

They added Thiago Alves/Matt Hughes and Leben/Bisping for ufc 85


Posted by: AKIRA

85? Is this the May 24th one?


Posted by: bigss75

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85? Is this the May 24th one?
No its the one in june in england. Since Chuck got injured that card was basically lacked any really big marketable names.


Posted by: bigss75

I'm confused how Rich Clementi is fighting in ufc 84 after fighting in 83, I thought you get a medical suspension for 6 weeks after any fight no matter what


Posted by: IainDaniel

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Okay, I looked it up. That could've been an honest mistake on someone's part. After all, someone decided to put the Canadian flag in a honor procession. Which is odd that it was even there, considering both teams were from the US.

Plus, that happened in 1992. That's 16 years ago and it happened once. But I can see how that one-off event a decade and a half ago is just like 21,000 Canadians booing everyone that wasn't Canadian. Not to mention the people at the weigh-in.

I don't care how you try to slice and dice it, that's poor sportsmanship on a National level.
Or how about a few years ago in the NHL playoffs, the New York Islander fans booed the Canadian National anthem. When the series returned to Toronto, the Canadian fans cheered emphatically during the American Anthem. To show what class is.


Posted by: DOMS

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Or how about a few years ago in the NHL playoffs, the New York Islander fans booed the Canadian National anthem. When the series returned to Toronto, the Canadian fans cheered emphatically during the American Anthem. To show what class is.
So then, it's just the MMA fans?


Posted by: DOMS

After watching a few UFC shows, I've noticed that 185 seems to "the" weight class. Why is that?


Posted by: tallcall

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After watching a few UFC shows, I've noticed that 185 seems to "the" weight class. Why is that?
Actually I think there's a whole heck of a lot more guys in the 155 "lightweight" and 205 "light-heavyweight" classes than the others. Right now 185 is popular but I think that's due to Anderson Silva being the champ and everyone and their mother wanting a crack at him. I love Anderson, I'd also love to fight him just so I could say I had my ass handed to me by Anderson Silva!


Posted by: Richie1888

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Off night it may be, but you still don't run.
fair point i suppose.


Posted by: AKIRA

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After watching a few UFC shows, I've noticed that 185 seems to "the" weight class. Why is that?
I think it has to do with the average weight vs. the easiest weight to make. I would be a beast at 185lbs. I wouldnt doubt I am not the only one with that kind of attitude...

What Id like to see is a TUF show with nothing BUT heavyweights. That department seems to be the most lacking as far as being true to just the UFC and the constant bickering as to who is the best..

I mean, Couture was the last respectable HW champ. Everyone else seemed like a target waiting to be knocked down. However, you got GSP in WW, Silva in MW, both of them earned and deserved that title. Shit, even Rampage in LHW is a better champ than Liddell. (Here it comes)


Posted by: biggfly

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I think it has to do with the average weight vs. the easiest weight to make. I would be a beast at 185lbs. I wouldnt doubt I am not the only one with that kind of attitude...

What Id like to see is a TUF show with nothing BUT heavyweights. That department seems to be the most lacking as far as being true to just the UFC and the constant bickering as to who is the best..

I mean, Couture was the last respectable HW champ. Everyone else seemed like a target waiting to be knocked down. However, you got GSP in WW, Silva in MW, both of them earned and deserved that title. Shit, even Rampage in LHW is a better champ than Liddell. (Here it comes)
I agree...Rampage is a better champ. Liddell is straight up scared of Rampage...no way he will ever beat him. Rampage is a funny fucker too...


Posted by: fufu

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After watching a few UFC shows, I've noticed that 185 seems to "the" weight class. Why is that?
What do you mean? The talent pool sucks in that division compared to LHW, WW and LW. The only division worse right now is the HW.

There aren't many main card MW showbusters.


Posted by: DOMS

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What do you mean? The talent pool sucks in that division compared to LHW, WW and LW. The only division worse right now is the HW.

There aren't many main card MW showbusters.
So many of the bouts in the last UFC shows, and a lot of the contenders on The Ultimate Fighter, seem to be in that weight category.


Posted by: fufu

I don't think there were any MW bouts in the last UFN.

There were alot in the last PPV card, but that doesn't mean anything. It is just the ebb and flow of match making.


Posted by: fufu

Take a look at the last UFN. 7/12 fights were LW's.

Nothing to pay attention to IMO.


Posted by: AKIRA

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What do you mean? The talent pool sucks in that division compared to LHW, WW and LW. The only division worse right now is the HW.

There aren't many main card MW showbusters.
Yeah. However, I would tackle what is hurting me the most first and thats HW.


Posted by: fufu

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They added Thiago Alves/Matt Hughes and Leben/Bisping for ufc 85
Two good fights. Finally a test for Bisping (sans Evans).


Posted by: tallcall

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Yeah. However, I would tackle what is hurting me the most first and thats HW.
I totally agree. I wonder if it's just that it's easier for the guys to cut 20 pounds and be a heavy light-heavyweight than fight at their normal weight. The heavyweight class is a pretty damn large class - I mean it covers 206 lbs to 265 lbs - 60 pounds. They should probably divide it up further and put a super-heavyweight division in ranging in weight from 236-265 pounds. I'm willing to bet most of the guys fall somewhere very close to 220 pounds and find it much easier to cut 14 pounds to light-heavy and be some of the heavier light-heavyweights out there.

I weigh 277 pounds and am currently a super-heavyweight, I would love to cut down to 265 and fight eventually as a very heavy heavyweight - I would own all of them since I'd probably be about 40 pounds heavier. That's a nice weight gap in my favor.


Posted by: CORUM

brock lesner thought the same with his weight, owning the heavy weights just cause your big


Posted by: tallcall

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brock lesner thought the same with his weight, owning the heavy weights just cause your big
Yeah, but that was what his first match in the UFC (2nd MMA fight total). And I thought he did very well against a more seasoned opponent - If Frank didn't win it would've all looked like it was fixed. I love Frank, but I still think Brock is going to, thankfully, terrorize that entire division the way Gonzaga should've (he was the real disappointment).

Either way a 60 pound weight range is just crazy, I don't blame people for not wanting to sign up for that and face the possibility of going up against someone potentially 50-60 pounds heavier than them. I say split the division and add super-heavyweight.


Posted by: bigss75

More UFC 83 fallout, Lutter gets cut

Travis Lutter cut from the UFC | MMAjunkie.com


Posted by: CORUM

tallcall you are absolutly right!! but i think lesner will be a let down, 170 lb wrestler choked him out and he never went back to that training camp. givin it was matt hughes that chocked him out, but they were rolling you would figure since he is supposedly a great wrestler he would have held his own, but the word around is he is weak minded so i do not think he will go very far. but i will say for a guy his size he is QUICK!!!! he has all the tools, he just needs to sharpen them and use them!!!


Posted by: AKIRA

Anyone watch TUF last night or on Wed? Finally, Rampage is getting funny and looks like some steam is brewing between the coaches.

I thought "mini rampage" was pretty good with those slams. If he didnt tire nor take that knee, he couldve done more damage.


Posted by: DOMS

I liked it. I wonder if the coaches are serious or just acting for the camera?


Posted by: Goodfella9783

I watched it too. Second fight was garbage. That one dude throwing overhand right after overhand right looked like a drunken bar brawler. Terrible.


Posted by: tallcall

I liked Cale, but then again, I thought he was kind of hot, so my opinions may be a bit biased.

Anyways, I think it'll either by CB or Dante to win it all. I really hope CB does well, I've seen a few of his previous fights on YouTube and really just want to see him take it all. I think experience counts for a lot in this sport and that's why I think one of these two guys will be the winner (please let it be CB....I want CB....Come on CB......Lets Go CB Lets Go )



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Posted by: fufu

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I watched it too. Second fight was garbage. That one dude throwing overhand right after overhand right looked like a drunken bar brawler. Terrible.
Yeah, that was terrible. The frosted hair guy kept lunging in with this slow body shots but the other guy didn't even capitalize on it.


Posted by: AKIRA

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I watched it too. Second fight was garbage. That one dude throwing overhand right after overhand right looked like a drunken bar brawler. Terrible.
Wow, thats exactly what I said to myself when I watched it. "Nothing but overheads.." (I thought it would be overhead, not overhand..?)

What were his exact words to Forrest? " cant wait til you fight Rampage"?

I wouldnt had been surprised if it went to a 3rd round though. Then again, I am not surprised it DIDNT.


Posted by: fufu

UFC 84 picks?

Penn over Sherk
Machida over Ortiz
Wanderlei Silva over Jardine (come on wandy)
Gouveia over Reljic
Palhares over Salaverry
Kim over Tan
Sokoudjou over Nakamura
Wellisch over Carwin
Thiago Silva over Mendez
Yoshido over Koppenhaver
Clementi over Etim by absolute destruction


Posted by: Richie1888

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UFC 84 picks?

Penn over Sherk
Machida over Ortiz
Wanderlei Silva over Jardine (come on wandy)
Gouveia over Reljic
Palhares over Salaverry
Kim over Tan
Sokoudjou over Nakamura
Wellisch over Carwin
Thiago Silva over Mendez
Yoshido over Koppenhaver
Clementi over Etim by absolute destruction

something makes me think Jardine and Sherk though I could be wrong


Posted by: Doublebase

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UFC 84 picks?

Penn vs Sherk
Machida vs Ortiz
Wanderlei Silva vs Jardine (come on wandy)
Penn
Ortiz
Wandy


Posted by: fufu

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something makes me think Jardine and Sherk though I could be wrong
they are tough picks


Posted by: AKIRA

I am going all out.

Sherk
Silva
Machida


Also, Rampage had me laughing pretty hard from the show. Talking about Forrest's training partner. "He outta go find some eggs and sit on them."


Posted by: tallcall

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UFC 84 picks?

Penn over Sherk
Machida over Ortiz
Wanderlei Silva over Jardine (come on wandy)
Gouveia over Reljic
Palhares over Salaverry
Kim over Tan
Sokoudjou over Nakamura
Wellisch over Carwin
Thiago Silva over Mendez
Yoshido over Koppenhaver
Clementi over Etim by absolute destruction
I agree with you for the most part.

I think Matt Brown's next fight is going to be interesting.

CB is going to demolish Cale. I like them both somewhat but CB is going to kill him, so I guess that's that.

Dante is going to tear open his opponent, so I guess that's done. The others make me want to . I can't wait to see Forrest kill Rampage at the finale!


Posted by: AKIRA

I would be surprised if Forrest won.

As far as the fighters go, I want to see matt brown fight CB. I was impressed with Rampage saying CB had a big head cuz the fucker does. Its good and bad to be like that. It makes me want him to lose and that makes it interesting.


Posted by: Richie1888

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they are tough picks
agreed but ill stick to my guns Jardine, Sherk and machida.


Posted by: fufu

great card


Posted by: CORUM

that tito fight sucked ass!!! and 30-27!!!! are you serious, i didnt see it that way!!! i wouldnt invite machida back, he ran for 15 minutes. i was impressed with the knee to the liver, but everything else was weak!!! and sean sherk WTF???? he only tried for one take down??? he is not a fucking boxer, i dont know his game plan but it was not a very good one. he should have went to the ground he was getting busted up by a JAB!!!! the wandy fight, well that was just great!!! jardine says he was the superior boxer, wrestler, grappler, kick boxer, WTF i guess he has never seen wandy fight!!! that was a great ass whoopin!!!


Posted by: fufu

Machida wasn't running, he was avoiding punches. He hit Tito more with a variety of different strikes. So if he was running, that indicates more negative about Tito. He also tossed his ass at the end of the 1st or 2nd round and started pounding him. Good fight, Tito hardly got a shot on Machida. It could have been more exciting but it was fun to watch a guy move in and out and dictate the pace of the fight while barely getting tagged.


Posted by: CORUM

it was the end of the first. i actually thought it was almost over for tito. he avoided punches by running around the ring. he did land some pretty good ones. i am impressed how he can throw and run. i thought it was a shitty fight. i was not impressed with machida at all. he had a pretty good game plan i guess, but it was not a fight to really talk about the day after. and if you want to talk about him taking tito down in the first, what about when he had tito hurt in the third and instead of even coming close to finishing he almost get submitted!!! not impressed with him, i can live with out ever seeing him fight again.

what about the Pulver vs Faber fight coming up??? i love jens, and i havent really seen faber too much. from what i have seen he is pretty damn good!!


Posted by: AKIRA

GOD DAMMIT. I almost had this one done perfect! Sherk fucked up.

I thought the Machida fight went exactly as I planned it. My friend called it better, he knew it would go a decision. However, I knew it was going to be a boring fight. Machida is always boring. In fact, I think hes more boring than Koscheck now.

Silva fight was a no brainer.

Sherk...jesus, what, did he say he couldnt continue? I couldnt hear cuz of the crowd. He got a knee, few punches, then the bell rang and...said he couldnt continue? Not much of a champ there, former or current. He fought like a PRIDE fighter
..without the juice.


Posted by: AKIRA

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Machida wasn't running, he was avoiding punches. He hit Tito more with a variety of different strikes. So if he was running, that indicates more negative about Tito. He also tossed his ass at the end of the 1st or 2nd round and started pounding him. Good fight, Tito hardly got a shot on Machida. It could have been more exciting but it was fun to watch a guy move in and out and dictate the pace of the fight while barely getting tagged.
Yeah that was good. Machida fights like,well, how Sherk used to. He does just enough to win the fight.

Look at this shit..
Fight Finder - Lyoto "The Dragon" Machida's Mixed Martial Arts Statistics

8 OUT OF 13 WINS ARE DECISIONS. x 13


Posted by: DOMS

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Machida wasn't running, he was avoiding punches. He hit Tito more with a variety of different strikes. So if he was running, that indicates more negative about Tito. He also tossed his ass at the end of the 1st or 2nd round and started pounding him. Good fight, Tito hardly got a shot on Machida. It could have been more exciting but it was fun to watch a guy move in and out and dictate the pace of the fight while barely getting tagged.
Machinda was so technical that...it's almost not worth watching. Yeah, I know, a win is a win, but he's so boring to watch.

When the fighters get tangled up on the ground for too long, and nothing is happening, the ref breaks it up because there's nothing for the fans to see. That's also what watching Machida is like.

They should bring Starnes back and have him fight Machida, and pass out that Xinergy crap drink. Xinergy: so strong that even Machinda and Starnes can't put you to sleep!


Posted by: DOMS

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GOD DAMMIT. I almost had this one done perfect! Sherk fucked up.
I think he injured his right hand early on. It fucked up his game.

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Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
I thought the Machida fight went exactly as I planned it. My friend called it better, he knew it would go a decision. However, I knew it was going to be a boring fight. Machida is always boring. In fact, I think hes more boring than Koscheck now.
My sentiments exactly.


Posted by: DOMS

Penn is a shitty sportsman. I'm looking forward to someone breaking him.


Posted by: AKIRA

When I first got into the UFC, Penn was one of the few I didnt know about at all. Slowly, I watched what he could do and though talented, I thought he was a tad bit arrogant. However, when I first started to watch him he just lost to Hughes and I felt bad for him. I dont like Hughes at all, so Penn's comments didnt seem so bad when compared to Hughes. They still dont. However, Penn is more insulting, so fuck him.

I wish Sherk had a Plan B or something, but he fought like shit. Utter shit. Penn isnt talentless so him earning a win over someone that fights with shit loaded caliber, is nothing to be proud about.


Posted by: fufu

Say what you will, Machida has an effective style all to his own and has top notch foot work, movement and accuracy. He also uses a wide variety of strikes and combinations.

He is a smaller LHW and can throw around bigger and "stronger" opponents and make them look silly.


Posted by: bigss75

Machida fights exactly like his background, a point based karate match. He'll strike and as long as it lands it doesn't matter if it does any damage.

I don't understand if Sherk was that scared of Penn's BJJ to take him down or what.

Also be on the lookout for Shane Carwin, he finished his guy in the 1st round. I've seen him fight in Ring of Fire and he is a beast, NCAA champion wrestler and none of his fights have been past three minutes


Posted by: AKIRA