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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Yeah, my initial reaction was that was the end for Chuck. Anderson Silva would put him to sleep in a heartbeat. |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Yeah, my initial reaction was that was the end for Chuck. Anderson Silva would put him to sleep in a heartbeat. |
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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
chuck got knocked the f*ck out! That was insane to see the iceman get done to him what he has been known to do to others....I am so shocked....I tihnk he should retire after that one.
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Originally Posted by Richie1888
on the other hand though it was one lucky punch rashad was doing nothing till he landed it.
cant believe such a limited ability fighter is getting a title shot ill be backing forest for a successful defense in that one |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
I completely disagree that it was a lucky punch. He was sizing Chuck up the whole first round, and he started landing quite frequently right before the final exchange. Yeah, Chuck won the first round but Rashad was winning the 2nd before he knocked Chuck's block off.
Rashad is our next LHW champ. Bank on it. |
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Originally Posted by Richie1888
winning the second round surely not
you think he ll do a number on forest ? i cant believe we re talking about the same guy that was lucky to get a draw with tito lol |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Go back and watch, Rashad landed 3 or 4 nice left hooks and a couple rights directly behind them. It was har to tell though will all of the nuthugging Goldberg and Rogan were doing, but Rashad was definitely winning that round.
He never pulled the trigger with Tito, when he finally got active in the 3rd, he won the round easily. I think Rashad will mix his solid boxing and good takedowns to keep Forrest off of his game and either win a boring decision or catch Forrest with a similar right hand. |
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Originally Posted by Richie1888
on the other hand though it was one lucky punch rashad was doing nothing till he landed it.
cant believe such a limited ability fighter is getting a title shot ill be backing forest for a successful defense in that one |
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
Evens is still boring to watch. Excluding the KO parts, you'd have to snap a chalk-line to see if he's even moving. Even though he wins like that he's still boring ... 'cept for the KO parts.
Hamill is a nice deaf guy who can wrestle, but lacks the hand skills for the guys at the top of the food chain. Ace tore his ass up. Hamill will never be the man. I've always been a Hendo fan. The guy is normally fighting above his weight against fighters that are cutting weight to fight 'em, yet he normally wins. He fought a great strat' vs a freak of nature with insane ground skills for a well earned win ... a 29/28 vic IMHO with a lost second round. Hey Chucky ...
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Can anyone find the fights with Rogan and Goldberg commenting? I only have the Portuguese announcers...
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
I dont think Rashad is boring to watch. Oddly, I dont think I remember being too bored ever.
I knew Hamill wasnt going to win. I just never thought he was all that good. I would like to see the Bisping/Hamill fight again though. Ive never been impressed with Henderson. I hear the praise, but I dont see it. Perhaps he used to be good? Oh...and jesus, if I read another "he got knocked the fuck out" line, I am going to scream. |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
I am going to disagree OR agree with a batch of inexperience.
If youre going to call Rashad's punch lucky, then youre going to have to call every single "Liddell Punch" that has ever been delivered lucky as well. Seriously, thats why I never liked Liddell. It always seemed like this punches were lucky hits. Believe it or not, I still kind of do. However, Rashad's punches didnt seem lucky to me. In fact, I would say Liddell was lucky to not get hit earlier on. |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Can anyone find the fights with Rogan and Goldberg commenting? I only have the Portuguese announcers...
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UFC 88 fighter salaries: Despite KO loss, Chuck Liddell top earner with $500K by Dann Stupp on Sep 08, 2008 at 4:55 pm ET Despite a shocking knockout loss to Rashad Evans in the night's main event, Chuck Liddell still received the highest reported payday at this past weekend's "UFC 88: Breakthrough" event with a $500,000 fight purse. MMAjunkie.com today requested and received the list of official salaries from the Georgia Athletic and Entertainment Commission. Other top earners included UFC 88 main-card winners Dan Henderson ($250,000), Evans ($120,000) and Rich Franklin ($100,000). The total disclosed payroll for the event was a hefty $1,220,000. The event took place this past Saturday, Sept. 6, at Atlanta's Philips Arena and aired live on pay per view. The full list of salaries included:  Now, the usual disclaimer: the figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker room" or special bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays. In other words, these are simply base salaries reported to the commission and do not reflect entire compensation packages for the event. |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
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Originally Posted by Tanner had recently started his own blog in association with SpikeTV.com.
“I've been sitting around this apartment, bored to tears, waiting on the last of the gear I need for the desert adventure to come in the mail. I've really been looking forward to getting out there,” wrote Tanner. “It seems some MMA websites have reported on the story, posting up that I might die out in the desert, or that it might be my greatest opponent yet, etc. Come on guys. This isn't a version of "Into the Wild". I'm not going out into the desert with a pair of shorts and a bowie knife, to try to live off the land. I'm going fully geared up, and I'm planning on having some fun.” |
... errr no wait yeah it is his own version of "Into The Wild" <---- link to HDBits hidef torrent downloads in case you haven't seen this movie. I have invites if you need them. Good site ... 
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Report: Affliction II Postponed Until January Sep 10, 2008 1:26 PM Bill Reger Photo by Esther Lin/CombatLifestyle.com Loretta Hunt of Sherdog has confirmed with Keith Kizer of the NSAC that Affliction II: Day of Reckoning, scheduled for October 11th in Las Vegas, has been postponed until January 2009. The Oct. 11 Affliction event scheduled for the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas has been postponed, Keith Kizer of the Nevada State Athletic Commission confirmed to Sherdog.com on Wednesday.It will be interesting to see what the reasoning is for the postponement and long delay before the rescheduling. Update (3:30pmEST): Multiple outlets are reporting that slow ticket sales in Las Vegas may be the reason for the postponement. Robert Joyner of MMAPayout explains: The main reason put forward for the postponement were very low ticket sales to this point, rivaling those of the IFL Orleans show from earlier this year. While the company had a few billboards promoting the show in Vegas, Affliction hit a brickwall when trying to promote the show through radio and other local media, with some companies being unwilling to sell them airtime, according to sources. The company was also said to have a poor casino partner in the Vegas market, an off-strip casino, that lacked the needed pull in the Vegas market help properly promote the show. The make-up of the card also has to factor in as well. The card lost a lot of its€™ sizzle once it was known that Fedor Emilianenko would be unavailable for the card. Attempts to bolster the card with the signing of Tito Ortiz also fell through, as the two parties were unable to come to terms.Just last week, Affliction€™s Tom Atencio was quoted as saying they have found making deals in Las Vegas to be very difficult, being the UFC€™s home turf. |
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Originally Posted by fufu
I know the WEC card was postponed, but to when?
Also, nobody has mentioned the UFN card this wednesday. Gonna be good. |
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Originally Posted by fufu
Ohhh shit, nice! You gonna take any pics?
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Oh defintely. Someone that is pretty young (18) is going with us, and we have the best seats in the house so I'm hoping to get some pics with him and some big names. I'll wear my battery out. Can't wait.
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Demian Maia vs Nate Quarry UFC 91 fight possible By: MMAmania Undefeated Brazilian jiu-jitsu specialist Demian Maia (8-0) will likely return to middleweight action against The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 1 alum, Nate Quarry (10-2), at UFC 91: €œCouture vs. Lesnar€ at the MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las Vegas, Nevada, on November 15, according to Tatame.com. Here€™s a sip from Maia on the match up: €œI didn€™t study his fights yet, I€™ll receive a DVD with his fights, but I only watch my opponents€™ fights when the fight gets closer. I€™m training a lot my stand up game like for the last fight, but every time I can I do some BJJ trainings.€That€™s a smart approach to this type of fight because Maia €” a 2007 Abu Dhabi tournament winner €” doesn€™t need to improve much on the ground. He has won all three of his 185-pound bouts inside the Octagon since his debut with the promotion at UFC 77: €œHostile Territory€ back in October 2007. And he€™s come out on top in each one of those contests in style, defeating Ryan Jensen, Ed Herman and Jason MacDonald by way of submission and earning €œSubmission of the Night€ honors for all of those wins. It€™s a remarkable streak, which he will look to keep intact against the heavy-handed €œRock.€ Quarry is undefeated (2-0) since a nearly two-year break from competition to recover from a serious injury that required €œspinal fusion€ surgery to repair. He stopped Pete Sell via come from behind third round knockout in his return fight and outpointed Kalib Starnes on all three judges scorecards in his most recent performance. This is a fine addition to a card that already includes the €œBiggest Fight in UFC History€ between heavyweight champion Randy Couture and Brock Lesnar as the marquee attraction. |
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Houston Alexander Couldn’t Hear at the Ultimate Fight Night September 18, 2008 · Filed Under Quotes, UFC “The crowd was so loud that I couldn’t hear my corner. If I heard them and knew, you know, there are 10 seconds left, five seconds left, whatever, I would have tried to hung in there a little longer and survived. But it was so loud and these people were supporting me so much, I couldn’t hear and I had to tap.”Houston Alexander blames the fans in Omaha Nebraska for tapping out when he could of held on for a second round. Alexander told Yahoo Sports today that the crowd was so loud he couldn’t hear his corner causing him to tap out when there was only seconds left on the clock. Many believed that Alexander could of won this fight against Eric Schafer but things didn’t work out as planned and Alexander got his 3rd straight loss in the UFC Octagon. |
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Jesse Taylor vs Drew Fickett Total Combat fight booked October 2 By: James Iannotti The Ultimate Fighter (TUF) 7 castoff Jesse Taylor (6-3) — who was cut from the UFC for the second time in July following a loss to fellow housemate CB Dolloway as well as some questionable comments about the Rampage Jackson situation — didn’t have much trouble finding work outside the Octagon. “Cocoa the Monkey” will compete in the main event at Total Combat 32: “Notorious” at the Sycuan Casino & Resort, which is just outside of San Diego, Calif., on October 2. The former middleweight will make the move down to 170 pounds to face Drew “The Master” Fickett (35-6). Fickett is a huge step up in competition for Taylor. In fact, he hasn’t faced anybody with even half the experience of “The Master.” To make matters worse, the experience isn’t even the only thing that makes this match up look one-sided. All three of Taylor’s career losses have been by submissions, which is Fickett’s strongest attribute as a fighter. In fact, he’s won by way of tapout 24 times in his career. Therfore, if Taylor had trouble with Dolloway’s submissions then one can imagine what kind of problems a technician the caliber of Fickett poses for him. Regardless, Taylor is going to be a beast at welterweight. And it’ll be interesting to see just how much of a strength advantage he’ll have at 170 pounds. He was known for his wrestling and control while on the show and he’ll need to be at the top of his game in those areas to have any chance at all against “The Master.” Kim Couture — wife of UFC heavyweight champion Randy Couture — will also be in action at Total Combat 32 “Notorious,” facing Team Quest product Megan Gangitano. Total Combat also just announced a partnership with MTV 3, which will be the new home for the mixed martial arts organization. |
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UFC Fight Night 15 official salaries: Diaz, Sakara, Guida and Belcher top earners by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Sep 22, 2008 at 2:24 pm ET Headliner Nate Diaz was the big winner at the Sept. 17 UFC Fight Night 15 event; not only did he score a tough decision victory over Josh Neer, but he also scored the biggest reported payday with $40,000. MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com) requested and today received the list of official salaries from the Nebraska Athletic Commission, which oversaw the event at the Omaha Civic Auditorium in Omaha, Neb. The total disclosed payroll for UFC Fight Night 15 was $305,000. Other top earners included fight-night winners Wilson Gouveia ($36,000), Alessio Sakara ($34,000), Clay Guida ($26,000) and Alan Belcher ($26,000). All fighters doubled their base salaries with their "win bonuses," which is reflected in the figures below. These figures do not include four $30,000 "fight night" bonuses the UFC awarded after the event. As we previously reported, Diaz and Neer split Fight of the Night honors, Sakara earned the Knockout of the Night, and Gouveia secured the Submission of the Night bonus. UFC Fight Night 15, which was the first-ever UFC event held in Nebraska, reportedly drew more than 9,000 fans for a record venue $700,000 live gate. UFC President Dana White has already hinted that the organization could return to the state for a major pay-per-view event in the future since the "Fight Night" event proved so successful. The full list of salaries included:  Now, the usual disclaimer. The figures do not include deductions for items such as insurance, licenses and taxes. Additionally, the figures do not include money paid by sponsors, which can oftentimes be a substantial portion of a fighter's income. They also do not include any other "locker-room" or special bonuses the UFC oftentimes pays. In other words, these are simply base salaries reported to the commission and do not reflect entire compensation packages for the event. |
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All DREAM.6 fighters make weight by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Sep 22, 2008 at 4:27 pm ET All fighters competing in Tuesday's DREAM.6 event at the Saitama Super Arena in Saitama, Japan, have successfully made weight. The fighters hit the scales earlier today at the East 21 Hotel in Tokyo, Japan. DREAM.6, which features the semifinals and the finale for the DREAM middleweight grand prix, airs live on HDNet early Tuesday morning at 3 a.m. (midnight PT). Replays are set for Tuesday at 4 p.m. ET and Saturday at 6 p.m. ET. Also in action is PRIDE and UFC veteran Mirko "Cro Cop" Filipovic, who meets Alistair Overeem in a heavyweight bout. Additionally, Shinya Aoki goes for his 13th win in 15 fights when he meets former WEC fighter Todd Moore. The full weigh-in results, released by DREAM, included:
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Originally Posted by fufu
Nate Diaz is really making his mark. The UFC is good to him, he is definitely being built up, but not babied. I'd like to see where this kid can go.
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DREAM.6 Live Results Sep 23, 2008 1:01 AM John Chandler Photo courtesy of Fighting and Entertainment Group. We will be going live at 3:00 AM ET with live results of this morning’s DREAM.6 event, which takes place at the Saitama Super Arena in Japan. Those in North America will be able to watch the event live on HDNet. A replay of the show will air at 4:00 PM ET later today. DREAM.6 will feature the final round of the promotion’s inaugural grand prix. Melvin Manhoef will take on Gegard Mousasi and Zelg Galesic will face Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza with the two winners meeting in the show’s finale. Mirko Filipovic and Alistair Overeem will meet in an anticipated grudge match that will serve as the co-main event. Be sure to leave comments throughout the morning. Detailed live results are after the jump. Dong Sik Yoon vs. Andrews Nakahara Round 1: Nakahara lands a hard leg kick to start the bout. Yoon ducks a high kick and muscles Nakahara up against the ropes. Yoon pins him in the corner and then pulls guard. Nakahara stands up and the referee forces Yoon to stand up as well. Yoon grazes Nakahara with an overhand right. Yoon follows up with a left and then takes Nakahara down. Nakahara tries for a gogoplata but Yoon escapes and moves into Nakahara’s half-guard. Yoon attempts an Ezekiel choke with his gi. It’s not very tight and Yoon eventually lets go after about a minute. Yoon lays in Nakahara’s half-guard and begins to pound away with unanswered punches. Yoon attempts another Ezekiel choke but Nakahara scrambles and gets back to his feet. Nakahara lands two side kicks and then a high kick that stuns Yoon. Nakahara lands a knee that forces Yoon to shoot for a takedown. Nakahara stuffs it and knees Yoon in the head until the end of the round. Round 2: Yoon stalks Nakahara to begin the fight and they partake in a wild exchange that sees Nakahara drop Yoon. Nakahara pounces on him and pounds away with a number of unanswered strikes until the referee moves in and stops the fight. The stoppage comes at the 0:30 mark of round two. If either of the Middleweight Grand Prix finalists are unable to fight later in the show, Nakahara will serve as an injury replacement. Winner: Andrews Nakahara - TKO (Strikes) Melvin Manhoef vs. Gegard Mousasi Round 1: Mousasi throws a leg kick and jab to start things off. Manhoef misses with a leg kick and Mousasi shoots in for a takedown. He momentarily gets Manhoef down but Manhoef springs back up. Mousasi stays clinched with him and eventually muscles him to the canvas. Mousasi takes his back but Manhoef scrambles and lands on top of Mousasi. Mousasi immediately transitions to a triangle and locks it in. Manhoef picks Mousasi up, holds him up for a few seconds, and then slams him to the canvas. Mousasi keeps the triangle locked in and Manhoef is forced to tap out. The submission comes at 1:28 of the first round. Mousasi easily punches his ticket to the finals of DREAM’s inaugural middleweight grand prix. Winner: Gegard Mousasi - Submission (Triangle) Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza vs. Zelg Galesic Round 1: After a brief feeling-out period, Souza rushes Galesic with jabs. Souza catches a Galesic body kick and takes him to the ground. He quickly moves to side control and isolates Galesic’s arm while peppering him with punches. Souza mounts Galesic but Galesic sweeps him and lands on top. Souza immediately swings up for an armbar and gets it, quickly forcing Galesic to tap at 1:27 of round one. Souza now joins Mousasi in the finals of the middleweight tournament later on. Winner: Ronaldo Souza - Submission (Armbar) Keita Nakamura vs. Adriano Martins Round 1: Martins lands a leg kick to start the action. Nakamura misses with a few straight punches. Nakamura counters a Martins leg kick with a right hook. Martins rushes Nakamura with a flurry and drops him with a wild right. Martins gets on top of Nakamura but then decides to stand up. The referee forces Nakamura to do the same. Another intense exchange on the feet follows. Martins cracks Nakamura with a 1-2 combination and then tries a jumping front kick. Nakamura takes Martins down and lands some hammer fists in half-guard. An exchange on the ground causes a cut under Nakamura’s left eye. The referee has the ringside doctors look at the cut and Nakamura is permitted to continue. Nakamura backs Martins up with a pair of jabs. Martins tries a jumping knee. They clinch and are separated by the referee. Nakamura begins to pick Martins apart with his right jab. Martins pins him into the corner until they are separated by the referee. They exchange combinations until the end of the round. Round 2: Nakamura and Martins clinch to start the second round and move into the corner, where they are quickly separated by the referee. Nakamura lands another series of jabs and they clinch again. Nakamura trips Martins to the canvas but Martins quickly stands up. Another clinch in the corner is broken. Nakamura continues to land the right jab. Nakamura shoots for a takedown but Martins avoids it. Nakamura snaps Martins’ head back with the right jab multiple times. Martins misses a jumping kick. Martins desperately swings away with punches during the final seconds of the fight. MMA on Tap scores the fight for Nakamura. Two out of the three judges score the bout for Nakamura as well, awarding him a questionable split decision that should have easily been unanimous. Winner: Keita Nakamura - Split Decision Sergei Kharitonov vs. Jimmy Ambriz Round 1: Ambriz moves forward with some sloppy jabs and Kharitonov counters him with a left cross that drops Ambriz. He looks to be down and out but bounces right back up and tries for a takedown. Kharitonov holds onto the ropes and is issued a yellow card by the referee. The bout is restarted and Ambriz lands a couple of leg kicks. Kharitonov lands a hard body shot and then another. Kharitonov stalks Ambriz and wobbles him with a right hand. Kharitonov continues to rock Ambriz with punches. Kharitonov drops Ambriz with another combination and Ambriz quickly taps out. The referee moves in and waves off the bout at the 2:15 mark of the first stanza. Winner: Sergei Kharitonov - Submission (Strikes) Hideo Tokoro vs. Atsushi Yamamoto Round 1: Both fighters exchange jabs to start things off. Yamamoto lands a straight right. Yamamoto blasts Tokoro with a right hand and sends him falling to the mat. Yamamoto pounces on him but Tokoro quickly pulls a tight guard and regains his composure. Tokoro uses an armbar attempt to flip over Yamamoto and stand back up. Yamamoto stings Tokoro with a jab. Tokoro grabs Yamamoto with the Muay Thai plumb but Yamamoto lands a combination that forces Tokoro to let go. Tokoro attempts a flying armbar and then pulls Yamamoto to the ground. Yamamoto lands some punches and then stands, bringing Tokoro with him. Yamamoto lands two quick lefts. Tokoro responds with a right and trips Yamamoto with a leg kick. Yamamoto rocks Tokoro with a right and causes blood to pour out of his nose. Yamamoto stuns Tokoro with a left hook but Tokoro flops to the ground and pulls guard, where he stays until the end of the round. Round 2: Yamamoto pumps the jab to start the round. Tokoro lands a right and follows with a rolling bicycle kick that nearly catches Yamamoto as they go to the ground. Tokoro keeps a tight guard. Ringside doctors are asked to look at Tokoro’s nose and he is permitted to continue. The bout is restarted on the ground again but they quickly stand. Tokoro misses with a left, allowing Yamamoto to score a takedown. They stand once more but Yamamoto takes Tokoro down again. Yamamoto lands some punches and Tokoro reverses position. Tokoro fights for an armbar throughout the last minute of the fight but is unable to fully extend the hold, as Yamamoto defends until the final bell. MMA on Tap scores the fight for Yamamoto and all three judges do the same. Winner: Atsushi Yamamoto - Unanimous Decision Ikuhisa Minowa vs. Masakatsu Funaki Round 1: Minowa catches a spinning kick by Funaki and takes him down. They scramble on the ground and Funaki attempts a leg lock. Minowa gets out of it and tries to grab one of Funaki’s legs but Funaki switches to a heel hook. Minowa tries to fight it but Funaki cranks and forces Minowa to tap out while screaming in pain. The fight is over in just 32 seconds. Winner: Masakatsu Funaki - Submission (Heel Hook) During intermission, Fedor Emelianenko’s entrance music hits and he walks to the ring. He is handed a microphone and mentions that he hopes to be fighting on DREAM’s New Year’s Eve show at the end of the year. He says that he would be interested in fighting 2008 judo gold medalist Satoshi Ishi, who called him out months ago. HDNet’s Ron Kruck reports that DREAM officials may be attempting to match Fedor up against the winner of today’s heavweight showdown between Mirko Filipovic and Alistair Overeem. Hayato “Mach” Sakurai vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka Round 1: Sakurai misses with a spinning back fist in the opening seconds. They exchange leg kicks. Sakurai misses with an overhand right and Hironaka shoots for a takedown. Sakurai stuffs it but is soon tripped to the mat. Hironaka stands up in Sakurai’s guard and drops some punches before falling back down. They are stood up and Sakurai lands a body shot. Sakurai avoids a Hironaka takedown attempt and lands a straight right. Sakurai hurts Hironaka with two thundering leg kicks. Sakurai slips after attempting another leg kick and Hironaka jumps on top of him. Hironaka stays aggressive with a ground-and-pound attack. Hironaka illegally stomps Sakurai in the face while he is still down on the canvas. The bout is stopped and Hironaka is issued a warning. The two exchange body shots when the fight is restarted. Sakurai scores with an uppercut and straight right before the end of the round. Round 2: Hironaka rushes Sakurai and scores a takedown to begin the second round. In the corner, Hironaka reaches through the ropes to punch Sakurai. The bout is restarted in the center of the ring where they scramble and stand. Sakurai clinches and throws Hironaka to the canvas. Hironaka stands and eats a left. Both fighters stun each other during an exchange. Sakurai shakes off another Hironaka takedown attempt. Sakurai starting to land punches at will. Sakurai lands two knees in the clinch and then drops Hironaka with a left hook. Sakurai pounces on Hironaka but is unable to finish him before the bell. MMA on Tap scores the fight for Sakurai and the judges follow suit. Winner: Hayato Sakurai - Unanimous Decision Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Masanori Tonooka Round 1: Tonooka and Akiyama feel each other out to start the bout. Tonooka charges forward with a flurry but Akiyama avoids it. Tonooka misses with a jumping left hook. Akiyama fires an uppercut from underneath and then tosses Tonooka to the mat. Akiyama quickly moves to side control and eventually traps Tonooka in a crucifix. Akiyama punches away at a defenseless Tonooka before switching to a kimura attempt that Tonooka defends. Akiyama tries for an armbar but Tonooka again gets out of the hold. Akiyama mounts Tonooka and uses an armbar attempt to take his back. Tonooka bucks Akiyama off him and stands but Akiyama quickly takes him back down. Akiyama mounts Tonooka again and then locks in an armbar that forces him to tap out. The fight ends at the 6:26 mark of round one. Winner: Yoshihiro Akiyama - Submission (Armbar) Shinya Aoki vs. Todd Moore Round 1: Moore blocks an Aoki body kick to start the fight. Aoki shoots for a takedown but Moore stuffs it. They clinch against the ropes and Aoki quickly takes Moore’s back while they are still standing. Moore backs into the corner and Aoki locks in a rear naked choke. Aoki locks Moore’s hips and sits him down on the canvas where he is forced to tap out via neck crank. The stoppage comes at 1:10 of round one. Winner: Shinya Aoki - Submission (Rear Naked Choke) Mirko “Cro Cop” Filipovic vs. Alistair Overeem Round 1: Overeem throws Cro Cop to the mat seconds into the fight. Overeem opens up a cut near Cro Cop’s right eye. The referee stops the bout to have the ringside doctors look at the cut. Cro Cop receives a yellow card for stalling and the bout is restarted on the ground. Cro Cop pushes Overeem away and the referee stands them up. Cro Cop lands a leg kick and follows up with a high kick that is caught by Overeem, who tosses Cro Cop to the mat. The fight is paused again to allow doctors to check Cro Cop’s cut before starting again. Cro Cop looks to the referee after it hit him in the groin but the fight isn’t stopped. Overeem throws a few more knees that strike Cro Cop’s groin again. The fight is paused to allow him to recover. Overeem continues with knees in the clinch once the bout is restarted and once again, Cro Cop is struck in the groin. The bout is paused again and Overeem is given a yellow card by the referee. After a lengthy 7-8 minute delay, the referee is handed a microphone and announces that Cro Cop has been deemed unable to continue and the fight is ruled a no-contest. Bas Rutten reports that Cro Cop’s corner believes he has a very serious groin injury. Overeem apologizes to the crowd after the fight. Gegard Mousasi vs. Ronaldo “Jacare” Souza Round 1: The two measure the distance to start the tournament final. Souza shoots in for a takedown but Mousasi avoids it. Souza clinches with Mousasi up against the ropes and then slams him down. Mousasi keeps a tight guard until he kicks Souza off of him. Souza stands and then dives down with a few hard punches. Mousasi catches Souza with an upkick that knocks him out. Mousasi follows up with a couple short punches before the referee steps in, making Mousasi DREAM’s first-ever middleweight grand prix winner. The stoppage comes at 2:15 of round one. Winner: Gegard Mousasi - KO (Upkick) |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
^^ Yeah, Alistair was taking it to him until the low-blows. Pissed that this was a NC because I had money riding on Overeem.
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
I think Fedor will more than likely fight the Japanese Judoka on NYE considering he's already agreed to fight on the Affliction card a month later. Overeem vs. Fedor could be fun though.
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Thtas what he gets for not wearing the tight shorts.
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Arlovski-Nelson Tapped for CBS Wednesday, September 24, 2008 by Loretta Hunt (lhunt@sherdog.com) At least two fighters will not sit on the sidelines following the postponement of Affliction’s Oct. 4 “Day of Reckoning” event in Las Vegas. Former UFC champion Andrei Arlovski (13-5) and IFL kingpin Roy Nelson (13-2) have been offered a heavyweight bout at EliteXC “Heat” Oct. 4 at the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla. The event will be aired live on CBS. Arlovski’s management team would not comment Wednesday on the proposed bout, while Nelson’s attorney, Rod Donohoo, also refrained from remarks. However, Sherdog.com has learned from separate sources that both fighters have agreed in principle to the match and that contracts have been issued for review. The Belarusian-born striker unloaded a thrilling wave of jabs, straights, and fatal uppercuts en route to his early third-round TKO over IFL standout Ben Rothwell at Affliction “Banned” on July 19 in Anaheim, Calif. The victory capped off a four-fight win streak for the former UFC heavyweight champion, who rebounded from back-to-back Octagon losses to former champ Tim Sylvia in 2006. Unable to come to terms on a new contract with the UFC, the 29-year-old Arlovski walked away from the famed Octagon last July after eight years of service and a whopping fourteen appearances inside of it. He signed a three-fight, non-exclusive contract with Affliction Entertainment shortly after. A grappler by trade, Nelson actually rose to the top of the IFL's heavyweight crop with his unflinching striking, netting five back-to-back victories before the promotion met its demise this past summer. Nelson, 32, captured IFL gold with a second-round knockout of Brazilian wrestler Antoine Jaoude at the IFL “Would Grand Prix” finals in December 2007. The 32-year-old Las Vegas Native has banked his last four victories from KO or TKO. His only loss in the IFL came to Rothwell, who eked past Nelson with a split decision in April 2007. The last-minute addition will be presented as an Affiction-EliteXC co-promoted fight, and adds quite a punch to an already anticipated roster featuring a showdown between former Internet brawler Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson and UFC Hall-of-Famer Ken Shamrock. Female sensation Gina Carano is also on board to take on Kelly Kobald-Gavin in a 140-pound bout. |
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From Josh Gross: …on Thursday, Kim Couture rang about another crazy rumor that was going around. Someone, doing his best Lorenzo Fertitta impersonation, called the Xtreme Couture gym in Las Vegas. People inside Xtreme Couture scrambled when the fake Fertitta claimed Lesnar was injured, and the Nov. 15 fight was off. The rumor, however, was quickly quashed after confirming Lesnar, all 280 pounds of him, was fine. |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
The rumor has already been dispelled. Apparently it was a prank.
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Sengoku 5: Results The evening's full results were:
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Originally Posted by Richie1888
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Myth No. 3 Fedor is afraid of the UFC's rules. Fact Fedor fought under UFC rules and won. Proof Fedor has already fought under UFC rules in USA (vs. Tim Sylvia). He did just fine. |
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Myth No. 7 Fedor fights cans (weak fighters). Fact Fedor has fought more top-10 ranked fighters than anyone except Nogueira. Proof Guys that you don't know, and you see them on Fedor's record are his early fights, where he had to prove himself. He was unknown also, remember that! If you look at the record of any other top fighter, you will find cans on their records as well. Some cans you see on Fedor's record EARNED the right to face him. Example: Ogawa was not chosen by Fedor to beat up on. Ogawa won his previous Pride 2004 GP fights and EARNED the right to face Fedor. There was nothing Fedor could have done about that. Some cans you see on Fedor's record were not cans at the time of their fights with Fedor. Examples: That same Ogawa, besides being a four-time World Judo Champion and Olympic medalist, was bringing a 7-0 record to the Fedor fight. Schilt went 1-1 vs. UFC's best in UFC. Coleman was ranked in the top-three at the time of their first fight, etc. Nogueira was the No. 1 fighter in the entire MMA world at the time of his first fight with Fedor. Cro Cop was ranked No. 2 in the world for his title fight with Fedor. Herring was No. 3 back when he faced Fedor. Nogueira was No. 2 for his second fight with Fedor. Tim was No. 4, and Hunt was No. 9. |
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Myth No. 8 Fedor can't finish any top fighter. Fact Fedor finished three top fighters. Proof Tim Sylvia was ranked No. 4 in the world at the time of his fight with Fedor. Hunt was ranked No. 7, or No. 9 in the world, (depending on what rankings you look at). Coleman was in the top-three for their first fight (having only lost to Nog and nobody else) Fedor finished all three men in the first round. |
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Myth No. 9 Fedor has sloppy striking. Fact Fedor has the best striking in MMA. Proof How many fighters can you name (aside from Fedor) that have never been dropped, even to one knee, by any strike? (Don't worry, I'll wait) His defense in striking is astounding, as the above example shows. (Two other great strikers, B.J. Penn and Anderson Silva, may make a similar claim. Props to them.) The "loopy" "sloppy" boxing you see from Fedor is the product of different technique used in MMA due to smaller gloves, wider stance, and different weight distribution (in order to defend or prepare/set-up takedowns). Fedor's "loopy" punches curve AROUND the small blocking MMA gloves, and hit their target anyways. Example: See fight with Goodridge: Gary puts up a standard boxing block with both hands, but unfortunately for him the gloves are not big enough to cover an area big enough, and Fedor's "loopy" shots hit Gary on the ear, temple and neck. Another example: See Tim Sylvia fight. Tim is prepared for Fedor's lightning-fast left hook. Tim is keeping his right hand as high as you'll ever see anyone do it. Fedor leaps in with that left hook again and... horror or horrors!!! The hook lands DESPITE Tim's hand being in the way. Fedor's small glove sneaks thru right next to Tim's small glove and Tim gets hurt. (The above explanations are from Fedor himself, who has elaborated on this topic during a recent master class which you can also see on youtube, but in Russian of course) Boxing Champion Zab Judah was in attendance at Fedor's latest fight. He looked at Fedor's stand-up with awe and respect. Take Judah's word for it guys, he knows this stuff better than you and I. |
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Myth No. 10 Fedor is overrated. Fact Fedor is UNDERrated. |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
A bunch of those are kinda inaccurate though.
He never had a chance to put the rules in effect. It was a 36 second fight. I'd like to see what happens the first time he gets put on his back and takes a few elbows. This is a huge stretch. Back then the PRIDE mystique ruled the rankings world, fighters were ranked much higher than they deserved. Hunt is a perfect example. Nog and Tim are the only legitimate contenders he's ever faced. Yet another huge stretch. If beating up on fighters that are extremely one dimensional is something to brag about, then by all means have at it. Hunt is a kickboxer and had Fedor side mounted with a hammerlock applied for most of the round. Had that been someone like Barnett, we might not be having this conversation. Fedor does indeed have sloppy striking. How else does one break their wrist inside 30 seconds of a fight if they are striking properly? Brute strenght and crazy KO power, but horrid techinique. Matt Lindland took full advantage of Fedor's sloppy striking by getting inside the wide looping punches, establishing a body clinch and if it wasn't for Fedor grabbing the ropes, Lindland secures a picture-perfect takedown. All that from a natural middleweight. I don't think he's either. The concensus is he's amongst the top 3 P4P fighters in the world and I'd agree. Bottom line is, we're not calling the Patriots the best team in football this year beacause they won the Super Bowl a few years ago. Sports are all about "what have you done for me lately" and Fedor hasn't done a ton. I still agree he's probably the best heavyweight out there, but he hasn't been tested nearly enough. Though I'll be completely convinced if he can knock off Arlovski and/or Barnett. |
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Myth No. 9 Fedor has sloppy striking. Fact Fedor has the best striking in MMA. |
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UFC 93, Franklin vs. Henderson, and Coleman vs. "Shogun" announced by Dann Stupp on Oct 01, 2008 at 9:10 am ET The Ultimate Fighting Championship will head to Dublin, Ireland, for the first time in the organization's history for a Jan. 17 pay-per-view event at The O2. As MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com) first reported on Tuesday, the event features a headline bout of former UFC middleweight champion Rich Franklin (24-3 MMA, 11-2 UFC) vs. former PRIDE title-holder Dan Henderson (23-7 MMA, 3-2 UFC). Additionally, the organization announced UFC hall-of-famer Mark Coleman (15-8 MMA, 6-3 UFC) will meet former PRIDE stand-out Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (16-3 MMA, 0-1 UFC) in a long-awaited rematch. The Franklin-Henderson fight will take place at 205 pounds. "Rich Franklin vs. Dan Henderson is a battle between two great former champions who are both looking to get another chance to wear a world title around their waist," UFC President Dana White stated in a press release. "These are two fan favorites with a lot of pride on the line as they want to show that they are still among the very best fighters in the world." Franklin recently took his first light-heavyweight fight in more than three years and defeated Matt Hamill via third-round TKO at UFC 88. Aside from two losses to current middleweight champ Anderson Silva, Franklin has won his past 12 fights -- all but two via stoppage. Henderson, meanwhile, picked up his first UFC victory in more than 10 years with a unanimous-decision victory over Rousimar Palhares earlier this month at UFC 88. Prior to the loss, Henderson arrived from PRIDE and suffered championship losses to then-UFC light heavyweight champ Quinton Jackson at UFC 75 and Silva at UFC 82 "Dan Henderson has great credentials, and he is going to be one of the toughest fights of my career," Franklin stated. "That being said, I'm planning on winning the fight, and I'm looking forward to fighting in the main event and fighting in Ireland. I love the fans, and the way they react by singing and chanting makes it a unique experience for me." Coleman, meanwhile, will return to the octagon for the first time in more than nine years. After his induction into the UFC Hall of Fame earlier this year, Coleman announced he had signed a multi-fight deal with the UFC so he could return to competition. He was slated to fight Brock Lesnar in August at UFC 87 but was forced to pull out of the event with an injury. In February 2006 Coleman defeated Rua at PRIDE 31; Rua suffered a broken arm in the fight, and the bout was halted after just 49 seconds. Rumors of the possible rematch first surfaced over the summer. At the time, Coleman told MMAjunkie.com that he wasn't opposed to the fight -- but that it wasn't necessarily his first choice either. "I've never picked my opponents since the beginning," Coleman said. "I don't go around picking my opponents. I let the promoter do that. Whoever the promoter picks, that's obviously who the fans want to see. "If [a fight with Rua] is something that interests the fans, if that's something that the UFC wants to make happen, I don't go around turning down fights. 'Shogun' is fine." Rua will also return from recent injury. The Brazilian went under the knife after he made his UFC debut against Forrest Griffin in September 2007 and suffered an upset submission loss. Tickets for the event will go on sale shortly. |
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Wow! Who wrote that article?
Anderson Silva, GSP, Nick Diaz right off the top of my head are much better strikers. |
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Originally Posted by PreMier
i love rua, and even though he is fighting coleman(washup) i want to see him fight again
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Call me crazy but I want Coleman to win.
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Strikeforce: Payback Date: Oct 03, 2008 Location: Broomfield, Colo. Venue: Broomfield Event Center TV: HDNet
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EliteXC: Heat Date: Oct 04, 2008 Location: Fort Lauderdale, Fla. Venue: BankAtlantic Center Broadcast: CBS MAIN CARD (CBS)
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‘Karate Hottie’ Michelle Waterson readies for Strikeforce debut By: James Iannotti  Props: Strikeforce Quoteworthy: “It’s gonna be an explosive fight. I heard Tyra’s really aggressive and good on the ground so it should be very exciting for the fans.”“The Dean of Mean,” “The Hungarian Nightmare,” “Lights Out,” “The Iceman,” “The Arm Collector,” “The Baby Faced Assassin,” “The Axe Murderer” … Some fighters do a decent job of living up to their nicknames, but Michelle “The Karate Hottie” Waterson (pictured above) takes the cake. Oh yeah, the former bikini model will take on Tyra Parker tomorrow night on the Strikeforce: “Payback” card, which takes place at the Broomfield Events Center in Denver, Colorado and will air live on HDNet beginning at 10 p.m. ET. Yum. |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Definitely newsworthy considering how damn hot she is..
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Originally Posted by Richie1888
hell ye its newsworthy
the elite xc card looks not too bad not quality fights but worth seeing |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Yeah, it should definitely pull the ratings CBS is looking for. Throwing Arlovski on there last minute really added some legitimacy to the card as well. What I'm interested in seeing is how they plan on pulling off 5 fights on a 2 hour show..
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Originally Posted by Richie1888
they wont be doing ufc style promos for a start
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
I guess they're also counting on quick finishes, which all the fights should be.
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Originally Posted by Richie1888
whats your picks the repro
does kimbo get brought back to reality ? and effectively end elite xc i guess they might have one more event at least cause the carano santos fight should be a draw |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
I don't know much about the undercard fights but here are my main card picks:
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
I personally think Carano got bailed out. She should be fighting Cyborg. After Cyborg destroyed that Beszler chick, Carano got interviewed saying "Let's do this Cyborg!" Now they're not fighting
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Yeah, that would be a great fight me thinks.
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Jesse Taylor (6-3) v. Drew Fickett (35-6-0)  Taylor stops Fickett at Total Combat 32 Posted by MMAFighting.com 10/03/08—2:08 AM "TUF 7" cast member Jesse Taylor defeated Drew Fickett via TKO in the main event of Total Combat 32 Friday at the Sycuan Casino and Resort near San Diego, California. Taylor scored the early takedown and followed with ground and pound strikes for the referee stoppage victory at 1 minute and 42 seconds of the first round. Fickett walked away with a two-inch cut on his forehead. Taylor was let go by the UFC after his Peruvian necktie submission loss to C.B. Dollaway at UFC Fight Night: Silva vs. Irvin on July 19. Taylor had fought for Total Combat before, in June 2007, defeating Jorge Ortiz via TKO in the second round. |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Wait, so UFC dropped Jesse Taylor after his loss to CB? Jesus, I didnt think that would happen that fast, regardless of his loss of the "UFC Contract."
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
So heard there was a little skirmish at the Shamrock/Ferguson weigh-in...any videos? I can't find one. I think Elite is too cheap and will probably charge $5.00 to see it.
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Look at Shamrock's open handed strikes. Hilarious. Also look at how good his leg submissions were. He didn't even give his opponents a chance to tap. He'd just yank his hardest and break or tear something. Check out the one where the guy starts screaming. Shamrock's reaction is priceless. |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
If he threw a punch he'd probably have to surrender around 50% of his purse. At least that's how they do it in boxing.
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Originally Posted by fufu
So let me get this straight, were they to pose for pictures at that point? If so, Kimbo is such a tool. That is extremely disrespectful, the guy really needs to get knocked off his cloud if that was the case. Put him against a top 30 HW, please!
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Originally Posted by fufu
HAH, the guy sucker punches him twice and the other guy takes it like a fucking champ! BTW, who won that fight?
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Originally Posted by fufu
Me too, I want to see Shamrock crank off Kimbo's ankle resulting in multiple ligament tears in the knee.
Well, actually I'd just like to see him lose. I do think Kimbo needs a reality check though, not as harsh as I one I mentioned. It is kind of funny that Shamrock is fighting Kimbo seeing as Bas trains Kimbo and Ken beat Bas multiple times. |
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
Ehhh ... Bas lost twice by sub to Ken. Bas beat Frank twice and lost once. That, in my mind, makes Bas the most qualified to train Kimbo for a match vs EITHER Shamrock. Add in 23 more fights (all wins) since their last match as well as his experience as a top professional MMA trainer and Bas goes beyond the most qualified to being the only man for the job.
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Originally Posted by BoneCrusher
I'm all Kimbo on this one. I like Shamrock. I respect his skill level, and I see that these two fighters are in two very different classes and pedigrees, but Kimbo adds a dimension to MMA that was not here before ... i.e. brawler/boxer goes serious with his training to truly fight in MMA, not just toss bombs and hope he scores a KO (like Tank). Yeah yeah yeah, we've had fighters do this, but not with as solid of a street fighting pedigree. Kimbo was a serious money making professional non-sanctioned street fighter. Remember, Kimbo's pre-MMA street fights were all NO MMA style fighting allowed. It was all about stand up and swing for the fences 'til someone gets KTFO. Now he's out there training for sub's, take-downs, and MMA style striking.
I hope Kimbo fucks Shamrock up with some kinda sic take down followed by serious g&p, or even better ... a sub. |
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Originally Posted by fufu
I wasn't implying Bas wasn't a good person to have as a trainer, I just think it is funny.
If Kimbo's last fight is any indicator, his ground game probably is going to be way worse than Ken's. His ground skills in the last fight were laughable. I just hope we don't see two gassed guys drooling all over each other to a decision or a shitty TKO. |
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Originally Posted by Kimbo's MMA record at Sherdog
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UPDATE #2: They skipped the Petruzelli vs. Rosa fight. This might mean that Petruzelli is replacing Shamrock after all. UPDATE: We are now hearing that EliteXC officials may have found a doctor who may clear Shamrock tonight after all. EliteXC may be on the verge of dodging a bullet of epic proportions. Stay tuned... MMARated.com has learned from several very reliable sources that Ken Shamrock sustained a cut above his eye in the last 24 hours while training and WILL NOT be fighting in tonight's main event bout against Kimbo Slice. EliteXC officials are scrambling to find a last minute replacement for Shamrock. Amazingly, we have heard that Shamrock's brother, Frank, who is calling the event for CBS, offered to step in at the last minute but is ultimately not fighting. EliteXC has offered Slice a last-minute replacement in the form of Seth Petruzelli. Petruzelli was scheduled to fight Aaron Rosa tonight. As of right now, Kimbo has yet to officially accept the fight. More as we hear it. |
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Originally Posted by fufu
btw, I'll be in the chat room during the fights if anyone wants to chit chat between rounds.
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Yeah that jab straight left (was it?) didnt look powerful at all.
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Originally Posted by JailHouse
I think the fight was rigged to generate some talk.
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Originally Posted by P-funk
I felt that the last event (a few months ago) were kimbo fought in was better than this one.
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
From a talent standpoint this was by far the best card EliteXC has put together. Two fighters on this card are top 10 in their division (Arlovski and Shields).
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Originally Posted by P-funk
i am just looking at it from an entertainment standpoint. I don't know anything about those fighters (or most fighters for that matter). I don't follow the sport religiously, like you guys do. I just like to watch when the events come on.
I just felt like the last one was a little more entertaining. What is the deal? Are these guys allowed to fight in UFC and this federation? Or is it a one or the other thing? because it seems like a lot of these guys have had UFC fights before. And then that dumbass Tito Ortiz was there in the audiance saying he wants to fight in this federation. Is UFC starting to fade back and get challenged by other federations now? |
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Originally Posted by P-funk
I wonder why these other promotional companies can't make money? It seems like it is incredibly popular and they get a good draw to their events and lots of people watch (especially since you don't have to pay for it like you do with UFC). It just seems like it is an easy sell.
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Originally Posted by P-funk
I wonder why these other promotional companies can't make money? It seems like it is incredibly popular and they get a good draw to their events and lots of people watch (especially since you don't have to pay for it like you do with UFC). It just seems like it is an easy sell.
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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
Fedor is going to be let into the UFC to dominate and show who is truly the best fighter on earth. Are they waiting until the man ages and out of his prime? Its a joke!
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
I honestly don't think he'd dominate as much as people think he may.
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
If it was rigged it would have gone the other way. This is exactly what EliteXC didn't want to happen.
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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
Did you watch his last fight? He made Tim Silvia look like Kimbo did last night. He rocked him like Silvia has never been in a ring before. Fedor will dominate without a doubt. His only loss was BS call from the ref due to an illegal strike that left him unable to fight...it was a joke...so the man is undefeated and very dangerous if you ask me. I think he would dominate the UFC without a doubt.
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Yeah I thought the Sylvia win was definately an impressive one. But Couture also rocked Sylvia with ease so that didn't show me much. For a 6'8" striker, Sylvia has awful defense. He was scared of the takedown attempt and was overwhelmed by Fedor's wild punch volume. Gonzaga, Mir, Kongo, Nog, Werdum all have a shot against him. The HW division as of now is pretty weak, but everyone also said that Cro Cop was gonna run right through it and look what happened.
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
If it was rigged it would have gone the other way. This is exactly what EliteXC didn't want to happen.
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Originally Posted by bio-chem
is that hulk hogan to the back and left of shaw? (the viewers left)
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Yeah, Hulk was there with his new girlfriend that looks just like his daughter.
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Originally Posted by Doublebase
I thought that was his daughter.
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Not picking on you, but I am tired of the Fedor/Couture comparison cuz its still a total landslide.
Fedor & Sylvia = Tapout in the first minute of the first round Couture & Sylvia = Decision after 5 fucking rounds. |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Not picking on you, but I am tired of the Fedor/Couture comparison cuz its still a total landslide.
Fedor & Sylvia = Tapout in the first minute of the first round Couture & Sylvia = Decision after 5 fucking rounds. |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Yes Fedor has fought top talent, not taking that away from him but if I were to make an analogy I'd say that Fedor was in a non-BCS conference, playing chumps 90% of the time and only facing real talent once a season in the BCS Bowl game. If Fedor was in the SEC (UFC) facing top 25 teams all the time, there's no way in hell he'd still be undefeated. Just too much talent and far too many variables in MMA to say Fedor would steamroll everyone.
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"EliteXC: Heat" nabs 4.3 million viewers by MMAjunkie.com Staff on Oct 06, 2008 at 9:08 am ET Saturday's "EliteXC: Heat" broadcast, which aired on CBS live from the BankAtlantic Center in Sunrise, Fla., drew 4.3 million viewers, according to early ratings information available to CBS executives. The numbers were similar to the first "Saturday Night Fights" broadcast in May, which drew a solid average audience of 4.85 million viewers, and they were up sharply from the second EliteXC-CBS broadcast in July, which flopped with approximately 2.6 million viewers. These latest numbers do not include the final 20 minutes of the "Heat" broadcast (the event ran past its two-hour timeslot), so the numbers should increase slightly when the night's main event is factored in. However, despite the solid rebound in ratings, the latest "Saturday Night Fights" installment finished behind ABC's college football offerings, FOX's latest episode of "America's Most Wanted," and NBC's repeat of a "Law & Order: SVU" episode. Full ratings for the event will be available on Tuesday. "EliteXC: Heat" featured late replacement Seth Petruzelli's 14-second TKO upset of Kevin "Kimbo Slice" Ferguson, as well as victories for EliteXC welterweight champ Jake Shields, Andrei Arlovski (in a featured Affliction bout), top female star Gina Carano and Benji Radach. CBS has contracted four live broadcasts from EliteXC. The fourth offering takes place in early 2009. For complete "EliteXC: Heat" coverage, check out the MMA Events section of MMAjunkie.com. |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Who is Jared Shaw? I looked him up and found zip.
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Seth Petruzelli: Elite XC ‘didn’t want me to take’ Kimbo Slice down By: James Iannotti Props: Real Radio 104.1 “My original plan was to throw out push kicks, have him think that I’m gonna throw them more, and then to shoot in on him, obviously. But the promoters kind of hinted to me, and they gave me the money to stand and trade with him. They didn’t want me to take him down, let’s just put it that way. It was worth my while to try to stand up and punch with him.”Not like it matters now, but Elite XC fighter Seth Petruzelli talks about the promotion “hinting” to keep his fight against Kimbo Slice this past Saturday night standing rather than to try and take the street brawler to the ground. He ended up ending the fight standing in just 14 seconds. “The Silverback” indicated that he was paid “six figures” to take the fight against Slice, which is a nice payday for the former contestant on The Ultimate Fighter. The interview took place today on “The Monsters in the Morning” — a popular Orlando radio program in which Petruzelli is a regular guest to discuss mixed martial arts — on Real Radio 104.1. It’s a very interesting listen to say the least. |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Oh yeah if anyone cares, I was asked if I was in the UFC 2 weeks ago. When I said no, he said "aw, shit, I thought for sure with that chin you got."
I thought good things up until the point that I had to swallow the fact that my jaw has grown to an obvious size to get asked this type of question. |
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Originally Posted by Goodfella9783
Never knew that about Nog (the truck running him over). What a trooper he must be jeez. No wonder he can take such a beating in the octagon and still prevail.
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
Oh yeah if anyone cares, I was asked if I was in the UFC 2 weeks ago. When I said no, he said "aw, shit, I thought for sure with that chin you got."
I thought good things up until the point that I had to swallow the fact that my jaw has grown to an obvious size to get asked this type of question. |
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Originally Posted by ReproMan
Not a great example considering Randy's style is built around his strengths which are wrestling, endurance and intelligence. Fedor's strengths are his Sambo and his explosiveness. Two very different fighters and very different gameplans. Randy is more than happy grinding out a decision, utlizing his clinch game in order to mentally and physically wear his opponent out. Fedor is just balls to the wall right out of the gate, which is impressive but it doesn't work every time. Fedor was in real trouble more than a few times in his career, and if those fighters (Kevin Randleman, Kaz Fujita, Mark Hunt) were true top ten caliber fighters (which they weren't) we wouldn't be having this conversation.
Yes Fedor has fought top talent, not taking that away from him but if I were to make an analogy I'd say that Fedor was in a non-BCS conference, playing chumps 90% of the time and only facing real talent once a season in the BCS Bowl game. If Fedor was in the SEC (UFC) facing top 25 teams all the time, there's no way in hell he'd still be undefeated. Just too much talent and far too many variables in MMA to say Fedor would steamroll everyone. |
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Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563
Fedor is explosive and powerful out of the gate, but he has gone the distance quite a few times and his pace does not change much as the rounds go on. He really does not have any major flaws that I can tell. His only flaw is not being put in the ring at a UFC promoted event. I have spent so much time watching Fedor fights from the past and I see no major flaws in his standing or ground game. He can put you out with one punch, he can ground and pound, or he can submit a person all equally as well. His defense is equally as impressive. I have seem him get himself out of a lot of crap and in most cases turn the tides from getting ready to be submitted to submitting the other fighter. I really cannot think of anything he lacks in talent. Can you?
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Originally Posted by CORUM
what happen to all those people that THOUGHT kimbo was the real deal??? told EVERYBODY he is GARBAGE!!!! he got beat by a guy that couldnt hack it in the UFC. guess he is not ready for the professionals yet. he needs to back to the streets where he can punk those weak guys that cant fight!!!
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Did EliteXC Attempt to Bribe Seth Petruzelli? Oct 06, 2008 6:37 PM John Chandler It’s already been a bad start to the week for EliteXC because of the demise of Kimbo Slice and unfortunately for them, it could be getting worse. In an interview this morning with Orlando, Florida’s 104.1 FM “Monsters" morning show, Seth Petruzelli discussed his quick win over Slice on Saturday night. Normally it wouldn’t be a big deal, but it was what Petruzelli said close to ten minutes into the interview that has caught the attention of many in the mixed martial arts community this evening. According to Petruzelli’s original comments on the show, EliteXC officials offered to pay him extra if he promised to stand and strike with Slice. “My original plan was to use push kicks and have him think that I’m going to throw them and then rush in on him and take him down,” Petruzelli said on the show. “I have kind of an awkward style so I knew that I would do alright on the feet with him. The promoters kind of hinted to me, and they gave me the money, to stand and trade with him. They didn’t want me to take him down, let’s just put it that way.” Would the above be considered “fixing” a fight? I’m not going to dive into it too much but I’m sure one could certainly see it that way. MMA on Tap contacted EliteXC for an official response to Petruzelli’s comments earlier this evening but didn’t return comment by the time of publication. Since then, Petruzelli has told Five Ounces of Pain what he said on the show didn’t mean what everyone else now thinks: “What was meant to be said was that I wanted to keep the fight standing for myself because I knew that was what the crowd, the promoters, and everyone wanted to see because that’s more exciting than just taking someone to the ground,” Petruzelli said. “That was my thing only. I wanted to keep it exciting so I decided to keep it standing. It had nothing to do with anybody else. That was all me.”It’s key to note that on the show, Petruzelli was asked about his original strategy going into the fight before making the comment about EliteXC and their wanting to have the fight stay on the feet for the most part. Whether Petruzelli minced words and truly meant something else might not be totally known regardless since EliteXC will likely vehemently deny any of the reports out there completely and try to kill the issue. |
| Would the above be considered “fixing” a fight? I’m not going to dive into it too much but I’m sure one could certainly see it that way. |
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
How would that be considered fixing a fight? He traded, he got a hit, Kimbo went down. All while standing. So he shouldnt have down a ground and pound?
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Originally Posted by AKIRA
So they wanted to trade with him standing and if Kimbo got caught, let him fall and get back up.. Now that would declare a rigged fight..
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