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Posted by: Prince

What do you think?

Posted by: seyone

the Airline makes money by selling seats, if a person needs two seats for any reason he/she should have to pay for the extra seat. The airline shouln't have to take a loss.

Posted by: Prince

What if the plane is not full?

Posted by: ALBOB

Originally posted by Prince
What if the plane is not full?

Doesn't matter. If you're taking up two seats you should have to pay for two seats. The only exception I can think of on such short notice would be if a person can PROVE a medical condition which causes the obese condition. Even then I think the person should have to pay extra, but not the full two seat price.

Posted by: LAM

Charge them !

Posted by: Craft

Originally posted by ALBOB
Doesn't matter. If you're taking up two seats you should have to pay for two seats. The only exception I can think of on such short notice would be if a person can PROVE a medical condition which causes the obese condition. Even then I think the person should have to pay extra, but not the full two seat price.

Tough call on whether or not to charge them, but I voted yes due to the following answer from albob, I pretty much agree completely.

Posted by: ALBOB

Originally posted by Craft I voted yes due to the following answer from albob, I pretty much agree completely.

**ALBOB and Craft exchange cyber high-fives.**

Posted by: Chest Rockwell

If a person's chunk rolls break the
boundarys of the seats next to
them then the person should definitely have to
pay extra and book a row of seats for themselves.
But I like sitting next to really obese people
on the plane.
I like to suck on their big fat boobies.
It always helps me to fall
asleep like a baby.

Posted by: Jodi

Whenever I board the plane I always watch down the aisle for the big one and sit there and say: Please No, Please No, Please NO. Nothing is worse than being in those small seats and some obese person is leaking into your seat. I know that sounds cruel but they really ought to get two seat so it would be more comfortable for us and them.

Posted by: ALBOB

Originally posted by mochy some obese person is leaking into your seat

OK ALBOB, how crude are you gonna get today???

Nah, maybe next time.

Moch, as a courtesy to the next passenger that has to sit in that seat you may want to ask that the obese person use the lavatory instead.

Posted by: Mudge

Originally posted by Chesty Rockwell
If a person's chunk rolls break the
boundarys of the seats next to
them then the person should definitely have to
pay extra and book a row of seats for themselves.

You sure put that in a poetic tone!

Sounds cruel maybe, but I agree. I can understand that some people's depression just makes it worse, because they just keep on eating, but it doesn't make it ok.

Posted by: ALBOB

I've been thinking about this for a while and have come up with a question of my own. So far we've all assumed the person was "obese". (Safe assumption since that was part of the original question.) Would we all feel the same way if the person was a 300 pound body builder???

Posted by: craig777

The airlines get money per seat, just as a restaurant gets money for meals. If an incredibly overweight person went into a restaurant and said they should get two meals for the price of one because they are overweight they would not get it. Why should they get two seats for the price of one, or anything else for the price of one just because they are overweight. That is rediculous.

Posted by: Mudge

Originally posted by ALBOB
Would we all feel the same way if the person was a 300 pound body builder???

Interesting! I think though sure, if they were really that huge, but thats probably the guys that are 400 in the offseason, or Anthony Clark who just about needs to be wheeled in on a flatbed...

Posted by: TJohn

Originally posted by ALBOB
I've been thinking about this for a while and have come up with a question of my own. So far we've all assumed the person was "obese". (Safe assumption since that was part of the original question.) Would we all feel the same way if the person was a 300 pound body builder???

Hell no !! I 300 lb bber doesn't have a 4 foot wide butt !! He'd still be able to sit in the seat. But I'd feel sorry for anyone sitting next to him. He'd need some serious elbow room

TJohn

Posted by: Prince

I would like to hear the reasoning from the two people that voted no.

Posted by: TJohn

I voted no, my thought is every plane should have 4 or 8 (large seats) on board. There aren't that many truly obese people around that there would be more than 8 on any given flight. Anyway, planes aren't set up like that and airlines don't have the money now to make the changes. That's why I didn't comment.

TJohn

Posted by: Prince

I agree, it would be a good idea to have larger seats available.

Posted by: TJohn

Originally posted by Prince
I agree, it would be a good idea to have larger seats available.

I wonder how expensive it would be to outfit all planes with some larger seats ??? Probably a ridiculous number

TJohn

Posted by: LAM

I've seen them (extra wide seats) in some movie theaters...

Posted by: TriZZle305

i voted not sure but after TJohns reasons for voting no ill agree with him... good job Tjohn

Posted by: Dero

I voted "charge them"like it's been pointed out,the airlines make $ per seat,so why would one person get a freebee?Would I get a freebee if I wanted two seats?No siree Bob and I fit in one seat!!
I saw Mark Messier using two seats and he's a hockey player,not obesse just YUMONGOUS!!!!He does not fit in one seat!!!!

Posted by: Mudge

They could try to charge per pound, but like with the police forces formerly saying you had to be a certain height, some people said it was racial, since certain peoples are often short.

Posted by: kuso

I say charge the bastards. If the airline companies charge a 25month old child ( they DO I know ) then they damned well better charge someone thats taking up a lot more room .

Posted by: The Amazon

I voted no because I learned that on Southwest (the company who made a big deal out of this) the arm rests do not go up PLUS they still keep the plane full. They bump neither a skinny person nor the obese person. So the airline pockets the cost of the extra airfare and everyone is still uncomfortable.

Only the airline is benefitting, it is not like they are giving a rebate to the person stuck in the seat next to the large person.

that is a rip off!

m (heard this on another board from a pilot on SW)

Posted by: GardeningGrrl

I like the idea of the larger seats in theory, but can you imagine the fuss the other passengers would make? Airplane seats are so cramped as it is, people would complain because *they* want more room, and they won't care what the rationale is for giving larger people the bigger seats.

If Southwest wants to charge people for two seats, but there's no way that person can physically have 2 seats because the armrests don't go up, then they're full of shit. That's just ridiculous.

And I think the big bulky guys should pay double too! Like the hockey player example, these guys take up just as much extra room in a different way, with their legs splayed out and elbows gouging the next persons' sides......

As for charging twice in general, well.......in theory I'd say yes, that's fair.....but then the compassionate side of me says, is it really that big a deal? Especially on the shorter flights? Maybe it should be done just for flights that are 2 hours or more. Yes, I recognize that people have paid good money for their seats and deserve to be comfortable........but how often does it happen anyway that you're sitting next to someone that large?

In my previous life as a consultant, I flew a LOT - 2 flights a week, each week, for a couple of years, sometimes more....all that time I only sat next to a person once who was so fat that he was spilling over into my seat. He was clearly miserable, had to keep his hands clasped in front of him the whole time to try to minimize the space he was taking up....yes, I was squished the whole time, but he seemed a hell of a lot more miserable than I was. I could deal with the discomfort for a couple of hours...he has to deal with shit every day.

Okay, long boring ramble over now.......

Okay, one last thing - MUCH more often than that I sat next to annoying guys who thought they were somehow entitled to more space! As if!

Posted by: Prince

Well, they could charge more for the larger seats.

Posted by: kuso

And also I don`t think it matters if the plane is full or not....they charge you for excess baggage weather it is full or empty

Posted by: Miss LeDix

I agree with GG who mentioned that perhaps the rule can be enforced on flights that are of a certain duration. We'll see what happens...I can't see this really going on, it seems that the ADA or someone like that would seriously object.

And Prince...your avatar rocks!

Posted by: Triple Threat

Two things.

I've flown Southwest many times, and most of the arm rests do go up.

As for large athletes taking up too much room, I've heard (not confirmed, though) that sports teams buy 3 seats for every two players. That way they can sit 2 to a row, put the arms rests up,
and have plenty of room.

Posted by: GardeningGrrl

Originally posted by CaptainDeadlift
As for large athletes taking up too much room, I've heard (not confirmed, though) that sports teams buy 3 seats for every two players. That way they can sit 2 to a row, put the arms rests up,
and have plenty of room.

Smart move. But I would like to state for the record that a big hunky hockey player can sit next to me any time and put his hands and elbows wherever the hell he wants.

Yum.

Annoying businessmen with their masses of papers and loud computers (yes, some people don't understand the concept of muting) should be seated on the wings.

Posted by: Stickboy

I'd have to say charge them.

As many others have said, I've had to sit next to Mr or Mrs Bigass a few times on flights, and it ain't fun. Bad enough when they spill into your seat, OR insist on keeping the window seat (Hey, you got a big ass, and you keep getting up FORCING me to get up, why don't you take the aisle seat so I can sleep a bit), but the talkers are the worst.

I was sitting next to Mr Bigass on a flight to Germany a few years ago, and this bastard was complaining about how restaurants short him on food, never giving him enough. (ON and on and on - like I gave a rats rear end).

When the inflight meal came, I thought I would never hear the end of his bitching (I was trying to pretend to be alseep after a while, but did he shut up? NO). I finally told him that he could probably miss a few meals here and there and could he shut up so I could sleep. (Rude, I know). I guess his feelings got hurt and he finally shut the hell up.

Maybe I should buy two seats to keep the spill over from bothering me? Already started taking ear plugs with me.

Posted by: julinia

I voted yes to charging them.

I agree that anybody who needs 2 seats should pay for 2 seats (whether obese, big bb or superstar). The media is making a big deal like SouthWest airlines invented this idea...so many other airlines do it already.

The problem with society nowadays is that we are so conditioned to step up and say people should be as big and beautiful as they want (well maybe not here on IM

) without real contemplation and consideration to the health risks associated with these people. Every day on the news there is studies about how overweight adults and childrens are and about our unhealthy habits but the media wants to make the airlines look like the bad guys? please

no airline made anyone fat before!

Screw it, if it takes certain places getting a little hard on people for a segment of the population to get themselves to the gym and to eat and think healthier, then I am all for it. We have to stop all the excuses and get back into embracing the basics of health. Besides I am sure that there has to be a limit on the excess weight on the plane for safety reasons.

Posted by: david

That is a tough one but I had to say, "no" because in my many flights last 2 months, I encountered 4 heavy individuals and felt bad for them and actually let them have my seat (by trading with them)

Posted by: coleman

kinda related...what happens if a 7 foot guy sits in front on u in the movies and u can't see a damn thing and there are no spare seats? do u get a refund?

Posted by: esmerelda

One thing I think maybe a solution.......why dont they pay extra and fly business or first class........larger seats....more room....and still cheaper than the cost of two seats in economy!!!!

I was amazed at how much it was going to cost my family and I to travel across the state to visit my mother!!!! My 11 mth old (couple of years ago...and the price has increased since!!) was not allowed to travel on my knee.........we were supposed to get a seat for her.........like @#$#@ we were!!!! Hense we didnt go and made the old girl fly down to stay with us!!!!!!

Could they also send the smelly people down to the "holds" so they don't bother other flyers too??????

Posted by: ALBOB

Originally posted by esmerelda Could they also send the smelly people down to the "holds" so they don't bother other flyers too??????

Hey, Kuso has rights too.

Posted by: esmerelda

Opppsss!!!! Did you know the larger airbuses also have sleeping places for the stewards?!!!! Makes the mile high club a little more respectable!!!!

Posted by: ALBOB

Originally posted by esmerelda Makes the mile high club a little more respectable!!!!

There's an airplane charter service in Las Vegas that will take you up and fly you around for an hour or so. Yeah, so what, you ask? It doesn't have seats, just a queen sized bed in back with a sound-proof wall seperating the back from the cockpit. There's also a video camera set-up if you're interested. If I remember correctly the price is in the $400 range. No, I'm not speaking from experience.

Posted by: 007

Originally Posted by ALBOB

Next time you are on a plane and have an empty seat next to you; Don't use it. If you do for any reason, you should pay for it.

I don't see anything wrong if someone obese or not, using up an extra seat if the plane is empty.

If it is full, then they should have to pay for it.

How many times have you seen a kid lay down on more than one seat. Should they have to pay? I don't think so. Same for an obese person.

Posted by: Little Wing

Originally Posted by david

That is a tough one but I had to say, "no" because in my many flights last 2 months, I encountered 4 heavy individuals and felt bad for them and actually let them have my seat (by trading with them)

very nice. i tend to feel sorry for people too but i think i'd not like being made uncomfortable by a fat or smelly person. i think tho the airlines should make a few special seats available to accomodate larger persons. tough call.

Posted by: KentDog

Interesting topic. I think there should be special, bigger seats made available as someone had suggested, and have them cost extra. This would probably only be realistic on the big commercial planes.

When I read this thread, I couldn't help but think of handicapped people too. Accomodations for handicapped persons have been made, I don't see why accomodations for obese people couldn't be. It's unfair to have to suffer enormous discomfort because of an obese person.

Also, I do agree that it is outrageous that an infant would cost the same as an adult if they could just sit in your lap (if the plane crashes, you're all fucked anyway). Just sayin'.

Posted by: Rob_NC

Originally Posted by Robert DiMaggio

I agree, it would be a good idea to have larger seats available.

There are larger seats, it's called First Class. You pay more to be more comfortable. And a First Class ticket is cheaper than 2 Coach class tickets.

Posted by: crazy_enough

why not.....They can afford junk food, they can afford to pay for the extra room covered by their fat arse!!! lolol

But speaking as an "ex fatso", the simple fact(aside from discomfort) of knowing that ure taking up so much room and that other people can notice is often payment enough!!

Posted by: Witmaster

It is not uncommon for us to get passengers who try to get a flight attendant to move thier fat asses into first class after the plane leaves the gate.

We had this HUGE lady once, started making a scene. She was SO FAT the seat belt extender wasn't big enough. She was obvously uncomfortable cramped in her coach seat and was demanding that the flight attendant find her a First Class seat to accomodate her. Well there were no open seats so the fat ass starts yelling up to the front of the airplane calling all us "Rick Folks" to get off our High Horses and relinquish a first class seat for her.

The Pilot, did a U-Turn, returned to the gate where the fat-ass was promptly escorted off the airplane by federal agents for failing to comply with flight attendant instructions and harassment of other passengers.

In all my years of wirking for the airline this was the first time the passengers ever applauded the pilot for delaying the flight.

Posted by: Eggs

Make the fatties pay.

Posted by: The Monkey Man

Originally Posted by Witmaster

The Pilot, did a U-Turn, returned to the gate where the fat-ass was promptly escorted off the airplane by federal agents for failing to comply with flight attendant instructions and harassment of other passengers

Fat AAAAAnd a bitch!!!

Hooray for the Pilot

...

Biiiiiiitttch!

Posted by: TJ Cline

Eat big pay big.............................fatty!

Posted by: THEUNIT(XXL)

Originally Posted by esmerelda

Opppsss!!!! Did you know the larger airbuses also have sleeping places for the stewards?!!!! Makes the mile high club a little more respectable!!!!

Nice, represent!
Yeah they have beds in a whole diff compartment in there, but there's a larger one coming but it won't be ready till 2007.

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