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Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by katt View Post
So you failed or lost your colon at the 305?... or both? Those are still really great numbers for not having done them for awhile.
Thanks, katt.

I don't think there's anyway to lose your colon and call it a win.



Posted by: DOMS

Test-o-rama

I did the basic testing that my new routine calls for. Pretty much, I tested to see which handhold I was weakest on with benching.

The handholds are wide(index on the rings), medium (pinkies two inches inside the rings) and close (thumbs just outside the shoulders). It turns out that I'm weakest with the close hold. So that's the hold that I'll be focusing on.

I've attached my new routine in PDF format to this post. I'll start the new routine on Tuesday.
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Posted by: DOMS

I almost forgot! For getting my two PRs, I've earned the right to post a Grimey!





Posted by: Pylon

She seems to be excited about your PRs!



Posted by: Scarface30

yes, she seems to be rather excited indeed.

for some reason I can't open your workout file



Posted by: Witchblade

How do you plan to do 50 rep sets of pull-ups?



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Pylon View Post
She seems to be excited about your PRs!
I'm just glad I'm here to see it.



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Scarface30 View Post
yes, she seems to be rather excited indeed.

for some reason I can't open your workout file
I was able to open it. You do have Adobe Acrobat Reader installed, don't you?



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Witchblade View Post
How do you plan to do 50 rep sets of pull-ups?
Assisted, and with a lot of moxy.



Posted by: goob

I think you have an obsession with your colon DOMS. It's as almost as if you want to see it fly out of you. Still, good work on those deads, still way better than I could do.



Posted by: SamEaston

Hey DOMS - good to see you're back at it!

New program looks tough, watch out for those heavy skullcrushers. I swear they are the cause of my elbow pain.



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
I think you have an obsession with your colon DOMS. It's as almost as if you want to see it fly out of you. Still, good work on those deads, still way better than I could do.
Everyone has a hobby...

Thanks, goob!



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
Hey DOMS - good to see you're back at it!

New program looks tough, watch out for those heavy skullcrushers. I swear they are the cause of my elbow pain.
Thanks, Sam. I'll keep an eye on them. I have heard that heavy Skullcrushers can mess up the elbows. It's seems to happen to some and not to others. I hope I'm one of the "not to others."



Posted by: DOMS

Total Strength Program - Bench - Day 1: Seizure

This is another of Chad Waterbury's workouts. The TSP routine focuses on one of the big three (bench, squats, or deads) at a time. The goal is to put a good chunk on a person's PR for any of those exercises.

If you try to read the details of the workout without any explanation, you'll probably end up having a seizure.

The first two are triple-sets...sort of. Each set has 75 seconds between the three exercises, but they're done in order of a triple-set. I guess it's more like a circuit than a triple-set.

The BB Bench Supramax is done by loading up the bar with 125% of your PR, unracking it, and then holding it for 8 seconds, while keeping a slight bend in the elbows. Which can be pretty exciting if you're working without a spotter, like me.

There's something kind of...pleasing...about doing those. It's just feel good to unrack so much weight. The point of these is to get your body, and mind, use to handling that much weight.

The partials are a Bench Press, but you one do the upper half of the ROM. When the bar is at the bottom of that range, you bring it to a dead halt, and the power it back up. The point of this is to help with a sticking point.

All of that sure did beat the hell out of my traps and shoulder...in a good way.

While doing this routine, you're suppose to do just enough lower body to maintain.

Ummmm...no.

I did triples until I felt I could triple no more. Which is pretty much what I'm going to do for the remainder of this workout. Plus, I think for some workouts, I'll set the weight at 80% and do 10 sets of triples. Ala the Waterbury Method.

This is gonna be fun.


BB Bench Supramax/BB Bench Partial/Wide Grip Pull-up
255 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 165/3 @ BW (assisted)
255 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 165/3 @ BW (assisted)
255 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 165/3 @ BW (assisted)
255 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 165/3 @ BW (assisted)

Skullcrusher/DB Decline Pull-overs/Standing Hammer Curls
3 @ 75/3 @ 25/3 @ 45
3 @ 75/3 @ 30/3 @ 40
3 @ 75/3 @ 30/3 @ 40
3 @ 75/3 @ 30/3 @ 40

BB Squats
3 @ 135
3 @ 185
3 @ 235
3 @ 255


08/01/2008



Posted by: Pylon

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Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Thanks, Sam. I'll keep an eye on them. I have heard that heavy Skullcrushers can mess up the elbows. It's seems to happen to some and not to others. I hope I'm one of the "not to others."
I think it's all about form. Keep them elbows tucked!

Nice work there, btw.



Posted by: shiznit2169

Couple questions about your routine

1) What do you mean by "supramaximal hold"? Is that when you lower the BB to your chest for an 8 second count and then push up for one rep?

2) How does a partial bench press work? How far down do you go and what is its significance?

3) I noticed there are a lot of upper body work and rarely any leg work. Why is that?



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Pylon View Post
I think it's all about form. Keep them elbows tucked!

Nice work there, btw.
Thanks for the tip and the praise!



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by shiznit2169 View Post
Couple questions about your routine

1) What do you mean by "supramaximal hold"? Is that when you lower the BB to your chest for an 8 second count and then push up for one rep?

2) How does a partial bench press work? How far down do you go and what is its significance?

3) I noticed there are a lot of upper body work and rarely any leg work. Why is that?
1) You hold it near the top with the elbows very slightly bent.

2) You go halfway down. It's suppose to help with a sticking point in the lift.

3) This is a very goal specific routine. It's meant to help with the one specific lift. Either the Bench, Squat, or Deads. If you're working the Bench, you're suppose to just do maintenance on the legs. But me being who I am, I'll do more than that after I get comfortable with this routine.



Posted by: DOMS

Here's an article, over at T-nation, which discuses this routine. It's slightly different from what's in the book though.



Posted by: shiznit2169

Ah, i see. Looks interesting. May try it sometime.



Posted by: goob

Ohh...I like this new program. It looks pure evil. A DOMS speciality. Great job on the tripples!!!!

Colon expulsion, siezure, exploding appendix, combustable head....... What exactly do you do for a living Dr Moreau, er, sorry DOMS...



Posted by: Scarface30

pardon my French...but holy shit that's one ass-kicking workout! great stuff DOMS

a circuit, with 2 benching types and then pullups...I can't think of a word for that...really, I can't..



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
Ohh...I like this new program. It looks pure evil. A DOMS speciality. Great job on the tripples!!!!
Thanks, goob! Waterbury has some great programs.

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
Colon expulsion, siezure, exploding appendix, combustable head....... What exactly do you do for a living Dr Moreau, er, sorry DOMS...
Right now, I do a while lot of nothing...



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Scarface30 View Post
pardon my French...but holy shit that's one ass-kicking workout! great stuff DOMS
Thanks, Scarface!

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Originally Posted by Scarface30 View Post
a circuit, with 2 benching types and then pullups...I can't think of a word for that...really, I can't..
Fun? Today was ever so much fun. You'll see why in my next workout post.



Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 2: Ouch

Today's workout was all about active recovery. The idea is to do very high reps of light weight to get a pump. The pump helps to speed up the healing by quickening the removal of waste and brining into more nutrients for rebuilding.

In other words: ouch.

I was suppose to do 2 sets of WG Pull-ups, but that just isn't going to happen today. As it was, I had to break the first set into three smaller sets, with 30 seconds between sets.

DB Bench Press
50 @ 20
50 @ 20

WG Pull-ups
20 @ BW (assisted)
15 @ BW (assisted)
15 @ BW (assisted)



09/01/2008



Posted by: katt

slacker..... lol just kidding...



Posted by: SamEaston

Oh my dear God - 2 sets of 50 reps Bench after a heavy bench day yesterday??

Wow. Looks like this is another of those programs that's going to give you stupendous results, no?



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by katt View Post
slacker..... lol just kidding...




Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
Oh my dear God - 2 sets of 50 reps Bench after a heavy bench day yesterday??

Wow. Looks like this is another of those programs that's going to give you stupendous results, no?
The burn, and pump, for those 100 reps was nuts. After the 30th or so rep, it was all about willpower.

Yes, I'm betting that I'll get really good gains from this. The first routine of Waterbury's that I did, The Waterbury Method, paid off well. I have the same expectation from this routine.

Buying his book is really paying off.



Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 3: I like it!

This program is beating the crap out of me in new and interesting ways.

My whole shoulder girdle is beat to shit. I can see why Chad stressed recovery so much in this routine.

Now, a little explaining...

Explosive Push-ups are simply push-ups where, on the upward movement, you launch yourself from the floor. Which, oddly, isn't so easy if you weight over 210 pounds.

1/2 Dips are simply the dips done only in the upper 6 inches of the ROM.

I'm still getting a feel for the weight that I should use on the front rows and raises.


Explosive Push-up
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW

Chest-supported Front Row
3 @ 40
3 @ 40
3 @ 45
3 @ 45
3 @ 50
3 @ 50
3 @ 50
- Add 5

DB Front Raise
3 @ 20
3 @ 20
3 @ 20
3 @ 20
3 @ 20
3 @ 20
3 @ 20
- Add 5

1/4 Dip
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW


10/01/2008



Posted by: the other half

DOMS, if you need i have a connection in the health industry(son in law is a doctor) we can find you a new colon if need be. so you just go to town and dont worry about it.

that workout looks like it could be pretty interesting, good luck.



Posted by: b_reed23

wow....very VERY impressive....that looks so brutal I am at a loss for words



Posted by: Brutus_G

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Originally Posted by the other half View Post
DOMS, if you need i have a connection in the health industry(son in law is a doctor) we can find you a new colon if need be. so you just go to town and dont worry about it.

that workout looks like it could be pretty interesting, good luck.
Black market colon trade?

Lookin strong big D!



Posted by: Burner02

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Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
1/2 Dips are simply the dips done only in the upper 6 inches of the ROM.
oh...you mean what's normal...for most people...



Posted by: Scarface30

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
TSP - Bench - Day 2: Ouch

Today's workout was all about active recovery. The idea is to do very high reps of light weight to get a pump. The pump helps to speed up the healing by quickening the removal of waste and brining into more nutrients for rebuilding.

In other words: ouch.

I was suppose to do 2 sets of WG Pull-ups, but that just isn't going to happen today. As it was, I had to break the first set into three smaller sets, with 30 seconds between sets.

DB Bench Press
50 @ 20
50 @ 20

WG Pull-ups
20 @ BW (assisted)
15 @ BW (assisted)
15 @ BW (assisted)



09/01/2008
I see now what you meant by taking a look at your next workout...nothing like 50 rep bench pressing and 50 reps of pullups



Posted by: goob

Explosive pushups? I call these pylo's. Have you done them clapping DOMS? One of my favourite exerices, really helps stregnth I find.

Make them harder by raising your feet on a box about 1-2ft off the round..... a real whipper.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by the other half View Post
DOMS, if you need i have a connection in the health industry(son in law is a doctor) we can find you a new colon if need be. so you just go to town and dont worry about it.


At my last job, the secretary, who suffered from colitis, had her colon removed. Afterwards, she said, "Hey, now I have a semi-colon".

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Originally Posted by the other half View Post
that workout looks like it could be pretty interesting, good luck.
Thanks, man. Like I said, I really like Chad's stuff.



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by b_reed23 View Post
wow....very VERY impressive....that looks so brutal I am at a loss for words
Thanks, Billy! You should give it a try.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
Black market colon trade?

Lookin strong big D!


Thanks, Brutus! I'm really interested to see how I react to this routine. I just hit a PR of 205. I wonder how much higher this will take me.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
oh...you mean what's normal...for most people...




Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarface30 View Post
I see now what you meant by taking a look at your next workout...nothing like 50 rep bench pressing and 50 reps of pullups

Actually, it was 100 reps total on the DB Presses. 100 reps of anything will burn like habaneros on the way out.



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
Explosive pushups? I call these pylo's. Have you done them clapping DOMS? One of my favourite exerices, really helps stregnth I find.
I have done the clap version of these. I'm calling them Explosive Push-ups because that's what Chad calls them in his book.

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
Make them harder by raising your feet on a box about 1-2ft off the round..... a real whipper.
I'm already do a variation of them. When my hands leave the ground, so do my feet.



Posted by: goob

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Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
I have done the clap version of these. I'm calling them Explosive Push-ups because that's what Chad calls them in his book.



I'm already do a variation of them. When my hands leave the ground, so do my feet.
Holy shit, that must take some upthrust, plus you'd need to really tense your whole body. I like the sound of this.

What sort of height do you get to, at the apex of the upwards motion?



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
Holy shit, that must take some upthrust, plus you'd need to really tense your whole body. I like the sound of this.

What sort of height do you get to, at the apex of the upwards motion?
I didn't mean to do it that way, it just sort of worked out that way.

When my arms are fully extended, and the apex of my "jump", I can clear about 6 inches under my palms and just a bit less than that under the tips of my toes. It's not much, but I do weight between 210 to 215 pounds.



Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 4: Off Day



Posted by: the other half

i see you mentioned boise. did you grow up there? or did you just move there?



Posted by: DOMS

I just moved here. My plan is to hold up here until the housing market bottoms, and then buy a house in LA.

The only real thing that I've looked forward to here is taking Krav Maga. I visited the instructor earlier this week. He seems to know his stuff, has been at it for years, and goes to LA twice a year to recertify as an instructor. Once I'm employed again, I'm going to take three classes to make sure he's good. If so, I'm going to do it the whole year.



Posted by: SamEaston

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Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
The burn, and pump, for those 100 reps was nuts. After the 30th or so rep, it was all about willpower.

Yes, I'm betting that I'll get really good gains from this. The first routine of Waterbury's that I did, The Waterbury Method, paid off well. I have the same expectation from this routine.

Buying his book is really paying off.
He has a book out? Hmm . . . Interesting.

Is it full of new workout/program ideas, or just new and technically challenging ways to hurt yourself?



Posted by: goob

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Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
I didn't mean to do it that way, it just sort of worked out that way.

When my arms are fully extended, and the apex of my "jump", I can clear about 6 inches under my palms and just a bit less than that under the tips of my toes. It's not much, but I do weight between 210 to 215 pounds.
Yeah, that's pretty good going, especially for that weight. I'm still wondering how you manage to get your feet airborn too. 6-12" is around what I do, depending on how I feel, and how much is still left in the tank, and i'm a lot lighter.

A great movement by all accounts.



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
He has a book out? Hmm . . . Interesting.
Yes, he does. You can read about it over at T-Nation.

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Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
Is it full of new workout/program ideas, or just new and technically challenging ways to hurt yourself?
Can't is be both?



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by goob View Post
Yeah, that's pretty good going, especially for that weight. I'm still wondering how you manage to get your feet airborn too. 6-12" is around what I do, depending on how I feel, and how much is still left in the tank, and i'm a lot lighter.

A great movement by all accounts.
Thanks, goob.

Well, I just did one to find out how I perform them. I do it with a slight bend in my knees (to generate the force on my toes). I'm not 100% certain, but I think my feet leave the floor a millisecond or two before my hands do.



Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 5: Dammit!

I forgot to one of the key things in this routine: hand placement. I'm suppose to use my weakest hand position when benching. Which, for me, is just outside the shoulders. So I made it a point to do it this workout. That made a huge difference on how the benching felt. I also had to drop the weight by 20 pounds.

I've gotten to the point where I can easily do Dips unassisted. Which, considering that I've been doing Dips for a very shot time, is a pretty big deal for me.

The only exericise that needs explaining this time is the BB Bench Partial Bottoms. This is simply doing the bottom half of the normal ROM, making sure to do a dead, 1 second, halt at the bottom. Just like the statics I did in the first workout, this is meant to help with a common sticking point.

My Deads have really taken a hit from not doing them in more than four months. Well, I get it back soon.

Update: Like a fucking putz, I just realized that I forgot to do the workouts in triset, and superset, formats. I just did them as straight exercises. Now I'm fucking pissed.


BB Bench Partial Bottom
155 @ 3
155 @ 3
155 @ 3
155 @ 3
155 @ 3

DB Face-down Side Raises
20 @ 3
20 @ 3
20 @ 3
20 @ 3
20 @ 3
- Add 5

Half Dip
BW @ 3
BW @ 3
BW @ 3
BW @ 3
BW @ 3

DB Decline Pull-over
30 @ 3
30 @ 3
30 @ 3
30 @ 3
30 @ 3

DB External Rotation
20 @ 3
20 @ 3
20 @ 3
20 @ 3
20 @ 3
- Add 5

Deadlifts
135 @ 3
185 @ 2
225 @ 1
255 @ 1


12/01/2008



Posted by: DOMS





Posted by: Brutus_G

Its funny your weakest position on the bench is my strongest position. GJ on the dips D.



Posted by: NordicNacho

looks like a good work out.



Posted by: Witchblade

How are you digging all the low rep stuff?



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
Its funny your weakest position on the bench is my strongest position. GJ on the dips D.
Thanks, Brutus! It's a sure sign that my upper body development is coming along.

Mid to wide is how I've been benching forever. It makes sense why narrow is my weakest position.



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by NordicNacho View Post
looks like a good work out.
Thanks, man. You should check out Chad's book. It has plenty of good routines like this.



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Witchblade View Post
How are you digging all the low rep stuff?
It's my favorite. I usually workout in the 3-6 rep range. Though I usually don't go below 3 reps.



Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 6

Another active recovery workout.

DB Bench Press
50 @ 20
50 @ 20

WG Pull-ups
25 @ BW (assisted)
25 @ BW (assisted)
15 @ BW (assisted)



13/01/2008



Posted by: b_reed23

damn....it wears me out to even read those workouts!!



Posted by: katt

This wo method looks pretty interesting.... I'll have to read up on it .



Posted by: soxmuscle

20 reps of 50 pounds. Nice endurance.



Posted by: Scarface30

shitty about forgetting the triset/circuit there, but it still looks like a killer workout, man

and another 100 reps on the DB BENCH...got it right this time around, yeah! killer stuff!



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by b_reed23 View Post
damn....it wears me out to even read those workouts!!
Thanks, Billy! They're pretty damn fun.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by katt View Post
This wo method looks pretty interesting.... I'll have to read up on it .
It's all in Chad's book.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by soxmuscle View Post
20 reps of 50 pounds. Nice endurance.
Thanks, man. It's been a loooong time since I've done reps that high.



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Scarface30 View Post
shitty about forgetting the triset/circuit there, but it still looks like a killer workout, man

and another 100 reps on the DB BENCH...got it right this time around, yeah! killer stuff!
Thanks, man! I redeemed myself today!



Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 7

I'm still getting a feel for the weights on the Upright Power Rows and the EZ Bar Reverse Curls.

I dropped the weight on the Supremaxes because I moved my hands to the weakest position. Which is how I'm suppose to do them.


BB Bench Supramax/BB Bench Partial/Chest-supported Row
220 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 165/3 @ 50
220 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 165/3 @ 50
220 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 165/3 @ 50
220 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 165/3 @ 50
220 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 165/3 @ 50

DB Decline/Upright Power Row/EZ Bar Reverse Curl
3 @ 30/3 @ 25/3 @ 40
3 @ 30/3 @ 35/3 @ 50
3 @ 30/3 @ 35/3 @ 55
3 @ 30/3 @ 50/3 @ 55
3 @ 30/3 @ 55/3 @ 60



14/01/2008



Posted by: Witchblade

Quote:
Originally Posted by soxmuscle View Post
20 reps of 50 pounds. Nice endurance.
I thought it was 50 reps @ 20 pounds?

Trisets at heavy weights, that can get really tiring. Program looks like fun.



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Witchblade View Post
I thought it was 50 reps @ 20 pounds?
Oops. I missed that. WB you're right, it's 20 pounds at 2 sets of 50 reps.



Posted by: 33sun33

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Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Oops. I missed that. WB you're right, it's 20 pounds at 2 sets of 50 reps.

Man, 50 reps of anything sounds exhausting. Very interesting workouts there Doms



Posted by: the other half

so, if you lose count, do you stop and start all over agian? lol. no, really, do you get bored while you are doing these? i have a hard time doing 15 reps before the the boredom kicks in.

anyways, i bow to your dedication on this workout.



Posted by: b_reed23

how many days a week is this program, and how long did the last couple workouts take?



Posted by: Gazhole

Fucking hell, and i thought i was doing high reps. You are a kielbasa to my cocktail sausage, Master DOMS.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by 33sun33 View Post
Man, 50 reps of anything sounds exhausting. Very interesting workouts there Doms
Thanks, man! I'm a big fan of Chad's routines.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by the other half View Post
so, if you lose count, do you stop and start all over agian? lol. no, really, do you get bored while you are doing these? i have a hard time doing 15 reps before the the boredom kicks in.
You laugh, and feel the need to explain yourself, but I know exactly what you mean. During the first set of 50, I've lost count a couple of times. But I err on the side of less, so I probably end up doing more like 60 reps. But on the second set, the burn is so bad, I focus on just the numbers just to make it through. So I don't tend to lose count on that set.

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Originally Posted by the other half View Post
anyways, i bow to your dedication on this workout.
Thanks, man!



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by b_reed23 View Post
how many days a week is this program, and how long did the last couple workouts take?
This routine only has 4 working days. But two of the three recovery days are active recovery. So I'm supposed to abstain from the weights for 1 day a week. But, now that I'm at the end of week 1, my lats are so sore that I'm going to fit in one extra recovery (not the active type) between weeks.

Each workout takes about 40-45 minutes.



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
Fucking hell, and i thought i was doing high reps. You are a kielbasa to my cocktail sausage, Master DOMS.


50 reps is waaaay above my usual amount. I usually keep it in the 3-10 range.



Posted by: SamEaston

Hey DOMS - hows things?

It's good to chuck in very high reps every now and again. I did a 40 rep bench once, just to see if i could really, and i swear i couldn't push doors open for 4 days!!



Posted by: Gazhole

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Originally Posted by DOMS View Post


50 reps is waaaay above my usual amount. I usually keep it in the 3-10 range.
Looks like youve been limiting yourself, you seem to be handling this insanity well enough, dude!



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
Hey DOMS - hows things?
Except for being unemployed, things are going pretty damn well. Well...expect for my left elbow...

You told me to watch out on the Skullcrushers, and I did. I have a little bit of pain in my left elbow, but I'm not sure if it's from the Skullcrushers or an injury. I'll have to keep an eye on it.

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Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
It's good to chuck in very high reps every now and again. I did a 40 rep bench once, just to see if i could really, and i swear i couldn't push doors open for 4 days!!
I'm in 100% agreement. I think tossing in some high reps from time to time has many good things going for it.



Posted by: DOMS

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Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
Looks like youve been limiting yourself, you seem to be handling this insanity well enough, dude!
Thanks, Gaz!

I do mix things up. But I usually do it by increasing the density of workouts, not the reps. But I think I'll do a lot more active recovery from now on.



Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 8: Elbowed

Like I said to Sam, I have some pain in my left elbow. I'm not sure if it's because of any particular exercise or when I mixed it up with a girl scout on Monday (she won). Only time will tell.

I did reach a goal today. All without planning too. On my first rep of WG Pull-ups, forgetting that I've only ever been able to do them assisted, I grabbed the bar and did an easy, unassisted, pull-up. My first one ever. Onward and upward!

I only did 1 set of Squats because at the final rep of that set, I popped the only button on my shorts, my shorts dropped to my knees, and went into a laughing fit. Which almost made me drop the bar. I usually wear elastics shorts.

BB Bench Supramax/BB Bench Partial/Wide Grip Pull-up
225 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 175/3 @ BW (assisted)
225 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 175/3 @ BW (assisted)
225 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 175/3 @ BW (assisted)
225 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 175/3 @ BW (assisted)

Skullcrusher/DB Decline Pull-overs/Standing Hammer Curls
3 @ 80/3 @ 25/3 @ 45
3 @ 80/3 @ 30/3 @ 40
3 @ 80/3 @ 30/3 @ 40
3 @ 80/3 @ 30/3 @ 40

BB Squats
3 @ 220



Posted by: JailHouse

good job one that wo. that supermax looks intresting.



Posted by: NordicNacho

Try fish oil for the joint pain its like 10 dollars a bottle at Costco and take around 15 a day.

trust me

My cousin lost her job in salt lake and it really crushed her she was a broker. Wishing you a great year to come everything happens for a reason.



Posted by: Gazhole

Fish Oil and glucosamine sulphate did wonders for my joint pain, really good stuff.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Good work DOMS! you just passed a big hurdel. Good work on the whole button poppin!



Posted by: soxmuscle

Supramax?



Posted by: SamEaston

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Except for being unemployed, things are going pretty damn well. Well...expect for my left elbow...

You told me to watch out on the Skullcrushers, and I did. I have a little bit of pain in my left elbow, but I'm not sure if it's from the Skullcrushers or an injury. I'll have to keep an eye on it.
Hmm, the thing with Skullcrushers is that everyone keeps banging on 'form, form, form. You've got to have strict form otherwise you'll get injured.'

You know what? I think Skullcrushers is just one of those things that causes problems, kind of like Upright Rows.

I can recommend Emu Oil and Glucosamine gel for elbow pain. You'll get it out of most health food/supplement shops i would imagine, although i hope you recover fully before you need it - obviously

Laughed out loud at the fact that you popped your button on your shorts - hilarious

And nice one on the BW Pullup, may there be many more to come!



Posted by: kiko

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
[b]
I only did 1 set of Squats because at the final rep of that set, I popped the only button on my shorts, my shorts dropped to my knees, and went into a laughing fit. Which almost made me drop the bar. I usually wear elastics shorts.
That's not a good reason to stop an exercise. Forget about the shorts and keep squating!



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by JailHouse View Post
good job one that wo. that supermax looks intresting.
Thanks, man! They're a blast.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by NordicNacho View Post
Try fish oil for the joint pain its like 10 dollars a bottle at Costco and take around 15 a day.

trust me
Thanks, Nordic. I'm already taking Glucosamine/Chondroitin, MSM, and fish oil. They're part of daily pill-fest.

Quote:
Originally Posted by NordicNacho View Post
My cousin lost her job in salt lake and it really crushed her she was a broker. Wishing you a great year to come everything happens for a reason.
Sorry to hear about your cousin. But the employment sector in SLC is booming. She should be able to get a job pretty quickly.

Thanks, and may you have a good year also.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
Fish Oil and glucosamine sulphate did wonders for my joint pain, really good stuff.
Thanks, Gaz. I've been taking it for a while. Someone on IM turned me on to it.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
Good work DOMS! you just passed a big hurdel. Good work on the whole button poppin!

Thanks, Brutus! I'd almost given up on be able to do it.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by soxmuscle View Post
Supramax?
You load up the bar with 125% of your PR. Then you un-rack it, put a slight bend in your arms, and hold it for 8 seconds, then re-rack it.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
Hmm, the thing with Skullcrushers is that everyone keeps banging on 'form, form, form. You've got to have strict form otherwise you'll get injured.'

You know what? I think Skullcrushers is just one of those things that causes problems, kind of like Upright Rows.

I can recommend Emu Oil and Glucosamine gel for elbow pain. You'll get it out of most health food/supplement shops i would imagine, although i hope you recover fully before you need it - obviously

Laughed out loud at the fact that you popped your button on your shorts - hilarious

And nice one on the BW Pullup, may there be many more to come!
Thanks, Sam!

I'm already taking Glucosamine, but I'll see if I can find some Emu oil.

You're laughing with me right?






Thanks for the support with my pull-ups, too!



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by kiko View Post
That's not a good reason to stop an exercise. Forget about the shorts and keep squating!
I'm on it!



Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 9

DB Bench Press
50 @ 20
50 @ 20

WG Pull-ups
25 @ BW (assisted)
25 @ BW (assisted)



17/01/2008[/quote]



Posted by: Scarface30

nice tri-setting above, man an awesome stuff with the pullup, probably the hardest upper body movement in my opinion..I forsee many more in the future.



Posted by: Burner02

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
You load up the bar with 125% of your PR. Then you un-rack it, put a slight bend in your arms, and hold it for 8 seconds, then re-rack it.
I know that by: Static holds.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarface30 View Post
nice tri-setting above, man an awesome stuff with the pullup, probably the hardest upper body movement in my opinion..I forsee many more in the future.
Thanks, man. I agree with your sentiment on the pull-ups.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Burner02 View Post
I know that by: Static holds.
I just call them what Chad calls them in his book.



Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 12: More of the Same

I forget to mention how this routine progresses from weeks 2-7. For day 1, I add 2% to each exercise per week. For day three (today's workout), I add 1 set to each exercise (to 13 sets at week 7). For day 5, I cut 5 seconds off the RI.

I'm really feeling a difference in my upper body strength. Most certainly in the pull-ups and the dips.

Even though today's progression is suppose to be in sets, I decided to add 5 pounds to the DB Front Raises. They just weren't hard enough to feel satisfying.


Explosive Push-up
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW

Chest-supported Front Row
3 @ 55
3 @ 55
3 @ 55
3 @ 55
3 @ 55
3 @ 55
3 @ 55
3 @ 55


DB Front Raise
3 @ 20
3 @ 20
3 @ 20
3 @ 20
3 @ 20
3 @ 25
3 @ 25
3 @ 25


1/4 Dip
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW
3 @ BW


18/01/2008



Posted by: yellowmoomba

I'm curious - What's the goal of this program ??



Posted by: goob

Excellent workout DOMS. Looks typically punishing.

I think you deserve this...




Posted by: the other half

i guess i better start working out alittle harder, that is better than getting a gold star any day.



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by the other half View Post
i guess i better start working out alittle harder, that is better than getting a gold star any day.
And waaayy better than getting a brown star......



Posted by: the other half

that depends on who your workout partner is!!!!!

well now that i think about it, maybe not.



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by the other half View Post
that depends on who your workout partner is!!!!!

well now that i think about it, maybe not.
katt will be maaaaaaad



Posted by: the other half

agian



Posted by: Big G

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
It's my favorite. I usually workout in the 3-6 rep range. Though I usually don't go below 3 reps.
Because that's what you enjoy, or...?

When I do 3 of something it's usually because I couldn't do 4 (often-times anyway). If I did 8x3, for example, I'd have to be stepping the weight as I went.

You going for mass/strength/endurance? Are you happy w/results?



Posted by: Big G

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
It's all in Chad's book.
Chad's book?



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by yellowmoomba View Post
I'm curious - What's the goal of this program ??
To add an ungodly amount on my bench. It targets the muscles (including the supporting muscles) and sticking points of the Bench.

This routine can also be used on squats and deads.



Posted by: DOMS

Thanks, goob!

Quote:
Originally Posted by goob View Post
Excellent workout DOMS. Looks typically punishing.

I think you deserve this...




Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big G View Post
Because that's what you enjoy, or...?

When I do 3 of something it's usually because I couldn't do 4 (often-times anyway). If I did 8x3, for example, I'd have to be stepping the weight as I went.

You going for mass/strength/endurance? Are you happy w/results?
I do the 3-6 rep range because I like it and it has worked for me pretty good so far. I do make a point to go outside of that with various routines. HIT being one such routine.

My goal is strength and mass, with strength being foremost.

Happy with the results of low rep or this routine? Which ever it is, I'm happy with both. This routine has brought me to the level where I can do Dips and Pull-ups unassisted.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Big G View Post
Chad's book?
Chad Waterbury's book, Muscle Revolution. You can read about it over at T-Nation.



Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 13: Off Day



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
I do the 3-6 rep range because I like it and it has worked for me pretty good so far. I do make a point to go outside of that with various routines. HIT being one such routine.

My goal is strength and mass, with strength being foremost.

Happy with the results of low rep or this routine? Which ever it is, I'm happy with both. This routine has brought me to the level where I can do Dips and Pull-ups unassisted.
I also get the most out of 3-6 range. Its great for strength and mass, but when the calories are cut, the strength goes to poopoo.



Posted by: fufu

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
I also get the most out of 3-6 range. Its great for strength and mass, but when the calories are cut, the strength goes to poopoo.
lawl

same here. 3-6 is also great because you can avoid getting any kind of conditioning with those reps. Breathing sucks!



Posted by: JailHouse

nice work out. I also like the 3-6 rep range. All those sets with ur 3 rep max sounds like a nice mass builder.



Posted by: SamEaston

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post

You're laughing with me right?
Absolutely hunny

Nice going with these super-tough workouts. You're going to be a proper he-man soon enough!

I threw a couple of the spectacular 10 x 3 's from your previous program into my training for Bench and Squats today. Worked pretty well, i enjoyed it. I did acknowledge your expertise in my journal although im sure everyone here knows that if they see a crazy workout it's been through the minds of at least one of you or Goob!



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
I also get the most out of 3-6 range. Its great for strength and mass, but when the calories are cut, the strength goes to poopoo.
What does it mean by "calories are cut"?



I've never been.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
lawl

same here. 3-6 is also great because you can avoid getting any kind of conditioning with those reps. Breathing sucks!
Breathing sucks?



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by JailHouse View Post
nice work out. I also like the 3-6 rep range. All those sets with ur 3 rep max sounds like a nice mass builder.
Thanks, JailHouse. This routine is geared for strength, but I'm betting I pick up some mass, too.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
Absolutely hunny

Nice going with these super-tough workouts. You're going to be a proper he-man soon enough!

I threw a couple of the spectacular 10 x 3 's from your previous program into my training for Bench and Squats today. Worked pretty well, i enjoyed it. I did acknowledge your expertise in my journal although im sure everyone here knows that if they see a crazy workout it's been through the minds of at least one of you or Goob!
Thanks, Sam!

So, how do you like those 10x3s?



Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 12

I made sure to do my routine in the proper superset/triset way. I also, a per the routine, cut 5 seconds off my RI. Which is down to 75 seconds. That's a long time in my book, but by week 7, will be down to 50 seconds. That's still a long time, but that's what this routine calls for.

I also made a bit of progress back to my old Dead PR.


BB Bench Partial Bottom/DB Face-down Side Raises
3 @ 155/3 @ 25
3 @ 155/3 @ 25
3 @ 155/3 @ 25
3 @ 155/3 @ 25
3 @ 155/3 @ 25

Half Dip/DB Decline Pull-over/DB External Rotation
3 @ BW/3 @ 30/3 @ 20
3 @ BW/3 @ 30/3 @ 20
3 @ BW/3 @ 30/3 @ 20
3 @ BW/3 @ 30/3 @ 20
3 @ BW/3 @ 30/3 @ 20

Deadlifts
135 @ 3
185 @ 2
225 @ 1
255 @ 1
265 @ 1


20/01/2008



Posted by: DOMS

Dreaming...

First off, I should point out that I've never been to London. Not once.

For the last few weeks, I've been having a lot of dreams about being in London. Which, in itself, is kind of weird. I don't usually have dreams. I usually, upwards of 95% of the time, have nightmares.

Now, before you say something like "Having nightmares that often is a sign of...", stop. I like my nightmares. I've liked them since I was young. So for over two decades, I've trained myself to have nightmares instead of dreams.

Anyway, I keep having dreams about being in London and now I feel driven to go. Which is pretty shitty considering the USD/EURO exchange rate. The dreams are pretty simple affairs. I'm near some old double-story cottage-type building and I'm trying to help someone do something. Most of the details are lost to me.

I don't usually put too much credit, or even interest, in dreams, but I've never felt driven by dreams before. So I've to plan a way to London.

I really hate dreams.



Posted by: Brutus_G

Quote:
Originally Posted by fufu View Post
lawl

same here. 3-6 is also great because you can avoid getting any kind of conditioning with those reps. Breathing sucks!
DAM straight! Especially on squats and deads.



Posted by: Witchblade

Quote:
Originally Posted by Brutus_G View Post
DAM straight! Especially on squats and deads.
Word.



Posted by: katt

Interesting supersetting there Doms...

Yeah, the exchange rate for the dollar to Euro really sucks.. we wanted to go to Spain, but by the time we figured the exchange rate it was going to be way to expensive right now. I hope it evens out soon.



Posted by: Triple Threat

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Dreaming...

For the last few weeks, I've been having a lot of dreams about being in London.
Probably because you've been staring at Sam's avi.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
What does it mean by "calories are cut"?



I've never been.

I mean 3-6 range is a fantastic way to train, but only when the calories are high. Jodi said that when we cut calories to trim up, you don't lose much muscle size, but your strength takes a huge hit. I realized she was dead on accurate on my last cut. Cutting calories killed my strength in many lifts, some up to 20%.

So in short, when eating maintenance calories= range or lower, it might be better to lift 5-8 or 8-12 range. Even better I guess would be to variate periodization.

It seems doing 3-6 range every week was fantastic for strength as long as I was way over maintenance calories.



Posted by: Scarface30

very nice workouts DOMS...I wouldn't say the RI is that long, but coming from a masochist like yourself, I see why you would think so.



Posted by: goob

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Dreaming...

First off, I should point out that I've never been to London. Not once.

For the last few weeks, I've been having a lot of dreams about being in London. Which, in itself, is kind of weird. I don't usually have dreams. I usually, upwards of 95% of the time, have nightmares.

Now, before you say something like "Having nightmares that often is a sign of...", stop. I like my nightmares. I've liked them since I was young. So for over two decades, I've trained myself to have nightmares instead of dreams.

Anyway, I keep having dreams about being in London and now I feel driven to go. Which is pretty shitty considering the USD/EURO exchange rate. The dreams are pretty simple affairs. I'm near some old double-story cottage-type building and I'm trying to help someone do something. Most of the details are lost to me.

I don't usually put too much credit, or even interest, in dreams, but I've never felt driven by dreams before. So I've to plan a way to London.

I really hate dreams.
YouTube Video


Good work on that bench day. The supersets sound evil.



Posted by: the other half

how do you like the face down side raises? thats a pretty good weight for that exercise. did your shoulders feel it today?



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by katt View Post
Interesting supersetting there Doms...

Yeah, the exchange rate for the dollar to Euro really sucks.. we wanted to go to Spain, but by the time we figured the exchange rate it was going to be way to expensive right now. I hope it evens out soon.
It'll be years before it evens out.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post
Probably because you've been staring at Sam's avi.


And where the hell have you been?!



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
I mean 3-6 range is a fantastic way to train, but only when the calories are high. Jodi said that when we cut calories to trim up, you don't lose much muscle size, but your strength takes a huge hit. I realized she was dead on accurate on my last cut. Cutting calories killed my strength in many lifts, some up to 20%.

So in short, when eating maintenance calories= range or lower, it might be better to lift 5-8 or 8-12 range. Even better I guess would be to variate periodization.

It seems doing 3-6 range every week was fantastic for strength as long as I was way over maintenance calories.
Seeing as how I have little control over my diet, I don't think I need to worry about a caloric deficit.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Scarface30 View Post
very nice workouts DOMS...I wouldn't say the RI is that long, but coming from a masochist like yourself, I see why you would think so.
Thanks, Scarface!

I'm use to an RI of 60 seconds or less. Hell, during my HIT routine, I frequently went without a rest period.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by goob View Post
YouTube Video


Good work on that bench day. The supersets sound evil.
The perfect song!

The supersets are the bomb! I would just like to do them without RIs.

Thanks, goob!



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by the other half View Post
how do you like the face down side raises? thats a pretty good weight for that exercise. did your shoulders feel it today?
I've done them before, but they went by the name of Cheat Flys. The whole of this routine is beating the shit out of my shoulder girdle.



Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 13: Loafing Off

Today was suppose to be an active recovery day, but I wanted to give my left elbow a complete rest. It's almost free of pain. I'm hoping that by tomorrow, it'll be 100%.



Posted by: Gazhole

Good thinking. You seem to have a good momentum going, the last thing you want is an injury!

Are you icing it and stuff? Or isnt it as bad as all that right now?

I hate joint pain, you never know if its serious or not, lol.



Posted by: SamEaston

Quote:
Originally Posted by DOMS View Post
Thanks, Sam!

So, how do you like those 10x3s?
Owie

Actually im really loving them. I've never lifted something for just 2 reps so i imagine people looking over thinking WTF is she up to, but its really tough and by the 9th and 10th set im wiped out.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Triple Threat View Post
Probably because you've been staring at Sam's avi.
Oi

Are you really coming to London DOMS? I could help you learn the perfect insults to make people get out of your way on the street and on the tube

I don't live in a 2 storey building though, but i do need help to paint the living room



Posted by: b_reed23

he probably has something else in mind...unless your going to to insult him while he...oh never mind....




...good call on the day off



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gazhole View Post
Good thinking. You seem to have a good momentum going, the last thing you want is an injury!

Are you icing it and stuff? Or isnt it as bad as all that right now?

I hate joint pain, you never know if its serious or not, lol.
It isn't that bad. I still felt a little something there today, but only barely.

Both my left elbow and left shoulder. *sigh*



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
Owie

Actually im really loving them. I've never lifted something for just 2 reps so i imagine people looking over thinking WTF is she up to, but its really tough and by the 9th and 10th set im wiped out.
Considering some of the stuff that I do, I could only imagine some of the looks I would get if I worked out at a public gym.

Quote:
Originally Posted by SamEaston View Post
Are you really coming to London DOMS? I could help you learn the perfect insults to make people get out of your way on the street and on the tube

I don't live in a 2 storey building though, but i do need help to paint the living room
Yep, I'm coming to London. If I'm lucky, it'll be later on this summer.

I'd be more than happy to help.



Posted by: DOMS

Quote:
Originally Posted by b_reed23 View Post
he probably has something else in mind...unless your going to to insult him while he...oh never mind....




...good call on the day off





Posted by: DOMS

TSP - Bench - Day 14

Not much to say today. Just a good feeling workout.


BB Bench Supramax/BB Bench Partial/Chest-supported Row
225 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 170/3 @ 55
225 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 170/3 @ 55
225 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 170/3 @ 55
225 @ 8 seconds/3 @ 170/3 @ 55
225 @ 8 seco