Originally Posted by gopro

Latest report on Meltdown...

On 6/7 I have a guest posing appearance at a bodybuilding competition, and then will be competing on 6/28. I started my preparation 8 weeks out from the guest posing date. I decided to use Meltdown for the entire 8 weeks and see how it does for me in a true cutting phase. I should also mention I have been using VPX's soon to be released SYNTHESIZE as well as a post workout drink. My plan was to be in good condition for the guest appearance, but of course to peak for the comepetition.

Well, I am quickly approaching the hardest condition of my life (at age 39), while also holding the most lean bodyweight ever! But here is the kicker...I compared my notes from the last time I dieted down in 2006 and not only am I eating about 15% more calories at this point, but I am only averaging about 45 minutes of cardio a day, while in 2006 I was averaging 60 minutes of cardio per day. Thus, I am eating more, doing less cardio and yet I am losing bodyfat and holding muscle at a greater rate than 2 years ago (and we all know that your metabolism slows as you age)!!

It looks like I will be in contest READY condition for the guest posing and then who knows where I will be by competition day 3 weeks later.

Meltdown has not only provided me with fantastic fat loss, but also seems to help spare lean tissue, and all while eating more calories and doing less cardio (which is probably the related but indirect reason why I am carrying more muscle).

The SYNTHESIZE is defintely helping as well, as my recovery from training has been not short of excellent, and my strength is staying rather steady throughout my prep (which is not normal).

Meltdown and Synthesize is certainly a radically potent combination, especially when combined with proper diet and training. VPX is definitely pushing the physique transformation barriers.

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

You're preparing for a contest, just wondering what else are you using besides this supplement that may be contributing to your success?

Originally Posted by TexanTA1996

Gotcha, I was just wondering because usually competitors use anabolics as well-and it's almost impossible to attribute pre-contest success to a supplement when anabolics are in the equation...

Originally Posted by gopro

As Prince was so kind to point out, yes, I work with VPX and they do pay me.

Originally Posted by GOtriSports

This thread has been great help to me! Today I went out and got my first bottle of VPX Meltdown! I am so excited to see how it works for me. I just took 1 capsule because I want to see how I feel even though I already worked out this morning. In december 2007 I weighed 260 pounds and I worked out and totally changed my diet and today I am proud to say I weigh 183 pounds. But i have noticed I am beginning to plateau. So hopefully the Meltdown will help me get down to the 170 I want to see and look even more ripped!

I was wondering if I should be taking the regular 3 capsules per day on non-weight training days still. If I am only doing Cardio on a day should I still be taking the full dosage?

Originally Posted by Jman16

I just wanted to say, I just came off a month of this product and I am very pleased with the out come. I lost 15 pounds on it (with not alot of cardio). The best thing I liked about this product was it attacked my problem areas (Mid-Section) I love this product and will take again.

Originally Posted by TimmyG

Ecstasy for the mind and testosterone for the body...the perfect combination! Let me stop dreaming now. Gopro, since you are using the new formula, how are you limiting adrenal fatigue? The happy effects sound good, by the way.

Originally Posted by gopro

Meltdown does not seem to give me adrenal fatigue like the old ephedra-based formulas did. However, I DO notice a drop off in effect after 6 straight weeks of use. Thus, I limit my cycles to 6 weeks and take off 4 full weeks from stims in between. This seems to keep my system running very smoothly and efficiently.

Originally Posted by workingatit43

I can also attest to that I use to crash hard and long coming off ephedra and when I ran my meltdown log that was one of the biggest bright spots. I had no crash coming off it which was wonderful

Originally Posted by garyggiraffe

Hey gopro, the testimonials for this product are really amazing and I think I'm going to have to try it. But I have a few questions for you that I hope you can help me out with.

I'm 6'1'' and about 175 lbs, which is by no means overweight I know. But my body's fat is really concentrated on my abs, sides, and chest, while my face, legs and arms are really thin and defined. I was about 230 lbs just about a year and a half ago, but started running and hitting the gym and saw great results without taking any supplements whatsoever. But I'm really having serious trouble getting rid of the belly and chest fat, which makes my physique look terrible with my shirt off, even though I am relatively thin. I've been watching my diet alot and while I have only started closely tracking calories recently, I've been consuming only about 2400-2600 calories daily, which I think is quite a defecit for my height and weight. And I try really hard to take in a 2:2:1 ratio of calories from protein, carbs, and fat. But I'm not losing any of that fat.

I'd say I average 20-25 minutes of cardio daily and weight train about 1-1.5 hours 4 days a week. So my question is this. To get the results I want (definition in chest/abs) do I need to cut calories even more or should I be eating more to put on muscle? And will Meltdown really help to "target" my midsection like some people are saying it will?

I know this is a really loaded post, but your advice would be GREATLY appreciated.

Originally Posted by gopro

If I were you I would lower the carbs calories somewhat and replace them with equal amounts of protein calories. So, if you drop carbs by 50 grams per day, add in 50 grams of protein. This should help further fat loss.

As for Meltdown, it seems that it DOES burn bodyfat quite efficiently from "stubborn" areas. This differs from person to person, but it seems that the fat cells that are reluctant to give up fat are most greatly targeted by MD.

As to your other question, when I am on a cycle of MD, I use VPX NO Synthesize as my preworkout product, as it is exactly the same as NO SG, but without the stimulants. When off of MD, I return to SG preworkout.

Originally Posted by garyggiraffe

Thanks for the advice gopro. My only problem is that I find it really difficult (and expensive!!) to get the amount of calories from protein I'm consuming now. It seems that it would be cheapest to simply increase my protein supplement purchases, since per gram whey protein is much cheaper than per gram protein from egg whites, steak, chicken, etc. I normally use ON Gold Standard, but its expensive too. I recently saw 5 lb bags of EAS 100% Whey Protein at Sam's Club for only about $32, which is a steal. The ingredients aren't as good as ON's, but for the purpose of simply getting more daily protein, would taking this be sufficient? Or do you have another alternative that you prefer?

Originally Posted by garyggiraffe

Hey thanks alot man. You've been a huge help and I just bought a bottle of VPX Meltdown! I'll definitely post my results in this thread. Keep on being a baller gopro.

Originally Posted by GOtriSports

Hey gopro! I just finished my first complete bottle of VPX Meltdown and I REALLY lvoed the product. The whole time i was taking it appetite was down energy and mood seemed up everything I was looking for and I went from around 12.6% BF to 10%BF.

My problem now is that I know I have to take breaks from it so I am going to go ahead and go off for about 2 and half weeks since I was on t for around 5.

This is only the second day of being off of it and I a feeling really hungry. Is there another supplement I can take until I can get back on my meltdown? Any advice would be great!

Originally Posted by bruce78

I myself do not post often but always lurk. I first saw this thread 3 months ago and decided to try meltdown. The product I used before (Lipodrene) had ephedra and it made my muscles feel really flat. Meltdown, yams, and really lean meats have knocked 20lbs off weight so far after 2 cycles, and have gone up tremendously in strength. I am NOT paid by VPX and absolutely love this product. Good Bye ephedra for me.

Originally Posted by bruce78

I myself do not post often but always lurk. I first saw this thread 3 months ago and decided to try meltdown. The product I used before (Lipodrene) had ephedra and it made my muscles feel really flat. Meltdown, yams, and really lean meats have knocked 20lbs off weight so far after 2 cycles, and have gone up tremendously in strength. I am NOT paid by VPX and absolutely love this product. Good Bye ephedra for me.

Originally Posted by garyggiraffe

Hey guys, I've only been using Meltdown for 5 days, but I have to say so far I am extremely impressed. Obviously it's too soon to gauge fat loss, but as far as an appetite suppressant, this stuff is crazy. I haven't been a huge eater in the past (maintenance calories prob around 2600), but I've had to FORCE myself to eat while on this stuff b/c I want to eat so little.

Seriously, I am doing a PSMF for the first time, and the program I'm following calls for me to get about 250g of protein per day and about 1200 calories a day total. It has not been difficult at all to restrict myself to 1200. There have been 2 days so far where I've almost ended the day at 750 calories and was not hungry at all, but had to force myself to eat before bed to get to 1000. I really don't think it would be healthy at all, but on this stuff I think I could easily restrict myself to 500 calories a day. It's crazy.

As for energy, obviously when you're eating less than 20g of carbs and only about 1000 calories per day, you're going to get pretty tired. But Meltdown definitely gives me the energy to get through my workouts and make it through the day no problem. If I feel tired, I just pop a Meltdown and I'm good to go for 3-4 hours. I've been taking 2 every morning right when I get up and then sometimes I take another later in the day if I'm feeling extra tired. It works great.

I haven't even weighed in after 5 days, b/c I'd rather just wait the 2 weeks I'm going to be on the diet before checking my loss, so I can't report on weight/fat loss. But with how easy it is to restrict calories, I have no doubt I'll lose at least 5 lbs of fat in the 2 weeks. And it gives you great energy as well. So far, I'm definitely digging the Meltdown!

Originally Posted by Lillou

Did one cycle and the stuff was great body fat definitely down but weight went up. I stacked it with 6-OXO. Sorry for the complete lack of scientific back up but I dropped 2 pant sizes in a little over a month.

My question for Gopro is what is the difference if any between the Meltdown with blue strips (I had this one) on the label as opposed to the Meltdown with red striped label?

Originally Posted by musclemilk40

vpx, muscltech, eas yeah they are all a bit overhyped, but you have to realize that they do put a lot of money into r&d and if they come out with a new product....it's pretty much gonna have what its says it has on the label, some of these smaller outfits, well, you dont ever know. Meltdown is a solid product no doubt, is it as good as hyperdrive 3.0? I don't know, i only tried a sample pack, but im sure its legit.

Originally Posted by eVoluti0n

I do have a question for Gopro, that I'm hoping he or someone can help answer.

I've been redirected to try out Meltdown but I do have my doubts. You see, I've tried the liquid form of Redline and it has basically no effect on me. I'm guessing it's because my system was used to the high dose of caffeine from drinking coffee a lot, but I'm unsure of that.

I'm in serious need of a really good fat burner, I want some quick results (although I know nothing works over night) and it seems like Meltdown works wonders, but again, I have my doubts.

Secondly, if you were to compare Redline to Lean Xtreme, which would you suggest? I've been told both work well, but Lean Xtreme is good for targeting problem areas, such as stomach and love handles.

I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this. I appreciate your time and any info you can give me.

Originally Posted by gopro

You are certainly a RARE nonresponder to Redline. In fact, I do not even use Redline because it affects me TOO MUCH! It makes me feel ill!

However, Meltdown worked beautifully for me, and I always felt great on it. Also had no problems sleeping and great focus in the gym.

It has worked extremely well for the MAJORITY of users, but of course that is not a guarantee that it will work as well for you. All of us repsond somewhat differently to even the BEST formulas.

I would definitely give MD a try though because so far its track record is fantastic.

As for Lean Extreme, this is a solid product that works through a somewhat different mechanism than Meltdown. Certainly these two products can be cycled back and forth.

Originally Posted by eVoluti0n

I thank you for your input. I'll try anything once, so I'll definitely give this a go in a few weeks.

Originally Posted by ALBOB

I'm not going to go through 15 pages to check, but I'm pretty sure this is my first post in this thread. With that I'd like to send a HUGE thank-you to my friend Eric (gopro) for turning me on to this product. I screwed up by not taking a before picture or any formal measurements, but I can say for a fact this stuff is great. My workout routine hasn't changed a bit; brisk walks seven days a week and weights three times a week. The only diet change was to eat salad for lunch instead of a huge helping of left overs from the previous night's dinner.

I almost came unglued a month ago when I had to go out and buy jeans with a size 40 waist. I repeat, that was one month ago. This morning I comfortably got back into my size 36's. Not anywhere near where I should be, but a Hell of a lot better than where I was a month ago.

Thanks again Eric. You da' man.

Originally Posted by ALBOB

I almost came unglued a month ago when I had to go out and buy jeans with a size 40 waist. I repeat, that was one month ago. This morning I comfortably got back into my size 36's. Not anywhere near where I should be, but a Hell of a lot better than where I was a month ago.

Originally Posted by dsnorrod

I have been combing through this thread for a few days now debating on weather or not to try this product but this thread did it for me. I recently got off a PSMF and am cutting now with good results (down almost 20 lbs ) but feel the EC stack I'm taking now isn't doing what it's supposed to. I have to try this stuff. I'll let you know how it goes.

Originally Posted by eVoluti0n

I got Meltdown in the mail on Saturday and tried it on Sunday.

Let's just say my experience with Meltdown wasn't a good one.

Originally Posted by gopro

Please explain.

How many caps did you take?

What were the negative effects?

Details please.

Thanks!

Originally Posted by eVoluti0n

well, I first took them on Sunday without a problem. I took 1 cap in the morning with no food, then ate shortly after, maybe an hour or more. I did feel more alert and relaxed. I took another cap around 6 pm, then ate about 2 hours later. not a problem at all. my first experience was fine, it was only the second day I had a problem.

my second day I took 2 caps in the morning, since I was fine with 1 cap previously. (bottle states to take 1 or 2 to build tolerance) I took them around 930 am and 2 hours later I started to feel warm, which I felt was no big deal. Around 11:45 my heart rate was up quite a bit and it freaked me out. That lasted a good 2-3 min and stopped. I figured I'd be fine and thought nothing of it.

Around 12:15 it came back only it seemed to be worse. I was shaking a little bit, heart rate was up as well as my blood pressure. Keep in mind this happened at work, so I needed an ambulance because breathing was a little difficult. My symptoms lasted a good 4-5 hours, but my temperature was around 98.8 all day.

I couldn't sleep that night and was up for over 24 hours. I'm not sensitive to caffeine but this is the first time I've ever experienced this type of problem. I don't blame the pills but rather myself for what happened.

I know everything I felt are the same effects one experiences when using Redline, so I figured everything I experienced was normal. However, the rapid heart beat and high blood pressure was something I've never experienced so I didn't know what to think, except react on my instincts and call for help.

Since that day my heart has been a little achy but it seems to have calmed down. At least I know the product worked for what I went through lol. I did pee a lot constantly, it was as clear as water. I know if I were to keep taking the pills I could lose weight without a problem with the increase in body temperature, but after what I went through I'm kinda hesitant to take any pill now, because I feel I'll have a relapse and that scares me.

If I were to rate my overall experience, I'd give it a 7/10. The product works well, and the only reason I didn't score higher was due to the negative effects I felt. Had I not gone through what I did, I'd rate it a little higher.

Am I upset with what happened? Yes and no. I'm upset mainly because I was careless and should have built up some tolerance first prior to taking 2 pills. For the "no" response, again as I've stated before, I don't blame the product for what happened, only myself.

This is a solid product, but if you're not careful like myself, you could end up in the ER with a non-responding heart.

Originally Posted by workingatit43

Wow bro sorry to hear that. I started very slowly I think 1 cap for 3 or 4 day. How much water were you drinking while taking it? It is possible you had a bad reaction to it we all react differently to different compounds. I hope all works out well fro yoy bro.

Originally Posted by DaMayor

eVoluti0n, were you taking any other meds, OTC or otherwise, while trying meltdown? Have you ever had any problems with anxiety or panic attacks? What's your weight?

Seems to me your symptoms lasted far beyond the effectiveness of a single a.m. dose.

Originally Posted by eVoluti0n

well, I first took them on Sunday without a problem. I took 1 cap in the morning with no food, then ate shortly after, maybe an hour or more. I did feel more alert and relaxed. I took another cap around 6 pm, then ate about 2 hours later. not a problem at all. my first experience was fine, it was only the second day I had a problem.

my second day I took 2 caps in the morning, since I was fine with 1 cap previously. (bottle states to take 1 or 2 to build tolerance) I took them around 930 am and 2 hours later I started to feel warm, which I felt was no big deal. Around 11:45 my heart rate was up quite a bit and it freaked me out. That lasted a good 2-3 min and stopped. I figured I'd be fine and thought nothing of it.

Around 12:15 it came back only it seemed to be worse. I was shaking a little bit, heart rate was up as well as my blood pressure. Keep in mind this happened at work, so I needed an ambulance because breathing was a little difficult. My symptoms lasted a good 4-5 hours, but my temperature was around 98.8 all day.

I couldn't sleep that night and was up for over 24 hours. I'm not sensitive to caffeine but this is the first time I've ever experienced this type of problem. I don't blame the pills but rather myself for what happened.

I know everything I felt are the same effects one experiences when using Redline, so I figured everything I experienced was normal. However, the rapid heart beat and high blood pressure was something I've never experienced so I didn't know what to think, except react on my instincts and call for help.

Since that day my heart has been a little achy but it seems to have calmed down. At least I know the product worked for what I went through lol. I did pee a lot constantly, it was as clear as water. I know if I were to keep taking the pills I could lose weight without a problem with the increase in body temperature, but after what I went through I'm kinda hesitant to take any pill now, because I feel I'll have a relapse and that scares me.

If I were to rate my overall experience, I'd give it a 7/10. The product works well, and the only reason I didn't score higher was due to the negative effects I felt. Had I not gone through what I did, I'd rate it a little higher.

Am I upset with what happened? Yes and no. I'm upset mainly because I was careless and should have built up some tolerance first prior to taking 2 pills. For the "no" response, again as I've stated before, I don't blame the product for what happened, only myself.

This is a solid product, but if you're not careful like myself, you could end up in the ER with a non-responding heart.

Originally Posted by Bradicallyman

I used meltdown and had amazing results! I recommend it to anyone. My Fiancee is thinking about trying it and she was wondering if she would be able to have coffee in the mornings. She is a teacher and having her morning coffee is an absolute must according to her. Maybe coffee in the mornings and first dose of meltdown 3 hours later?

Second question. I took meltdown for 22 days. I wanted to order another bottle at the same time as her. How long should I wait between cycles?

Originally Posted by Bradicallyman

I used meltdown and had amazing results! I recommend it to anyone. My Fiancee is thinking about trying it and she was wondering if she would be able to have coffee in the mornings. She is a teacher and having her morning coffee is an absolute must according to her. Maybe coffee in the mornings and first dose of meltdown 3 hours later?

Second question. I took meltdown for 22 days. I wanted to order another bottle at the same time as her. How long should I wait between cycles?

Originally Posted by eVoluti0n

Call me crazy, but I think I'm going to start taking Meltdown again tomorrow lol. I've been having anxiety/panic attacks and I find it seems to start when I'm upset or irritated at work.

We'll see how things go this time.

Originally Posted by eVoluti0n

Call me crazy, but I think I'm going to start taking Meltdown again tomorrow lol. I've been having anxiety/panic attacks and I find it seems to start when I'm upset or irritated at work.

We'll see how things go this time.

Originally Posted by gopro

Anxiety/panic attacks are nothing to play around with my friend. They can truly make life a living hell if they get out of control. Perhaps you should look into dealing with this problem before it gets a real hold of you before worrying about using Meltdown.

Just some friendly advice.

Originally Posted by DaMayor

Since I am not a representative for VPX, I can say this.....

DUDE, ARE YOU NUCKING FUTS?
If you're having panic attacks, which I'm pretty sure you are, then you're running a surplus of epinephrine already.....maybe not a good idea to boost the stimulant level any further, don't ya think?

See a Doc, Bud.

Originally Posted by eVoluti0n

Does anyone know the amount of caffeine and the rest of the ingredients in one pill, just so I'm aware?

Originally Posted by DaMayor

You're kidding.

Well, one thing's for sure.....you ain't real bright.

Originally Posted by eVoluti0n

That's not what I meant. I know all the ingredients are listed on the bottle. I meant individually, since each ingredient has an asterisk (**).

Originally Posted by gopro

As for you, I feel you can use MD optimally for 4-6 weeks straight before taking a break of equal time.

Originally Posted by ALBOB

I'm going to bump gopro's recommendation here because I think it's important. One page ago I went on about how great Meltdown is and I still feel it's the best fat burner I've ever tried. But you know us lifters, if something works well as advertised, we'll try and use too much of it. I was taking 2 pills first thing in the morning and two at noon for seven weeks straight and started getting a terribly upset stomach and nausea. All symptoms went away about two days after quitting the Meltdown. I don't blame Meltdown at all for this, it was 100% self induced by my own stupidity. When a product says take a break, TAKE A BREAK. I'll be back on it next week. Gotta look good for the Mr. O Expo. (Of course, I always look good. )

Originally Posted by Bradicallyman

Gopro, can you recommend a non stim fat burner to take after my cycle is over? I plan on cutting for another month after I finish Meltdown which is why I am looking for a non stim

Originally Posted by gopro

Lean X-treme by Designer or Venom ST by ALRI.

Originally Posted by Bradicallyman

Thanks for the recommendation. I will defintely look into them