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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
SI.com - MLB - Jon Heyman: A-Rod to opt out of contract - Sunday October 28, 2007 10:41PM
Devastating to the Yankees. They could be a last place team next year. |
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
SI.com - MLB - Jon Heyman: A-Rod to opt out of contract - Sunday October 28, 2007 10:41PM
Devastating to the Yankees. They could be a last place team next year. |
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Originally Posted by bio-chem
they wont be a last place team, but this is certainly bad news
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
you're not worried, min0?
with Torre gone, you truly have to wonder what is going through the minds of posed, Rivera, and petite. a lot of holes to fill, is spending too much money on players just to "fill the void" the right thing to do? in my mind it isn't. |
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
a lot of holes to fill, is spending too much money on players just to "fill the void" the right thing to do? in my mind it isn't.
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| playRodrigez's demands: A greater billboard presence in New York than Jeter; a tent at the Mets' spring-training site that would sell Rodriguez merchandise (and Rodriguez merchandise only); a store inside Shea Stadium that would sell Rodriguez merchandise (and Rodriguez merchandise only); a marketing team supplied by the Mets to work for Rodriguez (and Rodriguez only); a luxury box at Shea Stadium and other places where the Mets play; charter jet service for Rodriguez's family and friends; an escape clause after three and seven years; and a guarantee he'll remain the highest-paid player in the game.... |
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Originally Posted by min0 lee
I am sick of his constant media whoring, if he wants to stay than great but if he wants to leave well then stop using the Yankees as a bargaining table. . |
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Originally Posted by bio-chem
if there is anything we should know about the Yankees is it's just business. the way they move players around. its not personal, its just business. so if a player turns the tables on the Yankees and uses them ans a bargaining chip, more power to 'em. we are not talking about loyalty here. it's just business. does anyone think that they would hold on to the beloved golden child Jeter if his stats fell? that they will let him finish out his career a Yankee when he gets older his stats fall, he losses some range and he is just a season or two from some record? Jeter will be shipped out just like everyone else.
hell if a classy organization like st Louis would push out the wizard of Ozzy, Jeter should already be looking over his shoulder |
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Hank Steinbrenner may be new to the baseball business, but the eldest son of George Steinbrenner knows one thing: If you don't want to be a Yankee, the Yankees don't want you. That was Steinbrenner's message to Alex Rodriguez last night after he learned that the third baseman had opted out of the final three years of his contract, electing to become a free agent before the Yankees even had a chance to offer him an extension. "It's clear he didn't want to be a Yankee," Hank Steinbrenner told the Daily News last night. "He doesn't understand the privilege of being a Yankee on a team where the owners are willing to pay $200 million to put a winning product on the field. "I don't want anybody on my team that doesn't want to be a Yankee." Rodriguez's decision means that the Texas Rangers will save almost $30 million that had been on its way to New York to help pay for the final three years of A-Rod's contract, which would have paid him $91 million over those three seasons. The Yankees were planning to offer A-Rod a contract extension of five years and about $135 million to $140 million, a deal that would have kept the two-time MVP in pinstripes through his 40th birthday. The Yankees had not yet made the offer, as they were trying to set up a face-to-face meeting with agent Scott Boras and A-Rod, a meeting that never happened. The Yankees have said time and time again that they will not pursue Rodriguez as a free agent because of the money they would now no longer receive from the Rangers. Last night, Steinbrenner made it clear that his team had no intention of changing its tune on that stance. "We're not going to back down," Steinbrenner said. "It's goodbye." According to Boras, Rodriguez wanted to know what direction the Yankees were moving in before he agreed to any contract extension, something that was unlikely to happen before Rodriguez's opt-out deadline of 10 days after the World Series. Boras cited the uncertainty over the status of pending free agents such as Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada and Andy Pettitte as A-Rod's biggest concern. As it turns out, all Rodriguez had to do was return a phone call if he wanted that information. Steinbrenner said last night that both he and his brother, Hal, personally placed phone calls to Rodriguez expressing their desire to keep him in pinstripes, but neither call was returned by the third baseman. "I'll tell you this: the commitment from my family is '78 through '96," Steinbrenner said of the team's direction. "We will never go 18 years without a championship again. That's our commitment." If the Yankees stand by their well-stated position not to bid on Rodriguez as a free agent, then one of the most controversial Yankee careers will end after four years of incredible ups and downs. In his first season as a Yank, A-Rod hit .286 with 36 homers and 106 RBI in 2004. He carried the Yankees through the division series against the Twins and crushed the ball in the first three games of the ALCS against the Red Sox, but he went cold in the four-game fold against Boston, taking a lot of heat for the worst collapse in postseason history. A-Rod rebounded with an MVP season in 2005, hitting .321 with 48 homers and 130 RBI, but his season ended with a disastrous 2-for-15, no-RBI performance in the five-game first-round loss to the Angels. His 2006 season (.290-35-121) was solid, but another October collapse, this time a 1-for-14 series in a four-game loss to the Tigers, left A-Rod with a label as playoff choke artist. This year, Rodriguez came to spring training with a new attitude, and it helped him post the finest overall season of his career. But after hitting .314 with 54 home runs and 156 RBI (and a likely third career MVP award), A-Rod managed just one solo homer and three meaningless singles in another first-round playoff exit, likely the lasting image of his time in pinstripes. |
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Originally Posted by min0 lee
Couldn't A-Rod at least tell his agent to wait till after the Sox win it to come out this?
No class at all. |
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Originally Posted by min0 lee
That could be one place he might go to, imagine all the homers he would get there.
The Angels would pay for him. |
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Originally Posted by bio-chem
sources say the angels dont want to pay that much for one member of their team
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Originally Posted by min0 lee
Ha! I hope he gets less than what the Yankees offered him.
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Originally Posted by bio-chem
he is a mercenary. he will go to the highest bidder and get his money. in one contract he played for 2 teams and still didnt finish the contract. only problem is what teams hat does he represent in the hall of fame? will that team even want him to?
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Originally Posted by Pylon
I have this dream that he will go back to the Mariners for league minimum, saying things like "I've got enough money" and "I haven't loved the game since I left." Suddenly, everyone loves him and we go crazy cheering him on to break Bonds' record.
He would go down as the greatest player ever on a lot of levels. And it will, of course, never happen. |
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Originally Posted by Triple Threat
If he winds up in the AL, maybe Chamberlain will bean him.
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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
The Yankees managed to do ok before A-Rod's arrival, and I think they'll manage to survive now that he's gone. I do think the Yanks will take a step back for a season or two (85-90 wins), but they'll be right back in the hunt before too long.
I don't want A-Rod on the Sox. They've won two World Series since they failed to land him. |
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Originally Posted by bio-chem
so does a-rod follow torre to the dodgers?
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
O's.
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
I could see Bonds becoming a Yankee this offseason. Again, that team is in shambles.
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Bonds is the last player the Yankees need right now.
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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
I think the Yankees should go after Barry Bonds. He and Giambi can set up "BALCO East."
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
I could see Bonds becoming a Yankee this offseason. Again, that team is in shambles.
You think Posada, Pettite and Rivera want to be managed by a former teammate of theirs. I don't. |
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
The Royals and Reds don't seek superstars?
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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
I don't know if Hank is very bright.
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
The Yankees could offer Rivera about $40 million for three years. With the money that had been expected to go to Alex Rodriguez now available, it's hard to imagine the Yankees being outbid for either Rivera or Jorge Posada.
*** That's smart. Offer both Posada and Rivera deals well into their 40's for $10+ million per year. Once again, shambles I say.. shambles. |
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"Out of my great respect for Mr. Torre, I have refrained from comment until he had a chance to address the public. "In my eyes, Joe Torre is more than a Hall of Fame manager. He is a friend for life, and the relationship we have shared has helped shape me in ways that transcend the game of baseball. His class, dignity, and the way he respected those around him - from ballplayers to batboys - are all qualities that are easy to admire, but difficult to duplicate. "I have known Mr. Torre for a good majority of my adult life, and there has been no bigger influence on my professional development. It was a privilege to play for him on the field, and an honor to learn from him off the field." |
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Originally Posted by min0 lee
I want more money.
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
Toronto Star - The Blue Jays moved quickly to take themselves off the short list of teams interested in free-agent third baseman Alex Rodriguez.
"No, not at all," Toronto GM J.P. Ricciardi replied yesterday when asked if the club had any interest in pursuing the major-bucks slugger. "I'm glad we're not involved. He's a great player, but we're not set up for that financially." Only a few teams in the majors can afford the likely 2007 AL MVP, who hit .314 with 54 home runs and 156 RBIs this season for the Yankees. *** No Jays... |
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Originally Posted by min0 lee
4 teams he's most likely to go.
Angels Giants Dodgers Orioles or stay with the Yankees. |
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Originally Posted by min0 lee
4 teams he's most likely to go.
Angels Giants Dodgers Orioles or stay with the Yankees. |
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Originally Posted by IainDaniel
No suprise there. They are pretty much capped out with salary right now.
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Originally Posted by Triple Threat
What would the Mets do with Wright? Trade him to the Yankees?
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
Vernon Wells or... Alex Rodriguez?
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Originally Posted by min0 lee
He did say he will move to another position to accommodate MeRod. |
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Originally Posted by Triple Threat
Wouldn't it be funny if no team offers the money he thinks he is worth?
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TOLEDO, Ohio (AP) -- Alex Rodriguez may have another option if he can't get enough money from the Dodgers, Angels, Cubs or Red Sox. The Triple-A Toledo Mud Hens have sent baseball's most coveted free agent a contract offer that includes incentives if he hits 75 home runs for them next season. The team conjured up the idea after Rodriguez opted out of his $252 million, 10-year contract with the Yankees. Hank Steinbrenner, a son of Yankees owner George Steinbrenner, told the New York Times, "Does he want to go into the Hall of Fame as a Yankee, or a Toledo Mud Hen?" The Mud Hens decided to find out, said Jason Griffin, a spokesman for the Detroit Tiger's top farm team. The club created a Hall of Fame plaque of Rodriguez wearing a Mud Hens hat. A letter sent on Thursday to Rodriguez's agent, Scott Boras, offered a deal with a bonus if A-Rod leads the team to 10 consecutive International League titles. But the offer stipulates that Rodriguez will have to compete for a spot with Toledo third basemen Mike Hessman, the league's most valuable player last season. "Would your client be willing to play a different position?" the letter asked |
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But the offer stipulates that Rodriguez will have to compete for a spot with Toledo third basemen Mike Hessman, the league's most valuable player last season. "Would your client be willing to play a different position?" the letter asked |
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Originally Posted by oaktownboy
How much money is enough? seriously...
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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
ESPN.com is reporting that A-Rod wanted $350 million from the Yankees.
ESPN - Sources: A-Rod was seeking $350M from Yankees - MLB Friggin rediculous. I mean, $325 million sounds reasonable, but now A-Rod is just getting greedy. |
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Originally Posted by min0 lee
Now you guys must see why I'm not sad to see him go.
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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
because you're a homophobe?
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1. Let's be honest, Alex. The world thinks you are only about the coin. And that's not true. You're about the bills. Sign with the Rays, and no one would ever suggest you came here for the money. There isn't any. 2. Just kidding. On behalf of the Rays, I am prepared to offer you a $300-million contract. Not only that, but you only have to play for 300,000 years to get it. 3. Free parking! 4. As it turns out, the Rays are about to change their uniforms. Have you ever imagined your face on the team cap? What's that? You have? Well, Alex, this is your chance to make it happen. And instead of a number, we can put a large dollar sign on the back of your jersey. 5. Think about it. The Tampa Bay Devil Rods. It just rolls off the tongue, doesn't it? 6. As far as all of those questions about your playoff performance. Not a problem, Alex. Not a problem. 7. Yes, you can play shortstop. The rest of the infield is willing to be called "the Rodettes." 8. Remember the scandal when your wife wore the T-shirt with the obscene message on it to a game? Around here, that wouldn't be a big deal. Everyone would just think she was from Orlando. 9. Where else could you have the satisfaction of knowing that you, personally, have increased attendance by 408 fans. Some games, that's almost double! 10. No state income tax! 11. Around here, we are naive. We think that a 54-home run, 156-RBI season is pretty good. 12. You are a short drive away from having lunch with George Steinbrenner. If you are lucky, perhaps he will pick up the check. 13. There is a tax around here called "Penny for Pinellas." I am certain that Scott Boras, your agent, could get it changed to "Penny for a Prima Donna." 14. If you want, you can rename the rings of the catwalk. You could call the big one "Alex." You could call the small one "Derek." Just for old time's sake. 15. You can have the only locker in Major League Baseball with a mirror on the ceiling. 16. In New York, you were compared to Ruth, Gehrig and DiMaggio. Here, you would be compared to Grieve, Clyburn and Castilla. It isn't exactly the same mountain range. 17. If you trust what you read, we can guarantee that you will not have a locker next to Curt Schilling. That ought to be worth millions. 18. If this works out, we will name schools after you. How about "Self-Absorbed Middle School." 19. This one is a little personal, Alex, but from reading the New York Post, it seems you like the hubba-hubba clubs. I have two words for you, Alex: Joe Redner. He's the Steinbrenner of strip clubs. 20. Free Storm tickets! |
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Originally Posted by min0 lee
...but Jeter is definitely straight.
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
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Whenever he opens his mouth, people cringe. While he has been a model of decorum (save his episode in Toronto) he is viewed as insincere if not outright deceptive:"I’ve always said to everybody that Seattle is my first choice."Rodriguez is viewed a phony who will say whatever it takes to maximize his income. The prevailing opinion is A-Rod will say what Boras tells him to say. He has more than his share of derisive nicknames. When Red Sox fans start chanting about not wanting A-Rod while celebrating a World Series championship, it's a good indicator of how a lot of fans feel at the moment. |
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Citing sources close to Alex Rodriguez, the Boston Globe reported Sunday that if Rodriguez could handpick the team he plays for, the Boston Red Sox might be No. 1 on his list. According to The Globe, the source said Rodriguez would love to play for the Sox because he thinks they can win multiple championships. Also, agent Scott Boras has been pleasantly surprised with the early interest in Rodriguez. "Several teams have expressed an interest and there have been a couple of surprise teams I never expected to hear from," he said. Boras would not reveal any names (one of the surprise teams is thought to be the Marlins). |
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There has been speculation that Rodriguez wants at least $30 million per season, and Boras told the Yankees that it would take a minimum offer of 10 years and $350 million just to talk to Rodriguez. While the Yankees apparently have softened their stance with Rodriguez, the Daily News reported they would only negotiate with the superstar third baseman if Boras was not involved. "We will not negotiate with Scott Boras," a Yankee source told the newspaper. "He cannot be in the room." After batting .314 with 54 home runs and 156 RBI, Rodriguez is certain to win a third MVP award and second with the Yankees. Rodriguez helped New York erase a eight-game deficit in the wild-card race to make the postseason for the 13th straight, but he struggled in the playoffs for the third straight year. The Yankees lost in four games in the divisional series to the Cleveland Indians, marking the third straight season they were ousted in the first round of the playoffs. New York entered the offseason with two other pressing concerns - re-signing veteran catcher Jorge Posada and closer Mariano Rivera. According to widely published reports, Posada has agreed to a four-year deal worth $52 million and Rivera is mulling a three-year offer worth $45 million. According to Wednesday's report in the Daily News, the Yankees are waiting for Rivera to sign before hammering out a new deal with Rodriguez. The report indicated that Rodriguez would accept a 10-year deal worth $275 million from the Yankees, which would be $75 million less than the amount Boras was demanding. |
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
A-Rod will be back with the Yankees, and there won't be as many changes as I once thought.
It also appears the Yankees are talking with Mike Lowell's reps about signing him to play first base. Overpaying for veteran players seems to be at the top of their agenda. |
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
It also appears the Yankees are talking with Mike Lowell's reps about signing him to play first base. Overpaying for veteran players seems to be at the top of their agenda.
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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
Lowell says he doesn't want to play 1B. He's a Gold Glove caliber third baseman. He doesn't [/i] need[/i] to move.
There is a report saying four teams (including NYY) have offered Lowell four year contracts at $14-15 million per. |
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Originally Posted by soxmuscle
min0,
the almighty dollar is the only reason why Lowell won't be a Red Sox next season. you can't fault him though, the Yankees are offering him 4 years and $60 million, while the Red Sox are offering him 3 years and $36 million. in other words, the Red Sox are smart and the Yankees are not. |
| A Boston television station and the Boston Globe are reporting that four teams, the Atlanta Braves, Anaheim Angels, St. Louis Cardinals, and New York Yankees, have each offered Boston Red Sox free agent third baseman Mike Lowell a four-year contract worth between $55 million and $60 million, exceeding the Sox' three-year proposal |
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Originally Posted by Triple Threat
$60 million so Lowell can play 1st base for NY for the next 4 years? Please, please no.
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Originally Posted by min0 lee
That's what I said, besides....they had plans for Damon at first already.
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Originally Posted by Triple Threat
Won't first base be getting a little bit crowded? Unless there's been a trade I don't know about, they've got Phillips, Duncan, and Giambi who can play first. And what about Mientkiewicz? Is he still on the team?
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| THE LOW(ELL) DOWN: The Yankees are not engaged in talks to bring Mike Lowell to New York to play first base, according to sources. There have been several recent reports that the Yanks, who had contacted Lowell about third base when they believed they had a vacancy there, were pursuing Lowell with the caveat that he move across the diamond. One Boston TV station reported the Yankees had made a four-year offer worth $50 million-$55 million to the 33-year-old. That report, according to a source, was "pure fantasy." The Yankees already have Andy Phillips, Shelley Duncan and Jason Giambi to use at first base and, according to a source, don't want to make a major investment in another player at first, especially if that player would have to switch positions to play there. |
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