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Posted by: Back2gym

Has anyone used 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol

if soo,,, is it good or garbage? Its in a supplement called P-Max

thanks,
B

Posted by: workingatit43

It is Phera Plex what are your stats?

Posted by: Back2gym

6'1 240lbs 25yrs old

probably around 20%bf
worked out most my adult life, but took a couple years off serious training.

Is this stuff any good?

B

Posted by: Back2gym

well if it is phera plex,,, i did a search and it people seemed to get more side effects than gains,,,, so I guess its not good...

thanks,
B

Posted by: workingatit43

There can be alot of sides with any steriod and that is what it is. Phera Plex can be very harsh

Posted by: Back2gym

Quote:

Originally Posted by workingatit43

There can be alot of sides with any steriod and that is what it is. Phera Plex can be very harsh

Yup I know.. But was considering Phera Plex cause still on the net for sale(well im sure others are still for sale on the net,,,,just cant find them)..

B

Posted by: workingatit43

Well here is a whole bunch of them all types of clones

Mass Cycle

Posted by: Pirate!

Phera Plex is not the best choice of steroid/prohormone for you. Something drier like Havoc/Epistane or a H-Drol. You don't want the blood pressure issues that might come from phera plex at your body fat level.

Posted by: soxmuscle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate!

Phera Plex is not the best choice of steroid/prohormone for you. Something drier like Havoc/Epistane or a H-Drol. You don't want the blood pressure issues that might come from phera plex at your body fat level.

Where, what and how did you study? Your intelligence on this kind of stuff impresses me.

Posted by: Pirate!

By know means am I an expert on gear use, but I have a strong background in integrative physiology, biochemistry, orangic chem and so on from my work at The University of Texas College of Natural Sciences.

Posted by: zombul

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pirate!

Agreed you'll add water wait you probably don't want at 20% body fat.I have cut on ProMagnon if you are looking for a PH to cut on that you can still buy.

Posted by: Back2gym

Quote:

Originally Posted by zombul

Agreed you'll add water wait you probably don't want at 20% body fat.I have cut on ProMagnon if you are looking for a PH to cut on that you can still buy.

I will look into that
B

Posted by: joey0480

yeah I haven't been on here long but I have a decent science background...won't get into my job.

you definitely want to be cautious of your BP. What is it currently? Are you on any meds? Trust me, I am at 18% BF right now...I have to lean out. H-drol for me. And i am on meds for BP. That is why I am going with a low side effect PH just to be safe and taking all supplement and PCT precautions.

Posted by: Back2gym

Not Sure on that but I will get it checked......HDROL Is good for cutting? I may want to try that first.

B

Posted by: Pirate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back2gym

HDROL Is good for cutting?
B

If your diet is right, yes. It's pretty low key, but it helps with appetite and muscle retention while dieting for sure.

Posted by: mcguin

is milk thistle needed while taking h-drol? Also what is a good PCT to take with H-drol? I hear about people stacking other types of supplements while on prohormones? Is this necessary? What are the benefits versus not taking anything other than in this case the H-drol? thanks

Posted by: workingatit43

Quote:

Originally Posted by mcguin

is milk thistle needed while taking h-drol? Also what is a good PCT to take with H-drol? I hear about people stacking other types of supplements while on prohormones? Is this necessary? What are the benefits versus not taking anything other than in this case the H-drol? thanks

Milk Thistle should be used with any methylated compound period. PCT some peolpe say you can get away with something that has Trans-Resveratrol 50% i am going to use this in my Haldrol cycle in about a month but i also have a bottle of Nolva on hand just in case

Posted by: bbattag

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back2gym

Not Sure on that but I will get it checked......HDROL Is good for cutting? I may want to try that first.

B

Yes, I agree. H-drol is prob the best bet. Gains without the water retention. As long as you take something for your liver (Liv 52, Milk thistle, etc), you should be fine.

Posted by: eight732

Quote:

Originally Posted by workingatit43

It is Phera Plex what are your stats?

I just purchased this product call Alpha Drol...
It includes 19 Norandrosta 4,9 diene 3,17 dione
17a methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol

My stats are 6' 170 lbs with 8.5% BF
Can anyone tell me what this stuff means in lamens terms... I am new to training
Thanks

Posted by: Pirate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by eight732

Can anyone tell me what this stuff means in lamens terms... I am new to training
Thanks

Basically, you just bought a steroid that has negative sife effects. It will only harm you. These supplements are best used by men with years of lifting experience who have researched how to properly use them. I recommend getting a refund.

Posted by: ZECH

There have been many cases of havoc/epi and Hdrol causing cases of HBP. Myself included. Just because it is not as harsh as Pplex, it can still case this.

Posted by: kicka19

make sure you are cutting, bulking at 20%bf is foolish.

Posted by: Prince

Quote:

Originally Posted by eight732

I just purchased this product call Alpha Drol...
It includes 19 Norandrosta 4,9 diene 3,17 dione
17a methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol

My stats are 6' 170 lbs with 8.5% BF
Can anyone tell me what this stuff means in lamens terms... I am new to training
Thanks

and this is why pro-hormones got banned.

Posted by: ZECH

Yep, you got that right.

Posted by: kicka19

how the hell does this post have 7,000 views? wtf

Posted by: Prince

Quote:

Originally Posted by kicka19

how the hell does this post have 7,000 views? wtf

because if you do a Google search for 17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol this thread is #1

17a-Methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol - Google Search

Posted by: eight732

well im on my 4th day using alpha drol and already seeing minor changes... Im also eating 6oz chicken and 4oz of rice 5x / day along with 3 protein shakes with my creatine 3x / day. Is this product an anabolic steroid?

Posted by: Pirate!

Quote:

Originally Posted by eight732

Is this product an anabolic steroid?

Yes. Did you read my post above? Just because something is over-the-counter, doesn't mean it's safe to use. They keep taking these types of products off the market because of people who use them ignorantly.

Posted by: quark

Quote:

Originally Posted by eight732

I just purchased this product call Alpha Drol...
It includes 19 Norandrosta 4,9 diene 3,17 dione
17a methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol

My stats are 6' 170 lbs with 8.5% BF
Can anyone tell me what this stuff means in lamens terms... I am new to training
Thanks

Unless he's had a serious illness recently he's a classic ecto who is sick of being a bean pole. The fact that he's on here asking for help is a good sign. I think sometimes we start the bashing a little too soon. I can't think of any PH or similar product (I could be wrong obviously) that tells you that you need a pct or liver support or anthing other than [paraphrase] 'take these and get all those muscles and gain all that weight you've always wanted' on the bottle. The industry has to be held at least somewhat accountable for that. The consumer has to be responsible for knowing what they're putting into their bodies by doing some research before they start taking something. Sometimes it just seems like some of these products are too easy to get.
OK, I see that from the post dates he started taking the stuff the same day he bought it and continued despite Pirate's advise. Never fucking mind.

Posted by: BiggT

ya its phera plex/ mass xtreme.

the stuff is legit as fvck. ive ran it 3 times or so and each time my strength went through the roof and i gained at least 20lbs (running it for 2-3 months).

i always stacked it with something like a tren PH or stanzobol PH.

17a-methyl-etioallocholan-2-ene-17b-ol is the best PH ive ever used, and ive used like halo and shit like that.

im actually gonna run it again for my next cycle in a few more months.

gluck

p.s. in case you cant tell, its a bulking agent*

Posted by: Getswole

Hey fellas I'm new to this site...I'm currently on a 6 week cycle of mass hardcor followed by a 4 week cycle of tren extreme...I have worked out about 3 months and went from 175 to 195 and my bench went from 215 to 315...The shit works...I have one week left on my mass hardcor. So when i take the tren will i gain even more weight? I admit to being a noob about this and was wondering from you experts what kind of pct to take...when to start taking..etc. The guys from max muscle gave me some info but just looking for a second opinion from guys who have done it...thanks fellas.

Posted by: Silver_Back

Bulking at 20% BF is not good?

i'm at least 20%BF and its fine with me..

I'm running Mdrol at the moment. A little dryer, but i'm eating like a BIG!

Posted by: MtR

Patiently awaiting Patrick Bateman's response lol.....

Posted by: SunAndSteel

Quote:

Originally Posted by Back2gym

6'1 240lbs 25yrs old

probably around 20%bf
worked out most my adult life, but took a couple years off serious training.

Is this stuff any good?

B

It's good, but you're gonna have to lean out a little first.

Posted by: Mags

Quote:

Originally Posted by dg806

There have been many cases of havoc/epi and Hdrol causing cases of HBP. Myself included. Just because it is not as harsh as Pplex, it can still case this.

I concur. Granted, I ran high doses of H-drol for about 8 weeks (stacked with Primordial's 1-T for the first four) , but they still trashed my lipids and liver values, and increased my blood pressure. All is back to normal now, but be wary when on cycle.

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