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Super Bowl XLII

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Posted by: Doublebase

Phoenix, Arizona. February 3, 2008.

Posted by: min0 lee

I am rooting for the Giants of course, but they are against a great team with both a Great quarterback and a great coach.
It would really be great though if the Giants can beat the Great Patriots team.
So we should expect a great game only if the Giants play great, if they don't well it's going to be another laugher.

Expect Belichick to pull out a great game plan from great defensive mind to fool the not-yet so great Eli.

I hope it's going to be a real, great, great show.

Posted by: min0 lee

Ummm, why is Elvis on the Patriots hat?

Posted by: Doublebase

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Ummm, why is Elvis on the Patriots hat?

Cause he's the King. Duh.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

Cause he's the King. Duh.

Silly me.

Posted by: Jodi

I'm going to be there one way or another. I already have tailgating plans at the stadium but I'm trying my hardest right now to get tickets! Once in a lifetime opportunity for me to see the Pat's in the Superbowl and with a perfect record

Posted by: dg806

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Originally Posted by Jodi

I'm going to be there one way or another. I already have tailgating plans at the stadium but I'm trying my hardest right now to get tickets! Once in a lifetime opportunity for me to see the Pat's in the Superbowl and with a perfect record

That will be cool!

Posted by: david

for once two teams that have many fans on both sides (transients and snowboards) those two teams meet in AZ and not Miami!

Jodi's lucky!!!

Posted by: IainDaniel

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Originally Posted by Jodi

Good luck could you fly me out there to tag along

Posted by: largepkg

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Good luck could you fly me out there to tag along

I don't think they'll let you back into this country after what you did last week!

Posted by: Doublebase

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Originally Posted by Jodi

Lucky you. A native New Englander that just happens to live in Arizona at the time of the Super Bowl where New England has a perfect record. I hope they lose.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

Lucky you. A native New Englander that just happens to live in Arizona at the time of the Super Bowl where New England has a perfect record. I hope they lose.

Posted by: IRM

I think the real loser, come Super Bowl Sunday, will be my liver.

Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

Lucky you. A native New Englander that just happens to live in Arizona at the time of the Super Bowl where New England has a perfect record. I hope they lose.

Posted by: freakinhuge

I think the pats will win this in a blow out. Super Bowls usually get away from one team and I think the Giants will let this slip away. And I can see this game getting away from them very fast.

Posted by: Doublebase

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Originally Posted by freakinhuge

I think the pats will win this in a blow out. Super Bowls usually get away from one team and I think the Giants will let this slip away. And I can see this game getting away from them very fast.

No.

Posted by: fUnc17

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

Lucky you. A native New Englander that just happens to live in Arizona at the time of the Super Bowl where New England has a perfect record. I hope they lose.

Posted by: oaktownboy

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Originally Posted by freakinhuge

I think the pats will win this in a blow out. Super Bowls usually get away from one team and I think the Giants will let this slip away. And I can see this game getting away from them very fast.

for the sake of not being bored out of my mind, I hope not

Posted by: largepkg

Let's take a logical approach to this.

1. Giants have covered the spread their last 5 games
2. Patriots have not covered the spread their last 5 games
3. Patriots last 3 superbowls were all 3 point wins
4. The only head to head match up was a 3 point win by the Patriots

Anyone seeing a trend here?

Take the 12 points and even though it's a fast track 53.5 is too much, take under.

Posted by: largepkg

Also, only one of the last six superbowls was won by more than 12 points!

Posted by: ReproMan

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Originally Posted by largepkg

Take the 12 points and even though it's a fast track 53.5 is too much, take under.

I agree.

Posted by: I Are Baboon

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Originally Posted by Jodi

I will be very, very disappointed if you don't consume alcohol.

I'll be on a Lake Tahoe ski vacation during the Super Bowl, but I do plan on watching the game in its entirety.

Posted by: Doublebase

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Originally Posted by I Are Baboon

I will be very, very disappointed if you don't consume alcohol.

I'll be on a Lake Tahoe ski vacation during the Super Bowl, but I do plan on watching the game in its entirety.

Where do you get the time and money in this awful economy to go skiing you lucky SOB!

Posted by: min0 lee

White collar criminal.

Posted by: soxmuscle

Lets do this.

Posted by: min0 lee

Go Giants!

Posted by: min0 lee

Damn, Brady has the look of an assassin.....while Manning has the look of a little boy.

Posted by: IainDaniel

You missed brady give manning the brush off earlier during the warmups.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

You missed brady give manning the brush off earlier during the warmups.

That was not cool.

Posted by: min0 lee

Jordan Sparks sang it beautifully.

Posted by: min0 lee

Giants look good so far. The running game is good, Eli so far is doing good.

Posted by: min0 lee

Nice, Manning was blizted but still converted a first down.

Posted by: soxmuscle

Manning looks good. Brady hasn't seen the field.

under?

Posted by: soxmuscle

Pepsi Max commercial the best thus far

Posted by: min0 lee

I wonder if Brady also has a bloody sock?

Posted by: soxmuscle

bloody shoulder, maybe..

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

Pepsi Max commercial the best thus far

Under armour.

Posted by: min0 lee

The talking stain, the yelling squirrel and the Fed Ex pigeons.

Posted by: min0 lee

The Pats are the Pats.

The Giants need to play their hearts out.

Posted by: min0 lee

Manning throws a 38 yard prayer and Toomer catches it. Nice...

Posted by: Gazhole

Go Patriots!

Posted by: min0 lee

In...ter.....cep...tion...

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by Gazhole

Go Patriots!

Stick to rugby!

Posted by: min0 lee

That Ironman commercial was bad ass!

Posted by: min0 lee

Giants are falling apart.

Posted by: soxmuscle

Not necessarily falling apart, but the offense had some trouble there.

Posted by: soxmuscle

Giants D showing signs of life..

Posted by: min0 lee

2 sacks in a row!
Pretty impressed. I'm really shocked to be honest.
Osi is pretty good.

Posted by: min0 lee

Can anyone stop Welcher?

Posted by: min0 lee

This game has been a good one.
Three good quarters.

Posted by: Prince

could it be any more boring?

Posted by: min0 lee

Good defensive game played by both teams.

Not to many teams can rattle Brady, this is the closest I've seen any team do it in a while.

Posted by: min0 lee

Eli has just earned my respect.

Posted by: IainDaniel

Yeah he has played well.

But he is still a homo.

Posted by: min0 lee

35 seconds left.....this game is freaking good.

No blowout, thank god!

A real cliff hanger.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Yeah he has played well.

But he is still a homo.

Posted by: min0 lee

Brady goes down!

Go defense!

Posted by: min0 lee

10 Seconds.....

Posted by: min0 lee

The Dolphines better buy the Giants dinner if they win.

Posted by: IainDaniel

game set match

Posted by: min0 lee

Yes!

I Don't believe it.

Posted by: IainDaniel

Sorry but Belichek has no class if he went up the tunnel with out shaking hands.

That is bush if he did that.

Posted by: min0 lee

Great game.

They beat a Dynasty.

Posted by: IainDaniel

It was an awesome game.

Giants played well, Eli stepped it up.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Sorry but Belichek has no class if he went up the tunnel with out shaking hands.

That is bush if he did that.

He did cross the field to shake hands

Posted by: min0 lee

This game was no give away, I'm sure Mara is smiling somewhere.

Posted by: IainDaniel

yeah when he thought the game was over.... but it wasn't

Posted by: Rubes

wooooooooooooooo GO GIANTS

Posted by: soxmuscle

I think he thought the game was over, but I'd like to see what he has to say in his press conferences.

Posted by: AKIRA

I like to see a hero fall, so I am really getting a kick out of this shit.

Posted by: Pepper

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Sorry but Belichek has no class if he went up the tunnel with out shaking hands.

That is bush if he did that.

I saw him shake hands, he just was not interested in the last play. I don't blame him for that, if the losing team doesn't want the last play, they should just wave it off.

I am 90% sure he blew off the officials on his way to mid-field for the handshake.

Posted by: min0 lee

David beat Goliath.

The Giant fans are suprised for sure.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

yeah when he thought the game was over.... but it wasn't

I did too, it all looked to familiar.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by AKIRA

I like to see a hero fall, so I am really getting a kick out of this shit.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

I think he thought the game was over, but I'd like to see what he has to say in his press conferences.

He won't mention it, he'll avoid it.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by Pepper

That's what I also saw.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by freakinhuge

I think the pats will win this in a blow out. Super Bowls usually get away from one team and I think the Giants will let this slip away. And I can see this game getting away from them very fast.

This must have been one freakinhuge disappointment.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by largepkg

Let's take a logical approach to this.

1. Giants have covered the spread their last 5 games
2. Patriots have not covered the spread their last 5 games
3. Patriots last 3 superbowls were all 3 point wins
4. The only head to head match up was a 3 point win by the Patriots

Anyone seeing a trend here?

Take the 12 points and even though it's a fast track 53.5 is too much, take under.

I do now.

Posted by: min0 lee

Belechick is on now...

Posted by: bio-chem

tom brady is mortal, the patriots can stop the greatest team ever talk. its a good day

Posted by: IainDaniel

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Belechick is on now...

What did he say? I am watching the steroid thing on National Geographic

Posted by: oaktownboy

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Sorry but Belichek has no class if he went up the tunnel with out shaking hands.

That is bush if he did that.

yup..seeing him walk into the tunnel before the game was over just reaffirmed the notion the dude has no class...THANK GOODNESS THE PATS LOST! You could notice the crowd wasn't cheering when the Pats scored. I wonder why?

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

tom brady is mortal, the patriots can stop the greatest team ever talk. its a good day

Top five perhaps?

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

What did he say? I am watching the steroid thing on National Geographic

He really said nothing, all he said was how disappointed he was losing this game.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by oaktownboy

He did shake his hand, the Fox network showed it live.

Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Top five perhaps?

greatest team ever? hell no. you cant win the superbowl you dont get consideration. giants beat them are they a top 5 best team ever? nope. vikings previously had the most points ever by a team in the regular season they dont get any consideration as best team ever. try again next year guys

Posted by: bio-chem

i hate belichek as much as anyone, but he did shake hands and then left. lets leave it at that. i hope the media doesnt make that a story. its a non-issue

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

The Patriots won 4 superbowls in less than 10 years, I would say they are in the top 5.

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

we will. with the same team as this year plus the #7 overall pick in the draft.

Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

The Patriots won 4 superbowls in less than 10 years, I would say they are in the top 5.

not to be nitpicky here, but they just lost. they won 3 super bowls in 4 years. thing is they changed. each year they changed. NFL means Not For Long. and thats just how it is. what have you done recently? the answer is they lost. this team of this year is not one of the greatest individual teams ever.

Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

we will. with the same team as this year plus the #7 overall pick in the draft.

so will the other 31 teams in the league. remember how badly the giants did last year? now they are superbowl champs. sorry to say but the #7 pick is not going to put them "over the hump"

Posted by: min0 lee

I have always said the Steelers of the 70's were the best ever.

Posted by: min0 lee

Best play in the game - Eli shedding 2 tacklers, scrambling, and Tyree catching the ball over his head with Harrison all over him

Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

I have always said the Steelers of the 70's were the best ever.

i never saw them play

Posted by: Prince

the entire game (except for the last 10 minutes) were so boring I took a nap, I woke up to watch the half-time show and thanks to Tom Petty (is he around 80 now?) I went right back to sleep.

LAME!!!

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

so will the other 31 teams in the league. remember how badly the giants did last year? now they are superbowl champs. sorry to say but the #7 pick is not going to put them "over the hump"

I don't know what you're talking about.

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by Prince

the entire game (except for the last 10 minutes) were so boring I took a nap, I woke up to watch the half-time show and thanks to Tom Petty (is he around 80 now?) I went right back to sleep.

LAME!!!

Petty was good, but he looks soo old.

Posted by: bio-chem

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

I don't know what you're talking about.

so logic is too difficult for you then? i guess an intelligent conversation is totally out of the question. plain and simple. the pats lost and next year doesnt look any better

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

i never saw them play

Awesome team of allstars who playeed as a team.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by Prince

the entire game (except for the last 10 minutes) were so boring I took a nap, I woke up to watch the half-time show and thanks to Tom Petty (is he around 80 now?) I went right back to sleep.

LAME!!!

Some are calling it one of the better ones.

I guess they went with Petty to play it safe, no nipple or a guitar penis this year....

Posted by: min0 lee

Poll Results

Thank you for voting.
Is the Giants 17-14 victory over the previously perfect Patriots in Super Bowl XLII the greatest upset in NFL history?

Yes81%

No19%

Posted by: min0 lee

Did Moss play?

What a jerk. He was outplayed....but nooo..it was the coaches fault.

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Most of the New England players were gracious, congratulating the Giants, but Moss (five catches for 62 yards) hinted that Belichick & Co. were outcoached.
"The Giants just had a better game plan," said Moss, adding, "I think their intensity from the beginning snap to the end of the game, was really higher than ours. We just couldn't meet that intensity."

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Best play in the game - Eli shedding 2 tacklers, scrambling, and Tyree catching the ball over his head with Harrison all over him

tyree.mpg

Eli slipped away from 2 guys one who had his shirt and then he had a body charging at him.
How did Tyree not lose that ball? Nice catch!

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Sorry but Belichek has no class if he went up the tunnel with out shaking hands.

That is bush if he did that.

belichick.mpg

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

The Dolphines better buy the Giants dinner if they win.

RBK - Perfectville

Posted by: P-funk

That was amazing. The best super bowl i have ever watched.

i loved how belichek left the field when there was still one more play to run. he is such a fucking classless piece of shit. take your loss like a man.

Posted by: min0 lee

You dislike him from when he was with Cleveland right?

Posted by: Pepper

I don't like him either but this is a non-issue.

He didn't want to run that meaningless play. If the losing coach consents, the officials ought to just start the clock and be done with it.

He just lost the SB, he lost his perfect season..and they are trying to tell him they have to line up for one kneel-down play?

Posted by: IainDaniel

I enjoyed the game.... and thought it was a very good one.

Posted by: Doublebase

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Originally Posted by P-funk

That was amazing. The best super bowl i have ever watched.

i loved how belichek left the field when there was still one more play to run. he is such a fucking classless piece of shit. take your loss like a man.

I agree. I don't know what Prince is complaining about. Finally I feel fulfilled after watching a Super Bowl. It lived up to every bit of its hype.

Posted by: dg806

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Originally Posted by Pepper

I don't like him either but this is a non-issue.

He didn't want to run that meaningless play. If the losing coach consents, the officials ought to just start the clock and be done with it.

He just lost the SB, he lost his perfect season..and they are trying to tell him they have to line up for one kneel-down play?

You can't. By NFL rules the play has to be run to be official. I think he should not have walked off the field. I think that showed non respect.

Posted by: Dale Mabry

The Pats were outplayed heavily. I also agree that it was a boring Super Bowl. Tom Petty was awesome, though. If you are a Giants fan or a Pats hater, I can see where it would have been enjoyable. I think the Belichick thing is a non-issue, it does seem really mundane to run the last play, and I thought his hug/handshake with Coughlin was respectful.

As a Pats fan, I have a feeling there is a lot more to Spygate than was let on, and it is unfortunate if that's the case because then I will be a Non-Pats fan, at least until Belichick is gone. You just have to believe that if they were being falsely accused they would have come out and beat the shit out of the Giants. The O-line, Brady, and the defense sucked big time. In fact, Welker was the only one who had a good game for them. Hobbs' interception was great, but certainly did not make up for the last touchdown or other tosses to Burress that he got burned on.

Oh, and I am beginning to think NYG fans are up there with Eagles fans with regard to sportsmanship and class, I got a text from someone that read, "You don't know who I am, but f u the Pats lost. Hahaha Biiiotch!" Who goes out of their way to insult someone they don't even know who wasn't even playing in the game? I think it's this fat chick I work with who became a Giants fan this season.

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by bio-chem

so logic is too difficult for you then? i guess an intelligent conversation is totally out of the question. plain and simple. the pats lost and next year doesnt look any better

100% false.

This Patriots team isn't built like the Yankees in 2001 were. The Patriots will need to make a few replacements, but should still be the favorite to win Super Bowl 43.

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Did Moss play?

What a jerk. He was outplayed....but nooo..it was the coaches fault.

Really, he's a jerk for saying that?

McDaniels called the worst game he's ever called in his life. Here's a guy thats in contention for head coaching jobs left and right and now won't be able to get one this year because of how he called yesterdays game.

I agree with Randy Moss.

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by P-funk

If it was any other coach, this wouldn't even be a thought.

Posted by: IainDaniel

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

If it was any other coach, this wouldn't even be a thought.

Don't agree. I don't have anything against Belichek, and couldn't give a crap about spygate.

I just don't like bush league class.

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by Pepper

It's an absolute fucking joke.

I've seen countless times where the officials agreed that a play didn't have to be run and the final second run off the clock. That's what happened, the clock went to zero, the players and coaches were walking off the field and then realizing the headlines that could come about this morning, realized "wait a minute, this would be great for the NFL network if we made Belichick look even worse."

Nonissue.

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

Don't agree. I don't have anything against Belichek, and couldn't give a crap about spygate.

I just don't like bush league class.

He should know better than to do anything risky at this point, but he certainly wasn't the only one who thought it was over, considering Coughlin went out to the center of the field to shake hands with him amongs hundreds and hundreds of other spectators, media personel, etc.

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by Doublebase

I agree. I don't know what Prince is complaining about. Finally I feel fulfilled after watching a Super Bowl. It lived up to every bit of its hype.

Up until 5 minutes left in the fourth quarter, it was a shit game.

Both teams couldn't do dick with the ball, both teams never clicked until their final possessions.

I've seen far better Super Bowls in my day.

Posted by: IainDaniel

You don't think that has anything to do with an impressive Giant D-line?

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

You don't think that has anything to do with an impressive Giant D-line?

Put it this way..

I wasn't confident enough to bet on the Patriots yesterday and I had won on the moneyline with the Giants three times already in the playoffs. Odds are if the bias didn't get the best of me, I would have taken the Giants straight up again.

With that said, the Patriots were the more talented team and I think 8 or 9 times out of 10 they win that game. The offense didn't move the football, the defense had countless chances to end the game and failed... the list goes on and on.

I mean, I'll give credit where it's due, the Giants were a heck of a football team down the stretch this season. I don't dislike anybody on that team (I've even warmed up to Eli Manning) and they beat my Patriots on the grandest of stages.

Congratulations.

Posted by: IainDaniel

I don't know if I would go with 8 or 9 out of 10 games. The Giants matched up very well. And proved that the last game of the regular season.

The Pats running game is dependant on the pass, so put pressure on Brady, and the offense is in Trouble. ie 5 sacks and 15 knockdowns.

With that said Eli is still a fag.

Posted by: Dale Mabry

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

You don't think that has anything to do with an impressive Giant D-line?

That certainly had something to do with it, but I think the Pats O-line played as poorly as the Giant's D-Line played well. At the end of the day it doesn't matter, Brady had a bad game which isn't too bad by most people's standards because they rushed him and sacked him 5 times. I kind of knew it was going to happen after the 1st offensive play, it's almost as if the Pats thought Giants would play the run, which was stupid. Perfect gameplan by Coughlin and the NY coaches.

Posted by: IainDaniel

All the Giants did was improve on what they eploited the last game of the regular season. Get to Brady, and the Offense shuts down.

Posted by: soxmuscle

How big of an idiot is Tiki Barber? What a jackass he is.

Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel

All the Giants did was improve on what they eploited the last game of the regular season. Get to Brady, and the Offense shuts down.

You don't think thats been every teams game plan from the get go?

Posted by: IainDaniel

The Giants had a second chance to learn.... They did it.

I have no doubt they could do it again. At best I see this matchup as a toss-up. 50/50 on who wins.

Giants matched up well.

Even though Eli licks his brothers balls

Posted by: Doublebase

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

You don't think thats been every teams game plan from the get go?

Not until the Eagles executed that plan. They failed in the end but gave the Pats a heck of a battle.

Posted by: soxmuscle

The Giants do match up well against the Patriots, but it's not a toss up game IMO.

The Patriots played the worst game they've played all year, the Giants played one of their bests, and the Patriots still led the entire game and had numerous chances to end it on defense down the stretch.

It's a choke job as much as it is anything else and I don't even say that to take away anything from the Giants. It's just what happened.

Posted by: IainDaniel

The Pats have looked sub-par since that Eagles game.

Teams were starting to figure them out.

Giants were the ones to do it. No choke job. Bigger hearts, and better play calls.

Posted by: IainDaniel

I mean seriously why do you leave Plaxico man to man when they are in the red zone. WTF?

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by Pepper

The joke they are having on the radio and TV is that when he was running he stood for the very last second on the sidelines running up the score.

Posted by: min0 lee

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The Pats were outplayed heavily. I also agree that it was a boring Super Bowl. Tom Petty was awesome, though. If you are a Giants fan or a Pats hater, I can see where it would have been enjoyable.

I disagree, it was a nail biter to the end. I bet 99% of the people thought the Pats were going to win it.

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I think the Belichick thing is a non-issue, it does seem really mundane to run the last play, and I thought his hug/handshake with Coughlin was respectful.

Same here, I do respect his coaching but the guy has some personality issues, he makes Couhlan look like an choir boy.

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As a Pats fan, I have a feeling there is a lot more to Spygate than was let on, and it is unfortunate if that's the case because then I will be a Non-Pats fan, at least until Belichick is gone.

Spygate or not they still proved they can win without spying this year.

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The O-line, Brady, and the defense sucked big time.

Did it suck all of the sudden? Or did the Giants just outplay them? I choose the later, the Giant defensive coach did a great job with the Giant front line.
I saw a different Brady, I think his leg was worse than they let on.

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In fact, Welker was the only one who had a good game for them. Hobbs' interception was great, but certainly did not make up for the last touchdown or other tosses to Burress that he got burned on.

The Giants plan which they openly stated was to not let them get the long bombs, let them get the short yardage and don't let them kill us with the Moss long yardage bombs. Welker was the Pat MVP.

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Oh, and I am beginning to think NYG fans are up there with Eagles fans with regard to sportsmanship and class,
I got a text from someone that read, "You don't know who I am, but f u the Pats lost. Hahaha Biiiotch!" Who goes out of their way to insult someone they don't even know who wasn't even playing in the game? I think it's this fat chick I work with who became a Giants fan this season.

I think the fat chick wants your meat.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

He should show some class, but then again he's a jerk, just a talented jerk.
Pointing fingers to the media is a no-no.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

100% false.

This Patriots team isn't built like the Yankees in 2001 were. The Patriots will need to make a few replacements, but should still be the favorite to win Super Bowl 43.

Must you go there.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

If it was any other coach, this wouldn't even be a thought.

He has a history of being a big jerk.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

There are not too many, there have been to many blowouts in my opinion.
I agree with what Iain, it was a great defensive game played by the Giants and offensive wise it was gutsy on the Giants part, not the best offense but what Eli did was awesome.

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You don't think that has anything to do with an impressive Giant D-line?

Posted by: P-funk

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

You dislike him from when he was with Cleveland right?

I liked him in Cleveland. And, I liked that when Modell moved/stole the team to Baltimore, Belichek resigned as head coaching saying that he didn't feel it was right to take a team away from a city with such loyal fans; so he didn't want to work for modell because of that.

I just don't like how his personalality is now. And he is a poor sport when he loses. He was an asshole to that commentator after the game when he was asked a question and all he said was a short one word answer and walked away. No one likes to lose. But, you have to be honorable in defeat.

I heard on the radio that there was a book already made about the patriots called 19-0, the perfect season....oops.

Posted by: min0 lee

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I don't know if I would go with 8 or 9 out of 10 games. The Giants matched up very well. And proved that the last game of the regular season.

The Pats running game is dependant on the pass, so put pressure on Brady, and the offense is in Trouble. ie 5 sacks and 15 knockdowns.

With that said Eli is still a fag.

I agree with Iain, not with the fag thing.

Posted by: min0 lee

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle

How big of an idiot is Tiki Barber? What a jackass he is.

Yep, who has the last laugh.

I like Tiki, but I guess he's a TV guy now so......

Posted by: min0 lee

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Even though Eli licks his brothers balls

Posted by: P-funk

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Did Moss play?

What a jerk. He was outplayed....but nooo..it was the coaches fault.

what else do you expect from a thug piece of shit. i hope that guy never gets a super bowl.

Posted by: P-funk

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If it was any other coach, this wouldn't even be a thought.

bullshit.

being a sore loser and an asshole always stands out. i would be pissed if it were any coach. even the coach of my team. that shit is just wrong. accept your loss and the fact that you got out played.

Posted by: min0 lee

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I liked him in Cleveland. .

I thought he did well there too, even when he was the defensive coach for the Giants you never heard anything bad.

But, the strange way he quit on the Jets on his first or second day as a head coach was odd. The Mangini brushoff....

Posted by: P-funk

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Originally Posted by min0 lee

Yep, who has the last laugh.

I like Tiki, but I guess he's a TV guy now so......

I wonder how he feels about leaving that team and now they win. I felt like he retired because he didn't want to play anywhere else and he didn't think they would be able to win a championship. I wonder if anyone interviewed him?

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what else do you expect from a thug piece of shit. i hope that guy never gets a super bowl.

Same here, on the other hand I feel bad for Junior Seau not winning a Super Bowl.

Posted by: min0 lee

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I heard him say that he was happy they made it to the Super Bowl and that he made peace with the coach and the quarter back.

Shockey was up in the stands looking at the game, you know he wanted to get back in.

Posted by: P-funk

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Same here, on the other hand I feel bad for Junior Seau not winning a Super Bowl.

yea, me too. I like Seau and think he is a classey guy. A hall a famer who definetly deserves a super bowl ring to end his career.

I am not a fan of Shockey at all, so I couldn't care less. I think this kid they got from Western Oregon, Kevin Boss, is a really good TE though. I think he will do well in the league.

Posted by: Dale Mabry

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I disagree, it was a nail biter to the end. I bet 99% of the people thought the Pats were going to win it.

Same here, I do respect his coaching but the guy has some personality issues, he makes Couhlan look like an choir boy.

Spygate or not they still proved they can win without spying this year.

Did it suck all of the sudden? Or did the Giants just outplay them? I choose the later, the Giant defensive coach did a great job with the Giant front line.
I saw a different Brady, I think his leg was worse than they let on.

The Giants plan which they openly stated was to not let them get the long bombs, let them get the short yardage and don't let them kill us with the Moss long yardage bombs. Welker was the Pat MVP.

I think the fat chick wants your meat.

It was a close game, but by far a well played game. The Giants outplayed the O-line, but I believe it is as much bad Pats as it is good Giants. Do I think the way the Giants played was a factor in how the Pats played? Yes, but you are talking pro-bowl linemen missing assignments. There were at least 4 times where someone came up the middle untouched, and that should never happen.

At the end of the day, the Giants had a better gameplan, and Belichick made some bad choices, chief among them being not kicking the FG and not running nearly enough on the Pats last scoring drive.

Posted by: min0 lee

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At the end of the day, the Giants had a better gameplan, and Belichick made some bad choices, chief among them being not kicking the FG and not running nearly enough on the Pats last scoring drive.

Not kicking the field goal suprised the hell out of me, as soon as Brady missed Moss I thought then we had a slight chance.

Posted by: IainDaniel

I wonder if Peyton let Eli fuck him up the ass last night.

Posted by: min0 lee

19-0: The Historic Championship Season of New England's Unbeatable Patriots (Paperback)

Reminds me of the time the Red Sox had the field painted behind home plate with the words AL league champs or something like that...but then came Boones home run..

Posted by: min0 lee

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I wonder if Peyton let Eli fuck him up the ass last night.

Eli must must have said.....

hey wait! That wasn't funny

Posted by: min0 lee

Think this is it for the Pats?
Will this be the start of a good run for the Giants?

Posted by: IainDaniel

Depends on the extent of Plaxico's injury?

How long will Strahan continue to play.

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YouTube Video

Brady earlier in the week, in response to Plaxico's guaranteed win and score.

HAHA

Posted by: min0 lee

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Depends on the extent of Plaxico's injury?

How long will Strahan continue to play.

Plax AKA plexiglass is hurt often, but I when he's healthy he's pretty good.

Strahan's been playing forever now, Osi, Turk and the rest of the crew were pretty good.

Posted by: Dale Mabry

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Think this is it for the Pats?
Will this be the start of a good run for the Giants?

I think it is the end of the Pats, but I don't think the Giants will even win the NFC East next year. I think with the Eagles being back in it with a healthy McNabb and the Cowboys playing as well as they did during the season it will be tough. Although, if Eli continues to play well and the last 4 games weren't a fluke-type thing they have a chance at working a dynasty, that's the way the Pats dynasty started, with a huge upset.

I see the Pats making 1 more run to the AFC Championship game since they are in the AFC East, but I think more stuff is coming out of Spygate and, if that happens, Belichick is gone.

Posted by: IainDaniel

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Yeah been hearing lots of stuff about the original tape back at the Superbowl against the Rams. And tapes being destroyed at the NFL office.

Posted by: min0 lee

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I thought the Spygate issue was dead.
I don't see McNabb having an ever again.

Posted by: min0 lee

Wow! Eli is the toast of the town now.

That's the thing about playing in NY, you lose and they make life miserable for you. But when you win.....your a hero for life.
Namath, Jackson

Posted by: min0 lee

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I am not a fan of Shockey at all, so I couldn't care less. I think this kid they got from Western Oregon, Kevin Boss, is a really good TE though. I think he will do well in the league.

K Boss made a huge play.....too often I have seen Shockey drop an important pass.

Posted by: Dale Mabry

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I thought the Spygate issue was dead.
I don't see McNabb having an ever again.

No, Spygate was brought up over the last 4 days, some former video assistant came out on ESPN Thursday or Friday saying he has tapes and more damaging evidence. A rumor about taping the Rams during their final runthrough before the Super Bowl has surfaced as well, but I think it's unrelated to that, and the Pats have repeatedly denied it. I think there is something to it, if they were being falsely accused I think there would have been a more aggressive approach to yesterday's game.

McNabb will be top 2 in the NFC next year. Romo or Manning will probably be number 1, but I am not convinced on Eli.

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Assanti makes that interception it's over for the NYG.

Posted by: IainDaniel

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McNabb will be top 2 in the NFC next year.

Are you high right now?!?!?!

Posted by: min0 lee

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I hope they don't find anything, we don't need anymore scandels in sports.

I didn't think much of Eli, but that drive....he had no quit in him.

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Are you high right now?!?!?!

I didn't want to say anything but......
I always thouht of Dale as a Eagle fan.

Posted by: Dale Mabry

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Assanti makes that interception it's over for the NYG.

Yeah, but his feet weren't even inbounds when he landed anyway. I think Harrison should have defended that pass to Tyree, and have no idea how he didn't That was all Tyree, though, I don't think Harrison did anything wrong on that play other than the result.

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Are you high right now?!?!?!

Watch. He has been forced to rehab in Philly during the offseason the last 3 years, this year he gets to go back to Athlete's Performance for the summer and actually train. The last time that happened he went to the Super Bowl. He ended on a very positive note during a season that he had no business coming back from an injury like that so quickly. All they need is a single good receiver and he has a great year, he has enough #2 and #3 receivers.

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I didn't see that.

You couldn't fault Big Mouth Harrison on that play, how he didn't loose the ball is amazing...maybe he had tar on his gloves?

Posted by: Doublebase

There is word that the Ravens are going to offer a package trade for McNabb. The Ravens have the 8th round pick this year.

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There is word that the Ravens are going to offer a package trade for McNabb. The Ravens have the 8th round pick this year.

He would be a nice fit there.

Posted by: Dale Mabry

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I hope they don't find anything, we don't need anymore scandels in sports.

I didn't think much of Eli, but that drive....he had no quit in him.

I am happy for Eli. Probably the most gratifying part of the loss is that legions of NY fans who thought they knew more than the Giants front office and should get rid of Eli and Coughlin will be on their nuts for 6+ months.

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I didn't want to say anything but......
I always thouht of Dale as a Eagle fan.

I don't like the Eagles, I always liked McNabb until he abandoned running altogether to be a white QB. I think the downfall of the Pats is what I have been saying is horrible about the Eagles, an inconsistent run game that leads itself to poor clock management when they need it. 18 times this year they didn't need it, though.

Posted by: Doublebase

Best Super Bowl I've seen in my lifetime.

Fuck the Giants and the Pats. BTW.

Posted by: Dale Mabry

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There is word that the Ravens are going to offer a package trade for McNabb. The Ravens have the 8th round pick this year.

The Eagles would be foolish to get rid of him, but I imagine that Spagnola will want him when he takes that job.

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Best Super Bowl I've seen in my lifetime.

Fuck the Giants and the Pats. BTW.

There are a few....

Both Steelers win over Dallas....both powerhouses.
The Giant and Bills....I also like the Bills
The Stl and Tennesee was real good..to the end.

Posted by: min0 lee

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The Eagles would be foolish to get rid of him, but I imagine that Spagnola will want him when he takes that job.

Nooooooooo

Posted by: min0 lee

SignOnSanDiego.com > Sports -- The QB Mannings: A family affair

Who's partying now?

Giants receiver Amani Toomer on Manning keeping plays alive: “What can you say? You saw the plays he made. He was able to elude the rush at just the right time when we needed it the most. I can't say enough about how Eli played.”

Toomer said the Patriots had been inviting the Giants to their victory parties. “They were inviting us to their parties after the game,” he said. “They showed us no respect.”

Posted by: soxmuscle

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I mean seriously why do you leave Plaxico man to man when they are in the red zone. WTF?

Mind boggling, especially a corner back like Ellis Hobbs whose 5 freakin 9. Thats my height.

Posted by: Doublebase

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There are a few....

Both Steelers win over Dallas....both powerhouses.
The Giant and Bills....I also like the Bills
The Stl and Tennesee was real good..to the end.

Yeah I watched that on ESPN classic the other day. The dude missed that field goal. Giants win by 1 point.

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Scott Norwood.

Posted by: soxmuscle

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I disagree, it was a nail biter to the end. I bet 99% of the people thought the Pats were going to win it.

It took almost 19 full games to get me "worried" this season, which is a nice change of pace considering I'm an emotional wreck all summer.

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Same here, I do respect his coaching but the guy has some personality issues, he makes Couhlan look like an choir boy.

I don't think he has personality issues at all. Some people are made for the spotlight, some aren't. Tom Brady enjoys the cameras, enjoys being a celebrity, and everything that comes with it. Bill Belichick doesn't enjoy being in the spotlight and likes to keep his personality/life separate from his job, which is common in work places I've been around.

I don't know which person I'd be if I was in either situation, but I can certainly see me rolling my eyes in my head and giving a short "is this guy fucking serious" response when a reporter whose been trying to get me fired for the last year asks me a stupid question.

You guys don't hear him on EEI, you guys don't know anything about him.

I've had one interaction with him, the time at the barber shop when he went out of his way to get my address because he didn't want to sign a newspaper or a hat or something that wasn't going to last. He probably went home that afternoon, got three 8x10's, signed them and put them in the mail himself. All three were personally autographed, so there really isn't a doubt in my mind.

You can think what you'd like, but the guys a hell of a coach and an even better person when he's in situations he's comfortable in, talking on radio shows to personalities he's familiar with, etc.

Again, I'd love to see some of your responses... for instance..

Patrick, what if a client told your boss at the gym that you had touched her in a sexually explicit manner and got you docked pay and then ruthlessly continued to try and get you fired and then asked you "Am I squatting right?" or something of the sort. If it was me, I'd slap the bitch.

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Spygate or not they still proved they can win without spying this year.

Spygate means nothing to me. A simple ESPN fueled story that was taken way out of context. Notice how FOX didn't have one mention of it all of yesterday, in either their pregame, in game, and postgame coverage.

Arlen Specter is a bitter, no good, motherfucker who likes to hear him talk. Who has time to appear on Mike & Mike in the morning at 6, Cold Pizza at 8, and then Wolf Blitzer at noon? Needless to say, I can't wait to hear his response to the letter I sent him.

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Did it suck all of the sudden? Or did the Giants just outplay them? I choose the later, the Giant defensive coach did a great job with the Giant front line.

The Giants defensive coach had a gameplan and his players executed it to perfection. The Patriots were still leading almost the entire game though, so I'm not sure you can say that the Giants completely outplayed the Patriots as most here seem to be saying.

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I saw a different Brady, I think his leg was worse than they let on.

Not that Brady is agile, but there wasn't a doubt in my mind after seeing him get hit a couple of times, that we were going to see him elude players like he usually can.

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The Giants plan which they openly stated was to not let them get the long bombs, let them get the short yardage and don't let them kill us with the Moss long yardage bombs. Welker was the Pat MVP.

The Giants have trouble guarding the middle of the field. Tight ends have been unstoppable against the Giants all season, Ben Watson should have been involved more in the offense.

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