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Brady and Moss out of Pro Bowl


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Posted by: P-funk

I could see Brady sitting out due to the injured ankle. Moss is a cry baby. Fuck that guy. He deserves to be in prison with Vick. Piece of shit.

On the flip side...yea for Derek Anderson. Well deserved.

Moss shows his true colors finally....a real baby. All it takes is one loss and he cries.



Posted by: shiznit2169

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I could see Brady sitting out due to the injured ankle. Moss is a cry baby. Fuck that guy. He deserves to be in prison with Vick. Piece of shit.

On the flip side...yea for Derek Anderson. Well deserved.

Moss shows his true colors finally....a real baby. All it takes is one loss and he cries.
Do you realize the Pro Bowl doesn't mean anything? I mean, it's a long trip to Hawaii and he has already been there before. Nobody gives two shits about the game and it is just a popularity contest just like all the other all-star games for other sports. Several other athletes opted out and they are not injured either.



Posted by: P-funk

I realize it doesn't mean anything.

But, if you aren't going to go, then respectfully decline when you are asked to be there. Don't just be a sore loser and duck out because you are crying over your loss in the super bowl.

Moss is a piece of shit. Always has been. Always will be.



Posted by: Irons77

Damn good at the WR slot. can't take that away from him!



Posted by: P-funk

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Damn good at the WR slot. can't take that away from him!
I never said he was bad. He is an incredible talent. I just don't like his attitude. Unprofessional.



Posted by: soxmuscle

You keep saying this, why is he a piece of shit?

I used to have my doubts about any black man with tattoos, a somewhat troubled past, and corn rows. Randy Moss has changed these close minded thoughts of mine as he's been nothing but a class act all season and I can't thank him enough for it.



Posted by: P-funk

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You keep saying this, why is he a piece of shit?

I used to have my doubts about any black man with tattoos, a somewhat troubled past, and corn rows. Randy Moss has changed these close minded thoughts of mine as he's been nothing but a class act all season and I can't thank him enough for it.
He is a piece of shit because he is unprofessional.

he has been a class act in new england because they are winning. once they lose he points fingers, "it was the coaching. we were out-coached." He is a baby and he can never accept some fault.

Also, he is a piece of shit because in Oakland he would say things like "i don't even care. I don;t eve try out there any more."

How can you not say he is trash when he does shit like that? You are paid to play the game. Go and do your job. He has a shitty attitude and now that New England lost, it has shown up again.



Posted by: soxmuscle

One quote of him saying the Giants had a better game plan makes him some hoodlum? I just don't buy it.



Posted by: soxmuscle

Don't know why it did that. My internet sucks right now with the shitty weather.



Posted by: soxmuscle

Oh, and now that I have your attention.

You were talking about how you thought Belichick was a piece of shit.

I tried spinning it around to your situation.

Belichick is an entirely different person compared to his NFL required post game interviews and the interviews he gives on Monday after games on WEEI.

With that said. Would you react any differently than Belichick does to the national media if.. for instance..

you were training an attractive female, the female made a ridiculous claim to your boss that you touched her inappropriately and you were docked pay/punished because of it. then she constantly would rag on you in hopes of getting you fired/in more trouble over the next 4-5 months and then suddenly went up to you and asked you "hey, am I doing the squats right!?"

I honestly can't fathom how Belichick can even look at those guys in the face no less mutter a short sentence.



Posted by: P-funk

how do you know belicheat is a different person? All we know of his is the persona he puts on in the interview and on the field (being a cock and brushing off mangini last year was realy classey).



Posted by: soxmuscle

Well I've met the man first hand, but if that's not good enough (which it shouldn't be, it was only for a 10-15 minute talk) I was comparing the interviews he gives every Monday on WEEI to the ones he gives following games that he is required to do.

These are low life scum sucking journalists who for the past year have done everything in their capacity to make him look as bad as they possibly can.

If some guy wrote an article about how much I sucked, the following week if he asked me another question, I would knock him out.

But thats just me..



Posted by: P-funk

I hear. But, that comes with the territory. Persoanlly, I thought guys like Parcells and Bobby Knight were more entertaining to watch in those interviews. They knew how to put people in their place.

I just don't like Belichek's personality. but I love his coaching and I loved him in cleveland and i would want him to coach my team any day.



Posted by: soxmuscle

I completely agree it comes with the territory. It's just some people are made to be celebs and some aren't.

Tom Brady and Bill Belichick are butt buddies behind the scenes but yet they differ completely when the spotlights on them.

I guess I just think the Belichick hate isn't fair..



Posted by: P-funk

i wouldn't think the hate was fair if he were coaching the browns either.



Posted by: soxmuscle

Am I really being that bias with this?



Posted by: soxmuscle

Oh god... I can't wait until Romeo Crennel is in the lime light as much as other coaches are. As soon as that Browns team gets good, the media is going to tear that poor guy apart.



Posted by: P-funk

Crenel is way to soft spoken. It is akward when he shows emotion.



Posted by: soxmuscle

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Crenel is way to soft spoken. It is akward when he shows emotion.
Exactly.

He's a hell of a football mind but he's as quiet as they come.



Posted by: Dale Mabry

I think they were outcoached down the stretch, and NYs gameplan was much better.



Posted by: shiznit2169

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Posted by: shiznit2169

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He is a piece of shit because he is unprofessional.

he has been a class act in new england because they are winning. once they lose he points fingers, "it was the coaching. we were out-coached." He is a baby and he can never accept some fault.

Also, he is a piece of shit because in Oakland he would say things like "i don't even care. I don;t eve try out there any more."

How can you not say he is trash when he does shit like that? You are paid to play the game. Go and do your job. He has a shitty attitude and now that New England lost, it has shown up again.
Well, what do you want him to say? As a Patriots fan, i agree with him. Along with the Giants defense stepping it up and playing a great game, the Patriots were clearly out-coached in this game. Belichick made some stupid mistakes (going for it on 4th and 13 rather than kicking a field goal and running the ball twice on 2nd/3rd and 3 in Giants territory rather than do a screen pass or a quick pass to Welker which is what they have been doing all year).

The Patriots played not to lose. I knew right from the start that their conservative play was going to bite them in the ass down the stretch.



Posted by: soxmuscle

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I think they were outcoached down the stretch, and NYs gameplan was much better.
Oh, absolutely.

That's why I have no problem with Randy Moss making a similar statement following their loss.

It just goes to show how good the Patriots are. They were leading the entire game, they failed numerous times to put them away and they played without a doubt in my mind their worst game of this season.

Strahan can talk all he wants, but this is one of those games where the better team lost.

Would've, Should've, Could've.



Posted by: Triple Threat

So NE is now the answer to this trivia question. What is the only NFL team to go through an entire season with just one loss and not win the Super Bowl?



Posted by: min0 lee

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I never said he was bad. He is an incredible talent. I just don't like his attitude. Unprofessional.
Right on the nose....he has no class. The piece of shit.



Posted by: min0 lee

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I think they were outcoached down the stretch, and NYs gameplan was much better.
I still find it hard to believe Belichick was out coached, it doesn't happen too often.



Posted by: min0 lee

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You keep saying this, why is he a piece of shit?

I used to have my doubts about any black man with tattoos, a somewhat troubled past, and corn rows. Randy Moss has changed these close minded thoughts of mine as he's been nothing but a class act all season and I can't thank him enough for it.
You shouldn't judge someone because of his looks, some guys just like the look. The same can be said about white guys with tattoos and very long hair with huge beards.
Look at Kelju as an example.

Just do a search on Moss's track record.



Posted by: soxmuscle

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I still find it hard to believe Belichick was out coached, it doesn't happen too often.
There's a reason why I didn't take the points in any game this season since Colvin went down.

The 3-4 defense didn't supply an ample pass rush since Colvin got hurt, why would it change against the best team in the NFC?

Plus, McDaniels called the worst offensive game in his life. The injury to Neal and Faulk didn't help, but the Patriots have so much depth that you could have used a plethora of various types of screens, short routes across the middle, tight end fly's, etc to lessen the pass rush from the linebackers who seemed to get in untouched every play.

They were outcoached, necessary adjustments were not made.

Again, the Patriots had every chance to win that game despite everything that could go wrong, going wrong.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Oh, absolutely.

That's why I have no problem with Randy Moss making a similar statement following their loss.
I disagree, if I have a problem with anyone I would go to the source during and after the game, it should stay inh house which is one of Belichicks rules...don't embaress and put down your coach. How often do you hear a coach say "Moss was lazy today"



Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by min0 lee View Post
You shouldn't judge someone because of his looks, some guys just like the look. The same can be said about white guys with tattoos and very long hair with huge beards.
Look at Kelju as an example.

Just do a search on Moss's track record.
I've read his wikipedia before.

I guess Marijuana charges mean nothing to me because I and many of the people I associate myself smoke pot regularly.



Posted by: soxmuscle

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I disagree, if I have a problem with anyone I would go to the source during and after the game, it should stay inh house which is one of Belichicks rules...don't embaress and put down your coach. How often do you hear a coach say "Moss was lazy today"
What was the exact quote? I can't seem to find it.



Posted by: min0 lee

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There's a reason why I didn't take the points in any game this season since Colvin went down.

The 3-4 defense didn't supply an ample pass rush since Colvin got hurt, why would it change against the best team in the NFC?

Plus, McDaniels called the worst offensive game in his life. The injury to Neal and Faulk didn't help, but the Patriots have so much depth that you could have used a plethora of various types of screens, short routes across the middle, tight end fly's, etc to lessen the pass rush from the linebackers who seemed to get in untouched every play.

They were outcoached, necessary adjustments were not made.

Again, the Patriots had every chance to win that game despite everything that could go wrong, going wrong.
Chicky tends to play it safe in the Super bowl, the defense should have shut Eli down when they had the lead in the last quarter.
To be honest with you, after that last Brady TD I thought it wasn't enough time for Eli.



Posted by: min0 lee

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I've read his wikipedia before.

I guess Marijuana charges mean nothing to me because I and many of the people I associate myself smoke pot regularly.
Hah! You have to dig deeper, he almost ran over a meter maid....but then again that may be a good thing.



Posted by: min0 lee

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What was the exact quote? I can't seem to find it.
That was hypothetically speaking.



Posted by: soxmuscle

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Chicky tends to play it safe in the Super bowl, the defense should have shut Eli down when they had the lead in the last quarter.
To be honest with you, after that last Brady TD I thought it wasn't enough time for Eli.
I thought it was over as well. Not because I didn't think Eli could do it, but because I thought the Patriots would be the team to make "plays" and not the Giants. It became clear to me that after Samuel missed that interception and Tyree made the catch, that it just wasn't the Patriots day.

Imagine what kind of money Samuel would be looking at this offseason if he had made the interception that sealed the deal.



Posted by: min0 lee

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I thought it was over as well. Not because I didn't think Eli could do it, but because I thought the Patriots would be the team to make "plays" and not the Giants. It became clear to me that after Samuel missed that interception and Tyree made the catch, that it just wasn't the Patriots day.

Imagine what kind of money Samuel would be looking at this off season if he had made the interception that sealed the deal.
I didn't think Eli had it in him, I don't think many people did either. He was on a mission in that last few minutes...most QB's his age would have succumb to the pressure.
The Patriots always make the "Plays".

Asanti is still going to make money, I hear he may go to the Jets where they are willing to pay him the kind of money the Pats won't pay....Ty Law.....



Posted by: soxmuscle

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Hah! You have to dig deeper, he almost ran over a meter maid....but then again that may be a good thing.
Lets look...

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In 1997, Randy Moss was quoted, in a Sports Illustrated article as saying the 1970 Marshall plane crash "was a tragedy, but it really wasn't nothing big."[12] Moss claimed that the quote was taken out of context.
I believe him when he says the quote was taken out of context. SI will do anything to sell magazines.

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On September 24, 2002 in downtown Minneapolis, Minnesota, Moss was driving and was preparing to make an illegal turn. A traffic control officer, noticing what he was about to do, stood in front of his car, ordering him to stop. Eyewitness accounts of the event differ at this point, but Moss didn't comply with the officer's order, and she was bumped by his vehicle and fell to the ground. Moss was arrested, and a search of his vehicle revealed a small amount of marijuana.[13] Initially charged with Suspicion of Assault with a Deadly Weapon which is a felony and a misdemeanor marijuana possession, Moss pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor traffic violation, and was ordered to pay a $1,200 fine and perform 40 hours of community service.[14]
A lot of young, rich, famous, "above the world" type celebrities have done far worse. Not justifying it, but I don't think he's a thug because of this incident.

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During the last game of the 2004 regular season against the Washington Redskins and with two seconds remaining on the game clock, Moss walked off the field and into the locker room; critics criticized Moss for quitting on his team.[15] Moss stated afterward that he didn’t think Minnesota, who ended up losing 21-18 to Washington, would recover the onside kick.[16]
Unacceptable to leave the field like that, I'll admit it.

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On January 9, 2005, the Minnesota Vikings traveled to Green Bay to take on the heavily favored division rival Green Bay Packers, in an NFC wildcard playoff game. Moss was effective, finishing the game with 4 catches for 70 yards and 2 touchdowns in the 31-17 win. After the second score, Moss trotted to the end zone goalpost. Facing away from the crowd, he feigned pulling down his pants, and pretended to moon the Green Bay fans. TV announcer Joe Buck, who was calling the game, was incensed at the mooning, calling it "a disgusting act" on-air. Days later, the NFL fined him $10,000, finding it "unsportsmanlike" and "offensive" during the playoffs. However, Indianapolis Colts head coach Tony Dungy, the former Vikings defensive coordinator, explained Moss' action by pointing out that Green Bay Packers fans are infamous for actually mooning the buses of departing opponents,[17] unlike Moss' fully-clothed imitation.
The Packers might be my least favorite football team in the league, I was in stitches when this happened. They couldn't stop him that game.

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In August 2005, during an interview with Bryant Gumbel, Moss admitted that he has smoked marijuana during his NFL career "every blue moon."[18]
Uh-oh, hang him. That crosses the line!

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On November 14, 2006, Moss was honored for his success in college as a kick returner by having an award named after him, becoming only one of two black athletes (along with John Mackey) so honored. During the press conference, Moss responded to questions about his dropped passes and lackluster effort in several games, saying "Maybe because I'm unhappy and I'm not too much excited about what's going on, so, my concentration and focus level tend to go down sometimes when I'm in a bad mood."[19] Days later, he reiterated his unhappiness with losing games and being a member of the Raiders on his weekly segment with Fox Sports Radio, saying, "I might want to look forward to moving somewhere else next year to have another start and really feel good about going out here and playing football."[20] Moss made similar comments during his tenure with the Vikings, when he infamously proclaimed, "I play when I want to play."[21]
On May 15, 2007, more than two weeks after the trade to New England, Moss was called out by his former Raiders coaches. His former offensive coordinator, Tom Walsh, who was fired from the Raiders after Oakland's 2-14 losing season, said of Moss, "Randy Moss is a player whose skills are diminishing, and he's in denial of those eroding skills...Randy was a great receiver, but he lacked the work ethic and the desire to cultivate any skills that would compensate for what he was losing physically later in his career." Walsh also reported that Moss told him, "'I'm too old to practice on Wednesday and Thursday, but I'm not too old to play on Sunday.'"[22] However, Moss stated the losing seasons on the Oakland Raiders negatively affected his playing and discouraged him during the team's practice: "...Losing sometimes can get contagious, but as a player I can't let that settle in, and I think that's one of the things that bothered me [in Oakland]. I didn't want it to set in and it didn't set in. It was just really nerve-racking that it was hard for me to win."[22]
The Raiders coaches were dead wrong about his "diminishing skills," so I find it hard to believe they were right about anything else. Plus, it's the Raiders, arguably the worst franchise in sports right now. Blah.

The last incident is just stupid, the bitch tried to get money from him by bringing about charges. Another thing that ESPN took out of context. Fuck ESPN.



Posted by: soxmuscle

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I didn't think Eli had it in him, I don't think many people did either. He was on a mission in that last few minutes...most QB's his age would have succumb to the pressure.
The Patriots always make the "Plays".

Asanti is still going to make money, I hear he may go to the Jets where they are willing to pay him the kind of money the Pats won't pay....Ty Law.....
They made the right decision with Ty Law and Lawyer Milloy, what makes you think they won't make the right decision with Asante Samuel?

Cornerbacks can be replaced.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Cornerbacks can be replaced.
Really, the Giants haven't had a good one in years.
Sehorn......nah.

I always thought that was a hard to fill position.



Posted by: soxmuscle

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Really, the Giants haven't had a good one in years.
Sehorn......nah.

I always thought that was a hard to fill position.
Well, you have to have good scouts

I'm just saying... The Patriots cornerbacks for the last couple of years have been Samuel (drafted in the 4th round), Ellis Hobbs (3rd round), and Randall Gay (wasn't drafted, rookie free agent).



Posted by: min0 lee

Were all of these moves by Chicky or the Pats Gm?

Whoever it is has an eye for talent.



Posted by: shiznit2169

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They made the right decision with Ty Law and Lawyer Milloy, what makes you think they won't make the right decision with Asante Samuel?

Cornerbacks can be replaced.
In all honesty, it's Ellis Hobbs that needs to go. The guy gets burned on every route and lacks size especially when big receivers like Plaxico can toy with him. He's horrible.

Asante definitely didn't match up last year's performance but i'd give him one more year. Next season will be a make or break season for him regarding his future.



Posted by: soxmuscle

Hobbs isn't a shut down corner, but I actually like him. It's not his fault that the Patriots coaching staff is stubborn when it comes to "matching up" on receivers.

Samuel should have been on Plax in the first game and he definitely should have been on him in the Super Bowl.



Posted by: min0 lee

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Hobbs isn't a shut down corner, but I actually like him. It's not his fault that the Patriots coaching staff is stubborn when it comes to "matching up" on receivers.

Samuel should have been on Plax in the first game and he definitely should have been on him in the Super Bowl.
Was he covering Smith?
That doesn't make any sense.



Posted by: soxmuscle

They went into details about Belichicks "rule" in the final game of the season against the Giants. To avoid confusion, I guess Samuel and Hobbs are locked on whichever side they're better at as opposed to matching up on receivers.

It's not that bad of a scheme, I mean, Hobbs/Samuel are the same size, neither could have stopped Plaxico on the game ender.




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