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Posted by: J'Bo

Well here i am again, time to get back to work after a week and a half of piggin out post competition i am ready to get back to work.

Goals: Build 10 lbs of lean muscle mass for my next years competitions.

Current Stats:
Height: 5'9
Weight: 128lbs
Body Fat: 15%

Competition goal stats:
Weight: 135lbs
Body Fat: 11%

Moves I want to include in routine next year: Full splits, Front tuck, Round-off double back hand-spring, arial, one handed press hold, straddle up to handstand and down to press, and Pretzel push ups.

These moves probably wont make much sense to most of you, but will remind me of my goals.

I need a little help on creating a new diet for my long bulking period. I am going to start creatine in September only because it bloats me too much for the summer monthes. I will also be taking Glutamine and my regular vitamins and minerals daily.



Posted by: J'Bo

Monday Am: Legs
Machine Squats: 5 sets of 3-5 reps (5 sec lower and 5 secs up)
Wide Grip Deadlifts on Platform: 5 sets of 3-5 reps (same tempo)
Lying Leg Curls: 5 sets of 4 reps (8 sec up and 1 sec lower)
Standing Calf Raises: 3 sets of 8-10 reps (2 sec up, 2 sec pause, and 1 sec lower)
Monday Pm: 11/2 hours of gymnastics

Tuesday: Rest

Wednesday:
Chest
Flat Bench Press: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Cable Cross Overs: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Incline Flyes: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Pullovers: 3 sets of 8 reps

Tris (tri-set)
Rope Pulldowns: 3 sets of failure
Skull Crusher: 3 sets of failure
Weighted Dips: 3 sets of failure

Thursday: Rest

Friday:
Shoulders
Smith Machine: 4 sets of 10,8,6,5 reps going up the rack
Lateral Raises: First Set: 8lbs, 10lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs, 8lbs (4 reps each weight). Second Set: 8lbs, 10lbs, 12lbs, 15lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs, 8lbs (3 reps each weight). Third Set: 10lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs (3 reps each weight). Fourth Set: 15lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs, 8lbs, 5lbs, 3lbs (til failure).
Bent Over Rows: 3 sets of 12,10, 8, 6 reps going up the rack.

Saturday: Rest

Sunday:
Back
Wide Grip Chins: 3 sets til failure
Seated Cable Rows: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
T-Bar Rows: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Straight Arm Pushdowns: 3 sets of 4-6 reps

Biceps
Cable Curls: 3 sets of drop down reps til failure
Incline hammers: 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Ez-Bar Curls: 2 sets of 10,8 reps
(just to kill myself at the end of the workout)



Posted by: Rissole

I'll be watching........



Posted by: J'Bo

Ok so no one has any input on my new training schedule?
I usually never have to beg to get people to add their two cents.
Are we slipping here people?

As for the bulking diet, i am kinda clueless as to what kind of calories and protein/carb/fat ratio. I know i have talked to some trainers and they are telling me to eat weird things like 1/2 cup of ice cream before bed, pop tarts and donuts. I do like the sounds of that, but i think i may have a heart attack before i reach my goals.



Posted by: Rissole

Why dont you have a look a my diet...... lol
sorry couldnt help myself



Posted by: lina

Hey J'Bo!!!

Popped in here last night but hesitated to post... Love your GO-GET-'M goals! How long have you done gymnastics?

As far as a bulk, I would just do a clean bulk and not eat things like icecream, pop tarts, etc. I think it's ok for a free meal or treat but not to bulk otherwise you'll be gaining more fat than you want... and then it gets harder come crunch time... I'm sure DPw8 will have a good program out there for you!

Looking forward to reading your journal and watching you reach for your stars!



Posted by: ponyboy

I'm going to add my two cents because that's what you asked for...hopefully after I win my first competition people will take me more seriously, but right now I'll speak as a trainer...

Your workouts look to me like overtraining...I'll explain...

For example, leg day is 18 total sets of intense reps (high negatives), and then you're going to do 1.5 hours of gymnastics on top of that? I'm really glad you take a rest day after that. Same with your shoulder workout...drop sets are extremely taxing on the systems because you build up a LOT of lactic acid while doing them.

Would it not make more sense to do functional exercises designed to strengthen what you need to do the holds you're going to need to do? For example, push-ups from various angles to help with your holds, etc. I would assume stretching is a major part of your program as you're going to have to do the splits, etc. (unless you can already do that in which case I'm really jealous). Maybe do a few days a month of plyometrics to help with your gymnastic training?

I would just hate to see you burn out too quickly. I'm not going to comment on diet b/c that's not my business. I'm just giving you what you wanted, an opinion. You have obviously been doing the right things so far and I wish you the best of luck.



Posted by: Jodi

Hey J'Bo Sorry I'm not experienced enough to tell you about your eating or training. BUTT - I did pop in to say Good Luck Girl! Your journals are great to follow and can be very inspiring. I'll enjoy watching this one as well. Now go KICK SOME ASS!



Posted by: Stacey

Me too girl~ I am not experineced enough to give ya advice! BUT GOOD LUCK!!!



Posted by: J'Bo

Lina: I have only done gymnastics since last October and i have learnt alot since then. Thanks for posting messages, i need everyones help and support. I am not going to go pop tarting it any time soon, cause i know what the recovery diet would look like, so i am going to have a treat day and a treat food a week.

Oh Ponyboy do have a few cents to return to you. LoL.
The leg program and the shoulder program is not one that i am going to make any changes on. I used these same killer programs to build muscle in only 3 weeks time i made great gains. I love to push hard and i have seen amazing results from these programs already, but as you said i may have to switch my leg day because of gymnastics later on in the day. We dont use legs as much as the other bodyparts so i thought it would be a good move. Doing specific exercises like push ups and press holds are included in my gymnastics training. I would rather concentrate on big muscle building moves rather than polishing exercises. I stretch everyday post exercise and 30 min on gymnastics day, i need too to improve my flexibility. Thanks for all your input i really appreciate it, keep it coming. I will let you know how this routine is going and whether or not i can handle it.

Mochy: You look qualified to help me girl. Everyone can learn something from everyone they talk to. So feel free to give me your opinions. Thanks.

Princess: Advice is good. Thanks.



Posted by: w8lifter

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo
Monday Am: Legs
Machine Squats: 5 sets of 3-5 reps (5 sec lower and 5 secs up)
Wide Grip Deadlifts on Platform: 5 sets of 3-5 reps (same tempo)
Lying Leg Curls: 5 sets of 4 reps (8 sec up and 1 sec lower)
Standing Calf Raises: 3 sets of 8-10 reps (2 sec up, 2 sec pause, and 1 sec lower)
Monday Pm: 11/2 hours of gymnastics


This leg program looks familiar Are you still following that program? Moving to different phases when required?


Tuesday: Rest

Wednesday:
Chest
Flat Bench Press: 5 sets of 4-6 reps
Pullovers: 3 sets of 8 reps
Cable Cross Overs: 4 sets of 5-6 reps

Tris (tri-set)
Weighted Dips: 3 sets of failure
Skull Crusher: 3 sets of failure
Rope Pulldowns: 3 sets of failure


I think you'll want to increase your reps on the press and x-overs...12, 10, 8, 6...I'd do only 4 sets bench, 3 of the x-overs and add another exercise, 3 sets...flyes, incline DB press, pec dec, etc....and make pullovers last exercise.

tri's...reverse those exercises




Thursday: Rest

Friday:
Shoulders
Smith Machine: 4 sets of 10,8,6,5 reps going up the rack
Lateral Raises: First Set: 8lbs, 10lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs, 8lbs (4 reps each weight). Second Set: 8lbs, 10lbs, 12lbs, 15lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs, 8lbs (3 reps each weight). Third Set: 10lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs (3 reps each weight). Fourth Set: 15lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs, 8lbs, 5lbs, 3lbs (til failure).
Bent Over Rows: 3 sets of 12,10, 8, 6 reps going up the rack.

Saturday: Rest

Sunday:
Back
Seated Cable Rows: 4 sets of 6-8 reps
Straight Arm Pushdowns: 3 sets of 4-6 reps
Wide Grip Chins: 4 sets til failure

Biceps
Cable Curls: 4 sets of drop down reps til failure
Incline hammers: 4 sets of 5 reps

I'd put the chins first. Then cables, I'd increase the reps...similar to chest...12, 10, 8, 6 increasing w8 w/ each set. You also need another exercise here...t-bar rows, bent over bb rows, plate-loaded rows, etc.

Increase your reps on the hammers....8-10.

You need more variety...you might be better off doing 3 sets instead of 4 or 5 and adding another exercise to hit your muscles from a variety of different angles.



Please let me know what you think of this training schedule. I put legs and shoulders by themselves because they need the most work. My triceps are strong so i put them with my weak chest and my back is strong so i put them with my weak bis. I also do abs on my shoulder days, but i could use some exercises to build my plates up. I usually do abs on a decline along with v-sits and leg raises to strengthen my abs and hip flexors.




Posted by: ponyboy

Bottom line is: Do what works. Obviously what you are doing is working. So keep it up!



Posted by: J'Bo

W8: The leg routine was given to me by a pro. I love it and am starting phase 2 next week (as posted). I dont ever want to do anything else but the program you gave me. It rules.
Chest and Tri days i will definately switch as per your suggestions.
Thanks for your suggestions, i will post a revised w/o asap.

Ponyboy: Thanks!

The changes are made to the original post above.



Posted by: w8lifter

LOL....that's great.....when you're done it though, I think you'll be glad to move onto something else

It'll be awesome to compare the change though



Posted by: J'Bo

I am sure i will be dead after this w/o plan, and i am always excited about starting or changing new training programs. Love the shoulder one though, and am going to have a hard time trying to find a killer routine like this one again.



Posted by: J'Bo

Well i am back to the healthy eating world. I have decided that i am going to have one cheat day a week (i wont post my food then) and one cheat food in the middle of the week to keep me sane.



Meal One:
1 Tablespoon s/f jam
1/2 cup oatmeal
6 egg whites
2 egg yolks

multi-vitamin, mag, cal, c

Totals per fitday: calories: 313, Fat: 12, Carbs: 21, Protein: 29

I am going to do some research on the net tonight to see what i am really supposed to be taking in Calorie and protein wise for builking up. So right now i am doing this blind, but any suggestions would really help me out.

Can i add an extra piece of fruit into my day?
WW pasta or a potato every 4 days?

Well i am off to train legs now, i'll let you know how it goes.
I also thought about starting DHEA, what are your opinions? DP, W8 and anyone else?



Posted by: w8lifter

DP said not to take the DHEA (answered in nutrition).

If you're going to eat that crap (pasta, potato) at least do it post w/o

J'bo....no need to look around the net to find what your kcal intake should be....you've been logging your food and know your current calories intake...increase it by 200-300 per day this week, when you think you're not gaining, add another 200-300.



Posted by: J'Bo

Yah i got the no to DHEA from DP, facial hair and a deep voice really arent my thing. If i grow a penis however, i think it maybe fun. LoL.

I will be sure to eat all my crap post w/o.

Isnt it nessesary for people to consume a wide variety of foods to get all the nessesary nutritional needs? I hardly think that oatmeal, brown rice and sweet potatos are the only good sources of carbs on tis earth. If they are then i would rather be a fatty then eat like that forever.

Thanks for the numbers on the calorie upage(?). What kinds of foods are good to add to my original diet that i was using?



Posted by: J'Bo

Ok so it was my first day back in the gym and unfortunately i got there too late in the day (12pm) and so i caught all the talkers. I hate when all people want to do in the gym is talk. Isn't that what a coffee shop is for? Maybe i need to open a coffee shop beside the gym.

Anyways i have a feeling i won't be able to sit tommorrow.

Leg Day

Squats: 5x50lbs, 5x70lbs, 5x80lbs, 5x90lbs, 5x100lbs (i geuss i under estimated what i could actually lift). I will start at 80lbs next time

Deadlifts on Platform: 5x45lbs, 5x65lbs, 5x65lbs, 5x65lbs, 5x65lbs (i dont really care for these). I did not move up in weight because my pulled hamstring was a little sore and did not want to repull it.

Lying Leg Curls: 4x30lbs, 4x40lbs, 4x40lbs, 4x30lbs, 4x30lbs (love the 8sec up and 1 sec down tempo). But my quads were hurting a bit when i did this machine. Why?

Standing Calf Raises: 10x140lbs, 10x140lbs, 9x140lbs (love the burning). Will go up next time though.

The workout wasnt that great because my thumb was killing me. I have to keep it taped for a while. I can take the pain.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo
Yah i got the no to DHEA from DP, facial hair and a deep voice really arent my thing. If i grow a penis however, i think it maybe fun. LoL.

I will be sure to eat all my crap post w/o.

Isnt it nessesary for people to consume a wide variety of foods to get all the nessesary nutritional needs? I hardly think that oatmeal, brown rice and sweet potatos are the only good sources of carbs on tis earth. If they are then i would rather be a fatty then eat like that forever.

Thanks for the numbers on the calorie upage(?). What kinds of foods are good to add to my original diet that i was using?


Lentils
Berries
Apples
grapefriut
all greens
non starchy green, yellow, and white veggies
tomatoes
peaches




and more, w8, please post the "shopping list"

ALWAYS WITH PROTEIN, FAT, AND FIBER!


DP



Posted by: Dr. Pain

J'Bo

Team DPw8 does have a woman's "bulking" program!


DPw8



Posted by: J'Bo

Nice i definately like that list.
Thanks alot team DPw8.
Could you post the shopping list for me?
I am working on making me and my bf lean mean muscle machines (well lean enough for now).
BTW we need a smilie that blows kisses, dont you think?

That Chicken daddy guy sure gets riled up hey!



Posted by: w8lifter

sf low carb protein powder
lean beef
chicken breast
turkey breast
fresh fish
canned tuna
canned salmon
eggs
creamed cottage cheese**
hard cheese **
sweet potatoes
yams
long grain brown rice
old fashioned oats
steel cut oats
eggplant
squash
romaine lettuce
spinach
asparagus
avocado
broccoli
brussels sprouts
cabbage
cauliflower
cucumbers
celery
peppers (any color)
mushrooms
string beans
zucchini
apples
bananas**
fresh or frozen (w/o syrup) berries
peaches
grapefruit
heavy whipping cream (35% m.f....NOT whipped cream the dessert topping)
olive oil
safflower oil
flax seed oil
walnut oil
almonds
walnuts
natural sugar-free peanut butter

** Not all foods on this list should be used at all times...the banana for instance should only be used during a carb up and/or a bulk.



Posted by: w8lifter

Bulking Diet



Posted by: J'Bo

Thanks alot w8 and dp.
This diet looks like one i can actually stick too.
I found a new way of eating oatmeal, and i actually like to eat it now.
Could you let me know if it is alright?

1/3 cup of uncooked oatmeal
1 tablespoon of s/f jam
1/4 cup natural yogurt

ummm good.
the breakdown is as follows:
yogurt: 43 cal, 4.2 p, 0.1 f, and 6 c
jam: 20 cal, 0 p, 0 f, and 5.4 c
oatmeal: 114 cal, 4.2 p, 2 f, and, 20 c
Plus i eat this with my 5 egg whites plus 2 yolks.

Is this a good meal one?



Posted by: w8lifter

That'll be okay J'bo



Posted by: J'Bo

Well my gluts are ok, i thought that they would be alot more sore. My calfs however feel like they have ripped off my legs. I love the pain. I completely forgot about my diet yesterday so i will just mark todays down.

Meal One:
5 egg whites (2 yolks)
1 tablespoon s/f jam
1/3 cup of raw oatmeal
1/4 cup natural yogurt

Meal Two:
4 tablespoons whipping cream
4 strawberries
1.5 scoops protein

Meal Three:
Tin of tuna
2 tablespoons mayo
Stalk of celery
3/4 cup basmati rice

BTW thanks for the shopping list. I am sure going to have fun shopping this week. Yahhhooo white rice. I am set.



Posted by: nikegurl

Hi J'Bo! Good to see your new journal! You'll be able to reach your goals and more! Was it hard for you to get back to the eating plan after the post-contest cheats or did you just feel ready?

Psst - ....I didn't see white rice on the shopping list!



Posted by: tgkfour1

J'Bo- Good Luck this round! We'll be watching & waiting. Looking forward to a bigger, better you! You know you're gonna kick some butt!

Can you post any intermediate pix of the progress? We'd obviously be psyched by seeing your gains. Your recent success was real soul-candy for all of us

I'll be putting my 30 day pic out there since getting serious here at IM- your feedback is welcome then too!!



Posted by: J'Bo

I definately saw white rice on the shopping list, believe me i read it twice. I almost did a dance, ok i did do a jig.
Yes, it has been very hard to get back into eating properly hence the meal one only postings. I can eat healthy upuntil meal 3 and then i screw up. Well i know that my bloated tummy has to go down soon, and that i wont repair my muscles if i dont eat properly, so i am smartening up.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo
I definately saw white rice on the shopping list, believe me i read it twice..

WHERE??????


yams
long grain brown rice
old fashioned oats
steel cut oats


It is in the "Bulking Program"

DP



Posted by: Leslie

Hey JBo! I know what you mean about getting back on track. But today is only the first day back for me and my body actually feels like its telling me it is happy to be eatting the 6 meals again. Its very strange! As for the white rice jig- you are too funny You must have been dreaming- I highly doubt DPW8 would say eat white rice or anything white for that matter*sweetnlow DP*

Have you ever tried MEDIUM grain brown rice? Its the best- but hard to find in the stores. Usually Chinese gourmet restuarants serve it. It is a shorter and thicker grain of rice. It has an awesome texture to it.

Looking forward to watching you pack on the muscle girl!



Posted by: w8lifter

white rice! As if!



Posted by: nikegurl

sorry to spoil your fun J'Bo......



Posted by: J'Bo

OK for a second ther i thought i was going nuts. The shopping list does not say white rice on it, sorry. BUT the bulking diet does, so white rice here i come baby.



Posted by: Leslie

Damn I wish I was bulking! Hey Wait a sec, I think I am...I am not allowed white rice...I detect favoritism



Posted by: w8lifter

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo
OK for a second ther i thought i was going nuts. The shopping list does not say white rice on it, sorry. BUT the bulking diet does, so white rice here i cum baby.

J'bo!

NO WHITE RICE!!!!!!!!!!

Get over it girl! DPw8 does not believe in white rice!

The bulking diet did say white rice...but I've taken it out, it should not have been there!

NO WHITE RICE!!!!!!!!!!





Posted by: Dr. Pain

An explanation, and w8 is right....that is an old copy...personally designed for a person with AN EXTREMELY FAST METABOLISM!

Brown is so much better, sorry that I confused, I don't do it often!


DP



Posted by: J'Bo

Damn Leslie i am going to kick your bottom, look what you did. They actually removed it from the list.

Oh well, what about basmati?



Posted by: J'Bo

Ok i have really been slacking off on posting my information, as of now it will be better. This is my training info from last night.

Back and Biceps

Wide grip chins: 5, 5, 4
Seated cable rows: 12x50lbs, 10x60lbs, 8x70lbs (i was showing off cause i went to a new gym with a friend of mine, and i am paying for it today)
Cable pushdowns: 12x40lbs, 10x40lbs, 8x50lbs (couldn't do t-bar rows cause they did not have the machine at this gym, damn haha)

Cable curls:Set one:10x30lbs, 10x20lbs, 10x10lbs Set two: 10x30lbs, 10x20lbs, 10x10lbs Set three: 10x40lbs, 10x30lbs, 10x20lbs (ouch! i was showing off again, man i love bis)
Incline hammer curls: 10x10lbs, 10x10lbs, 10x10lbs (They kicked us out of the gym after this)

Feeling good today, bis aren't sore like i thought they would be. Geuss i still have to go harder. Back is quite sore though.

Note to self: Post measurements tommorrow (october 2001,april 2002, now, june 2003)



Posted by: Leslie

Its about time you started logging again
Nothing wrong with showing off



Posted by: J'Bo

I know i am starting to get back into it.



Posted by: tgkfour1

J Bo' i don't know if basmati is approved by DPw8, but I saw an article where King Kamali advocated it.

Just don't build to 245 and shredded on it like he is..... or like this:
http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/sh...&threadid=7728


It is kind of a white rice, though. Good Luck getting it in there



Posted by: Jodi

Brown Basmati is fine and very yummy.



Posted by: naturaltan

hey j'bo ... how are things? thought I would drop in and say hello to ya!



Posted by: Pitboss

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo
Cable curls:Set one:10x30lbs, 10x20lbs, 10x10lbs Set two: 10x30lbs, 10x20lbs, 10x10lbs Set three: 10x40lbs, 10x30lbs, 10x20lbs (ouch! i was showing off again, man i love bis)
Incline hammer curls: 10x10lbs, 10x10lbs, 10x10lbs (They kicked us out of the gym after this)

Feeling good today, bis aren't sore like i thought they would be. Geuss i still have to go harder. Back is quite sore though.
... yes you do!! You can't expect to be sore or even worked if you are doing each set to 10 reps, even when increasing the w8. Each set should end with you struggling on the last rep.

Of course now I realized you were doing dropped sets on all three exercises. Still think you should have staretd with more wieght.. struggle on the last 2 reps. When you drop you may or may not be able to get as many reps with lighter weight.. depending on how hard you go at it and how long or short a rest period.

Quote:
Squats: 5x50lbs, 5x70lbs, 5x80lbs, 5x90lbs, 5x100lbs (i geuss i under estimated what i could actually lift). I will start at 80lbs next time
I knwo your hamstring was a little tender so can't really get on you abotu your leg workout.

But using the above.. especially for legs. Just keep on repping. Some people benefit more from light w8 more reps vs heavy. I'm not saying do 50 reps with that 50lbs.. but if you got to 15 and knew it's really, really light you could have jumped right to 80lbs for 10 reps or so.

But again it's the importance of shocking the body to make it adapt and grow. If you have a partner you can work out with take advantage of forced reps.... If not just push until you can't push anymore..

Can't wait to see the end results!!



Posted by: J'Bo

Ok so i talked to PB today and told him how i thought that my chest workout sucked and that i never get sore. Well i think i spoke too soon, its 1am and my chest is soo tight. PB your laughing right. My workout was ok today, i went really hard on my tris, but still seem to not be able to go as heavy as i want for chest. It is hard trainig chest without a partener, so i may switch to DB's as PB suggested. As for today though, this is what my training looked like.


Chest and Triceps

Flat Bench Press: 12x30lbs, 10x40lbs, 8x40lbs (man i seem like a weakling, arent these weights low?)
Incline Flyes: 12x10lbs, 10x12lbs, 8x12lbs
Cable Cross Overs: 12x30lbs, 10x30lbs, 8x30lbs
Pullovers: 12x20lbs, 10x25lbs, 8x25lbs (the 25ers are too heavy i think cause i have to work really hard to not arch my back, any suggestions on what to do?)

Triset:
Rope Pulldowns: 15x30lbs, 10x40lbs, 8x40lbs
Lying Overhead Extensions (with ez bar): 10x10lbs, 8x10lbs, 7x10lbs (these weights do not include the weight of the bar)
Dips (done with 2 benches): 5, 6, 4

Cant wait til Sunday for Shoulders. I may have to adjust my training though, cause i cant have sore shoulders for gymnastics on Mondays and then train legs on Monday too i may be too sore to move on Tuesdays. Will give it some thought. Anyone have any ideas on how to arrange my split better? I would really appreciate it.



Posted by: Robboe

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo

That Chicken daddy guy sure gets riled up hey!
What do you mean?



Is that you in your avatar?



Posted by: Robboe

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo
Flat Bench Press: 12x30lbs, 10x40lbs, 8x40lbs Incline Flyes: 12x10lbs, 10x12lbs, 8x12lbs
Cable Cross Overs: 12x30lbs, 10x30lbs, 8x30lbs
Pullovers: 12x20lbs, 10x25lbs, 8x25lbs
Triset:
Rope Pulldowns: 15x30lbs, 10x40lbs, 8x40lbs
Lying Overhead Extensions (with ez bar): 10x10lbs, 8x10lbs, 7x10lbs (these weights do not include the weight of the bar)
Dips (done with 2 benches): 5, 6, 4
How many of these are "work sets"?


Quote:
(man i seem like a weakling, arent these weights low?)
Who cares, as long as they are improving.

Quote:
(the 25ers are too heavy i think cause i have to work really hard to not arch my back, any suggestions on what to do?)
Yeah, drop them - they're primarily a back exercise.



Posted by: w8lifter

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo

Chest and Triceps

Flat Bench Press: 12x30lbs, 10x40lbs, 8x40lbs
Is this DB or BB?



Posted by: Pitboss

Quote:
Originally posted by w8lifter


Is this DB or BB?
Ditto there. Also if you still aren't happy with your current chest workout consider goingwith 2 compound movements like flat bench and incline bench. Db's would be my suggestion still. Then concentration movements like flys, cable work, pec deck, etc. One or two of these exercises. Keep the total of working (non-warmup) sets to 9-12. If you can add dips instead of one of the other movements.

Just an idea



Posted by: kuso



In regards to you chest workout, I agree with TCD....I`d get rid of the pullovers...............and as you seem to be concerned about you shoulders too, I would consider adding an incline press....DB or BB.







Posted by: joecamp4

J'bo

Just checking in to say hello and to see how you're doing today...

Joe



Posted by: buff_tat2d_chic

Good morning, J'Bo. Thought I would drop in and say hi..."hi"



Posted by: J'Bo

Well i havent been to my own journal in a long time. I have been taking the past week off because my thumb is really bad and i feel run down.

TCD: What do you mean by how many of those are work sets?
I will take the pullovers out, thanks. Yes that is me in my avatar. You gonna dis my legs? I know they need work.

W8: They are barbells, pathetic hey?

PB: I think i will add in incline flyes instead of pullovers, thanks. Switching to DB's for bench press so i can push harder.

Joe and NB: Hello.

I am going to change my routine, cause i am not happy with it.

Changes to follow.



Posted by: nikegurl

Hey Lady - Hope you feel better quick. We could be twins this week - my thumb is tweaked and I'm feeling really run down too!

I did something to mine in the gym like 3 weeks ago and it's still nagging and hurting. Nothing too terrible (hope yours isn't) but it's getting on my nerves b/c it's been too long and I don't even know what I did to it.

I'd been neglecting my multi-vitamin so I'm going to be sure not to miss days and catch up on some much needed rest.

Hope you feel better soon?

I gotta ask....left thumb or right? Mine's left.



Posted by: nikegurl

oh! nearly forgot. my chest development improved a LOT when i switched to dbs. it's been a long time since i've benched with the bar b/c for me, the dbs are much much more effective.

hope you find the same thing true for you when you switch!



Posted by: J'Bo

Mines left too.
I was playing rough with the boys and showing off again.
Caught the football the wrong way and tore all my muscles in my thumb. Doc says i shouldnt do anything for a while. I say screw that. I want to go back to the gym tommorrow but i dont know if i can. I think the lack of energy may have something to do with the donuts i have been eating. Well i am serious about next week, its back to normal soon. I am begining to wonder what is normal now though. Still sitting at 15% though, i dont know how that happens. I am sad because i miss my bf terribely so that doesnt help the crap food eating. TTYS.



Posted by: EarWax

Yo J'Bo ouch! You sound like my sister--she had to play football with two brothers. Hope your thumb gets better! You can still do legs without your thumb... and maybe some back exercises using a machine and lats without your thumb... etc.

If you want, I can take some swiss chard and wrap it up like a donut. That might be acceptable... hmmm maybe not.



Posted by: J'Bo

Wrap it around my thumb? Swiss Chard thumb?



Posted by: EarWax

Nah, hehe... I meant make you eat swiss chard donuts instead of powdered/glazed ones heh. Hey I can see a new franchise now... Earwax's healthy donuts... watch all the cops come runnin!



Posted by: nikegurl

hi J'Bo. hope your thumb heals quickly. i'm learning that i'm really driven by habit - bad or good. when i'm on a roll with eating properly it stops being hard. i just don't cheat - period. it's like it becomes a given. BUT when i do cheat it all falls apart. one slip becomes two and then it becomes a few weeks of cheats (bread for me). it's hard to switch back into "no cheat. eat right" mode.

i think i've learned that for me a cheat isn't good. it starts a bad pattern that's much harder for me to get out of then it is to just never stray to begin with. i know people can have a cheat meal etc. but it seems like i'm not one of them. it's been so hard to get back into the proper eating. i'm too all or nothing but i've always been that way.

when's your man coming home?



Posted by: J'Bo

He isnt coming home til Monday the 29th of July.



Posted by: EarWax

awwww.... but since you will be celebrating July 29th, did you also know that July 29, 1997 fossilized life forms in the Murchison meteorite were officially declared by Richard B. Hoover? So remember J'Bo, while you are celebrating your honey coming home, little space alien fossils are also floating in space watching what you are doing.



Posted by: J'Bo

Your messed up boy, how dare you put that it in my journal.



Posted by: Robboe

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo
TCD: What do you mean by how many of those are work sets?
How many are warm-ups and how many are your "proper" sets?

Just seems like a lot of volume, maybe.

Quote:
You gonna dis my legs?
No.



Posted by: J'Bo

Monday: Chest and Triceps
Flat DB Bench Press: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Cable Cross Overs: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Incline Flyes: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Rope Pulldowns: 3 drop sets of failure
Skull Crusher: 3 sets of failure
Wheel Barrow: 3 sets of 12,10,8

Tuesday: Rest

Wednesday:Shoulders
Military Press (machine): 4 sets of 10,8,6,5 reps going up the rack
Lateral Raises: First Set: 8lbs, 10lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs, 8lbs (4 reps each weight). Second Set: 8lbs, 10lbs, 12lbs, 15lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs, 8lbs (3 reps each weight). Third Set: 10lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs (3 reps each weight). Fourth Set: 15lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs, 8lbs, 5lbs, 3lbs (til failure).
Bent Over Rows: 3 sets of 12,10, 8, 6 reps going up the rack.

Thursday:Rest

Friday:Back and Biceps
Wide Grip Chins: 3 sets til failure
Seated Cable Rows: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Bent Over Cable Rows: 2 sets of 8-10 reps
Cable Curls: 3 sets of drop down reps til failure
Incline hammers: 2 sets of 10,8 reps
Ez-Bar Curls: 2 sets of 10,8 reps

Saturday:Rest

Sunday:Legs
Machine Squats: 5 sets of 3-5 reps (5 sec lower and 5 secs up)
Wide Grip Deadlifts on Platform: 5 sets of 3-5 reps (same tempo)
Lying Leg Curls: 5 sets of 4 reps (8 sec up and 1 sec lower)
Standing Calf Raises: 3 sets of 8-10 reps (2 sec up, 2 sec pause, and 1 sec lower)



Posted by: J'Bo

Today i am back to the real world!

I have realized that for me to stay motivated i needed some more defined goals and deadlines.
So here they are:
*Photo shoot set for September
*Starting to teach a fitness strength class in September
*Still my 10-13lbs of solid muscle by next June.

This should keep me on track for a while. Hey its been 2 days sans donut, you guys proud?

Well its out of sugarville and into normalville.

Daily Journal:
Well i am still 15% and not gaining any weight which is amazing to me considering my 30 some odd days of cheating. Its time to build some muscles though, so the junk food is saved for Wednesday's and one cheat food on Sunday.

Gotta go make some food and hit the gym. I think my first meal has to be a shake cause i am outta eggs. The whole meal doesnt sit too well when i do a leg workout right after anyways.

More later!



Posted by: Leslie

Glad to see you back in Normalville(I was jealous of all those donuts!) LOL I think you will do well with your fitness classes. Good luck to you! It is time for a new avatar...Perhaps you can call yourself Jambuster and have a pic taken with the donut too!
Will be checkin in on ya...



Posted by: J'Bo

Good idea for an avatar.
Maybe me and then Robins Donut sign.
LOL.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo

. Hey its been 2 days sans donut, you guys proud?

you won't last...they're calling you...Here Donut Queen...here Donut Queen...

so the junk food is saved for Wednesday's and one cheat food on Sunday.

WTF?

Junk on Wednesday...and Cheat on Sunday...that's like wasting 4 days a week.....one day to get back were you would have been for each day you strayed!




DP



Posted by: J'Bo

OK well i will try to handle just one day a week then.
Does the training routine look ok to you DP?



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo
Monday: Chest and Triceps
Flat DB Bench Press: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Cable Cross Overs: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Incline Flyes: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Rope Pulldowns: 3 drop sets of failure
Skull Crusher: 3 sets of failure
Wheel Barrow: 3 sets of 12,10,8

Would like to see some incline DB presses and Swiss ball flyes alternated every other week for your presses and flyes. Chest w/bis...not tris!

Tuesday: Rest

Wednesday:Shoulders
Military Press (machine): 4 sets of 10,8,6,5 reps going up the rack
Lateral Raises: First Set: 8lbs, 10lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs, 8lbs (4 reps each weight). Second Set: 8lbs, 10lbs, 12lbs, 15lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs, 8lbs (3 reps each weight). Third Set: 10lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs (3 reps each weight). Fourth Set: 15lbs, 12lbs, 10lbs, 8lbs, 5lbs, 3lbs (til failure).
Bent Over Rows: 3 sets of 12,10, 8, 6 reps going up the rack.

Alternate DB or Arnold presses, swiss ball presses, and cables for the DB raises each week...add a front raise, plate or cable

Thursday:Rest

Friday:Back and Biceps
Wide Grip Chins: 3 sets til failure
Seated Cable Rows: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Bent Over Cable Rows: 2 sets of 8-10 reps
Cable Curls: 3 sets of drop down reps til failure
Incline hammers: 2 sets of 10,8 reps
Ez-Bar Curls: 2 sets of 10,8 reps

looks good...back and tris here..not bis, add hypers or good mornings

Saturday:Rest




Sunday:Legs
Machine Squats: 5 sets of 3-5 reps (5 sec lower and 5 secs up)
Wide Grip Deadlifts on Platform: 5 sets of 3-5 reps (same tempo)
Lying Leg Curls: 5 sets of 4 reps (8 sec up and 1 sec lower)
Standing Calf Raises: 3 sets of 8-10 reps (2 sec up, 2 sec pause, and 1 sec lower)

Alternate front squats and back squats too...use higher reps pyramid down, 10, 8, 6, 5...try Harrop leg curls and sitting every so often

DP



Posted by: EarWax

Swiss ball... tee hee... anyway, good for you J'Bo! You go get'em girl!



Posted by: lina

How's the second day going without donut? Hey, what happened to you last night... you didn't even say good-bye!!! Had to dash to the video store?



Posted by: Miss LeDix

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo
Flat DB Bench Press: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Cable Cross Overs: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Incline Flyes: 3 sets of 12,10,8 reps
Cable Curls: 3 sets of drop down reps til failure
Incline hammers: 2 sets of 10,8 reps
Ez-Bar Curls: 2 sets of 10,8 reps
J'Bo...is it okay if I copy you? For this week at least? I've been doing chest and back on Monday's FOREVER...it's getting very boring! So, I'm going to try the J'Bo version of a chest and bicep workout tomorrow. Kay?

Anyway...I hate to use any machines at all. I'm too short for most of them (or don't know how to adjust them) and they just annoy me in general. So...can you recommend a third chest exercise besides cable cross overs (which I don't even know what that is!)? Same thing for cable curls..would plain old db curls be okay in place of that? When you do exercises such as curls and hammers, do you lift both arms at one or alternate one arm at a time?

Thanks in advance chickie! And even though I've been pb-free for several weeks now..I feel your (donut) pain. I've been spending more time than usual at my parent's house lately (because my sister, who lives in Boca Raton, is visiting) and damn those apple fig newtons!!



Posted by: J'Bo

Ok where do i start?

DP:
-What are swiss ball flyes? And i do triceps with chest because my back is strong and my bis are weak, and my chest is weak and my triceps are strong so i thought this would even them out. No?
-What are swiss ball raises? And i switch the military presses to arnolds and/or DB presses? What kind of set/reps on the front raises? I dont know if i could possibly add anymore shoulder sets after this routine i feel like already.
-What are good mornings? I hate hypers, do i have too? LOL.
-I cant do free weighted squats cause i fall over, hehehe. I can switch hack squats and machine squats, is that ok?
-What the heck are harrops? I think i used to wear those in high school, they are those pants with the elastic on the ankles right?
-I am using that Jason Lamond leg routine from W8's website, i am on phase 2 right now.
Thanks for all your comments DP, i really appreciate it.

EarWax:
Once i know what a swiss ball is, i will comment on what your talkin about mr.

Lina:
Second day w/o a donut is pretty good, i worked out today so i know a donut wont help me repair my already sore legs. Sure would be good though. Teehee. Sorry about last night, a storm came up and cut the power out. Havent had time to hit the movie store yet, i have kept myself busy today so far so i dont notice it yet. LOL.

Miss LeDix: Of course you can copy me! I like doing my bis with my chest because i find that my arms respond better. I dont like using machines either but i dont have a choice cause no girl will train with me. The guys just get annoyed cause i lift too light and we end up constantly loading and unloading. I feel safer with the machines. I would do a pec dec instead of the cable cross overs, but you may want to ask someone to teach you them cause they are great. The cable cross overs are a little harder to get the proper form down though, but once you do your chest stris come out nicely. I do cable curls cause it gives you a constant pulling motion and i can burn nicely. Try them out but i like to do overhead cables once in a while too. Try: Dumbbell curls, Incline hammers, and concentration curls or preachers. I do alternate arms when i do any hammer movements, but i do my DB curls with both together, but i usually use an easy bar instead.
Miss LeDix you live in Florida? Did you check out my Florida residents i need help thread? I love to anwser questions so keep em coming. Good luck, let me know how the workout goes.

I have good news everyone, i think i am going to make another donut free day. I have done really good today. Check out my next post.



Posted by: Miss LeDix

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo


Miss LeDix: Of course you can copy me! I like doing my bis with my chest because i find that my arms respond better. I dont like using machines either but i dont have a choice cause no girl will train with me. The guys just get annoyed cause i lift too light and we end up constantly loading and unloading. I feel safer with the machines. I would do a pec dec instead of the cable cross overs, but you may want to ask someone to teach you them cause they are great. The cable cross overs are a little harder to get the proper form down though, but once you do your chest stris come out nicely. I do cable curls cause it gives you a constant pulling motion and i can burn nicely. Try them out but i like to do overhead cables once in a while too. Try: Dumbbell curls, Incline hammers, and concentration curls or preachers. I do alternate arms when i do any hammer movements, but i do my DB curls with both together, but i usually use an easy bar instead.
Miss LeDix you live in Florida? Did you check out my Florida residents i need help thread? My bf is down in Boca right now visitng his mom and checking the place out. We want to move to Florida. Maybe i can teach you cable cross overs. LOL. I love to anwser questions so keep em coming. Good luck, let me know how the workout goes.
I do not live in Florida, I live in Georgia. I saw your Florida thread and that is why I mentioned my sister being from Boca.

Okay...how's this for tomorrow then:

***what should I do first? Chest or biceps?***

Concentration Curls (with a db, one arm at a time, with one elbow resting on the knee, sort of sitting?)
Incline Hammer Curls (one arm at a time?)
BB Curls (with an EZ bar, if I can find one that I can actually lift)

Incline Chest Press (with db's)
Pec Dec machine (which is like flye's, right?)
Flat Chest Press (with a bb?)

Three sets each exercise, increasing wieght while decreasing reps? Yes? No?

Thanks for your help!

And you go girl! with the donuts. I was you-know-where tonight and I had a few bites of Entammen's coffee cake.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Quote:
Originally posted by J'Bo
Ok where do i start?

OH Boy


DP:
-What are swiss ball flyes?

Flyes done lying back, hips down...on a ball



This position:








And i do triceps with chest because my back is strong and my bis are weak, and my chest is weak and my triceps are strong so i thought this would even them out. No?


No, because you can get a better W/O when training for hypertrophy by not pre-exhausting tris from doing chest and bis from doing back



-What are swiss ball raises?


I said ball presses, NOT rasies....and it is a sitting shoulder press from the ball!





And i switch the military presses to arnolds and/or DB presses?


Yes, alternating weekly

What kind of set/reps on the front raises? I dont know if i could possibly add anymore shoulder sets after this routine i feel like already.



Just 3 sets....you can eliminate...rears that week and alterante if you want.....any rep scheme you want....12, 10 , 8....pyramiding the w8 up will work well




-What are good mornings?
I hate hypers, do i have too?


either or..., or rack pulls...see:


http://www.exrx.net/Lists/ExList/Wai...#anchor1945210



LOL.
-I cant do free weighted squats cause i fall over, hehehe. I can switch hack squats and machine squats, is that ok?

Learn "how to squat".....odds are your holding the bar to high on the back, foot placement is too narrow, and your not looking up...You should be able to "front squat"...have a competent trainer show you...hacks are always good






-What the heck are harrops?


Harrop Curls are done on your knees on a mat with a partner behind you holding or feet, or on a decline bench with your feet hooked….keeping your body straight from the knees up, slowly lower yourself to the ground or bench, and push yourself back up to the start position, keeping your body straight (don’t lead with your glutes).



I think i used to wear those in high school, they are those pants with the elastic on the ankles right?
-I am using that Jason Lamond leg routine from W8's website, i am on phase 2 right now.
Thanks for all your comments DP, i really appreciate it.

DP...tired now



Posted by: J'Bo

***what should I do first? Chest or biceps?***
I would definately do chest first

Concentration Curls (with a db, one arm at a time, with one elbow resting on the knee, sort of sitting?)
With a DB, one arm at a time, with one arm on knee yes

Incline Hammer Curls (one arm at a time?)
Yes

BB Curls (with an EZ bar, if I can find one that I can actually lift)
I use a 10 on either side

Incline Chest Press (with db's)
Yes to work those stabilizers

Pec Dec machine (which is like flye's, right?)
Yes some call them butterflyes i think

Flat Chest Press (with a bb?)
Easier to do with DB's cause you can lift more without dropping it on your chest

Three sets each exercise, increasing wieght while decreasing reps?
Yes thats what i would do

Thanks for your help!

Thank you beauty!



Posted by: J'Bo

Well that ball sure looks like fun. I cant wait to try it tommorrow. I will switch to chest and bis.

More ball? Like it, i always like something different.

Well back extentions it is, cause those good mornings look hard. Ill learn them later on though.

Thanks alot for your suggestions DP, i will be sure to change up my routine to include these exercises.



Posted by: Dr. Pain

Your welcome J'Bo! Have a ball

DP



Posted by: J'Bo

Your so cheesy.
LMAO



Posted by: Dr. Pain

And I guess you ooze Jam?


DP



Posted by: J'Bo

Actually if you squeeze me hard enough i will ozze jam from my ears.

So here is the training outline from today, please feel free to comment.


Legs:
Machine Squats: 5x70lbs, 5x90lbs, 5x90lbs, 5x90lbs, 5x90lbs
Deadlifts on Platform: 7x40lbs, 8x50lbs, 7x60lbs, 7x70lbs, 5x70lbs
Lying Leg Raises: 4x30lbs, 4x40lbs, 4x30lbs, 4x30lbs
Rotary Calfs: 8x40lbs, 5x50lbs, 8x40lbs, 8x40lbs

Calfs were a sucky workout, but the rest of the legs went really well. I will be sure to switch my legs up next week.

Note To Self: Next weeks leg routine
Hack Squats
Deadlifts
Standing Leg Raises
Seated Calf Rasies



Posted by: buff_tat2d_chic

Good morning J'Bo Just catch'in up on your diary. Have a great day!



Posted by: J'Bo

Training

Chest and Biceps:
Flat DB Bench Press: 12x15lbs, 10x15lbs, 8x20lbs
Pec Dec: 12x30lbs, 10x30lbs, 8x30lbs
Swiss Ball Flyes (I almost died): 12x10lbs, 10x10lbs, 8x10lbs

Cable Curls: Drop sets: Set one:12x40lbs-5x30lbs-5x20lbs
Set two: 8x40lbs, 4x30lbs, 4x20lbs
Set three: 8x40lbs, 4x30lbs, 4x20lbs
Incline Hammers: 10x10lbs, 8x10lbs
Ez Bar Curls: 10x20lbs, 8x30lbs

All i have to say is OVERTRAINING. That was one tough day, glad tommorrow is a day off. Cause i wont be able to walk.




Posted by: EarWax

Tee Hee... Swiss ball...



Posted by: J'Bo

Ok Ear man i now know what you were laughing about when DP told me to do swiss ball flyes. What the hell and who the heck invented those? They are from hell i think. I am going to pay severely tommorrow, considering i just came back from gymnastics and guess what are focus was today? Yes thats right chest work, great i may not be able to type for a few days.



Posted by: Jodi

Jbo - I did those for swiss ball dbell flys for the first time myself today. I loved them cuz I got a better range of motion with the fly. They were awkward at first but I liked them. Im sure I'll be feeling it tomorrow as well.



Posted by: J'Bo

Feeling them? I cant feel my arms right now. What am i going to do? Drugs someone please!!!! I guess now would be a good time to take some glutamine!



Posted by: EarWax

Hey J_Bo here is a link to the swiss ball arm workout... it's kinda funny

http://testosterone.net/html/16swiss.html

This is the best I could find on the swiss ball history... lol...

What’s going on with those big plastic balls that everyone’s bouncing around on in the gym? They look like playground equipment for adults! Those big plastic balls are known as exercise balls (also known as Stability Balls or Swiss Balls). Originally invented by a really smart Swiss guy to help his Cerebral Palsy patients develop balance and coordination, it was later discovered that most people (even those who exercised regularly) had weak stability muscles (or core muscles) and could benefit from exercising with an exercise ball.



Posted by: EarWax

And the evermore helpful, "The Partially True History of the Doughnut"

http://www.elliskaiser.com/doughnuts/history.html

And the donut songs:

http://agora.rdrop.com/users/allent/html/do_songs.html



Posted by: J'Bo

LMAO over and over.
Where in heavens name did you find this stuff?

First of all i am so excited to see that even the inventor of these exercises suffered the next day. Boy i cant wait!

Donut history hey? I NEED to find a way to put that donut song here. It was the most hilarious thing i have ever heard.



Posted by: Hammerlynn

How is the donut challenge coming?



Posted by: EarWax

hehe, glad you liked it J_Bo Just trying to help you through your donut crisis through the miracles of education.



Posted by: J'Bo

Well to be completely honest i busted yesterday.
I did not have one today though.



Posted by: EarWax

Doh, J'Bo, well if ya want a donut I say go for it, life is too short...
The swiss ball will get it's revenge on you hehe.



Posted by: Rissole

Try churro's J'Babe (is that what you call straight donuts?)
they might break the addiction by breaking the roundness of the donut factor
Are you inclined to frosted or cinnamon.... mmmm i'm heading down the shop



Posted by: J'Bo

Haha very funny people.



Posted by: EarWax

Don't you know that other kids are starving in Japan, so eat it... duh dun.... just eat it...



Posted by: kuso

Kids are starving in Japan? Don`t think so.......but eat it anyway J.....if you like I can help you



Posted by: J'Bo

I dont want one you nim rods.
No kids are starving in Ethopia EW not Japan.



Posted by: kuso

LMAO....I haven`t been called a nim rod since elementary school



Posted by: EarWax

heh... just a little song... weird al yankovic... remember guys...? What kind of donuts does Homer Simpson eat?


Doh-Nuts! LOL... hey I'm a regular Seinfeld!



Posted by: J'Bo

Ok you guys made me breakdown. Thanks alot.
All this talk about donuts and i am heading to the coffee shop now. Its all your fault.



Posted by: EarWax

oh nooooooooooo what have we done!! noooooooooooooo!



Posted by: J'Bo

Actually i went upstairs to go get in the car and get some donuts, and instead i made a chicken salad. Whats that all about?



Posted by: Hammerlynn

Come on J'Bo! You can do this girl! Is there something else sweet that would serve the same purpose? Maybe SF pudding or something?

I'm drawing at straws though but I understand where you are coming from!





Posted by: Rissole

stop hasslin' guys she's tryin to be strong. You should be tryin to help her!! kiss kiss suck suck hows that baby??
Kuso went to elementary school Bwwaahahaahhaaa Sure right



Posted by: J'Bo

Well the answer to what may take my donut cravings away= dont live beside a donut shop.

So i made it, 2 days and no donuts.



Posted by: Rissole

I give good foot massage too, oh great queen of mine!!
Your royal wippin boy is at your command



Posted by: J'Bo

Ohhh i need a massage bad.



Posted by: david

J'Bo,

I took the time to read this finally and I see is Donut talk again?!?!?! Fug the Donuts!

You look great girl! Keep it up!



Posted by: naturaltan

Mornin JBo!!



Posted by: w8lifter

This is so not right! J'bo..take control of YOUR journal girl! If there is any more donut talk, except for your reports on NOT having any...then I say you kick all their asses out! Ya'll are bad!!!!!!!!



Posted by: EarWax

I think I have to agree with w8, I was looking through the journal and had a hard time finding any exercise descriptions heh... I will sit in the corner and behave



Posted by: Rissole

Yeah YEAH !!
I wanna see some more pics J'Babe put in some more pics



Posted by: david

YEah Earwax! LOL!!



Posted by: Scream'n

Hey darling - How often are you checking for change in BF and Muscle Mass? How many more Calories do you consume now compared to when you are cutting?

I am trying to cut right now (winging it). I hope not too severely though, losing muscle is a scary thought after all the hard work (and Ultimate Orange)!!! Way too much Sream'n too risk!



Posted by: Hammerlynn

Hey Scream'n! There is a men's cutting diet that DP has posted in the nutrition section.

I am following the women's and loving it!

Hi J'Bo! How are you doing today girl?



Posted by: J'Bo

Hammer= I am doing good today. Had a great workout.

Pee man= I have a photo shot in Sept. so i will post pics then

Scream'n= I check for BF changes every second day on my home scale. Yes i know you all think it isnt that accurate, but it does measure my changes.

W8= I completely agree with you, that is why i made the donut shrine because it seems as though i am not the only person that wants to chat about donuts.

So stop the donut talk in here please! I will too.

Shoulders:
Arnold Press: Set one: 10x8lbs. 8x10lbs, 6x12lbs, 5x12lbs
Sets two and three the same.

DB Deltoid Raises: Set one: 4x8, 4x10, 4x12, 4x10, 4x8lbs
Set two: 3x8, 3x10, 3x12, 3x15, 3x12, 3x10, 3x8lbs
Set three: 6x15, 4x12, 4x10, 4x8, 4x5, 4x3lbs

Alternate DB Front Raises: 10x8, 8x10, 6x10lbs
Shoulder Shrugs: 12x20, 10x25, 10x30lbs

I pushed really hard today and felt some good burns (and a few tears). After i worked out i worked in the garden for 5 hours, just to relax a bit.

Only 3.5 more days and my honey comes home! i cant wait to see him.



Posted by: Rissole





Posted by: J'Bo

I want to thank everyone on here for providing me with all the training support and diet questions i have ever had. You have all taught me to be the best i can be and have given me courage to compete.

Team DPW8= A special thanks to you for putting up with my whining and my poor dieting skills. I competed and won my last competition because of you. I will always remember you and think very highly of the both of you. I will be looking for you in the mags W8, and DP know that i am going to kick my sugar habit and become a great athlete partly because of the two of you.

K (or Kuso)= I guess i never will get to see a pic of the K, but thats ok. You have been a great help to me and i dont know what else to say other than thank-you. Now you can post all the donut messages you want. LOL.

Nick B= I am sorry i wont be able to train or give you anymore dieting advice. DP and W8 will help you along on your journey to an awesome body. I have faith that you will achieve all your goals and become the "stud of the school". Show them what your made of.

Hammerlyn= My Super woman dieter friend. Thank you for all your kind words and help. I am positive that you will achieve all that you desire, you are a strong and beautiful person. Thanks.

Peetrips= One word of advice, scrap your buddys diet for good and hang with the crew here. You will be on that stage in no time winning those tropheys and being proud of all your hard work. You have made great changes and i know you will continue to work towards your goals. Have a great summer.

Danilee= The girl i love to debate with. I hope that you and your fiance are happy together forever. You are one strong and intelligent beauty, and i admire your strengths.

Leslie= Well i will miss reading your very boring but flawless daily diet reports. Too bad i did not get to see your final pics, i may see them in Oxygen though. Heehee. Thank you for being a friend and lending me support throughout my journals.

Lina= My hot fisty friend. Have a great trip with your family, and enjoy every moment with them. Thanks for making me laugh.

Dero= My furry little canuck! You make me laugh just looking at your avatar. Keep on biking and stiring the mud up. Thanks for making me laugh.

Dino= I hope you and BO soon get to be together, cause love is what counts the most. You will have a butt like Venus one day soon and will be clouding up this forum with pics to show it off. Stay real, stay true.

BO= I forgot to thank-you for the info you sent me, thanks. I will definately use it. Take care of your girl and keep on laughing.

PitBoss= Well i will definately miss you. You have been a friend and one i will always remember, thanks. I hope you and Amanda (and the heirom) keep having fun. Give your sweet little boy a kiss for me. Thanks.

JoeCamp= Hope your feeling better. You got the hang of this and now you are ready to push forward and kick it up a notch. Stay in touch with im and let them know whats going on with you, they can offer tremendous support.

Freeman, Trizzle, and Lorraine= Thanks for all your help with my search for a home in Florida. Your information and opinions really will make moving alot easier.

EarMan= BACON. There i said it, you proud? I cant say i have ever used the term LMAO more then when i am talking with you. You have a gift to make people laugh, thanks for being you. I will miss our donut shrine, please keep it going in honor of me. LOL. Ummm jam busters.

Dave= Well i saved you for last because although i havent known you as long as anyone here i have gotten to know you the most. Know that this is really hard for me, but that it is something i must do. * wiping eyes*. You deserve the world and should never accept less. Tell bunny i say hello and that i am sorry i never got to meet her. *wipe eyes*. Dave i really enjoyed our talks and i cannot thank you enough for all your help. I will always think of you as a friend. I am sorry i could not keep my promises of keeping in touch and maikng you perogies. Thank you for cheering me up when i was down. Take care of yourself i wish nothing but the best for you, just be careful what you choose to do.

Once again thank you everyone. This will be my last post. Bye.



Posted by: J'Bo

To everyone else that wasnt mentioned above i thank-you.



Posted by: Rissole

Just don't go forever J'Babe!!
The internet can be accesed from all over the world you know!
I even posted a pic of my ass (just for you lol )
All the best, it was great getting to know you and yes i will take your advise. Thankyou for thinking of me.




Posted by: Dr. Pain

WTF???? J'Bo this sounds like a contemplated DONUT suicide.....

I mean WTF...get back here NOW. Stop this nonsense.


DP



Posted by: EarWax

Awww, ok J'Bo, but never say last cause that will make me sad. I wonder what happenned? Did I forget my deoderant yesterday? No No... come back J'Bo... I put my deoderant back on...see! sniff sniff



Posted by: w8lifter

WTF?????



Posted by: david

J'Bo,

It's silly but I believe there is a 50% chance you may be reading this. Thank you so much for allowing me into your world! You are one unique individual who will be sorely missed! I won't speak on behalf of anyone here and will allow them to post their own. I wish you the best of luck, a wonderful life and happiness, true happiness. Wait, I take that back! I will speak in groups. A lot of us have been like family to you, brother's and sister's, and you have made a huge impact here and have made us laugh continuosly on end. Like a family, come back whenever you want to, we will always welcome you with open arms. When and if you come back, your thread will be the largest one to respond to, by far!

We love you Sister!

Your loving brother,

David

I'm leaving you guys with a picture of how I percieved J'Bo.



Posted by: EarWax

Ode to J'Bo

She left us in the blink of an eye,
For what, know I? I do not spy,
I think her boyfriend was to blame,
Or fried dough with holes on the window pane.

Donuts with jam, she would often sigh,
Were her only friends, she said not bye,
But we were suprised just the same,
When J'Bo left, we knew her name.

*bow* Def Poets Shop Open... lol



Posted by: Erilaya

J'Bo.. I do not know what spurred this rapid departure although I think I have a clue from the other night in chat.. Sweetie I just wanted to say you are a beautiful young woman with a very bright future.
Please know we are all pulling for you and will always be around whenever you need us..
You are missed already...

All the best to you Darlin'

Be Well

Erilay'a



Posted by: sawheet

Am I missing something, I leave for a month and j bo leaves us??



Posted by: Dero

J,anyway of having an explanation for you to up it and leave like this???
Some people are WORRIED,WONDERING,like
WHY???



Posted by: david

Dero,

I think she's just fine and like she said, she's doing what she has to do to be happier in life.......... this is all I can say. Until she comes back I guess.



Posted by: bigss75

So Dave is this tempoary or forever.


All I have to say to J Bo it was nice meeting you. You are a very colorful person.


From
"The Drunk"



Posted by: david

Even though she thought you were drunk all the time! LOL!

Bigss, unfortunately, it seems like forever however, like the seasons, she may change and come back and we'll be nicer to her about the donut and Bacon thing, won't we?



Posted by: bigss75

First time impressions are a bitch arent they?



Posted by: david

could be I guess



Posted by: Rissole

She didnt leave because of the donut thing did she??



Posted by: david

No peetrips, I don't think it was that! At least I would hope not.



Posted by: Rissole

She was so awesome to me. She encouraged me heaps and kicked me in the ass as well which was great
I miss her heaps!!



Posted by: NickB

wtf....

my eyes are watering, my nose is now stuffy and i hav this wierd lump in my throat...

hm... odd.... havent felt this in a while :\


You'll be missed J'bo.... thank you for all your help and best wishes.



Posted by: david

Believe me, I certainly didn't let any ballons off or order a cake for this occassion, either. I probably wouldn't have even known had it not been for a special person that told me and she knows who she is. *Thank you!*



Posted by: lina

Hey J'Bo sweetie,

I hope you are OK! I think most of us are just worried that by you taking off like that something is wrong! We care for you and just hope that this decision is yours and no one else.... I used to be in a relationship like that and I'd never let someone make me do something that just doesn't feel right again! If in doubt, confused,...go with your gut! I did, and I am glad I did... I may be shooting in the dark here and you may never read this but I have to try...

Take care sweetie! and PLEASE let us know you are OK!



lina



Posted by: david

Thank you Lina for posting this! I couldn't bring myself to say what you said but I'm glad you did! Kuso has some idea that she'll come in as an alias. I hope she does but............... speechless!



Posted by: naturaltan

take care of yourself JBo!

Wish you best in your future endevours.

If you get a chance, stop in and say hello ...

NT



Posted by: joecamp4

J'Bo,
Thanks for all of your help...you have set me on the right track and thanks for being patient with me as I struggled through the learning curves.
Joe



Posted by: nikegurl

I'm totally confused. I was away from the board for a week and now J'Bo is gone? I read the thread but I'm still lost....what happened?



Posted by: Stacey

Nobody really knows girl!! Well ... I think some do and they are not telling.. ya know.. to keep her privacy!



Posted by: Leslie

Everyone(Princess/Nikegurl)

I believe JBo is fine. She has not committed a "donut suicide" and will be carrying on her active fitness lifestyle I am sure. Although I don't know of the exact circumstances, I do know that this was probably not easy for her to do. She is a big girl and made a decison that suited best for her life at this point in time.

I too have a feeling she will be peeking in here, perhaps under another alias, and hope she does so she can see how much she is missed!!



Posted by: Stacey

Leslie! Hey thanks girl!! I am sure she is fine too!! I hope so at least!!
I bet she is checking in her journal as another alias.. although I was not close to her really.. I know she is MISSED BIG TIME!!



Posted by: david

speechless!



Posted by: danilee

What the heck? I don't understand at all...What circumstances would someone have to leave a internet message board if they did'nt want to, besides maybe just not having the time...Who writes a goodbye unless some unsavory stuff has happened...To this I have know clue...I will miss her upfront, to the point talk...Hmmmm still confused here? My only guess would be maybe some jealousy on someones part....Not sure though..Well J'bo if you stop on in here, I will miss you too...email me if you feel comfortable doing so...Maybe it was not us girls that made the circumstances for you to have to go away????
danilee



Posted by: EarWax

Bacon



Posted by: david

C'mon Earwax! that's not funny!



Posted by: butterfly

I think your right Leslie... she left for personal reasons. No major big fight with someone here or anything like that.

I was just getting to her know, too. What a bummer



Posted by: craig777

Quote:
Originally posted by butterfly
I think your right Leslie... she left for personal reasons. No major big fight with someone here or anything like that.

I was just getting to her know, too. What a bummer
Well I will start a fight with her, c'mon J'Bo I dare you to come back and start a fight with me. I bet you are afraid to fight me.

Going to miss you around here.



Posted by: EarWax

Donut



Posted by: Rissole

What he said!! What he said!!



Posted by: david

Ear wax - *yawn* with your bacon and donuts!



Posted by: Rissole

We're just tryin to entice her back for a fight!! Anything to get this girl back!! Come back J'Bo we miss youuuu



Posted by: EarWax

I'm trying to summon the holy J'Bo from the depths of her donut lair. I must concentrate... focus power... and recite the words that will unite the world of IM with its mistress. Let us now gather in a circle and cover ourselves with glaze... then let the sprinkles fall where they may. The time has arisen.



Posted by: Rissole

ROTFLMAO!!



Posted by: david

OK, i thought you were instigating.....



Posted by: Pitboss





Posted by: TriZZle305

Much love



Posted by: Dero

Have a GREAT life...
Miss ya!!!



Posted by: J'Bo

Well no alias, but i did peek in to just read all of the beautiful things you all have written.

Thanks from the bottom of my heart.

I do miss everyone!

I wanted to let you all know that i am happy as hell and doing great. Hope everyone is doing good too.

I know that it was a surprise to all of you that i left so suddenly but i am sorry i had to. I left because i found myself spending way too much time on here and not accomplishing the goals that i have set out for myself. I now am on the right track and find myself heading in a great direction. The reason was not because someone told me to stop im, but because i choose to.

You are all great friends and will remain in my heart.

P.S My donut habit has been solved, i am a donut free woman.
I will log on and post my website address once it is finished.

Have fun everyone, bye!



Posted by: Mudge

I'm glad your back, and I understand what your saying. I'm a message board junkie, and it can seriously cut into your life, so congrats on controlling your "addictions"!



Posted by: david

J'Bo,

I'm so very happy to know that your life is how you want it to be! Your happiness is important! Stay focused and know that I'm proud of you, always! Keep checking in every once in awhile!

Take Care, Sweetie!

David



Posted by: EarWax

Great to hear you are doing well J'Bo! Keep up the good work and listen to your heart cause the heart can never lie and the heart can never eat donuts, directly... it has to go through the stomach first ya see. I'm doing well, though I am still waiting for the planets to align in the correct configuration before I start that juice fast thing. I chickened out a bit, but I will sooner or later.

It takes some discipline to pry oneself away from these boards. As Captain Planet would say, "The choice is yours"

Be well, live well, and don't smell,

EarWaxian the III



Posted by: kuso





Posted by: kuso

Quote:
Originally posted by kuso
Hang on.....no PM or anything?????



Posted by: bigss75

It is nice to see that your happy.

Now since you have kicked your donut habit I think i should kick my drinking completely.



Posted by: bigss75

Quote:
Originally posted by bigss75
Now since you have kicked your donut habit I think i should kick my drinking completely.





Posted by: TriZZle305

you almost got me



Posted by: bigss75

I drink once maybe twice a week but usally when I do i get blasted.



Posted by: bigss75

It is better then living your life in a drunken haze.



Posted by: david

Quote:
Originally posted by bigss75



It's that bad, huh Bigss?

YOU said it!!!



Posted by: david

Quote:
Originally posted by bigss75
I drink once maybe twice a week but usally when I do i get blasted.
Blasted? Like passing out? Or like puking? Or both?



Posted by: bigss75

not passed out. Drink enought top feel it then go to sleep maybe puke. I havent drank for a week now.



Posted by: david

Quote:
Originally posted by bigss75
not passed out. Drink enought top feel it then go to sleep maybe puke. I havent drank for a week now.
Try 6 months!



Posted by: naturaltan

Hey J'Bo ... great to hear things are going well!! Can't wait to see your website!



Posted by: bigss75

Quote:
Originally posted by davidjasondean


Try 6 months!

I will I am for sure not drinking during my cut.



Posted by: david

Quote:
Originally posted by bigss75



I will I am for sure not drinking during my cut.
Don't forget to cut out your candy, prep H as well!



Posted by: EarWax

Donut extreme dancing... it's all the rage!



Posted by: J'Bo

I can't believe that you have turned my diary into a booze can Bigs. Dave you talking about puking on my thread, how dare you.
Heheehe.

Well hello to everyone again.
Hows everyone doing?
I want an update on everyone.
Leslie how did it go? I want all the details.



Posted by: Dero

Well then I'll start...
Hiya J. I'm doing alright,busy at work butt alright,yes biking season is over so...Hmmmmm,jam buster,sounds good butt I won't so easy to put on the weight now that I'm NOT biking!!!
Have you talked to your sister lately?
Good to see things are going really well for you.
Chat to ya later.



Posted by: bigss75

I havent been drinking since the post in aug. I am proud not because of self control but i am too busy.



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