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Just how bad are cigarettes?


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Posted by: soxmuscle

I have never had a sober cigarette in my life and I don't plan to. Infact, I still hold my breath when I walk by people who are smoking because I just can't stand the smell... Unless I'm drunk.

With that said, I probably have on average about 2-3 cigarettes per week in a social setting.

I started doing this last year after my then most recent arrest because it gave me 10 minutes to chill out, rethink my game plan for the night, collect my thoughts, etc. because before that I was just out of control drinking non-stop.

I don't think it's necessarily become a problem, but is this something I should be worried about down the road?

I mean, there are people in this world who smoke multiple packs per day and live completely healthy lives, can 2-3 per week really hurt me that much?


Posted by: HialeahChico305

spark that blunt sox. screws cigs


Posted by: min0 lee

It starts with 2...then 3......then 10...then a pack.....it's the most addictive habit I ever had.


Posted by: NordicNacho

i've quit 100's of times


Posted by: KelJu

I started smoking two packs a day to deal with anxiety. After years of smoking it occurred to me that I have no less anxiety after a cigarette now than I had years ago before ever smoking.

Cigarettes destroyed my cardiovascular system. They cost me $1,600 a year. They made my car, cloths, and breath smell bad. I also have burn marks in my car. Going without a cigarette for more than 3 hours is hell! Quiting cigarettes was the hardest fucking thing I ever did. Now consider that while I explain that I was a Meth, Ecstasy, Coke, Pot, ect user. I smoked Meth for nearly a year. When I decided I didn't want to do it anymore, I was able to quit without much any trouble, but I could not not smoking cigarettes.

I hate tobacco. It is a plague leashed upon man.


Posted by: min0 lee

You have to have one after eating, sex and while taking a dump...


Posted by: KelJu

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Originally Posted by min0 lee View Post
You have to have one after eating, sex and while taking a dump...
Nope. I'm 100% tobacco free...again.


Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by min0 lee View Post
It starts with 2...then 3......then 10...then a pack.....it's the most addictive habit I ever had.
I've definitely seen an increase but I've been able to smoke the occasional cigarette and still not have cravings when I'm sober. Like I said, I can't stand the smell, I'm still that geek who takes a deep breath and then holds it as I walk past somebody whose smoking.

It's crazy how your mind tries to justify it though...


Posted by: fufu

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle View Post
I've definitely seen an increase but I've been able to smoke the occasional cigarette and still not have cravings when I'm sober. Like I said, I can't stand the smell, I'm still that geek who takes a deep breath and then holds it as I walk past somebody whose smoking.

It's crazy how your mind tries to justify it though...
I do the same thing walking across campus. It pisses me to the fuck off when someone is in front of me blowing smoke back at me. One of the most inconsiderate things that seems to be accepted.

I will smoke a cigar occasionally, a few times a year. The one occurrence when someone was walking behind me I asked if I was bothering them.

But back to your deal. A few cigarettes isn't a big deal relatively. But you must be able to assume full responsibility and realize that you may start to want to smoke more.


Posted by: Doublebase

I smoke when I'm drinking also. I never have any during the week while I'm at work or on work nights. I go out boozing about once a week and I'll smoke 8 - 10 cigs that night. I think cigs are gross when I'm not drinking. I've been doing this for 6 years now. I feel the effects the next day. Usually a combination of the cigs and the booze. I don't get drunk as much as I used to though.


Posted by: DOMS

I'm not a big fan of smoking pot, but cigarettes are a completely different animal.

Not because it's a "drug". The problem is all the chemicals that the smoking companies put into it. Not the least of which are the chemicals that make it more addicting.

If you have an addictive personality, it's even worse.

I have a saying when it comes to flirting with a woman other than your own and I think it applies to this situation as well: If you go to the barber shop often enough, you're going to get your hair cut.


Posted by: IainDaniel

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle View Post
I have never had a sober cigarette in my life and I don't plan to. Infact, I still hold my breath when I walk by people who are smoking because I just can't stand the smell... Unless I'm drunk.

With that said, I probably have on average about 2-3 cigarettes per week in a social setting.

I started doing this last year after my then most recent arrest because it gave me 10 minutes to chill out, rethink my game plan for the night, collect my thoughts, etc. because before that I was just out of control drinking non-stop.

I don't think it's necessarily become a problem, but is this something I should be worried about down the road?

I mean, there are people in this world who smoke multiple packs per day and live completely healthy lives, can 2-3 per week really hurt me that much?
Used to be like that all the time when I was younger, and didn't really think about it at the time. I never got addicted, and absolutly hated it when I was sober, I remember waking up from going out to bars, absolutely disgusted by the stench.

You are young dumb and full of cum, do whatever you think works to get you pussy


Posted by: getlean09

I just recently quit smoking, like you said sox it is a horrible habit. The hardest thing Ive ever had to do. 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 a week might not do much to you, but like others have said that could lead to 10, to 1 pack to 2 packs a day. Think of it this way, which I just did and realized it was worth quitting: Family Gym Membership around $1089.00 per year, Smoking costs Around 1300.00-1500.00 per year depending on how many packs a day you smoke. Not smoking is definetly better for your health and your wallet. I havent had a cigarette since 2/11/08 and plan on being smoke free for the rest of my life. Thanks to Commit....


Posted by: NordicNacho

smoke free so far today


Posted by: AKIRA

Can someone explain to me why people smoke "when they drink?"

Ive had a parent that smoked, my friends always smoked, I use to drink with them while they smoked (cigs were allowed inside restuarants in FL at one time), and I never said "fuck it, let me have one."

There are other embarrassing choices to make while drinking. Some that actually have some positives..


Posted by: NeilPearson

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Can someone explain to me why people smoke "when they drink?"

Ive had a parent that smoked, my friends always smoked, I use to drink with them while they smoked (cigs were allowed inside restuarants in FL at one time), and I never said "fuck it, let me have one."

There are other embarrassing choices to make while drinking. Some that actually have some positives..

I agree... I can't see the sense in it.


Posted by: goob

It's the legacy of being an ex-smoker. Alcohol and nicotine go really well together, only a smoker/ ex-smoker would know this, hence why non-smokers don't get it.

I used to smoke a few years back, not really heavily - about a pack every 2 days, but it was constant. I have no cravings for it sober, but after 2 or 3 beers a strange thing happens. I would love a cigarrette.

Out of nowhere comes this feeling, made so much stronger when others are smoking nearby. When sober, I would try to get away from the smoke, finding it disgusting, but pissed.......give me a cig.


Posted by: KelJu

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Originally Posted by AKIRA View Post
Can someone explain to me why people smoke "when they drink?"

Ive had a parent that smoked, my friends always smoked, I use to drink with them while they smoked (cigs were allowed inside restuarants in FL at one time), and I never said "fuck it, let me have one."

There are other embarrassing choices to make while drinking. Some that actually have some positives..
Because the two drugs compliment one another soooooooooooooooooo fucking well. Once you have smoked a cigarette after 3 beers, you will never be the same. From that moment on, you will feel a void in your soul while drinking if you don't lite one up.

So, on the bright side, since I stopped smoking, I can't drink either.


Posted by: AKIRA

I kind of understand. Heroin is great, but I never want to try it cuz I could get addicted.

I know Heroin doesnt equal cigarettes, but the behavior is similar.


Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
Used to be like that all the time when I was younger, and didn't really think about it at the time. I never got addicted, and absolutly hated it when I was sober, I remember waking up from going out to bars, absolutely disgusted by the stench.

You are young dumb and full of cum, do whatever you think works to get you pussy
Spot on. Great post.


Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by getlean09 View Post
I just recently quit smoking, like you said sox it is a horrible habit. The hardest thing Ive ever had to do. 1, 2, 3, 4, or 5 a week might not do much to you, but like others have said that could lead to 10, to 1 pack to 2 packs a day. Think of it this way, which I just did and realized it was worth quitting: Family Gym Membership around $1089.00 per year, Smoking costs Around 1300.00-1500.00 per year depending on how many packs a day you smoke. Not smoking is definetly better for your health and your wallet. I havent had a cigarette since 2/11/08 and plan on being smoke free for the rest of my life. Thanks to Commit....
I've bought two packs of cigarettes in my life. Both times just paying back friends because I bum off them.


Posted by: soxmuscle

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Originally Posted by KelJu View Post
Because the two drugs compliment one another soooooooooooooooooo fucking well. Once you have smoked a cigarette after 3 beers, you will never be the same. From that moment on, you will feel a void in your soul while drinking if you don't lite one up.

So, on the bright side, since I stopped smoking, I can't drink either.
So true..


Posted by: tomuchgear

well for me smoking is like lifting. if i didnt lift wieghts i would probaly kill some fuckin people lol. but really i am in the gym alot to deal with stress. i smoke maybee 5-8 cigs a day. quitn is hard smoking provides a release from stress. you have to go outside to do it. well at least for me any way. it really does seem when you drink thats when you notice you are addicted, for me peoples hand gestures remind me of smoking. then you smell it on some one it stinks but you gotta have a cigg wierd but thats how it is for me.


Posted by: IceDragon

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle View Post
I have never had a sober cigarette in my life and I don't plan to. Infact, I still hold my breath when I walk by people who are smoking because I just can't stand the smell... Unless I'm drunk.

With that said, I probably have on average about 2-3 cigarettes per week in a social setting.

I started doing this last year after my then most recent arrest because it gave me 10 minutes to chill out, rethink my game plan for the night, collect my thoughts, etc. because before that I was just out of control drinking non-stop.

I don't think it's necessarily become a problem, but is this something I should be worried about down the road?

I mean, there are people in this world who smoke multiple packs per day and live completely healthy lives, can 2-3 per week really hurt me that much?
Quite honestly, you'll only smoke if you're an idiot.

I'm currently watching my dad deteriorate to the point where he can't even make a cup of tea without bending over and gasping for air. He has emphysematic COPD caused entirely by smoking and he's actually lucky that he doesn't have cancer.

If by "lucky" they mean that he can barely eat, is barely able to shuffle more than a few feet at a time without getting out of breath, can hardly speak more than a few words without running out of air, usually ends up sleeping downstairs because he can't get up them, needs help in and out of the bath because he doesn't have the energy to do it himself and spends practically all day every day sitting on his butt feeling sorry for himself.

Worst part of it is that he's only 58.

I'm an ex-smoker and I stopped 8 years ago because I found out exactly what it was doing to me and my kids needed me more than I needed cigarettes. It's not "as bad" as they sometimes think, it's far, far worse. Just remember that it's not in the next few years that your habits catch up with you, it's decades from now.

Sorry to jump in on this, but it's something that's a pet hate of mine. I haven't read the rest of the thread either, so I could just be reiterating what someone else has already said.


Posted by: rantheman

I used to smoke 3 packs a day when I was in construction. Drank 12 beer a day, it was what everyone did. Quitting was hard, but smelling others smoke was even harder. It made me drool. It has been six years now and no relapses.


Posted by: DaMayor

You want to know how addictive cigarettes are?

The reason I came to IM in the first place was because I had quit smoking and needed to drop the weight I had gained as a result. That in and of itself was/is a helluva battle. Long story short, soon after I bought this restaurant (five years ago) the stress got to me, and I gave in....I started smoking again.

Recently, I started having some minor trouble with my breathing. No big deal, just allergens, the weather, whatever, right? Until last night's memory shook me up.

My father died of cancer back in '95. Not lung cancer, but cancer...there's really no difference. Anyway, just last night I had a flashback to the last week of my Dad's life. A day or so before he died, his Doctor ordered PRN (as needed) breathing treatments to keep him "comfortable". At one point, as he again struggled for breath, he grabbed my forearm, and with genuine fear in his eye, said, "I can't breathe, son...help me breathe, please, help me breathe." I held it together long enough to request another treatment, and I had to leave the room.
There's nothing more painful than to see the man who used to carry you around on his shoulders beg you for help.
I don't want my son to experience the same thing.


Posted by: DOMS

The only man that I ever considered calling "dad" died from a long drawn-out battle with lung cancer (from smoking). It was horrible to see.

Back in the day, they really didn't know any better. But know we do. And subjecting loved ones to that is, in my estimation, just as horrible. Not to mention what smoking around others does to them.

I see parents driving in the cars, with the windows rolled up, smoking with their kids in the car. I want to pull them from the cars and beat them.


Posted by: katt

If its not the emphysema or the lung cancer - throat cancer - it's loss of bone density.. that's another side effect of smoking that ALOT of people don't know about... if you are a regular smoker for at least 5 years or more, that is inevitable..

Why would you want to do it?? It's just nasty and for any other reason, how the hell do you afford to do it???


Posted by: imback

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Originally Posted by soxmuscle View Post
I have never had a sober cigarette in my life and I don't plan to. Infact, I still hold my breath when I walk by people who are smoking because I just can't stand the smell... Unless I'm drunk.

With that said, I probably have on average about 2-3 cigarettes per week in a social setting.

I started doing this last year after my then most recent arrest because it gave me 10 minutes to chill out, rethink my game plan for the night, collect my thoughts, etc. because before that I was just out of control drinking non-stop.

I don't think it's necessarily become a problem, but is this something I should be worried about down the road?

I mean, there are people in this world who smoke multiple packs per day and live completely healthy lives, can 2-3 per week really hurt me that much?

The only thing about 2-3 per week is it leads to more later on. Your body will eventually get used to 2-3 and then it turns to a pack. Its like doing drugs...you do it little by little starting out and then eventually you are doing it all the time. I'm military and smoking, drinkin, and dipping are very popular. I allowed my inhibitions to fall to the influence of my peers and got caught up in it. I currently dip...I work on planes in Dover. I used to call tobacco people bullshit about being hard to quit...now I am a believer. Kind of like the kid in highschool who says to his parents I wont miss highschool but later on finds out what they said was true. Well, the best way I can describe the craving is its kind of similar to whenever you are hungry. You feel this urge and it just eats at you and drives you fuckin crazy until you have absolutely no choice to bow down....nicotene is a sneaky lil demon that will possess you and harass you for the rest of your life until you absolutely say no.


Posted by: skitzo

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Originally Posted by HialeahChico305 View Post
spark that blunt sox. screws cigs
Hell yeah get bent..better then cigs..relieves stress..more fun..just be careful because it is illegal hahaa


Posted by: vader

sounds like you may have bigger drinking problem than cigarettes.
Don't you know that alcohol is not good for building muscle?



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