Originally Posted by thebig_dog

Hi everyone,

Im about to start a cycle of a H-drol and Orastan E stacked. My weight is 175lbs and have approx 9% body fat. I would consider myself a moderately experienced pro hormone user, as i have done several cycles in the past, including a cycle of halodrol tabs. I plan on doing a 4 week cycle of H-Drol at 50 mg, 50mg, 75mg, 75mg. On top i will be stacking the orastan E at 100mg a day over the four weeks, maybe jumping up to 125mg on the last week, but im going to roll with the punches with that one and see where i am after a few weeks on this plan, i dont want to over do it. Of course if i feel im doing too much as i go along, im going to drop the dosages on both, but this is what i plan as of now. Normally i do a fairly simple post cycle with an estrogen blocker, normally 6oxo and a natural test booster. I was thinking becuase im doing a more than i normally do, this time i was thinkign of using novladex, however i do not know much about this compound. I was wondering what sort of dosage i would need to properly post cycle, or if this is even worth it.

Any input is greatly appreciated, including any suggested post cycle stacks, as mine is a work in progress.

Thanks guys

Originally Posted by thebig_dog

thanks, do you think that it would be the smartest thing to run post cycle, or do you think that the 6 oxo and test booster would be sufficient enough for a cycle like this?

Originally Posted by Pirate!

Solid advice, above. I recommend extending the cycle to 6 weeks for better results from the H-drol.

Originally Posted by dmangiarelli

You could run something like Post Cycle Support/SAMe/Lean Xtreme/6-oxo. Most test boosters are somewhat suppressive and run counter to what you are trying to accomplish in PCT. Post Cycle Support will boost your test but it also will help with estrgen control and the SAMe will help with liver and test somewhat. Add in the Lean Xtreme in week 3 and the 6-oxo in week 4 and taper it for 4 weeks.

You can also run something like Toremifene which will also help with lipid profiles as well as being a SERM.

Good luck ...

Originally Posted by StxNas

^^^He's pretty good with PCT suggestions!

I'm assuming he meant to say "taper it down". Just clarifying b/c it's commonly suspected that abruptly stoping the usage of an aromatse inhibitor could be one of the likely causes of delayed gyno.

I know experienced users probably took that to be implicit, but newbs sign up everyday

Originally Posted by biggfly

I am about to run a 5-6 week cycle of H-drol as well stacked with either Orastan or I do have AX Prostanzonol on hand. My PCT question is I have: AI Cycle support for 10-14 days PRIOR to cycle, then during the cycle. Liverlonger during and after cycle. PCT so far is Retain2, Anabolic Matrix Test boost, NOLVA, and AI Post CYcle support. Now the Nolva from CEM, which is coming mail soon, it is obviously liquid. On the site is shows a pic of it with syringe, but I am assuming this is a liquid SERM form them that is already "mixed" or the solubility is already handled from them?? Also the descrip says it is a pump or spray bottle?? Guess I am just looking for what it is I will be getting. Is it "elementary" when it gets here how to dose it and it arrives ready to ingest??, or do I need to do my math and science and figure it out??

Originally Posted by StxNas

I've heard it tastes pretty bad if it's not flavored. Some empty 00 capsules could come in handy. I'm not sure if any of the board sponsors carry empty caps though.

Originally Posted by StxNas

I've heard it tastes pretty bad if it's not flavored. Some empty 00 capsules could come in handy. I'm not sure if any of the board sponsors carry empty caps though.

Originally Posted by dmangiarelli

You can also drop it in some OJ and down it!

Originally Posted by biggfly

I am about to run a 5-6 week cycle of H-drol as well stacked with either Orastan or I do have AX Prostanzonol on hand. My PCT question is I have: AI Cycle support for 10-14 days PRIOR to cycle, then during the cycle. Liverlonger during and after cycle. PCT so far is Retain2, Anabolic Matrix Test boost, NOLVA, and AI Post CYcle support. Now the Nolva from CEM, which is coming mail soon, it is obviously liquid. On the site is shows a pic of it with syringe, but I am assuming this is a liquid SERM form them that is already "mixed" or the solubility is already handled from them?? Also the descrip says it is a pump or spray bottle?? Guess I am just looking for what it is I will be getting. Is it "elementary" when it gets here how to dose it and it arrives ready to ingest??, or do I need to do my math and science and figure it out??

Originally Posted by clayu86

If you get any of that PCT stuff such as liquinolv[nolvadex] and you dont want to deal with such a horrible taste cemproducts.com has flavored ones. They come down a little bitter but theyre a hell of a lot better tasting than the original taste.