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Posted by: clemson357

Yes I know all the basics about negative caloric intake...yada yada. Recommend me a supplement just for shits and giggles.


Posted by: workingatit43

Welcome to IM there are alot of them but to name one i would say eca stack


Posted by: biggfly

Agree, gotta love the ECA stack. For me, the most productive cutting (and seemingly rapid effectiveness) stack/supp combo out there. Getting the E(ephedrine) is becoming more increasingly difficult. Stay away from the "extracts" however, must be worded "ephedrine alkaloids" for it to be true ephedrine. 25 mg/ 3x day stacked with aspirin(300mg 3x) and caffeine(200 mg 3x). Not after 4 p.m though, or sleepless nights await you!! Or if you are a laser surgeon, as a shaky hand will not be good!!!LOL


Posted by: Irons77

How much does it go for?


Posted by: biggfly

The ECA?? You usually have to buy it in 3 different products. Gotta find a weight loss product with ephedrine in it(ephedra alkaloids or ephedrine alkaloids) like a Lipodrene original formula, or something like that(usually around $70 bottle 90 so a month supply). The old Ripped Fuel tabs had it and I think Yellow Jackets. They don't make them anymore, so its hard to find,so if you find it in any of these supp sites it will be leftover stock with limited quantities. Next just regular old Bayer or generic aspirin, and then caffeine, either through what you drink or cheap ass caffeine capsules for like $6 bottle. The trick is the ephedrine, to find it that is. Great fat burning/cutting formula. If I hear or see anywhere that has some, I will PM you a link. If you can get it, you will love it bro. Does some serious fat burning. The ephedrine raises body temp(thermogenics) so your body temp increase just burns cals while u do nothing, and ephedrine is also anti-catabolic in properties, so you can burn cals/fat without sacrificing your muscle. Great preworkout stim, great focus and energy!!! I will keep looking and see if I find any.


Posted by: Irons77

Let me know please, bro!!


Posted by: workingatit43

I found 2 products right here


Delta Health Products Yellow Bullet 100caps(W /EPH)

EphBurn 25 with EPH


Posted by: Irons77

With these do you have to stack with anything?^^


Posted by: tucker01

Dnp


Posted by: Irons77

What???


Posted by: tucker01

2,4-Dinitrophenol..... It is a joke. BTW. I would never fuck around with this stuff.


Posted by: Irons77

Is it that bad? For 4-8 weeks only?


Posted by: nni

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Originally Posted by Irons77 View Post
Is it that bad? For 4-8 weeks only?
yes, people have died from misuse.


Posted by: nni

my summer cut will be lean xtreme + adrenalean. cant wait.


Posted by: biggfly

The DNP is bad stuff you are saying?? Never heard of it...what is it?? Or the ECA stack is bad stuff??


Posted by: tucker01

DNP is dangerous. It is used in Explosives, pesticides. But miraculous for shedding the pounds.

I won't use ECA again personally. I find myself too sensitive to it, and become extremely irratible.


Posted by: biggfly

Oh damn!!! No thanks on that. Ya, ECA is finicky. Some people can't handle that jittery feeling, and irritability is so common. When/if I do it, I usually run smaller amounts, back off the caffeine(which I don't drink pop or coffee so it helps) and keep it to 3 weeks on 2-3 weeks off. Usually only 2-3 times a year. I'm good as long as I am doing something, but if I am sitting watching tv, doing paper or computer work then I can't handle it.


Posted by: Irons77

Sound like good stuff then I'm going to try the "yellow bullet", Could use the energy on my cut. Do I need the bayer and why?


Posted by: biggfly

Aspirin is just supposed to be healthy for your heart. You know the Bayer commercial, if someone has a heart attack, give them a Bayer. It is proven to be healthy for the hear in moderation. With the ephedrine stack, probably aspirin is thrown in since the Eph raises heart rate, etc. Check the Yellow Jacket ingredients, not sure if it is the "true ephedrine" and not just an extract. Hang on and let me see if I found some "true eph" for you. Its gotta be "ephedrine alkaloid group" not "extract" from leaves. Theres a big difference. I will PM you.


Posted by: biggfly

Just checked...all sold out. Damn. Keep you posted bro!!


Posted by: tucker01

Personally I would drop the Aspirin it isn't necessary.

http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/su...ml#post1335643


Posted by: biggfly

Thanks...good to know!!!


Posted by: Irons77

Thanks Iain and biggfly


Posted by: biggfly

Irons PM'd you bro on it...


Posted by: PreMier

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Originally Posted by workingatit43 View Post
Welcome to IM there are alot of them but to name one i would say eca stack
he has been here since 04


Posted by: biggfly

mUst have been incognito!!!!


Posted by: workingatit43

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Originally Posted by PreMier View Post
he has been here since 04
i must have been having a brain cramp doing alot of posting on alot of boards with this rep stuff get spacey at times


Posted by: workingatit43

Ah now i see what i did looked real quick saw the 1 but that was photo's not posts duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!


Posted by: Irons77

Yellow bullet good?


Posted by: biggfly

Not sure Irons...did you get my PM?? I think that ECA product on the site looks like the only one left in stock on there that has the "ephedra alkaloids group" meaning the real deal. The extracts aren't the same as the alkaloids group ephedra. One is stronger(the banned one) te other is much more subdued, and probably more like anything you can get off the shelf these days. Maybe compare the "old" original Hydroxycut to the new formula Hydroxycut. No comparison at all.


Posted by: biggfly

I see the Yellow Bullet says "naturally occurring alkaloid group", but based on the price, it seems as though it isn't the "true" alkaloids group" that really produces the result. From what I have seen, any of them in that $40 range don't seem to be the "real deal" so that is why I am leary of the Yellow Bullets. Look at the out of stock items, they all fall in that $60-$70 range, and for a reason from what I have been seeing and told. I would go with the ECA labeled one.


Posted by: Irons77

Why are they banned?


Posted by: biggfly

Ephedra got banned cause they thought it was hard on the heart. Then they did research and the ruling was overturned finding that it wasnt, then they made it so it wasn't a product available to consumers OTC after the overruling.


Posted by: NordicNacho

ephedra is legal i just got 2 bottles in the m ail today.


Posted by: Irons77

What and where from? Looking for some


Posted by: workingatit43

Check here all the eph you could want even Lipodrene

Ephedra Diet supplements - Ephedra with Free Shipping Discount Bodybuilding Supplements - Discount Nutritional Supplements Store

It is still legal


Posted by: workingatit43

But if you are going to be Eatin like a horse!!!! like it says under your avi the eph will not help lol


Posted by: biggfly

I checked with Lipodrene and they said there is a huge difference between the ephedra extract and the old ephedrine alkaloids group. I have a bottle of the "old" formula, and it is worded differently on the backside. It clearly states "ephedrine alkaloids group" not "extract". I look at all these products on these sites that say ephedra, and yes they do have it, in an extract, but Lipodrene says it is not the same as old. We should do more research via Google or something to distinguish ephedrine alkaloids group from extracts. I have been led to believe they are way different. Lets do some checking.


Posted by: biggfly

Nacho...where at?? PM me...


Posted by: NordicNacho

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Originally Posted by workingatit43 View Post
thats where i got mine


Posted by: biggfly

check this out...see what I am trying to explain....

Lipodrene ORIGINAL 25 mg Ephedrine Alkaloids 100 tabs - $69.99 : Inventory Disposition Center, Yes we have it!


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