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What liquid do you use in your shakes?

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Posted by: I Are Baboon

I was out of milk this morning, so I used water in my protein shake instead. I usually use 1/2 cup of water, and 1/2 cup of milk. Today I used all water. I could not tell the difference with the shake flavor, but it was a little more runny than usual.

Just wondering what you mix with your powder.



Posted by: kuso

water.



Posted by: Jodi

Water & Heavy Cream



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Originally posted by mochy
Water & Heavy Cream
I guess I should have put an "Other" option.



Posted by: kuso

Yeah you shoulda.....I also mix in a spoon of udo`s.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Well I was just talkin' about the main liquid ingredient you use. I add berries and creatine and dextrose, but for the sake of this poll, I don't care about that stuff.



Posted by: kuso

Ahh stop ya bitch`n Go on, admit it....you fuked up :yep:



Posted by: Fade

Milk milk milk



Posted by: I Are Baboon

yyyyup. I botched.

It's frickin Monday morning. Cut me some slack, homey.



Posted by: w8lifter

You should have a cream option



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Originally posted by w8lifter
You should have a cream option
Well MODERATORS of this forum can edit the poll..........





Posted by: w8lifter

It says I do not have access, what's up w/ that?



Posted by: w8lifter

Flax should be added as well



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Who uses flax as their liquid "base"? That's a shitload of flax!



Posted by: w8lifter

Well duh...I thought this was in nutrition I thought Prince had taken my mod status away I can't edit this, I'm not mod here...you'll have to w8 till DP comes back

And I use flax



Posted by: w8lifter

And you use a tbsp of flax or 3 tbsp of cream and mix it w/ water, lol



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Well then that would make your answer to this poll either "water" or "combo".

Maybe Prince took your Supplements mod status away. Step one in your path to IM banishment.....



Posted by: w8lifter

Originally posted by I Are Baboon
Well then that would make your answer to this poll either "water" or "combo".

Maybe Prince took your Supplements mod status away. Step one in your path to IM banishment.....
That what i thought but I was never mod of supps



Posted by: LAM

always water...



Posted by: J'Bo

Water, and cream, Udo's, or hempseed oil.



Posted by: Mudge

I used to use milk when I cared about taste, I use water now, sometimes I add whipping cream.



Posted by: nikegurl

water & flax.



Posted by: seyone

water and milk, I just can't drink it down with just water.



Posted by: Mudge

Some products taste better than others, I figure its 2-3 cups of garbage so it will be over with soon



Posted by: KataMaStEr

pre workout I mix it with just water/and after workout I mix it with milk and add a banana.



Posted by: Mudge

I used to like a bannana/milk with mine for energy pre-workout though.



Posted by: buff_tat2d_chic

I use 8 oz FF milk. Is that bad?????



Posted by: kuso

FF milk still has sugar in it.



Posted by: buff_tat2d_chic

Originally posted by kuso
FF milk still has sugar in it.

Added to it? or milk has sugar? or am I just fuqing lost?<------probably lost as usual.



Posted by: KataMaStEr

Milk has sugar, usualy about 12g per serving



Posted by: buff_tat2d_chic

Originally posted by kuso
FF milk still has sugar in it.
DAMN! I need help figuring this menu thing out!



Posted by: Mudge

Thats why "dairy is evil".



Posted by: BUSTINOUT

Depends whether I am bulking or cutting. Most of the time water, but when bulking I drink about a gallon of milk/day. Not much difference in taste, just texture abd a little sweeter. Flax is usually added too. Most powders do not have EFA added to them because it would go rancid on the shelves. Be careful with hempseed if you are at risk if being dope tested.



Posted by: PulsatingArt

Jack Daniels. (just kidding)
I use Cream or Red Cap Milk when building mass, and when cutting, either skim milk or H2O or mixed.



Posted by: mad_mike

I use 1% milk all the time jus to get the little bit of extra protein.



Posted by: bigss75

I use skim milk all the time That is one of the only reasons i can down some shakes.



Posted by: dvlmn666

water here.



Posted by: Destram

Originally posted by bigss75
I use skim milk all the time That is one of the only reasons i can down some shakes.
Took the words out of my mouth.



Posted by: Mudge

You guys should try the milk/egg protein I have, no flavoring, no milk! Soy still tastes worse though, flavoring or not!



Posted by: Clint Calaway

Always Milk. With water, it tastes like flavored chalk!!!!!!!!!



Posted by: LAM

Some info for you milk drinkers:

When milk is pasteurized all the valuable enzymes are destroyed (lactase for the assimilation of lactose; galactase for the assimilation of galactose; phosphatase for the assimilation of calcium). Literally dozens of other precious enzymes are destroyed in the pasteurization process. Without them, milk is very difficult to digest. This excess milk protein therefore putrefies in the human digestive tract, clogging the intestines with sticky sludge, some of which seeps back into the bloodstream. The human pancreas is not always able to produce these enzymes; over-stress of the pancreas can lead to diabetes and other diseases.

The butterfat of commercial milk is homogenized, subjecting it to rancidity. Even worse, butterfat may be removed altogether. Skim milk is sold as a health food, but the truth is that butter-fat is in milk for a reason. Without it the body cannot absorb and utilize the vitamins and minerals in the water fraction of the milk. Along with valuable trace minerals and short chain fatty acids, butterfat is America's best source of preformed vitamin A. Synthetic vitamin D, known to be toxic to the liver, is added to replace the natural vitamin D complex in butterfat. Butterfat also contains re-arranged acids which have strong anti-carcinogenic properties.



Posted by: Mudge

Gee whiz, milk sounds like sh!t water now.



Posted by: Destram

LAM do you have any links to this information being published?



Posted by: LAM

do a Internet search on "natural enzyme in cow's milk" there are hundreds of articles on this topic..

some studies even showed that when baby cows where feed pasteurized milk from their own mothers that death has occured in several months...



Posted by: Mudge

Heres a nasty one:
http://www.all-creatures.org/health/milk.html

and another

http://www.vnn.org/editorials/ET9907/ET31-4409.html



Posted by: Pitboss

Originally posted by LAM
some studies even showed that when baby cows where feed pasteurized milk from their own mothers that death has occured in several months...
huh???? How do they pasteurize it in the COW?????



Posted by: Mudge

No dude, milk the cow, pasteurize it, and give it to the "baby cow" aka calf. In other words, out of a jug just about, other than it was from thier own mother, I found this on one of the sites linked from my Google search.



Posted by: bigss75

Why is it that with milk the protien powder mixes easier. When I mix mine with water it is always cumpy.



Posted by: ALBOB

Just tried a combination you might like. I mixed 12 oz. Crystal Light "Tangerine-Strawberry" with a vanilla whey protein. OUTSTANDING!!!! Tastes just like a cream cicle from the ice cream truck.

P.S. to LAM: So where do you get UN-Pasturized milk??? I've been away from milk for a while since I'm TRYING to cut but when I go back to bulking I LOVE milk. Any ideas?



Posted by: Mudge

a whole industry had sprung up to pasteurize milk and no authority wanted to put people out of work, so the processing of milk became a law.




Posted by: Hammerlynn

Depending on the flavor of protein:

Strawberry prot=8oz soy milk (low sugar) and 8oz water
Vanilla prot=whatever crystal light is made in the fridge (SF tang also is yummy!)



Posted by: david

I use 12 oz. h20, ice cubes and a small amount of OJ to loosen the thickness in Nitro Tech. With Micellean, just water. Add Flax to both of them!



Posted by: LAM

I don't know where you would get it. It would seem that acquiring it would be very difficult as the seller would be liable if the consumer got ill due to the strict laws regarding processing.

fortunately I can't stand the stuff, I think it tastes horrible.



Posted by: ALBOB

Originally posted by Hammerlynn soy milk (low sugar)
I've never tried soy milk, does it taste about the same as the regular stuff? How are the nutrient breakdowns compared to regular milk? Henderson eh? You and LAM ought to hook up and start getting ready for my grand enterance. 11 more months and ALBOB's moving to town!!! (I'll be in the far Northwest so you won't have to worry about my parties keeping you up at night. )



Posted by: LAM

ALBOB...you are moving out in the boonies ???



Posted by: ALBOB

Yeah, we found a development that's all single story homes, 1/3 acre lots or bigger, all with RV access. It's in the Centennial area, basically 95 a few miles north of Ann Rd. Looks like that's the fastest growing part of town right now so I know property values are gonna go throught the roof and we've always liked that area anyway. Now I just need to find that damn rich uncle I know is out there somewhere.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

We got two beer votes!!!



Posted by: ALBOB

Wouldn't that be in a PRE work out shake. You know, extra carbs for energy.



Posted by: Hammerlynn

Hi Albob the soy milk does not taste like regular milk. I had my mom try it and she said it almost tastes malted. I really like it though. Here's a link with the nutritional info..I'm too lazy to type it all out..lol

http://www.whitewave.com/index.php?id=34

LAM and I should plan a homecoming eh? Where do you want to go? OG or Cheetah's? Or you both could take ME to see the Thunder Down Under

The area you are looking at is very nice but like you said getting very developed! I'm up on Stephanie and Horizon Ridge! Same deal up here! Growing like mad and they just keep moving further up the mountain!

We'll have to plan a gym time or a buffet visit..lol



Posted by: LAM

I'll meet you at the buffet !



Posted by: snipes287

I keep hearing ezeryone talking about flax. What is it? and no soy milk dons't taste anything like milk. its really grose but really healthy which is why I drink it. buy any who, just wandering what flax is



Posted by: Mudge

Oil obtained from seeds, "flax seed oil".



Posted by: snipes287

what does it do?



Posted by: KataMaStEr

Originally posted by w8lifter
Just gathering info from different sites

Borage Oil

The oil derived from the seed of the blue, star shaped borage flower is nature's richest source of gamma linolenic acid (GLA). Evidence suggests that certain individuals may lack the necessary enzyme systems to effectively metabolize the linoleic acid found in other polyunsaturated oils to GLA. Borage seed oil provides a potent and economical form of GLA allowing for a more efficient fat metabolism in these individuals. Supplements containing GLA have become popular in recent years for their numerous applications.

The Borage plant has been consumed for generations in Europe, but only recently was its seed identified as a potent natural source of the omega-6 EFA derivative, gamma-linolenic acid (GLA). Borage oil has a higher concentration of GLA than black currant or evening primrose oils. It`s also more cost-effective as Borage seeds are larger and contain more oil. Borage oil is the preferred source of GLA among many nutritionists and natural health practitioners.

Benefits of daily consumption of Omega Nutrition Borage Oil
Has the highest, natural GLA concentration compared to other plant sources
Assists the body in its natural healing process.
Is extracted without chemicals or refining.
Daily consumption has beneficial effects on acne, allergies, cardiovascular problems, dehydration, dry skin, fatigue, PMS, osteo-arthritis, weight-problems, mood swings and liver problems.
Is more cost-effective than other GLA sources due to its large, potent seeds.

Flaxseed Oil

In nature 50 essential nutrients have been discovered that are necessary to sustain human life. Of these, two essential fatty acids have been identified, alpha linolenic acid, an Omega-3 fatty acid, and linoleic acid, an Omega-6 fatty acid. Of all known food sources organic flaxseed oil has been recognized as nature's richest source of these vital essential fatty acids containing 55% alpha linolenic and 16.7% linoleic acids. Modern manufacturing methods of polyunsaturated oils have done much to remove these important fats from our food chain. Large scale nutritional surveys suggest that much of our population is deficient in essential fatty acids. Recent scientific research, coupled with flaxseed oil's long history of therapeutic use, has propelled essential fat supplementation into the forefront of human nutrition.

Organic, unrefined flax seed oil is nature's richest source of vegetarian essential fatty acids. EFAs are essential for maintaining good health. Flax seed oil is unique because it contains both omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids. Our bodies depend on EFAs for normal cell functioning as EFAs act as building blocks in cell membranes, and produce hormone-like substances necessary for energy metabolism and cardiovascular and immune health.

Flax seed oil contains more than twice the amount of omega-3 fatty acids as fish oils.


Organic Lignan Flaxseed Oil

Lignans are a highly studied and researched class of plant chemical (phytochemical) and a form of insoluble fiber that have recently come to the forefront of nutritional research. Compelling studies funded by the National Cancer Institute have shown that lignans may possess impressive preventative properties. Research has established that the amount of lignans present in human blood samples is directly related to the amount of lignan rich producing foods consumed. When flaxseed was compared to other lignan rich producing foods, it was found to have 200-800 times more lignan precursors. By using the Barlean's Bio-Electron process the flax particulates (high in lignan precursors) is retained in the oil, offering nature's richest source of these valuable plant chemicals.

.....Combines certified-organic unrefined flax seed oil and lignans from flax seed fiber. Lignans are a very important component of high-fiber foods originating from plants. Flax seeds are the richest available source of plant lignans.

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Plant lignans are converted in the colon by bacterial fermentation into a form of lignans used by humans. Flax seed fiber consumption results in 100-800 fold greater human lignan production than from other plant sources. Lignans are structurally similar to estrogens and work within the body to balance estrogen levels.


Manitoba HarvestTM Hemp Seed Oil

is nature’s richest source of the Essential Fatty Acids (76%) and is a rich source of GLA (3%). Hemp Seed Oil offers a good balance of Omega 6 to Omega 3 fatty acids (3.75 to 1), suitable for life long consumption.

Manitoba Harvest Hemp Seed Oil has a light green color and a mild nutty flavor, a tasteful compliment to a variety of foods. It can be added to juices, smoothies, soups and sauces to create a rich creamy texture. Hemp Seed Oil is an excellent base for any salad dressing. You can substitute Hemp Seed Oil for other oils in recipes that are not heated above 160 C (320 F).

Manitoba Harvest Hemp Seed Oil is cold pressed, unrefined, packaged without additives or preservatives and grown without herbicides or pesticides from, Non-GMO Hemp Seed.

Organic, unrefined, unsterilized, and unfumigated hemp seeds are rich source of essential fatty acids (EFAs). Hemp seed oil, when cold-pressed, contains 20% Omega-3 EFA, 58% Omega-6 EFA, 11% Omega-9 FA and 1-2% Gamma Linolenic Acid (GLA). As well as providing EFAs nutritional Hemp products contain a small amount of GLA, a derivative of Omega-6 EFA that is valued for its anti-inflammatory properties. EFAs act as building blocks for all cell membranes while improving energy metabolism and cardiovascular health.




Posted by: snipes287

ahh thanks katamaster



Posted by: Action-Jackson

Milk.



Posted by: Flakko

I'm gonna try with beer instead, maybe I can make a good gainer!



Posted by: Addiction

Milk = Bulking
Water = Cutting



Posted by: romaxe

you gotta love your milk shakes..
who does their shakes with beer by the way?



Posted by: VanessaNicole

Quote Originally Posted by Mudge
No dude, milk the cow, pasteurize it, and give it to the "baby cow" aka calf. In other words, out of a jug just about, other than it was from thier own mother, I found this on one of the sites linked from my Google search.
The reason this would kill the calf has NOTHING to do with enzymes.

Breast milk is sterile. Once it's milked out of the cow, it is contaminated. Calves still have immature, underdeveloped immune systems which cannot protect them from pathogens which are (inevitably) introduced with the milk.

Plus breast milk also has antibodies which further protect the baby animals, these may very well be destroyed when the milk is pasteurized.

This is alarmist b/s. Except for one point:

There are fat soluble vitamins in milk which are poorly absorbed when all of the fat is removed. This is why it is better to a) choose low fat dairy products instead of non fat or b) eat fat from another source along with your dairy.

Dairy may not be best for all people or all diets, but it certainly won't kill you, and it has quite a few strong points.

That said, I mix my shake with water except for my PWO shake which has low fat milk (specifically not skim milk).

VanessaNicole



Posted by: Never2Cut

water pre and post wo. Milk any other time. I drink it whether bulking or cutting. Only difference is skim while cutting 1% or 2 % while bulking. I've done both only milk and only water for extended periods of time and no difference. So i'm gonna use my milk, and it makes shakes taste much better!



Posted by: I Are Baboon

OK, who is the dumbass that started this thread four years ago?

Oh wait....nevermind.



Posted by: ALBOB

Quote Originally Posted by I Are Baboon
OK, who is the dumbass that started this thread four years ago?

Oh wait....nevermind.
And is he still a dumbass?

Oh wait............nevermind.



Posted by: I Are Baboon

Is that shit I smell or did ALBOB just walk in the room?



Posted by: ALBOB

Gimme a kiss bigboy.



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