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Posted by: steppin-up

..after a long time trying to find the right product..i have chosen to go with m-drol and will be posting daily results from start to finish...i will be posting progress pics as well as personal gains weight strength and sides....will be posting soon....

Posted by: steppin-up

well after all the drama of usps priority international mail etc...my cycle will be starting tomorrow....i will be posting everyday,even though there wont be much change for a couple of weeks....still i am dedicated to giving a thorough report so i am starting from day one...stay tuned.....

Posted by: steppin-up

well as i said i will be posting everyday from here on in.....finally got my cycle started....and as we all know, day one is more the satisfaction of knowing the good stuff is not far away....have done a week of anabolic innovations cycle support to tune the liver for the possible stress and apart form that just the norm of creatine and protein shakes....nolva on stand by just in case......so i guess this is it......71kgs,31yrs....3 years at the gym....lets see how good this is......

Posted by: kbtoy31

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Originally Posted by steppin-up

well as i said i will be posting everyday from here on in.....finally got my cycle started....and as we all know, day one is more the satisfaction of knowing the good stuff is not far away....have done a week of anabolic innovations cycle support to tune the liver for the possible stress and apart form that just the norm of creatine and protein shakes....nolva on stand by just in case......so i guess this is it......71kgs,31yrs....3 years at the gym....lets see how good this is......

What's up brother? Are you going to keep taking the creatine while on cycle? I've heard a lot of debate either way. Some say ur already taxing ur liver with the M-drol and that u should just wait until PCT to start ur creatine again. Also I've heard that its good to cycle ur creatine anyways. Then others say it doesn't matter either way. I guess it comes down to personal prefrence. Well good luck bro'! I'll be following along.

Posted by: mw1

Looks good Bro!!!! Will be following!

Posted by: steppin-up

Day Two:..ok...as i said nothing to reall report and yeah im still taking my creatine along with the cycle...i have looked into it and as with alot of things they will say you shouldnt and some argue it makes no difference....i am doing anabolic innovations cycle support so i figure that my liver can handle the extra load and i dont really cycle my creatine....i dont load it just 5 grams a day pre and post workout.i dont think it will be effecting me adversly so im just gonna play that one by ear for the time being....as for second day of the cycle report....lmao...nothing yet.....im just waiting for the floodgates to open at around day 7-10....then these posts will be alot more interesting i think....until then its pretty much gonna be same old same old...but last night my mrs took the before pic but you all gonna have to wait for the after pic!!...good to see the CEL rep keeping in touch too...

Posted by: steppin-up

day three:
once again not much to report, no sides, no extreme gains in size or strength,but with that said i am feeling very good......i have noticed also that after my workouts my muscles are staying pumped somewhat....maybe im imagining it....who knows?....only being day three i figure its a little early to expect anything results wise but i swear my body is lapping this up for my first cycle.....i think that my body is reacting well to this as it is a first cycle and therefore is acting a littl like a sponge, also being 31 yrs old may meen that my natuaral test production was slowing down and that is why i am feeling a tiny hint of wellbeing internally.....either way im thinking it aint gonna be long untill i get to feel some definate benifits.....stay tuned......

Posted by: steppin-up

also just a quick querie......any suggestions on pct to run i got anabolic innavations post cycle support....but im thinking of the sci-fit ES3 stack also....along with the nolva,.....anyone had experience with either of these?

Posted by: kbtoy31

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Originally Posted by steppin-up

also just a quick querie......any suggestions on pct to run i got anabolic innavations post cycle support....but im thinking of the sci-fit ES3 stack also....along with the nolva,.....anyone had experience with either of these?

what's up brother? AS I have not used either of these IDK 1st hand however believe me when I say I've read page after page on this subject. Is the ES3 stack and ATD based AI? IF so you may want to look into something with formestane in it or 6-bromo. As I've heard it's bad to use as a PCT(ATD not ES3). But you should be good with the nolva 40/40/20/10. With the AI ran alongside it, Now wether you decide to run it inversely opposed to the SERM that's ur call. I've heard opposing arguments either way. Maybe someone with more experience can chime in on this. Also another thing u may want to look into is cortisol control but again thats ur call. I don't think it's necessary IMO as I think you want some cortisol in PCT. But it's all what you decide brother. Oh yea plus u should keep up with the post cycle support too. I think you've got everything covered my man. I know it's only been a couple days but how's it going so far?

Posted by: steppin-up

day four: good advice and the ES3 is ai.....or so it says..as for the cortisal...i havent really looked into it but will do for sure....being only day four bro not much happening really....its the calm before the storm though...imo.....any advice is good advice so keep it coming and...although its early days all is going very well...maintaining good focus with my workouts and creatine and m-drol doesnt seem to be bothering my liver in the slightest...im feeling all round and have noticed that muscle pumps are still reacting really well right now...no real strength/size gain still but that was never on the agenda this early on...main reason i am posting daily from start to finish is i know i got heaps of help and advice from previous threads but this kind of depth was no where to be found....so i can help the next skinny guy out with this thread then my job is done....i see no point in doing this cycle and keeping it all to myself....leaving the next guy in the dark as to what he can expect from this as a first cycle.....plenty of ppl have been a great help to me so im just trying to give a bit back......

Posted by: kbtoy31

no I realize the ES3 is an AI, I was just wondering if u knew what kind of ingredients are in the bottle? I've heard it's not good to use an ATD based AI in PCT and I was just suggesting something with 6-bromo, 6-oxo, or formestane in it. Oh another question too. How are you running the m-drol? 10/20/20... or?? Yea but you are def. gonna start seeing those gains soon bro'.

Posted by: steppin-up

4-Etioallocholen-3, 6, 17-trione 50mg
6, 17-keto-etiocholeve-3-ol Tetrahydopyranol 50mg
3, 17-keto-etiochol-triene 50mg
6, 7-dihydroxybergamottin (DHB) 50mg ......
.............that is per cap for the ES3 bro.......thanks for the advice ill have to look into the ATD side as i hadnt heard that it may not be a great idea to run an ATD based AI in PCT, as for how am i running the M-Drol?....the usual 10,20,20,20/30...the last week will just depend on how i am going in general with strength,size, and sides really....if im getting the results without nasty sides i think ill still just stick with the 20....but if the sides aint bothering me and im not seeing the gains etc then im keeping the option open for the last week.....from what i hear though...i dont think lack of gains is gonna be a worry the diet is clean and the workouts are going strong.......very strong...im determined to squeeze every result possible outta this cycle....all or nothing.....oh and the pm questions....im 31,72 kg, and 169cm.....

Posted by: steppin-up

day five: well after that episode with the weights i am feeling like a million bucks only a quick log today, but have to say for day five i cant wait for full throttle with this cycle...wicked pumps and retention....more reps too....early days but tomorrow will only get better....no sides to speak of just a wicked focussed, freakish show with the weights...just arms today but fug me if they didnt impress me......more details tomorrow...the mrs is comenting already and i gotta go reap the rewards....lol....see ya all tomorrow....

Posted by: steppin-up

day six: well if this is going to kick into full throttle over the next few days...i cant wait....my strength has gone up slightly for sure and im definately starting to see some slight gains in size....not really seeing anything else and no sides whatsoever.....enjoying this right now as im definately at the start of something big...i expected results at about 10-14 days from other threads i have read but seems im starting a little earlier than that.....no complaints at all though.....just stoked to be on this cycle and to see what the end result will be......see you tomorrow ppl.......

Posted by: kbtoy31

good stuff even if it's only a placebo effect. it's cool knowing that u still got aways to go b4 ur over. I have heard of people feeling it this early on their 1st cycle or after taking awhile off.

Posted by: Brutus_G

Ill be tuned in man please take some before and after pics.

Posted by: steppin-up

day seven: thanks for the encouragemaent and support of the posts so far guys....before and after pics will definately be posted but im saving the best till last with that one...im thinking with this being the end of my first week i may also do a week by week pic come the end of it all....figure that way you will see more than just zero to hero....lol....anyways...much the same to report as yesterday really....slight gains in stength and if the gains in size are anything to go by im gonna be alot different to how i started....pumps are going really well and still no sides at all which is comforting as i was a little worried bout them....not into the full cycle side of things yet though...but its all good signs for now.....im surprised how easy this cycle is being on my liver really...first cycle and all, thought maybe it would be in a little shock but so far so good for anabloic innovations cycle support...seems to be going great guns......creatine is having no effect in the same regard so everything is running like clockwork.....the dose goes up tomorrow so i guess maybe then things will get interesting but until tomorrows post...take it easy guys...im doing anything but....lol......laters for now...

Posted by: steppin-up

day eight: ok...now im starting to notice gains a little more....not much but still its noticable....i have gained about 1.5 kilo since starting, seems that the stregth gain has hit a plateau for the time being...im thinking this is the point where i just gotta keep pushing hard and once the line is crossed there will be no looking back...all muscle groups are definately getting alot harder and tighter than before and nice and lean and constantly pumped....alot fuller than before when i used to work out so im thinking i made the right choice for the results i wanted...all round very happy with the progress....seeing as im taking the weekend off with the mrs im not really sure if ill post at all...im playing that one by ear but i will say if i notice any significant change in any way...ill be posting it....im a day ahead of most ppl who are following this thread so....ill see the folks in the us on sunday as thats my monday....lmao....see you in the future....

Posted by: kbtoy31

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Originally Posted by steppin-up

day eight: ok...now im starting to notice gains a little more....not much but still its noticable....i have gained about 1.5 kilo since starting, seems that the stregth gain has hit a plateau for the time being...im thinking this is the point where i just gotta keep pushing hard and once the line is crossed there will be no looking back...all muscle groups are definately getting alot harder and tighter than before and nice and lean and constantly pumped....alot fuller than before when i used to work out so im thinking i made the right choice for the results i wanted...all round very happy with the progress....seeing as im taking the weekend off with the mrs im not really sure if ill post at all...im playing that one by ear but i will say if i notice any significant change in any way...ill be posting it....im a day ahead of most ppl who are following this thread so....ill see the folks in the us on sunday as thats my monday....lmao....see you in the future....

ehh ur not that far ahead where I'm at. About 14 hours ahead of me. Anyways I say this week coming up ur gonna notice the strength gains. And u should start putting on like a lb a day I would think( about a kilo a day) At least until the end of week 3 I've heard they pretty much stop then. being ur first time tho it might be a little more ya know. I lookin forward to ur gains since ur about the same height and weight as me I'm hoping we'll see about the same gains. Although they say different strokes for different folks. I have a feeling it should be getting better when u get back to lifting.

Posted by: steppin-up

day nine......well the window is open for the effects to start taking place....i think you are right on the money kb bro.....once i get back to lifting next week im expecting some strength results and some weight also.....i have also rethought my work ethic with this second week and instead of taking 2 days off.....except cardio for 45 mins tomorrow im gonna do mon, tues, day off...then thurs,fri....with light lifting and cardio saturday and see how that feels.....

Posted by: steppin-up

lmao.....fuggin wasnt done posting....so then sunday off.....anyways...that was all i really had to add.....im super stoked to see how next week goes and if i start packing on weight like you rekon kb...im gonna be all smiles...anyways...see ya tomorrow maybe but prob monday....

Posted by: kbtoy31

yea thats cool just relax this weekend. I think that would be good. What like upper body mon./ lower body tues./ wed. off/ then upper/ lower again?? Then like u said maybe a little cardio Sat. and maybe dips push-ups. Sh1t like that? I wouldn't go too hard on Saturday maybe just body weight stuff. You need time to recover too. But I don't see any reason not to work hard u should recover faster. Whatever works brother.

Posted by: llllern

Cel makes a good SD clone no doubt I gained 15 lbs on my last run

Also try S-Drol from FastAction

Posted by: kbtoy31

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Originally Posted by llllern

Cel makes a good SD clone no doubt I gained 15 lbs on my last run

Also try S-Drol from FastAction

Damn thats nice 15lbs. I'm not trying to knock Fast action or anything but I've heard that it's not as good as CEL, that the purity is to varied. I'm just wary that's all and I'd rather stick with a company that posts all their testing results of the different batches. I just got some P-plex that tested over their dosage levels stated on the label. Supposed to be 15 mgs and it tested out at 19.5 mgs per capsule. Plus I counted my M-drol capsules and had 95 in there if thats not a good company then I don't know what is. Very generous and it's testing out higher that's good stuff!

. Now I'm not saying Fast action's stuff isn't good i've just heard a lot of good stuff about CEL over Fast action.

Posted by: steppin-up

day ten: ok ppl....sunday the day of rest....lmao.....ok im weighing in at 72.5kg..(159.8 lbs)...definately bulked up the arms this week but not much else anywhere but thats cool as i didnt expect anything for the first week...so im pleasantly surprised....looking forward to gains in strength and size for this coming week and will be posting lifting stats everyother day from here on....will have to countthe caps in my bottle now as im slack and just thought i looked about right....lol.....if i can put on 15 lbs from this point i will be happy.....

Posted by: mw1

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Originally Posted by kbtoy31

. Now I'm not saying Fast action's stuff isn't good i've just heard a lot of good stuff about CEL over Fast action.

AWESOME post!!!!

But if you ever look into Fast action products give illlern a shout, he's a great rep. We miss him

Posted by: llllern

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Originally Posted by kbtoy31

. Now I'm not saying Fast action's stuff isn't good i've just heard a lot of good stuff about CEL over Fast action.

lol they cant even count

Posted by: llllern

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Originally Posted by mw1

AWESOME post!!!!

But if you ever look into Fast action products give illlern a shout, he's a great rep. We miss him

lol

Posted by: steppin-up

well here we are now on day eleven and back to the lifting.....on my way to the gym...will post report later on....feeling good today although i have had a couple of headaches....couple of neurofen and they were gone....so when it comes to CEL...so far sides are nothing worth mentioning.....

Posted by: kbtoy31

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Originally Posted by steppin-up

well here we are now on day eleven and back to the lifting.....on my way to the gym...will post report later on....feeling good today although i have had a couple of headaches....couple of neurofen and they were gone....so when it comes to CEL...so far sides are nothing worth mentioning.....

Damn what time in the morning do u work out? Like 5 in the morning?

Posted by: steppin-up

lmao....yeah mate, i get up at 4 everyday and work out for like an hour before i go to work.....

Posted by: steppin-up

ok day eleven.....arms.....workout went as follows:
Standing Barbell Curls …….56.5lbs…….8 reps x 5 sets
Standing Dumbbell Curls….55lbs…….8 reps x 5 sets
Dumbbell Hammer Curls….33lbs…….8 reps x 5 sets
Preacher Curls….50lbs……8 reps x 5 sets
Dumbbell Concentration Curls….20lbs…..8 reps x 5 sets
Lying Barbell Extensions….45lbs……8 reps x 5 sets
Tricep Dumbbell Kick Backs…..22lbs……8 reps x 5 sets
Reverse Curls….45lbs……8 reps x 5 sets......
...............now i know alot of you guys will think that i aint doing much but with me being alot smaller than most at only 160 lbs.....its all i got ok...lol...besides.....im expecting this to go up a bit this week with the m-drol kicking in so we shal see...id also like to point out that we work in kilos here in australia so please understand that i have given the nearest weight in lbs as i can with out typing....55.30124548124545454354304305435435435bl ah blah blah......at least i took the time to try for you guys lol......anyways....chest this afternoon...so ill let you know how it goes....until then......smell ya later.....i dunno.....just feeling a bit fruity today....hahaha

Posted by: steppin-up

update, fuggin ouch!!! back pumps put paid to any ideas i had about doing chest this arvo so L-taurine has been incorporated into the routine....im doing 5grams pwo and 5 after.....any ideas on the best way to administer?.....im all ears......

Posted by: mw1

I usually take the taurine at 2g - 3 times a day. Sometimes i would take a fourth time. Hopefully you will get rid of them quickly!

Posted by: steppin-up

day twelve: well what a fucking shit day!!!!.....nothing to do with back pumps or m-drol though, on my way to the gym and wrote off my car cause a fuckin mammoth roo (kangaroo for all you non aussie folk reading), decided to jump in front of me.....not happy at all....i dont ahre steve irwins passion for the native wildlife lets just say that.....anyways....ill try the taurine at 2g three times and see how it goes on the back pumps...drinking alot more water today as well....anyways......i have not worked out today as i have been getting towed,billed and pissed off with things outta my control....lmao......definately had no probs with aggression?!!!?....ok...seriouslt though...homw work outs from here on till the car prob gets worked out...not happy about it in the slightest but hey what can ya do?.....feeling good today other than the car drama.....tomorrow will be a worthwhile post...sorry for those of you following this....today was a write off in every sense.....unless you are a tow truck driver or insurance salesman....lol...see you tomorrow with something worthwhile....

Posted by: kbtoy31

that's so funny I could never picture just driving down the road and having a f'ing kangaroo jump out in front of me, unless it escaped from the zoo or something. We got plenty of deer where I'm at tho' and I've hit one of them suckers with my car b4. yea that sux, but ya can't do anything to control life. shi1t happens.

Posted by: Brutus_G

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Originally Posted by kbtoy31

that's so funny I could never picture just driving down the road and having a f'ing kangaroo jump out in front of me, unless it escaped from the zoo or something. We got plenty of deer where I'm at tho' and I've hit one of them suckers with my car b4. yea that sux, but ya can't do anything to control life. shi1t happens.

I guess they are like our deer lol. Good posts steppin up keep us updated! I plan on trying this stuff in about 6-10 weeks.

Posted by: steppin-up

day thirteen: ok here comes the turbo charged bit me thinks...feeling fucking awesome.....strength has defiantely got better and my pumps are going through the roof.......filling out alot more and getting alot harder...quality results for the effort i am putting in.....focus is pin point...which is normally hard as at the moment im working at home....cant say enough good things about this stuff.....wanted to stack it to begin with as wasnt sure it would get me what i wanted as a stand alone but that theory has been thrown out the window...ordered more today as i aint missing the boat on this stuff....already planning the next cycle...lol......unleash the fuggin beast......CEL I FUCKING LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: kbtoy31

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Originally Posted by steppin-up

day thirteen: ok here comes the turbo charged bit me thinks...feeling fucking awesome.....strength has defiantely got better and my pumps are going through the roof.......filling out alot more and getting alot harder...quality results for the effort i am putting in.....focus is pin point...which is normally hard as at the moment im working at home....cant say enough good things about this stuff.....wanted to stack it to begin with as wasnt sure it would get me what i wanted as a stand alone but that theory has been thrown out the window...ordered more today as i aint missing the boat on this stuff....already planning the next cycle...lol......unleash the fuggin beast......CEL I FUCKING LOVE YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

yup there u go brother. It's kickin in on ya. Have u weighed urself lately? Have u gone up any?

Posted by: steppin-up

sure have bro....im up 4 kg.....woohoo!!!!

Posted by: kbtoy31

WOW! damn 8 lbs in 2 weeks ain't bad. How's everything else going for ya? Strength increasing nicely? Yea about 2 weeks I should be starting. I may start a week early but IDK yet. I def. can't wait but I want everything to go right too ya know brother. Oh, have you had any problems with lethargy thats pretty much my major concern b/c I have problems with being tired halfway through the day anyway. I've thought about getting up and working out early in the morning to help with it but you're a better man than me getting up so damn early. I don't know if I could get my lazy ass out of the bed.

Posted by: steppin-up

day fourteen/fifteen: both these days have been rest days...and well desreved too...im weighing in at 76.5kg now and all sets have gone up by a minimum of two...strength is through the roof and focus is strict and crisp...i think alot of this has to do with the results im now seeing and feeling....pumps are going insane....with the workouts going this way i have so much more desire to push myself and we all know that this coupled with sets going to new heights just makes you wanna see how far we can push...this is why i did this cycle and i have definately got the 70kg monkey off my back......woohoo....fuggin stoked on how insane this stuff is....great to see that i have alot of ppl following this thread too...thanks for the support guys...i gotta go to sydney for a week unexpectedly for work training....and i dont got internet there...so this post will be dead for a few days but i wil be writting a log while im away and posting these next 5 days when i get back.....sorry guys but priorities have dictated this....still should make even better reading when i get back....kb bro....good to hear you are getting started soon...if you go half as good as i have so far you gonna be impressed bro.....this stuff is fuggin awesome.....take care guys...catch ya in 5 days with some crazy shit to report....

Posted by: llllern

looking good man

Posted by: kbtoy31

yup def lookin good. How's you're eating habits been? Have you been putting more food down? Yea soon I'll be getting down with ya.

Posted by: mw1

Sounds good ----and it will get even better. Get in a high amount of carbs.

Posted by: steppin-up

day sixteen - day twenty two: woohoo!!!!!!!!!!! well saving the best for last is definately the case with this stuff...im heading into week four after pretty much having a week off the weights...i was worried that things would go backwards with no real input aside from the m-drol and the regular supps, but i am pleasantly surprised to find i have just kept it all and even added a further 2 kilos to my overall weight.....as i mentioned earlier in this thread i was tossing up if i would up my daily dose to 30 mg depending on the sides involved.....i am so gunning for the best and the sides have been mild to non existant(thank you anabolic innovations cycle support),the back pumps have all but gone thanks to taurine dosing......im going for broke...so the last week is going to be 30mg a day and ill see where im gonna be in a week...but i can tell you that alot of things have gone totally beyond all expectations....strength is off the charts.....pumps are insane and solid, clean, fuller, simply put....better than i could have hoped for.....weight is steadily increasing although the second through to third week were just silly....i had to check the scales were working a few times to fathom the gains....all in all its been an amazing journey so far and i still got a week left to go.....this is most definately a cycle that im gonna do again.....as for the lethargy side of things....i aint really got too much to say except that it hasnt really effected me much at all..i have had my days of being pretty shattered, but there is no way i can attribute that solely to the m-drol...bear in mind that i have just finished a 56 hour week of working my fuggin ass off....lol...but hey we are all different....for me the worst thing i can say is the back pumps were ugly when they kicked my ass but they been done and dusted and the pro's have made any cons obsolete to the point where im planning to cycle this again......i cant speak highly enough of cel m-drol.....my advice to anybody thinking of doing this or maybe looking into another superdrol clone...is listen to the ppl who have done it....cel are by far the superior producer of this clone, im sure others are equal, but i aint wasting time testing out others.......as they say....'if it aint broke...don't fix it'........

Posted by: kbtoy31

^^ damn I was wondering what happened I knew u had to go off for work but I thought u would of been back by now. That so sux tho' that u couldn't lift the whole one week. Yea that was my main concern was the Lethargy. I have a pretty physical job and I can't be draggin ass all day ya know. I got 2 more days and I'm off to the races. I think i pretty much got everything I need. I 'm thinking about pickin up DHEA just in case I do get lethargic and I should be good. I'm glad you still got what u wanted out of this cycle bro'

Posted by: steppin-up

day twenty three: well all is going beyond well for me and i am far more than impressed....cant say im feeling a huge difference in the new dosing but the scales dont lie and im still going up....i weigh in every morning before i shower eat or basically do anything to keep the scales as true as possible....at 77 kilo roght now and it seems each workout is putting on around half a kg to a full kg so that is motivating me to go harder still....kb bro.....the lethargy shouldnt be a problem as i know you think of every option to get the most out of yourself.....will be good to compare end results bro.....

Posted by: kbtoy31

Hell yeah. Tomorrow is the day. I'm excited I know it won't be kickin in on me till about 1-2 weeks in but when it does oh boy! That's what's up man I'm glad you didn't get any problems at all. I've heard that cycle support works wonders tho'. I've put on a little weight in the past couple weeks just upping my calories. I'm getting a little soft around the edges but when it comes time for PCT I'm hoping to change all that. Need to look good in time for summer. I'm about 79Kg myself now so if I can be about 84 to 86kg's I'll be happy. Thats about 190lbs for my American brethren. Then after PCT if I lose a couple kilo's it'll be good b/c then it'll just be body fat b/c I'm gonna change my routine during PCT so I don't notice all the strength I lose and specifically to lose the BF. B/C right now my abs have pretty much gone away but I knew that when I started to bulk up. Def. gaining muscle. Kinda makes me not want to start yet so I can gain a little more naturally but I got a concert to go to in June so I'm gonna be drinking that day and I'm def. not doing a methyl and drinking too. Yea I'm just going over a couple more things printing my dosage schedule up. I'm thinking I'm gonna go 10/20/20. And I just need to pick my DHEA up but I'm thinking of waiting just to see if it does make me tired 1st don't wanna waste $$ if I don't have too. And I'm gonna pick up some Taurine def. Looking good tho brother are u running it a full 30 days?

Posted by: steppin-up

yeah mate im going to run the ful 30 days.....go hard or go home for me and the sides dont rate a mention in comparision to the results....so yeah im looking good for the 30 days and upping to the 30mg p/d.....hope it helps after the week off.....support supps have def helped out heaps in the sides area...as i was worried about them, but they never really came into play and with a tweek here and there they were gone as quick as they came so i couldnt be happier.....hope you get the same kinda kick as i did come week two bro.....are you gonna post before and after pics?

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