Look what I found in T-mag:
(someone reports from the conference):
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Scientists from Australia presented their work comparing a whey isolate vs. casein through resistance training on strength, body comp, and plasma glutamine. Thirteen subjects were given either 100% whey isolate or casein protein (1.5 gm/kg body weight/day) and were simultaneously under the careful eye of researchers who supervised each workout three days/week.
Interestingly, this group found that the 100% whey isolate was more effective at increasing muscle mass (~ 5 kg over 10 weeks) vs. the casein group who gained < 1 kg over the same time period. The whey group was also more effective at increasing strength and decreasing fat mass compared to the casein group. Both proteins seemed to prevent the typical decrease in plasma glutamine levels that are common with exercise (15). These results surprise me as they stand in stark contrast to other whey/casein studies; however, it is what it is and all research should be taken with a grain of salt.
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I believe the previous study was done with hydrolyzates of casein and whey. Hydrolyzed whey won. Maybe this is the important thing - take hydrolyzed casein, but "whole" whey?
Posted by: Mudge
Too bad they don't give us more information, when and how much was taken etc
From 1-5kg though is a huge difference in body weight change, definately not a close outcome.
Posted by: Dr. Pain
Slon, welcome to IM!
Glad you came over!
DP
Posted by: Slon
Thanks Dr. Pain!
I'm glad I found this place - and y'all are here!
Posted by: Testosterone
I personally have had excellent results with Whey Isolate (Early Morning & Post-Workout) + Miceller Casein (Afternoon & Bedtime)
Like I said, both are superb proteins but each has its own importance.
Thats why lately, I've been using Milk Protein Isolate (Biotest GROW) which contains both Casein & Whey Fractions....best of both worlds.
Posted by: Monolith
omfg, not another one.
Prince, give me the ban stick. I have work to do.
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2002 people...
Posted by: PreMier
Originally Posted by Monolith
omfg, not another one.
Prince, give me the ban stick. I have work to do.
It never ends...
Posted by: Pirate!
Originally Posted by PreMier
It never ends...
Maybe he will loan you the ban stick for giving his product a great review on bulknutrition.com
Posted by: PreMier
I gave it a good review, because it worked for me. WTF is your problem?
Posted by: P-funk
Originally Posted by PreMier
I gave it a good review, because it worked for me. WTF is your problem?
Hey freak show, which product did ya try?
Posted by: P-funk
Oh....lol, there is only one product so far.
Posted by: squanto
this makes sense to me, as casein is slower burning and whey is so quick. so whey doesnt fill the subjects up, allowing more food intake. unfortunately, not enough info is given to form a complete opinion. (more lab facts). interesting debate though. as mudge says, its definately not a close call.
Originally Posted by Monolith
