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Originally Posted by Gazhole
I know nothing about steroids, but i know enough to say that you have a lot of natural progress you can make with training and nutrition before you even think about anabolics.
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Originally Posted by Gazhole
I know nothing about steroids, but i know enough to say that you have a lot of natural progress you can make with training and nutrition before you even think about anabolics.
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Originally Posted by Bdue
I'm at a plateau were I want to increase my size then what I could naturaly
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Originally Posted by Gazhole
1 - Eat more. Manage your diet carefully, count calories, and cut out some of the bad stuff.
2 - Completely re-vamp your training program. Most people have got both things completely wrong, or have let their training stagnate to the point where they cant gain from it. Their body has adapted. The thing is, steroids arent a magical mass producing miracle. When youre on a cycle you need to be even more dedicated to nutrition and training, eat a hell of a lot more (sometimes a few thousand calories more) and cleanly at that, and lift more intensely than ever before. If you cant put on mass without them, you dont have a good chance of keeping mass with them, but you'll waste your money and risk damaging your body or at least stalling any progress you would have made. Its good you have a goal and the enthusiam to want to make it happen, but redirect that energy into figuring out whats wrong with your current situation before adding something else to worry about. Go have a look at the diet + training forums here at IM, theres more info than you can shake a stick at. |
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Originally Posted by Bdue
That's alot of good info. But I'm 100% sure about anabolics and I'm already on a cycle of test 350
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Originally Posted by workingatit43
No question you still have alot of natural growing you could do i would stay away from the anabolics
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Originally Posted by Built
Um, Bdue -
You can't seriously think AAS will make you bigger! Honey, that part's FOOD. FOOD makes you bigger. The AAS just direct calorie traffic toward muscle via increased protein synthesis. But they still need the calories to do this. Think about it - what does your entire cycle weigh - a few ounces? This is going to pack slabs of MEAT on you? How? If you can't gain weight, it's your diet. Now, if you can gain weight but you can't gain any more muscle - where any more food you eat simply gets stored as fat - THAT is where AAS come in. |
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Originally Posted by Bdue
Gaining weight is not my problem. I can do that pretty easy. Im not really cut but Im plateud at gaining muscle mass. Im wanting to get more cut and and more muscle. Im a pre-pharm student so im not to ignorant on carb and calorie loading. I have data analyzed my entire diet over the past year and have came with a pretty sturdy diet. My diet is based on a 3900 to 4300 calorie diet a day. My protein intake is around 300 to 400 grams of protein a day. My liquid intake is about 2 1/2 gallons. Im keeping my electrolytes balanced with my ratio of proteins and water intake so that i do not flush my system. My workouts are no walk in the park either.
All im asking for is help with cycling anabolics..... Im ready to take this to the next step. I just took my 5th shot of test 350 about an hour ago at 1.5 cc. Im wanting to take d-bol, maybe deca, and not sure about the PCT since this is my first cycle. |
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Originally Posted by Bdue
well being located in WV seems I'm fucked cause I can't find many people who I can get stufffrom. I have read of clomid and thought of running it for 4 weeks but I don't know how many mg up take or were to get it.
having taken my fith shot last night I feel pretty good. I don't seem to see any sides. And I have seen some improvement in strength and weight I have gained about 5 lbs. I do not know which sites are legit and if the steroid sites are for real. |
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Originally Posted by dg806
I call BS on the diet part. You say you eat 4K+ cal and 3-400 g of protein. Do you know how much food that is??? IF you can't gain weight and muscle on that, something is bad wrong. I doubt your diet is up to par or training.
Sorry if this sounds negative, but I've seen it hundreds of times. There is ALWAYS room for improvement in diet and training. And that is where the secret is, not steriods. Anyone that has taken them and has any size on them will tell you the same thing. |
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Originally Posted by dg806
5 shots is about 2 1/2 weeks right? It takes 4-5 weeks for Test E to even kick in.
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Originally Posted by dg806
5 shots is about 2 1/2 weeks right? It takes 4-5 weeks for Test E to even kick in.
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Originally Posted by Bdue
Not to be a jerk but you have not seen my food layout. Im taking several nutrition classes and im sure the nutritional analysis is not wrong. I said I did not have trouble gaining weight but muscle mass in the places i wanted it. I want to gain more muscle in my pectoral region. And get more ripped. Thats why im turning to anabolics.
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Originally Posted by Bdue
No 5 shots is 5 weeks. 1 shot a week at 1.5 cc. Im doing a pyramid. Its test 350 not 200. Im really starting to see results now, I can see a huge difference in performance wise.
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Originally Posted by Bdue
At least I was told to take 1 shot a week pyramid. Remember this is my first cycle also. So im still learning.
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Originally Posted by dg806
I would also not pyramid. Stay at the dose you want until the end of your cycle and start pc.
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Originally Posted by dg806
If you can gain weight, you can gain muscle. You can't gain muscle on a restricted diet, at least it is hard. You really have to pack the calories in to gain muscle even with steriods. The anabolics along will do nothing if the food/calories are not there. Why don't you start logging what you eat in a day and we can give it a look.
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