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Posted by: modi-fied

hey guys, newbie here. I'm 28 years old, 5'9'', 150lbs, i've been working out for a year and half, spends 4-5 days in the gym weekly, strict diet. I was originally 130-135lbs before i started working out and gained about 15lbs in this time period. Never took any anabolics, steroids or anything other than protein shakes and energy drinks. For the past 2 months, I haven't gained any weight and not getting any stronger so ive decided to get some help and found this site. I've read many posts about sticking to correct diet and not taking any anabolics until 2-3 years after working out but its very frustrating to see no muscle gains and increase of strength for the past 2 months working out in the gym, im doing the same thing over and over with no gains and it just feels like a waste of time and effort. So after 5 hours of reading this site, i'm leaning towards buying h-drol. Would this be a good product to start?

Posted by: Gazhole

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Originally Posted by modi-fied

hey guys, newbie here. I'm 28 years old, 5'9'', 150lbs, i've been working out for a year and half, spends 4-5 days in the gym weekly, strict diet. I was originally 130-135lbs before i started working out and gained about 15lbs in this time period. Never took any anabolics, steroids or anything other than protein shakes and energy drinks. For the past 2 months, I haven't gained any weight and not getting any stronger so ive decided to get some help and found this site. I've read many posts about sticking to correct diet and not taking any anabolics until 2-3 years after working out but its very frustrating to see no muscle gains and increase of strength for the past 2 months working out in the gym, im doing the same thing over and over with no gains and it just feels like a waste of time and effort. So after 5 hours of reading this site, i'm leaning towards buying h-drol. Would this be a good product to start?

This is your problem - you're doing the same thing all the time. You need to periodize your training so that you provide a fresh stimulus for muscle gain. Your body has obviously adapted to what you're doing in the gym so its time to sort that out.

Take a look at the training section and the stickied threads in there on how to put together a decent program.

At your height and weight you have a hell of a lot of natural growing left in you before you need anabolics. Im only an inch taller than you and i've gotten up to 190-195 naturally, so you've got a lot of potential to fulfill before steroids

Hope that helps. I know its frustrating, but the problem more than often lies in training and diet rather than the lack of supplements or drugs.

Posted by: Irons77

Good advice just change things up for a while. I like to change my routine every 6-8 weeks.

Posted by: llllern

change rutine as noted above if nothin in 4-6 weeks then Try H-Drol ( FastAction HDrol) lol but really see what a good change will do 1st

Posted by: modi-fied

i guess that's really the answers what i was looking for... I wasn't sure if i was doing things right, i mean in the beginning, i was gaining steadily and until mostly, im just seeing any gains or increase in strengths. I will will try a different routine, thanks for the advice!

Posted by: workingatit43

A change in routine will work wonders and if after a while your still wanting to run a anabolic h-drol would be a good choice good luck bro

Posted by: dg806

Why expect something in 2 months that takes years to do? That is the problem with people.....they don't want to have to work for it.

Posted by: Built

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Originally Posted by modi-fied

hey guys, newbie here. I'm 28 years old, 5'9'', 150lbs, i've been working out for a year and half, spends 4-5 days in the gym weekly, strict diet. I was originally 130-135lbs before i started working out and gained about 15lbs in this time period. Never took any anabolics, steroids or anything other than protein shakes and energy drinks. For the past 2 months, I haven't gained any weight and not getting any stronger so ive decided to get some help and found this site. I've read many posts about sticking to correct diet and not taking any anabolics until 2-3 years after working out but its very frustrating to see no muscle gains and increase of strength for the past 2 months working out in the gym, im doing the same thing over and over with no gains and it just feels like a waste of time and effort. So after 5 hours of reading this site, i'm leaning towards buying h-drol. Would this be a good product to start?

Goofy question from the resident gurl, but humour me. Why do you think you're not gaining weight?

Posted by: Pirate!

I assume this is a joke.

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Originally Posted by llllern

change rutine as noted above if nothin in 4-6 weeks then Try H-Drol ( FastAction HDrol) lol but really see what a good change will do 1st

You don't need H-Drol. The problem is your routine and diet. Fix those and skip the hormones.

Posted by: dreadhead01

Just as it was said before, change it up some. I would change it up ever week or two. Have something set out for two months, plan A and plan B. Have a different routine for each week in plan and plan B. Switch back and forth, 1 month plan A, the next plan B, this should keep the gains coming for you.

If you do want to put on some extra gains of muscle quicker, add more protien, 2 to 3 grams of protien for every pound per day. Also, increase your Cal intake. You can also take a Tredulus product, they have some good ones, they help more then people claim they will. 3 years after I started lifting I was completely against roids, I just grabed some tribulus test boosters, any GNC would have something like T-Bomb 2, its not the best one, but its cheap, and it works, you will notice gains, they will be nothing like taking a PH or Roid, but you'll notice some gains, and you don't have to shut your natrual test off to get it ether, you can take the tribulus products all you want.

Also, what exactly do you want? Are you just trying to pack on some more muscle right now? Cut up? I may be able to answer you better if you defined more what you wanted.
Jered

Posted by: Built

dread, don't get me wrong, I eat a lot of protein, but there's no reason to increase protein THAT much. Simply increasing fats will do the trick to boost calories. And the trib, heh, it's cheap, but there's no evidence to suggest it will increase gains. None. I checked. If YOU want to take it, go ahead, but it doesn't boost test. Anything that does will shut down endogenous production. The fact that it does not should tell you something.

Posted by: dreadhead01

I'm just saying what has worked for me, and I am a biig dude, 6 foot 10 and about 320 pounds. I know a lot of people that have used the Trib, most of them have gotten some what good gains, better then without it anyway. without working out a proper diet needs about 1 gram of protien per pound, for a normal diet, if your working out, it should be doubled. I am not going to post advice if it has not worked for me, or for someone else here.
Jered

Posted by: KelJu

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Originally Posted by dreadhead01

I'm just saying what has worked for me, and I am a biig dude, 6 foot 10 and about 320 pounds. I know a lot of people that have used the Trib, most of them have gotten some what good gains, better then without it anyway. without working out a proper diet needs about 1 gram of protien per pound, for a normal diet, if your working out, it should be doubled. I am not going to post advice if it has not worked for me, or for someone else here.
Jered

Sorry bud, but you are way off. There is no way in hell I am taking 480g of protein in a day. I make excellent gains taking in a 1/3 of that, and I'm not special. A gram per pound is usually more than enough.

Also, tribulus doesn't boost test. All controlled studies have shown Tribulus to be completely ineffective at boosting test levels. If you want something to boost test levels, use prohormones or anabolic steroids. Otherwise, you are just flushing your money down the drain.

So, I don't know. Maybe you are getting increased performance from placebo or something, but it sure ain't the trib and high protein.

Posted by: KelJu

By the way, modi-fied, you really need to spend some time reading the stickies in the diet and nutrition forum. You need to design a good diet plan, then you need to post it so knowledgeable people can critique it.

Posted by: dreadhead01

I'm only posting what has worked for me and others. Trib may not be proven as in raising the test, but it has been proven to give you gains, how it does it is not the point, the point is that it can help a bit. Sure, PH and Anabolics will, I'm just giving him idea's that may help.

Posted by: KelJu

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Originally Posted by dreadhead01

I'm only posting what has worked for me and others. Trib may not be proven as in raising the test, but it has been proven to give you gains, how it does it is not the point, the point is that it can help a bit. Sure, PH and Anabolics will, I'm just giving him idea's that may help.

How something works is the point. People who don't understand the fundamental aspects of basic nutrition and resistance training end up spreading misinformation and confusing the hell out of people trying to improve their lives.

Here is a good study.

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The effects of Tribulus terrestris on body composition and exercise performance in resistance-trained males.

Antonio J, Uelmen J, Rodriguez R, Earnest C.

Human Performance Laboratory, University of Nebraska, Kearney, NE 68849-3101, USA.

The purpose of this study was to determine the effects of the herbal preparation Tribulus terrestris (tribulus) on body composition and exercise performance in resistance-trained males. Fifteen subjects were randomly assigned to a placebo or tribulus (3.21 mg per kg body weight daily) group. Body weight, body composition, maximal strength, dietary intake, and mood states were determined before and after an 8-week exercise (periodized resistance training) and supplementation period. There were no changes in body weight, percentage fat, total body water, dietary intake, or mood states in either group. Muscle endurance (determined by the maximal number of repetitions at 100-200% of body weight) increased for the bench and leg press exercises in the placebo group (p <.05; bench press +/-28.4%, leg press +/-28.6%), while the tribulus group experienced an increase in leg press strength only (bench press +/-3.1%, not significant; leg press +/-28.6%, p <.05). Supplementation with tribulus does not enhance body composition or exercise performance in resistance-trained males.

Tribulus doesn't do shit for body recomposition. However, it does help with low libido and ED. These are the facts, not my opinion of whether I believe something works.

Posted by: Getbig82

umm your body only can break down 30g protein per meal so unless you have more hours in the day than all of us or like pissing out money than your down the wrong track dread. Mod have you circuit trained, super set monster set , or pyramidization because your body does platuea you also need to brm and right calorie intake and organize what you eat in a day and find a program you can shift around to help you get to the goal you want

Posted by: Getbig82

sorry said that wrong find out your brm and right calorie intake

Posted by: Getbig82

than if that doesnt work for a year get your test levels checked

Posted by: Built

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Originally Posted by Getbig82

umm your body only can break down 30g protein per meal so unless you have more hours in the day than all of us or like pissing out money than your down the wrong track dread. Mod have you circuit trained, super set monster set , or pyramidization because your body does platuea you also need to brm and right calorie intake and organize what you eat in a day and find a program you can shift around to help you get to the goal you want

You got proof of that one getbig?

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