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I read through much of that, but I couldn't find a date for when this will go into effect, or is this just a proposal?
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I read through much of that, but I couldn't find a date for when this will go into effect, or is this just a proposal?
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It's just a proposal... It will be later this year before anything happens
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whats going to be left that are similar to these that are proven to work and not just a fancy name and label?
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yeah things someone has used or things like that. instead of a placebo. i know there is a lot of test boosters out there that really do not do anything. so whats going to be out after alot of these are banned. hope that makes more sense.
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I should have left it alone, but I told him he was experiencing placbo and showed him the study I posted. |
My friend got pissed at me yesterday because he saw where I was posting in the a thread about tribulus, and he started telling me about how it boosted his test levels and gave him the hardest pumps ever.
I should have left it alone, but I told him he was experiencing placbo and showed him the study I posted. I just got pissed off and defensive. "I fuckign know when somethig nworks cause I feel it working". He really got pissed when I replyed to that comment with "yeah, and placebo groups taking sugar pills say the say damn thing, so who do you believe: science or people? So it all ended with "Fuck you man, I know it works, I don't give a shit what studies you find". Its no wonder its so fucking hard to figure out what works and what doesn't when marketing dictates who affective a product is and not actual case studies. |
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Its no wonder its so fucking hard to figure out what works and what doesn't when marketing dictates who affective a product is and not actual case studies. |
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what is your point? all I am saying is there is no testing or science behind all of the "pro-hormones" that are being put out on the market today, I am not saying they don't work, I am just saying they are not proven as was being said above, very few supplements have actual scientific studies behind them, the most studied supplement is creatine.
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the vida text is some proof that these work, and thats where all of these come from.
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they arent banning any really good ones, (except phera), so there will be plenty left. its a half assed ban if you ask me.
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can anyone shed some light on the ids ripped tabs? how well do they work, and what results to they typically deliver? I'm interested in possibly trying them. Thanks!
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