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Originally posted by Prince All American athletes care about one thing! MONEY period. it disgusts me too.  fuck em all. |
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Originally posted by coleman First off, I am Australian, so that automatically makes me tough! |
| Originally posted by coleman I watched a game of NFL on pay tv over here and I couldn't believe how much friggin armour they were wearing!! If the sport is meant to be a test of which team is the toughest and strongest and most skillful, why do they need so much padding that they probably can't even feel it when they get crunched??? It isn't as if all those guys running into each other from about a metre apart are going to get up to any speed which helmets would be required for! |
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Originally posted by Stickboy Well, Aussies are tough, no doubt about it. |
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Originally posted by Prince All American athletes care about one thing! MONEY period. it disgusts me too. fuck em all. |
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Originally posted by coleman So, why are American footballers such wusses? |
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Originally posted by Stickboy Well, Aussies are tough, no doubt about it. After all, they eat Vegamite don't they? Here's how to fix the delima. Have one of your rugby teams play our football teams. First a game of american football, then a game of rugby. We'll wear our uniform (helmet, pads, etc.) and you guys will wear yours (shirt, shorts), and then we'll see how many from each side are standing after the second game. The team with the most wins
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2. If you cant feel the hits through all that "american" pading then santa clause is real and im rudolph the red nosed reigndeer.- defense.. shit im a wussey amercan football player and i dont want to play full intensity without pads...|
Originally posted by TriZZle305 only people with super huge egos are dumb enough to play like that in no pads and risk their lives and careers every time they step onto the field... |
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Originally posted by kuso I that that is a bs comment.....thats the way the game is played....you know what they say, if it too hot, stay outta the kitchen and go to McDonalds.....
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gladdly... ill take a number three super size with an Oreo Mc Flurry well i can just as easily say that the "why are american footballers so wussey" comment is a bs comment..... thats the way the game is played..... goes both ways
... strolls back into the kitchen after having lunch at Mcdonalds
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Originally posted by TriZZle305 ok here mine goes... from an American perpective... or at least mine.. it seems absolutley crazy to run around crashing against each other full speed without any or with only little padding,... the humman body is very hard and yet very breakable when put in those conditions... HOWEVER it is very entertaining to watch... |
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Originally posted by TriZZle305 ok here mine goes... from an American perpective... or at least mine.. it seems absolutley crazy to run around crashing against each other full speed without any or with only little padding,... the humman body is very hard and yet very breakable when put in those conditions... HOWEVER it is very entertaining to watch... i dunno about the babying part ive never played PRO football but i know in Highschool football there is NO BABYING WHATSOEVER lol... i do think most american athletes are money hungry to |
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Originally posted by kuso I`m not sure which kinda league you were watching, but I just checked out the Wallabies site and there were and awful lot of guys on there between 255 and 265lb..................I have no idea the sizes in American Footy, but I would guess that they could go higher because of the padding
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Originally posted by Captain You gotta be kidding me Coleman! The Crocodile Hunter is the only badass to ever come out of Australia!!!
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Originally posted by KataMaStEr Those words make me puke…
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Originally posted by bigss75 I know all you rugby fans are going to be pissed off when I say this but rugby does not have better athletes than the NFL I mean how many guys in rugby run 4.2 40s or squat 600 pounds or have really high verticals. I am sure there are some but not near as many compared to the NFL. |
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Originally posted by Prince so, you disagree with what I said? |
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Originally posted by coleman for bigss75, that stuff about verticals is nonsense...they have lineouts in union where 2 metre tall players jumping so frigging high in the air it ain't funny. |
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Originally posted by coleman No-one will ever win this argument, but do you reckon you americans could look outside of your own country for sports for a change? NFL and Baseball are peanuts on a global scale. Rugby union World cup is the third largest event in the world! Second to soccer world cup and olympics. |
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Originally posted by KataMaStEr Yes completely. There is probably a few that are in for the money but hey they have a gift that not everyone has as an athlete. If you making money out of your carrier wonderful easy money, getting paid for something you love. But is not like all they are in for is the money.
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Originally posted by kuso none of those things are needed to kick ass on the field.......those who`s position require it I`m sure probably could, but in Australia, we don`t get caught up in statistics.....just who kicks ass, and who doesn`t............I guess it`s just a different way of looking at sports too. |
| Originally posted by coleman He is a blocker, and he says the fowards in union have it easier than those that play grid iron, but that backs have it much much tougher. They have to clear there own path, not have someone running in front of them doing all the hard work. |
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Originally posted by mark bigss75 is right, football hits are higher impact, and there are more people hitting each play. Rugby is more demanding in the endurance aspect. No time outs and far fewer sub.s, no two platoon system. |
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Originally posted by Mudge They have to wear the pads here for their run times, dont know how much thier gear weighs/gets in the way though. |
youre contradicting yourself... unless your "obviously already looking outside your country for other sports" to try and ridicule or try to belittle them... that aside.... i gotta agree with bigss if we're talkin about endurance the soccer players definately have the number 1 spot on the badass list ... with that being said it looks like rugby isnt number 1 in any of the categories weve talked about speed/endurance- soccer(maybe not all speed but i think so) strength-football agility-maybe tenis (somebody give me something else soccer?) hard hits- football and biggest sports event rugby gets 3rd.... maybe this thread kindof backfired but its still a good thread
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Originally posted by TriZZle305 speed/endurance- soccer(maybe not all speed but i think so) agility-maybe tenis |
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Originally posted by KataMaStEr Hey buddy, want to spend some time here in FL with full pads/full contact under the sun for a week? I wish I had some money I would pay for you ticket and also for some of you “tough” Australian friend without thinking in over for a fifth of a sec. Boy you sure don’t have any idea what your talking about. |
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Originally posted by Pazza I wish i had some money so i could bring you over to Australia and see you play dummy half in a rugby league team! These men play 80 minutes, make up to 30-40 tackles a game, they weigh about 187 pounds and they have to tackle players up to 264 pounds!(1) You don't see 2 players of such different sizes meet in a gridiron game! One of the great dummy halves was Geoff Toovey, his weight was 164 pounds! He was so tough people would say that Geoff would stick his head most people wouldn't put their feet! At the end of the day Rugby players are the tougher than Gridiron players. Gridiron players play no more than 30 seconds at a time! In Rugby the game flows and players must keep their heart rate higher for longer periods of time! (2)In gridiron the hard hits don't even hurt! All the pads cancel out any sort of pain or solid contact! In rugby it is nothing but solid bone and muscle pushed into all places of the body by several players. I bet none of you gridiron players out there have had a shoulder or knee in the face!!!!!! now that is pain! (3)Gridiron none of the players are multi-skilled! Sure some can Squat heaps and some can run the 40 very quick! But what gridiron players can do both?????? NONE(apart form maybe runningback)! There are different players for every skill! Players can't even attack and defend!! There is a player just for kicking!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can't quaterbacks kick? In rugby players need to be multi-skilled. You must beable to attack and defend! Kick and pass! All players must beable to run more than 10 meters! Gridiron is just slow and Boring! Just one last thing! AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI |
first of all what the hell do you think a sack is.... deffensive lineman weigh from 250 to 300 and a quarter back rarely is above 200(yes there are a few but generally speaking) 2nd of all number 2 is an assumtion.. and when you assume you make and ASS out of U and ME... if it doesnt hurt to get hit with pads on id love to see you in pads get hit by a strong safety running at you full speed and i want you to just stand there, because since you have pads it wont hurt a bit right?? and last number 3... again bullshit... all of the players aside from MAYBE lineman can run the 40 quickly or else they wouldnt be able to play pro... and there are several oppurtunities for players to show off other skills needed for the game... half back pass for example... or an interception or fumble recovery.. the deffense becomes the offense and the offense becomes the deffense...
i love the statistics i couldnt find anything to really proove how much harder we hit thankyou... great post.. imagine what those stats would be like if we played football with no pads... it would be ridiculous they would probably disban the sport or something
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Originally posted by TriZZle305 i love the statistics i couldnt find anything to really proove how much harder we hit thankyou... great post.. imagine what those stats would be like if we played football with no pads... it would be ridiculous they would probably disban the sport or something
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Originally posted by coleman What a load of bollocks. It is because grid iron is a fuqed game that no-one else plays it. If you think the US is the only country that produces qulaity athletes, then it shows how ignorant you are to the rest of the world's athletic champions. I am not just talking about grid iron v rugby. Grid iron means shit all to the rest of the world. If it was a game which required skill then the rest of the world's althletes would take up the challenge. Instead, grid iron is one of two sports where you are considered an athlete if you are a fat shit just getting in the way (the other being sumo wrestling). You get four chances to go 10 yards, you get a rest every time some company wants to try and rip the audience off, you have padding and a helmet (not to metnion the guy blocking for you) when all you need is a decent sidestep, you suck at defence??? no worries, you can have a rest and someone else will have a go for you, and yet you still call it skillful! |
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Originally posted by coleman Hey Chest Rockwell, Maybe when I am fully grown eh. I am still 17, buddy. Already I am 6 foot 1 and 230 pounds. Don't go quoting statistics all over the place unless they actually mean something. You forget Australia only has a population of 19 million compared to your like 270 million. So any figure you give has to be divided by 14 before you can even begin to compare. So, if 4 players diead in 1989 then that means that only .2857 players diead over here...so you can't just say because you have more injuries that it is tougher. And most of the deaths would be freak accidents anyway, not because of any extra skill in the game! If rugby is as easy as you say then why is it that of the hundreds of thousands playing the sport, hardly ever get anywhere near an elite level. Why is it that Americans are the only country that play grid iron? Because they aren't tough enough to accept the challenge that is rugby! They are the only country that needs to wear padding to protect themsevles while everyone else relies on their own body and skill to avoid being crunched. |
"HAHAHALOL @ AUSSIE IGNORANCE" 1st of all what the hell fo you mean any figure of deaths we have has to be divided by 14... everyone in the population of america doesnt play football lol.. that made very little sense at all.. if america is the only country that plays football then what the fuq is NFL Europe??? yet another dumbass remark
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Originally posted by coleman What a load of bollocks. It is because grid iron is a fuqed game that no-one else plays it. If you think the US is the only country that produces qulaity athletes, then it shows how ignorant you are to the rest of the world's athletic champions. I am not just talking about grid iron v rugby. Grid iron means shit all to the rest of the world. If it was a game which required skill then the rest of the world's althletes would take up the challenge. Instead, grid iron is one of two sports where you are considered an athlete if you are a fat shit just getting in the way (the other being sumo wrestling). You get four chances to go 10 yards, you get a rest every time some company wants to try and rip the audience off, you have padding and a helmet (not to metnion the guy blocking for you) when all you need is a decent sidestep, you suck at defence??? no worries, you can have a rest and someone else will have a go for you, and yet you still call it skillful! |
i just wish you could just come play... im not trying to take anything away from rugby because im not ignorant like you and i know it is also a tough sport as far as endurance goes and everything... but just look at your comments... they are uneducated and just plain stupid. if the rest of the worlds had such athletic players then when are you guyz going to win some basketball olympics... and how many olympic medals have austrailia won compared to the rest of the world vs america to the rest of the worlds.... if you are questioning america's athletes you are completely out of line... ignorance is such a horrible disease i hope you get cured or grow out of it or something...
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Originally posted by TriZZle305 Well chest rockwell we have some noisy aussies here and they wont seem to stop makin such bullshit remarks "HAHAHALOL @ AUSSIE IGNORANCE"
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Originally posted by kuso Dude.....I thought we had all come to the understanding that none of us are going to agree with each other a page ago, but you wanna talk ignorance, go back and read chesters last couple of posts.....give me a fucking break please
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Originally posted by Pazza These men play 80 minutes, make up to 30-40 tackles a game, they weigh about 187 pounds and they have to tackle players up to 264 pounds! |
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Originally posted by Pazza All the pads cancel out any sort of pain or solid contact! |
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Originally posted by Pazza Just one last thing! AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE OI OI OI |
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Originally posted by coleman Why is it that Americans are the only country that play grid iron? Because they aren't tough enough to accept the challenge that is rugby! . |
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Originally posted by coleman They are the only country that needs to wear padding to protect themsevles while everyone else relies on their own body and skill to avoid being crunched. |
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Originally posted by coleman it shows how ignorant you are to the rest of the world's athletic champions |
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Originally posted by Pazza In gridiron the hard hits don't even hurt! All the pads cancel out any sort of pain or solid contact! |
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Originally posted by bigss75 Have u ever played football? I think u are as dumb as dirt. I have broken every finger on my left hand dislocated my right shoulder, and had 2 concussions. And the pads cancel out the pain no f-ing way u think u rugby badasses are top dog.U can play without pads but no way in hell u will ever hit as hard as a football player. Guys let everything go. I have been hit by guys that your jaw would shake. I know guys that have been hit so hard that they were choking on their mouth piece. Some people should learn their facts before u say anything. |
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Originally posted by kuso Now can we all have a little maturity here and agree not to agree??
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Originally posted by coleman Hooray for kuso's comment. |
like i said hypocricy... youre one of the main ones hes reffering to... along with me pazza chest bigs and kata however i never tried to discredit rugby and thats what you and pazza were doing with football.... in football people get their helmet knocked off and thats when the knee in the face comes... plus thew facemask hitting you in the fact and you getting whiplash..... you sayin the hits dont hurt in football is ridiculous... im sure they hurt in rugby too but like someone said earlier its like comparin apples and oranges almost
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Originally posted by kuso I would happily close it, but it must be a mod from this forum. |
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