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Posted by: flame_bringer

Ok im 19 years old almost 20 and this is the first time i attempt to try anabolic steroids.
What i got in hand at the moment is .. primobolan/Somatroph HGH (SDI lab product )/and preparing for a testesteron needle ( one shoot before i start my cycle ) and im looking forward to stack something else with this im having dbol in mind as my main intention is to bulk up out of this cycle so do u guys think that the stack that im about to use is approrpiate ?and is it ok if i included dbol at the end of the cycle to boost up my strength and get bloated a bit ?



Posted by: lucifuge

bad idea.
SDI labs = fake
20 years old + steroids = stupid
prioritizing you arms for the next 5 weeks (from your other thread) = stupid
your knowledge concerning anabolics use = zero

step back and use the search button at the top of the page.
read, learn ,train, eat, grow



Posted by: flame_bringer

Thats why i asked here because my knowledge isnt that much about anabolic steroids thats the first time i attempt using it and u could just tell me whats wrong with the stack and correct anything wrong and i dont think that 20 years old is young for steroids ,please say something beneficial rather than flamming like that cuz seriously your response didnt do me any good ,



Posted by: lucifuge

I didn't flame you... I considered doing so, but no, I didn't flame you.
Like I said, SDI labs are scammers... they're products are not steroids. It's junk, you might as well throw it in the garbage.

You mention one test shot 'before' you start your cycle... that's a bit confusing...I'm assuming that you mean the cycle of the SDI snake oil... I'm also assuming the 'dbol' you are referring to is also made by SDI labs, which is once again, junk...

As for being 20 years old, yes it actually is young for steroids. Right now your body is producing a shitload of natural testosterone (well, unless you have some sort of undisclosed endocrine problem, but if that were the case, you'd be talking to a doc, not us). There's not much point in putting more testosterone in your body. Your test production is at it's peak man, use it!!!

In a few more years it'll start dropping off, then it might be the time to start looking at anabolics... seriously for now just learn to train and eat properly,do some searches and learn about anabolics and what they do to your body. Learn about PCT... (betcha never even heard of that before have ya?).
You're looking at messing with some pretty important stuff here, don't jump into it half assed.



Posted by: flame_bringer

The dbol im getting is the real one not the SDI labs one and so is the same with primobolan cuz i cant afford an SDI labs one just thought of the somatrooph HGH because so many people acclaimed it for me.
I may drop the idea of testesteron shot , but yea i guess i purchased the stuff already its too late to step back except for the needle and the Dbol.
What do i do now ? should i just use the HGH and the primobolan alone or should i stack with Dbol ? forget about the testeteron needle i may not be taking this.



Posted by: lucifuge

from the stickies....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pirate! View Post
1. Lack of General Steroid Education: what you don't know
can hurt you! You need to know what certain types of
steroids do, how to stack and cycle for max results with
minimum risks, injection procedures (you CAN kill yourself
if you don't do this correctly) etc. You need to know the
dangers and how to take steroids safely.

2. Listening to the Wrong Advice: You cannot take anyones
advice without reasearching yoursefl from a reliable source
of information (like this site). Knowledge is Power.
Therefore, one must read as much as possible, gather all
available information, then ask as many questions as
possible. Whatever you do, just don't take advice from the
first guy that comes along.

3. Starting Steroid Use Too Young: This can cause numerous
problems not only physically but mentally, since most 18-20
year olds are not mature enough to handle the elevated test
levels and ignore the media hype of "roid rage", and
physically you can damage permanently growth plates and HPTA

4. Using Counterfeits: Counterfeit steroids are a bigger
problem than you would believe, there are more counterfeit
steroids in the market than you would think. These steroids
offer no positive gains, and some give the side effects of
real steroids. Taking counterfeit steroids is like injecting
poison into your body, bad effects nothing positive.

5. Using Excessive Dosages: When taking steroids, the more
you take is not always the best way to go. Taking excessive
dosages has become a huge problem with steroids today. It
isn't only dangerous, but studies have shown it to be
ineffective. The body can only use a limited amount of the
steroid so the extra is turned into estrogen by the body.

6. Staying On Steroids Too Long: In several cases, steroid
users avoid waring signs telling them not to go on a cycle
more than 8 to 12 weeks without an off period. If an off
period is not taken, there is a higher chance for the
negative effects of steroids to occur. If there is no off
period the body does not have a chance to recover from the
steroids, so more damage is done. This also is terrible for
the kidneys and liver.

7. Eating Poorly: Many people ignore magazines and educators
that explain eating as being an important asset to growing,
but the truth is, eating healthy has a big effect on the
body. When on steroids the user must comsume between 4000
and 7000 calories a day, not meaning eat only fat foods. The
diet must be high in calories and protein, but low in fat.

8. Training Incorrectly: When on steroids the training must
be intense and difficult. Instead of the usual weight that
suits you, you must do excess weight and strenuous work for
the best gains. The workout should involve the maximum
weight possible, and make progress each time.

9. Not Getting Regular Blood Tests: Steroids are very
dangerous and can cause great problems. Blood tests should
be done often and regularly. When steroids are first taken
many tests become elevated but will return to normal with in
a few weeks. During the off period tests should also be done
to make sure the body is recovering properly. If there is a
problem with the Blood test, consult a doctor that you can
trust.

10. Using The Wrong Steroids: Many athletes will increase
their chances of getting negative effects when they take the
wrong steroids. The strongest steroids that build more
muscle mass, have the most side effects. These drugs should
be avoided if possible, unless there is a reason to have an
unbelievable gain. But these drugs are very toxic and we
would recommend not taking them.

11. Not Learning How To Hold On To Your Gains Without
Steroids: Unless you learn how to do this you will never
achieve true long term gains and run the risk of becoming a
"non-stop user".

12. Improper Injection Procedures: This is so important that
it CANNOT be skipped over, the risks of injecting without
knowledge are massive, we personally know of a kid who
nearly killed himself injecting steroids intravenously!

13. Lack Of Preparation and Planning: Not being fully
prepared and having everything you need before you start
your cycle. Not being sure you have time set aside to train
correctly, prepare food, rest etc. Without careful planning
and preparation you will achieve very little. Poor storage
in the home, gym, or where-ever. Poor cycle stacking. Poor
anti-estrogen choices.

14. Starting On Gear For the Wrong Reasons: Because your
friends are doign them. Because you think everyone else in
your gym is on. Thinking that if you use AAS you don't have
to work as hard to gain quality muscle, not thinking about
the consequences before you start, once you start you can
never go back! Being willing to accept the risks associated.
Don't bow to peer pressure, it's your health and your life.

15. Not Being Physically Ready to Start Steroids: Steroids
are not magic, they are the icing on the cake and starting
on them without first having a basic training foundation is
dangerous.

16. Neglecting Personal Security: Not using secure and
discreet online tactics when ordering. Not being security
concious when ordering or researching steroids online
(unencrypted email communications, unsecure websites, not
cleaning your online "footprints", not thinking that the
authorities won't go after the "little guy" as well).
Talking loosely about your steroid use.

17. Sacrificing Overall Health: It's not just about pure
muscle gains, don't forget cardio vascular health,
flexibility, internal organs, muscles, ligaments, testicles,
mental health (steroid obesession - don't let steroids
affect your life and relationships) etc. Thinking that
because your "big" and ripped, that you're actually
functionally strong. Focusing only on "showbiz" mucles and
not on supporting, under-lying ones.

Author: Dr. No
like I said, read and learn my friend



Posted by: flame_bringer

then what do i do now with the stuff i purchased cant just throw them away cant u just advise me as to how to stack them properly i'd really appreciate that sort of help.



Posted by: lucifuge

Quote:
Originally Posted by flame_bringer View Post
then what do i do now with the stuff i purchased cant just throw them away cant u just advise me as to how to stack them properly i'd really appreciate that sort of help.
stick them in a closet until you know more about this stuff.
for instance, I'm assuming the primo is pill form intead of injectable... if that's the case then along with the dianabol is two orals which will be hell on your liver...
what do you know about liver support and pct?



Posted by: flame_bringer

Yes the primo and the dbol would be pill form and im gonna be using antobiotics for liver intoxication and the endrogenic effects of them .
However i did not purchase neither the dbol and nor its antibiotics waiting for some advice that confirms that its suitable to be stacked with primobolan.if its still so much load on the liver then maybe i would just use the primo and the sdi labs HGH alone .
But yea like you said im keeping them in the fridge till i figure out the right way of using them thats why im here on this forum .



Posted by: lucifuge

Quote:
Originally Posted by flame_bringer View Post
But yea like you said im keeping them in the fridge till i figure out the right way of using them thats why im here on this forum .

look around, there's tons on information floating around here.



Posted by: KelJu

You are playing with fire. You really need to do a lot of research. 3 years of research for me, and I am still learning new shit that I didn't know.


At 20, you don't need steroids. Plus, you really don't need to take them until you have reached, or at least come close to your natural potential. You need to know how to keep your gains after you come off. You need to have solid PCT lined up. You need to watch what you eat and keep your sodium low. You need to have blood work done before you ever stick yourself with a needle so that you know your liver functions are "a ok" before starting a cycle. You need to have cycle support in line so you don't destroy your liver.


Its your body and you will be stuck with it for the rest of your life. I would do a shit ton more research if I were you.



Posted by: Pirate!

You do not have real HGH and the primobolan.



Posted by: jwalk127

well said pirate!



Posted by: jwalk127

i know everyone else has already given you the best advice..but research, and then research some more, once you think you understand it all, then research again. these substances are powerful, and if used incorrectly are dangerous, hell even the fake shit can do some damage.



Posted by: flame_bringer

okay thnk you all but i couldnt find any infos on the sdi labs HGH and the primoblan that i have is the real one,i just figured out what are the antibiotics that should be taken so all i need to know is .. is it suitable to stack primobolan with Dbol , i really did research but could find nothing so it would be better if you guys helped me out a bit.
Sorry if im annoying or anything but i really cant just throw the sh!t i purchased away i just need someone who's experienced to help me out on how to use them , by the way im not using them till like after 3 months maybe or so untill i obtain a suffecient knowledge.



Posted by: flame_bringer

And i always consider asking in forums with knowledgable people as a part of my research.



Posted by: flame_bringer

Never mind i dropped the whole roids cycle idea and returned the primo gonna wait till i make it to 200 pounds naturally then i'll consider using steroids untill then i'll try educating myself more about the thing.
Thank you all guys for trying to help.



Posted by: KelJu

Quote:
Originally Posted by flame_bringer View Post
Never mind i dropped the whole roids cycle idea and returned the primo gonna wait till i make it to 200 pounds naturally then i'll consider using steroids untill then i'll try educating myself more about the thing.
Thank you all guys for trying to help.
Smart decision. If new questions come up while you research, and trust me they will, post them and we will try to help.



Posted by: ZECH

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Originally Posted by flame_bringer View Post
Y im gonna be using antobiotics for liver intoxication and the endrogenic effects of them .
WHAT???? OH BOY!



Posted by: ZECH

You trying to kill an infection cause your liver is drunk??



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