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Posted by: Fetusaurus Rex

What league do you play in? (ASA, USSSA...ect)

I just started playing this year, playing ASA ball could use some pointers, hitting in my only weakness but in my defense we have some shitty bats, the only composite we have is 30oz, and at 5'9 175 it is a bit heavy for me...Yes I do work out of course but still it is not the correct weight for me....

Im guessing there are some big dudes on this site who can mash! I could use some pointers on hitting the long ball with my lack of size...

anyways Im really enjoying playing and am glad I started, this is the only sport I have played in a long time and I miss this feeling of competing in something....

Let's talk softball!



Posted by: tucker01

forget hitting for distance. Make solid contact and get on base. Small ball wins games not the homerun



Posted by: min0 lee

Been playing for years. I tomahawk everything. If they are playing a 5 man infield then hit the gaps, if they are straight up then use the middle. Focus on centering the ball first, then worry about power. I walk the box I cannot stand and hit all that well, I like to adjust to the pitch. I was getting paid to play 2 summers ago, good shit. BTW-I hate ASA! Worst bats and ball there are!



Posted by: tucker01

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Originally Posted by min0 lee View Post
Been playing for years. I tomahawk everything. If they are playing a 5 man infield then hit the gaps, if they are straight up then use the middle. Focus on centering the ball first, then worry about power. I walk the box I cannot stand and hit all that well, I like to adjust to the pitch. I was getting paid to play 2 summers ago, good shit. BTW-I hate ASA! Worst bats and ball there are!
HAHA



Posted by: MCx2

LOL!! I was like



Posted by: min0 lee

Wha?



Posted by: Double D

I am lost here, leave it up to Ian.



Posted by: min0 lee

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I am lost here, leave it up to Ian.
I know, he's always screwing something up.












Posted by: largepkg

Been playing for 18 years now. I play in three leagues. One ASA, one NSA, and one USSSA. ASA is by far the worst league. Mainly due to the restricted bats and balls. They're a bunch of pussy's who are worried about getting hurt. I love the Utrip league. They're not nearly as uptight as the others.

If you're serious about getting better you can goto softballfans.com and they have a ton of info ranging from bat reviews to hitting tips etc.

In my experience the best way to become a better hitter is to go out and take BP a lot! If you can, record your sessions each time and try working on different things each session. This is going to help you out a lot more than someone trying to tell you where to stand, how to swing, hit down, hit up, etc.

Just know once you get into this it becomes addicting. Kinda like BB.



Posted by: Double D

softballfans.com is a fantastic site! Just make sure you look at the reviews of the people you buy things from.



Posted by: Fetusaurus Rex

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Originally Posted by largepkg View Post
Been playing for 18 years now. I play in three leagues. One ASA, one NSA, and one USSSA. ASA is by far the worst league. Mainly due to the restricted bats and balls. They're a bunch of pussy's who are worried about getting hurt. I love the Utrip league. They're not nearly as uptight as the others.

If you're serious about getting better you can goto softballfans.com and they have a ton of info ranging from bat reviews to hitting tips etc.

In my experience the best way to become a better hitter is to go out and take BP a lot! If you can, record your sessions each time and try working on different things each session. This is going to help you out a lot more than someone trying to tell you where to stand, how to swing, hit down, hit up, etc.

Just know once you get into this it becomes addicting. Kinda like BB.
Yea I dont hear good things about ASA but that is all I can find around here, and their new bat testing rules is going to make 08 and earlier 98mph bats sky rocket, so I just picked up a new maxload Recoil for $190 on Ebay which I hear great things about. I am a member of softballfans.com already and love that site, a lot of great info and a lot of good deals on bats I have seen



Posted by: Fetusaurus Rex

YouTube Video


what do you guys think of this?

ohhh and Im not asking how to hit the long ball exclusively, Ill hit plenty of small ball, and already do, but Im on a crappy team and no one has hit a homer yet and I feel Id be capable and am always looking for advice...

I currently do a lunging swing, step in the back of the box, wait on the ball, time it, step my front foot back shifting my weight back, and lunging forward with my swing shifting all my weight through my swing.....well that is what I try to do



Posted by: largepkg

I would love to see the proof of this! Personally I think he's out of his mind. I use a weighted sleeve to warm up prior to my first AB then don't use it any further throughout the game. In my experience, if I don't do this I'm not nearly as prepared for my first AB. Maybe it's psychological but that's what works for me.

In my ASA league they use grey dots which are 40 core 300 compression balls. These things are super mush and unless your Pujouls you're not hitting 300 ft. So in that league my swing is determined by the team we're playing. If we're playing a sub par infield I concentrate on hitting down hard on the ball (kind like an ax chop) and the ball usually takes some crazy hops. If we're playing a good team I'll shot middle. Yes, I know this is a no no but like I tell the league director, if you're going to use these restricted balls for safety and we're playing a good team they should have plenty of time to react. The pitcher's use the back rubber in this league as well so they're plenty far back to react. If it's a bad outfield I'll dink to right field until they move in and then drive one over them.

In my other leagues we use 44 core 500 compression balls and 120 bats. My swings is completely different in these leagues, although a bit unorthodox. I stand tall in the box with my left arm completely extended (I'm a righty). I do this to make sure I have full extension at impact. I'm a tall guy with a long reach so I try to maximize this for power. Without a doubt the best tip I can give you for power would be to coil prior to swinging. Once I learned how to do this effectively I added a good 30-50 ft on my ball. On top of all that you need good weight transfer, body control, and hit threw the ball.

Sorry for the long winded response, but I love this game.



Posted by: tucker01

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Originally Posted by largepkg View Post
I would love to see the proof of this! Personally I think he's out of his mind. I use a weighted sleeve to warm up prior to my first AB then don't use it any further throughout the game. In my experience, if I don't do this I'm not nearly as prepared for my first AB. Maybe it's psychological but that's what works for me.
Ditto. Any on deck swings after that, are just rhythm and repetition. I would say that is a big thing, have a consistent way you approach each at bat, a routine you follow.

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In my ASA league they use grey dots which are 40 core 300 compression balls. These things are super mush and unless your Pujouls you're not hitting 300 ft. So in that league my swing is determined by the team we're playing. If we're playing a sub par infield I concentrate on hitting down hard on the ball (kind like an ax chop) and the ball usually takes some crazy hops. If we're playing a good team I'll shot middle. Yes, I know this is a no no but like I tell the league director, if you're going to use these restricted balls for safety and we're playing a good team they should have plenty of time to react. The pitcher's use the back rubber in this league as well so they're plenty far back to react. If it's a bad outfield I'll dink to right field until they move in and then drive one over them.
I have only played in ASA leagues. My main concern is solid contact on the ground or on a line. I swing the same way every time. Catch my wheel house and I will take it for a ride, other then that I am a consistent line drive hitter. Like I said in the other thread, the mikken freak 98 is nice and so is the demarni juggernaut

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In my other leagues we use 44 core 500 compression balls and 120 bats. My swings is completely different in these leagues, although a bit unorthodox. I stand tall in the box with my left arm completely extended (I'm a righty). I do this to make sure I have full extension at impact. I'm a tall guy with a long reach so I try to maximize this for power. Without a doubt the best tip I can give you for power would be to coil prior to swinging. Once I learned how to do this effectively I added a good 30-50 ft on my ball. On top of all that you need good weight transfer, body control, and hit threw the ball.
Ditto always stand tall, however I keep my hands loose and high. Coil Prior to swinging? what like generating power from the core? Good weight transfer is a must, and loss of balance during a swing, takes power away.

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Sorry for the long winded response, but I love this game.
Gay How is your shoulder doing now post op in playing?



Posted by: largepkg

Yea, when I coil I start in the semi open position than when the pitch is about to release I keep my lower body as stationary as possible while torquing my upper body or rotating my core towards the catcher. Then release all that tension toward the ball. It's a bit tricky to get comfortable with but when going for power it works wonders.

The shoulder is now a little over four months post op. They had to rebuild the whole damn thing. I just started playing about four weeks ago. Don't tell the doc! I started playing third again last week and there's a bit of pain still there but it's significantly better than pre op. I'm SLOWLY building strength through therapy so I'm a little more confident as each week passes. Doc said it could be as long as a year before a full recovery.



Posted by: tucker01

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Originally Posted by largepkg View Post
Yea, when I coil I start in the semi open position than when the pitch is about to release I keep my lower body as stationary as possible while torquing my upper body or rotating my core towards the catcher. Then release all that tension toward the ball. It's a bit tricky to get comfortable with but when going for power it works wonders.
Ah sounds similar to me... other then that gay back arm straight out Never understood these people who take steps into the ball. Just a transfer of weight.

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The shoulder is now a little over four months post op. They had to rebuild the whole damn thing. I just started playing about four weeks ago. Don't tell the doc! I started playing third again last week and there's a bit of pain still there but it's significantly better than pre op. I'm SLOWLY building strength through therapy so I'm a little more confident as each week passes. Doc said it could be as long as a year before a full recovery.
What did you get done again? A SLAP repair? What type of tear, how many sutures did you need?

I go under the knife Oct 14th



Posted by: largepkg

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
Ah sounds similar to me... other then that gay back arm straight out Never understood these people who take steps into the ball. Just a transfer of weight.

What did you get done again? A SLAP repair? What type of tear, how many sutures did you need?

I go under the knife Oct 14th

Yea, I don't walk in the box either. I do sometimes change positions if I see an outside pitch to drive to right but other then that no foot movement at all. Also, my gay left arm and hands are kept high as well. Picture a golf swing. At the three quarter position is what my start looks like. You would think a guy my height could drive the high pitch but my perfect pitch is low and middle to inside.

Doc never gave it a name. I went in thinking it was just a mild labral tear and woke up to the anesthesiologist telling me my RC surgery went well! I started freaking out, thinking they performed the wrong procedure on me.

The doc came into the O.R. while I was challenging the anesthesiologist and told me he repaired a significant tear to the labrum as well as two complete tears to the RC. He also cleaned out the bursa which he said look like a spiders web full of shit.

I had 6 lap incisions and four anchors left in me. I light up an xray now!



Posted by: tucker01

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Originally Posted by largepkg View Post
Yea, I don't walk in the box either. I do sometimes change positions if I see an outside pitch to drive to right but other then that no foot movement at all. Also, my gay left arm and hands are kept high as well. Picture a golf swing. At the three quarter position is what my start looks like. You would think a guy my height could drive the high pitch but my perfect pitch is low and middle to inside.
Very similar


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Doc never gave it a name. I went in thinking it was just a mild labral tear and woke up to the anesthesiologist telling me my RC surgery went well! I started freaking out, thinking they performed the wrong procedure on me.

The doc came into the O.R. while I was challenging the anesthesiologist and told me he repaired a significant tear to the labrum as well as two complete tears to the RC. He also cleaned out the bursa which he said look like a spiders web full of shit.

I had 6 lap incisions and four anchors left in me. I light up an xray now!
Wow and you are back playing already? That is a very significant repair. I assume you got a nerve block. How was the first bit? any recommendations?



Posted by: largepkg

Yea, I had no clue what to expect going in and the anesthesiologist came in to see me pre op and said he was going to jab this needle into my neck. I politely said only if I can kick you in your balls first. Good thing he had a sense of humor. That was the nerve block. Within 10 minutes my arm was no longer part of my body.

Coming out of the OR and for the better part of the day I had zero pain. Then the nerve block wore off. The arm was immobilized (in a sling) for 2 days. The doc had me doing mild circular rotations with the arm hanging a couple of times each day. I had a shit ton of pain but that was more from the RC repair than the labrum. They gave me a sit down machine that you strap your arm into at a 45 and it lifts the arm to a set degree than back down and repeats this for the set time. I did this for 30 minutes 3 times a day.

After about 3 weeks I had pretty good flexibility with little pain unless I did something stupid. PT was just basic ROM for the first 4 weeks then the hand bike 3 time per week. I started my own PT with a friend who has his master in PT after that.



Posted by: tucker01

You never know... once you were knocked out maybe he made you lick his balls.

Significant improvement? Of course you are going to have pain.... everything I have read said no throwing till at least six months. And atleast a year for close to full recovery



Posted by: largepkg

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Originally Posted by IainDaniel View Post
You never know... once you were knocked out maybe he made you lick his balls.

Significant improvement? Of course you are going to have pain.... everything I have read said no throwing till at least six months. And atleast a year for close to full recovery
Yea, I was never really good at following directions.



Posted by: Fetusaurus Rex

Quote:
Originally Posted by largepkg View Post
I would love to see the proof of this! Personally I think he's out of his mind. I use a weighted sleeve to warm up prior to my first AB then don't use it any further throughout the game. In my experience, if I don't do this I'm not nearly as prepared for my first AB. Maybe it's psychological but that's what works for me.

In my ASA league they use grey dots which are 40 core 300 compression balls. These things are super mush and unless your Pujouls you're not hitting 300 ft. So in that league my swing is determined by the team we're playing. If we're playing a sub par infield I concentrate on hitting down hard on the ball (kind like an ax chop) and the ball usually takes some crazy hops. If we're playing a good team I'll shot middle. Yes, I know this is a no no but like I tell the league director, if you're going to use these restricted balls for safety and we're playing a good team they should have plenty of time to react. The pitcher's use the back rubber in this league as well so they're plenty far back to react. If it's a bad outfield I'll dink to right field until they move in and then drive one over them.

In my other leagues we use 44 core 500 compression balls and 120 bats. My swings is completely different in these leagues, although a bit unorthodox. I stand tall in the box with my left arm completely extended (I'm a righty). I do this to make sure I have full extension at impact. I'm a tall guy with a long reach so I try to maximize this for power. Without a doubt the best tip I can give you for power would be to coil prior to swinging. Once I learned how to do this effectively I added a good 30-50 ft on my ball. On top of all that you need good weight transfer, body control, and hit threw the ball.

Sorry for the long winded response, but I love this game.
Yea that video didnt make a lot of sense to me either, I remember little league using a donut and it felt great swinging the bat after that, I felt like I was producing more bat speed, and again you are right even if it is just a mental thing that is half the battle....

We use the Dudley Thunder Heat 44 375 I believe, I was thinking of picking up a Demarini F375 those go pretty cheap on Ebay, and I hear it is a great bat for mush balls, not sure if the Thunder Heat is a mush ball, but I always hear the Dudley name come up when people are talking mush balls....



Posted by: largepkg

It's not a horrible ball. It's a pretty standard ASA ball. The 300 core's are complete mush.

Aluminum bats are much better for mush balls. I still use my Demarini double wall in my ASA league!



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