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Trying out some M Drol

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Posted by: smaggy

This will be my first cycle. I've decide to go with M Drol, after quite a bit of research and study. I know, of course, that being methylated, is going to effect the liver a bit more, but I'm willing to take the risk due to inavalibility of injectables. My starting stats and cycle are as follows:
Years of PL Training: 3ish. I say ish, because my job interferes with year round training.
Age: 26
Weight: 175 cut to 165 to compete
Height: 68"
(lifts are RAW)
SQ: 325 with wraps, probably 315 w/o
BP: 237 touch & go, 215 competition pause
DL: 415

pre-load: liv-support, milk thistle, and CoQ10, Multi vit
cycle: 10/20/20/maybe another 20, depending on sides
red yeast rice, CoQ10, Niacin, Multi vit
PCT: Tamox: 50/50/25/25, liv-support, milk thistle, red yeast rice CoQ10, Niacin, Multi vit
I plan on an increased caloric factor. Using a weight gainer to aid in between meals.
My goals are to increase lean body mass( some fat gain is alright with me), and put some more weight on the bar.
I plan on starting cycle, Oct 19th.
I'll keep training and cycle updates posted.
Constructive critisism is welcome. Thanks guys.

Posted by: Pirate!

Looks like a solid plan to me. You might want a stimulant or pre-workout cocktail in case of lethargy.

Posted by: kicka19

BP is pretty low for your weight and hieght

Posted by: smaggy

I'll keep that in mind, when I start the cycle. Hopefully, this being my first go at it, lethargy won't play too much of a factor, but we'll see. I know my bench needs some work. It's obviously my weakest link, but by RAW standards, I'm still a class II competitor. Hoping to break 1000 total, and possibly bump up to class I. I could sit here and b/s you, but what's the point in that. btw, if there's a 300+ 165 RAW bencher out there that's not competing in a fed, he's f'ing crazy. #'s don't mean shit w/o 3 whites. Sorry if I ranted a bit.

Posted by: workingatit43

IMO I would start with a less harsh compound for a 1st cycle.

Posted by: smaggy

Yeah, I thought about it for quite a while. I was back and forth with H or M drol. I've already got all my stuff ready to go. Like I said, if I'm susceptibe to the sides, I'll cut it off at 3 weeks. Hopefully it won't be a problem.

Posted by: ZECH

If you are going to run it, use cycle support.......
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support

Posted by: kicka19

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Originally Posted by smaggy

I'll keep that in mind, when I start the cycle. Hopefully, this being my first go at it, lethargy won't play too much of a factor, but we'll see. I know my bench needs some work. It's obviously my weakest link, but by RAW standards, I'm still a class II competitor. Hoping to break 1000 total, and possibly bump up to class I. I could sit here and b/s you, but what's the point in that. btw, if there's a 300+ 165 RAW bencher out there that's not competing in a fed, he's f'ing crazy. #'s don't mean shit w/o 3 whites. Sorry if I ranted a bit.

not to brag buuuuuut. 185lb and 390bp, hahah, had to brag

Posted by: smaggy

Nice. What's your total, and what fed do compete in? Or are you the BB type?

Posted by: kicka19

check your PM

Posted by: workingatit43

May want some taurine for possible pumps. IMO I would not run Nolva that high 40/40/20/20. Good luck bro.

Posted by: smaggy

Yea, I have some taurine on order. I figured back pumps might be a concern, since my lower back/spinal erectors get pretty tight on heavy DL days. I alternate DL/SQ every other week. I was kind of basing my nolva dosing off of reading that the implied dose of the research chem product, being lower than it actually is. Maybe I'm f'd up. I'd hate to screw up my PCT and have this first run be a waste.

Posted by: smaggy

Started pre-loading today. I'm getting pretty amped about going on cycle next week. I just hope to get some bang for my buck.

Posted by: workingatit43

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Originally Posted by smaggy

Started pre-loading today. I'm getting pretty amped about going on cycle next week. I just hope to get some bang for my buck.

Good luck bro.

Posted by: zombul

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Originally Posted by smaggy

Started pre-loading today. I'm getting pretty amped about going on cycle next week. I just hope to get some bang for my buck.

I think you'll really like MDrol. Good luck .

Posted by: steelhorse

lets us know what your results are

Posted by: smaggy

Thanks for the good words fellas. I'll definitely be posting results along with dosing and PCT. Probably not much diet info, because I don't have micronutrients really dialed in. I'll just be trying to meet a high calorie demand for gains.
Today was ME Bench: 155x5, 175x4, 195x3, 205x2, 240x1(PR!), 250x0
Bent Rows: 115+end of bar(135ish) x22, x20
Tricep extensions: 80x14, x12
Arnold Press: 40x10, x7
Hanging Pikes: 18, 6 abs just failed me on 2nd set

My training goes like this: Mon: ME bench, Tues: ME SQ, Thur: DE bench assistance, Fri: DE SQ assistance. Every other week swap DL for SQ. Every 2 weeks assistance movements change, but ME stays the same. This will carry me out to Jan, then my job will once again take me away from traing for 4 or so months.

Posted by: smaggy

Tues:ME SQ: 225x5, 250x4, 275x3, 295x2, 315x1
Pull throughs: 140 cable (will use B&G bands next time due to inadequate loading) x25, x25
Romanian Split Squats: 70x12, x12
Ham Curls: 60x17, x13

Posted by: smaggy

day 2 so far 10mg ED. Started yesterday finally. Had a PR on the bench @250 for a single. Also bumped up warm up weights by 10 lbs each. Increased all weights and reps on assistance work. Probably some placebo effect going on, but not sure. I know I felt good in the gym. I hope this shit does it's job.

Posted by: smaggy

day 3 10 mg. DL day! I pulled 385, my current gym PR, so pretty happy with that. I missed 375 2 weeks ago. The dreaded back pump wasn't too bad, but only day 3. I really want to bump up to 20 already, but I'll probably wait a bit. Maybe Friday or Saturday. So far so good.

Posted by: workingatit43

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Originally Posted by smaggy

day 3 10 mg. DL day! I pulled 385, my current gym PR, so pretty happy with that. I missed 375 2 weeks ago. The dreaded back pump wasn't too bad, but only day 3. I really want to bump up to 20 already, but I'll probably wait a bit. Maybe Friday or Saturday. So far so good.

Wait at least 1 full week before bumping it up. More is not always better.

Posted by: smaggy

Eh, I guess I'll wait. Today is an off day for training. I think maybe next week, my training partner and I discussed adding a "just arms" day for the hell of it in Wednesday. We'll see how that goes.

Posted by: workingatit43

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Originally Posted by smaggy

Eh, I guess I'll wait. Today is an off day for training. I think maybe next week, my training partner and I discussed adding a "just arms" day for the hell of it in Wednesday. We'll see how that goes.

Good luck bro.

Posted by: smaggy

Upper body assistance today. I felt real good in the gym. The pumps are fairly intense, but I am taking taurine at 2 g's a day, so I assume that is helping. I guess the pumps could be worse without it. I'm horny as a bull, but the lethargy is definitely noticeable. I've had to nap almost everyday in the afternoon. I'm looking forward to next week's ME bench and squat.

Posted by: smaggy

Another decent day in the gym. But damn! I thought everybody was just being bitches about the lethargy. I guess I was wrong. I haven't been this tired in a good while. It kind of sucks. My appetite isn't quite up to par either. I just hope the pay off is worth it.

Posted by: zombul

Hope you get to see alot of PR's and yeah the pumps and lethargy can be a bitch!!!!!

Posted by: smaggy

OK, what the fuck. I'm a bit discouraged. I mean, last week everything went up in the gym. 1RM's and volume work, significantly. This week, day one, failed at 260 on the bench, after nailing 250 last week. Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit, but I was pissed. I haven't really gained any weight either. I've been eating a lot. bkfst: bagel w/cream cheese, eggs, milk; shake or snack; lunch: meat, veggy, bread; shake or snack; dinner same as lunch; protein shake before bed. Afternoon shake/post workout shake is weight gainer 500 cal. Again, maybe I'm getting a little anxious. Any words of wisdom?

Posted by: MCx2

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Originally Posted by smaggy

OK, what the fuck. I'm a bit discouraged. I mean, last week everything went up in the gym. 1RM's and volume work, significantly. This week, day one, failed at 260 on the bench, after nailing 250 last week. Maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit, but I was pissed. I haven't really gained any weight either. I've been eating a lot. bkfst: bagel w/cream cheese, eggs, milk; shake or snack; lunch: meat, veggy, bread; shake or snack; dinner same as lunch; protein shake before bed. Afternoon shake/post workout shake is weight gainer 500 cal. Again, maybe I'm getting a little anxious. Any words of wisdom?

How many days are you into it? I was kinda shocked you were seeing results at just a few days to be honest.

Posted by: smaggy

This is day 8. I started last Sunday at 10mg ED, and started 20mg ED yesterday. I was surprised also. Maybe a little placebo effect going on, not real sure. This is my first time trying anything methylated. I've never even tried a PH. From what I understand, the 2nd and 3rd weeks are the best, but only on a 3 week cycle? Maybe I'm expecting too much. It just seems that Mdrol works pretty well, based on other user's anectodal evidence.

Posted by: workingatit43

M-drol kicks in a little faster than some of the others.

Posted by: smaggy

OK. I think I should've started at 20mg ED from the beginning. Who knows, but I do know that I squatted 352 today! Fuck yeah. That's a 25lb PR for this guy. Damn, I was fired up. I guess that kind of makes up for my let down yesterday. Maybe my bench is a training issue. Whatever, I feel fucking good today!

Posted by: smaggy

Maybe I was fibbing a bit about weight gain. When I started this log, I was 175 2 weeks out from cycle. I gained about 5 lbs those 2 weeks just due to calorie surplus and training. I had been kind of trying to maintain 175 to meet my job requirements. Now, in the morning (dry) I'm about 182 +/-1lbs and at night (wet) about 186 +/-1 lbs. So I guess in 9 days I've gained about 3-5 lbs. Hopefully over the next 11-18 days the mass will come. I guess it will have to come quick. I've read where people have gained anywhere from 15-25 lbs. That shit just seems crazy to me. I was hoping for a 15ish lb gain and keeping 10 of it after PCT. We'll see I guess.

Posted by: smaggy

Well, I got some more weight gain. I played touch football with some guys some work on thursday, and then did some bench and back work immediately following. My legs were overtrained from tuesday, so I took friday off. So I pretty much just sat around and ate a lot, and it worked. I stepped on the scale this morning at 193! Holy shit, that's the most I've ever weighed in my life. I kind of have a hard time believing it. I'm pretty stoked. Weird thing though, my fucking feet are swollen. I've never had that either. I guess, come to find out, it is a common side of test. I never read about it until now. Strange.

Posted by: biggfly

I know that the Original AX Superdrol was a carb hungry beast...meaning to really gain on it, one had to pound down the carbs. Not sure if this M-Drol is the same, but being a clone I would assume such.

Posted by: smaggy

I hit 262 on bench today. That's a 25 lb increase from my previous PR. Felt real strong today. My parnter hit 407! That was a lifetime PR for him. He's pretty big, about 275+. This is his 3rd week of H drol. It's working out pretty well for him. Tomorrow's DL day. Hoping to hit 405+. We'll see how that goes.

Posted by: smaggy

Hell yeah! Hit 407 today on DL. It was fast. I didn't think it would come up that quick. I tried 437 and got it off the ground but that was about it. I've exceeded my goal of 1000 lbs. 352, 262, 407, 1021! Fuckin' A.

Posted by: beschutzer29579

Any updates?

Posted by: smaggy

Yeah. This is my second week of pct. Decided not to go 4 weeks of mdrol. The back pumps sucked pretty bad and my weight gain had tapered off. I haven't lost any of my gains so far. I'm about 190 right now. I put on a considerable amount of size in inches. I'm pretty happy. Decided to do just 20/20/20 of tamox. Maybe a fourth week at 20. 40 seemed to make my stomach hurt. Dropped to 20 and was fine. Libido seems a bit low, but nothing I can't manage. So far it's been great. The only bad side was the back pumps, oh and shoulder pumps. Other than that, I was very satisfied. I would recommend it.

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