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Originally Posted by EvolutionSik
Is it healthy? or what elce should i take that don't put on weight?
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Originally Posted by chobby192
Just curious, can guys tell me why it is not healthy to take whey protein to meet my protein requirement?
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Originally Posted by workhard1
I am pretty sure it has to do with the fact that it is not a COMPLETE protein. I could be totally wrong about this but I do believe actual food has all the essential Amino's while Whey is missing some. Hopefully someone else can clarify though in case I am wrong
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Originally Posted by chobby192
Just curious, can guys tell me why it is not healthy to take whey protein to meet my protein requirement?
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Originally Posted by workhard1
I am pretty sure it has to do with the fact that it is not a COMPLETE protein. I could be totally wrong about this but I do believe actual food has all the essential Amino's while Whey is missing some. Hopefully someone else can clarify though in case I am wrong
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Originally Posted by chobby192
Just curious, can guys tell me why it is not healthy to take whey protein to meet my protein requirement?
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Originally Posted by Ben dur
it is perfectly healthy to use whey to help you meet your protein requirements...
that is after all one of the reason we all take it... the question was whether it would be healthy to LIVE on them they lack some basic requirements vitamins fiber fats minerals etc |
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Originally Posted by Merkaba
You need to try to get your protein from lean meats. Hell by the time you add some milk or something to it its the same or close to the calories of lean chicken or tuna. Meat is already working muscle, it has lots of things in it that you already need. Whey is a supplement....SUPPLEMENT...something you use to help complete a bigger picture.
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Originally Posted by Lmoraes
But what if you take whey protein and a dietry supplement like ANIMAL PAK to get vitamins fiber fats minerals etc.
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Originally Posted by EvolutionSik
Is it healthy? or what elce should i take that don't put on weight?
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). Even though your question is extremely stupid I would think someone of even mimimal intelgence would be hard pressed to kill themselves via whey overdose. Good luck!!| Rabbit starvation, also referred to as protein poisoning, is a form of acute malnutrition caused by excess consumption of any lean meat (e.g., rabbit) coupled with a lack of other sources of nutrients usually in combination with other stressors, such as severe cold or dry environment. Symptoms include diarrhea, headache, fatigue, low blood pressure and heart rate, and a vague discomfort and hunger that can only be satisfied by consumption of fat or carbohydrates....The ammonia released during the process of converting amino acids into glucose cannot be cleared by conversion to urea unless enough water is consumed to void it. The buildup of ammonia or urea is poisonous. |
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Originally Posted by EvolutionSik
Is it healthy? or what elce should i take that don't put on weight?
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| ok, how about whey protein to satisfy greater than 75% of your PROTEIN intake? I mean, it's a complete protein, isolate has 0 fat and practically no cholesterol, and it's easier than cooking. OK, I'm not talking about doing this every day, but you can't tell me there's some days you just don't feel like cooking, so you whip up a protein shake and have some fruit or whatever with it right? |
| in fact, isn't it healthier to consume whey protein for protein intake than say an equal amount of chicken (which really has no nutrition to speak of other than protein)? 50g whey protein isolate should be a heck of a lot healthier than 50g of protein from chicken. Or what's in beef that you can't get in other stuff plus your mutli vitamin? |
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Chicken is a rich source of dietary protein, required to perform a number of vital functions in the body. Protein is also found to be essential for maintaining bone density and preventing osteoporosis. The meat or chicken is quite cheap due to which, it is widely used for consumption all over the world. Besides being rich in protein, it also contains many essential vitamins and minerals. Chicken is very rich in vitamin B6, which is required for carbohydrate, fat and protein metabolism, production of red blood cells and also for strengthening the immune system. Chicken can provide you almost 36% of the total daily requirement of vitamin B6. Besides, chicken can also provide almost 72% of the total daily requirement of another important vitamin niacin or vitamin B3, required for the metabolism of food, i.e releasing energy from food and proper functioning of the digestive system, skin and nerves. Deficiency of this vital vitamin can cause pellagra, a disease characterized by diarrhea, dermatitis, hyper pigmentation, inflammation of mouth and tongue, dementia and even death. Another important mineral required as a trace element in human body is selenium, and chicken can provide you with almost 40% of your daily requirement of this nutrient. Selenium is supposed to have antioxidant property, that can protect you from the damage caused by the harmful free radicals. It also boosts the immune system and ensures normal functioning of thyroid gland. Chicken can also provide a sufficient amount of phosphorus, which is very essential for the formation as well as maintenance of teeth and bones, protein synthesis and growth as also, the repair and maintenance of muscle tissues. Phosphorus content of chicken is substantial and it can meet almost 36% of daily requirement. Phosphorus, along with vitamin B6, can facilitate the functions of kidney and nervous system. Chicken provides you with vitamins, minerals and proteins. Another important nutritional fact about chicken is that it is low in fats. More than half of the fats it contains, are unsaturated fats, which in fact, help in lowering cholesterol. Usually, the skin of chicken contains the fats, therefore it is advisable to cook it after removing the skin and excess fats, in order to preserve its nutritional quality. Also, it is preferable to cook chicken in minimum fat or oil. Instead of cooking in oil, if it is prepared by baking, roasting, grilling or poaching, it would definitely provide you with more nutrition and health benefits, while also adding variety to your diet. By Chandramita Bora Published: 5/20/2009 |
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Originally Posted by NJ-Surfer
There's nothing wrong with whey protein shakes but there is also nothing wrong with fat in your diet. It's always best to get your nutrition from whole foods. If after eating whole foods you are still not reaching your dietary needs then you SUPPLEMENT with things such as whey protein.
Wow, you are sadly very misinformed. Here is a little reading for you: |
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Originally Posted by Stewart14
well i wasn't inferring that chicken is "bad" for you, I just wrote that an equivalent large amount of chicken is probably less healthy for you than an equivalent large amount of whey protein. I know cholesterol is not entirely bad for you, but how much cholesterol is there in an amount of chicken or beef that equals 50g of protein?
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Originally Posted by Stewart14
Naturally your first inclination might be to eat 3 chicken breasts if you're bulking or say 10-12 oz of beef, where it may be healthier for you to eat say one chicken breast, or 4-6 oz of beef and then a scoop of whey protein, so you get the benefits of the meet without too much of the negatives.
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Originally Posted by suprfast
I cant speak for protein sources from shakes(isolate of course) but Stewart could bring up one point, hormones. A lot of the chickens, beef, pork are all force fed antibiotics, hormones, food that isnt normal to their staple diet.
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Hormones & Antibiotics No hormones are used in the raising of chickens. Antibiotics may be given to prevent disease and increase feed efficiency. A "withdrawal" period is required from the time antibiotics are administered before the bird can be slaughtered. This ensures that no residues are present in the bird's system. FSIS randomly samples poultry at slaughter and tests for residues. Data from this monitoring program have shown a very low percentage of residue violations. Additives Additives are not allowed on fresh chicken. If chicken is processed, however, additives such as MSG, salt, or sodium erythorbate may be added but must be listed on the label. USDA Source: Focus On: Chicken |
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Originally Posted by NJ-Surfer
The USDA strictly prohibits the use of hormones in the raising of chicken and antibotics must be cleared from their system before slaughter and sale (see below). Whereas Cows are fed large amounts of both hormones and antibiotics to increase milk production. These chemicals are in much greater concentration in milk than muscle tissue (we can get into a separate discussion about DMPK if you'd like). So being that whey is isolated from milk you are more likely to be exposed to these compounds in your protein shake than you would in meat.
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Originally Posted by Roids1
Okay, you obviously are determined to find someone who'll tell you it is a good idea. Soooo, yes you are absolutely right. It is a great idea to live on nothing but whey protein shakes. It will be a very healthy diet and you will probably be more jacked than Jay Cutler in about 6 months.......if you throw in some Neovar of course. Hope this helps!
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Originally Posted by Roids1
Well, you could first take an english language course moron. Whey protein is a complete protein and it don't put on weight, but that don't mean it would be healthy to live on just whey protein shakes. Your body don't get enough other essential nutrients when it don't have nothing else in the diet besides whey protein shakes.
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Originally Posted by Geared Jesus
I think he wants to stay lean so he can fit into his girlfriends skinny jeans this spring.
Either that or he's this guy: YouTube - Jim Carrey - Environmental Guy |
he has the best characters.
| My my, I haven't exactly read every post, but here's my theory. Protein shakes do not come from the ground, or the sea, or trees, so...you weren't exactly meant to live on it. |