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Posted by: bodom

ok so my previous cutting plan was about 1500 calories a day and cardio 6 days a week and lifting 4 days a week. after posting that on this forum i was told i needed to eat more to have a better cut.... so i changed it to 2300 calories a day and cardio 2 times a week and lifting 3 days a week.... after week one i gained 4.5 lbs? ummm why?

Posted by: kyoun1e

Broken scale?

At 198 lbs, 2300 should be in deficit land.

Something not adding up.

You sure you're counting calories right?

KY

Posted by: PainandGain

Water weight.
pure and simple.
Think about it, do you think you could have gained that much fat? No.

Posted by: Tank316

Go by other ways to measure..
Use a tape to measure your waist and other areas.
Keep track of your strength gain, keep a journal.
Use a mirror
Go by how your clothes feel and look on you.
Bdy fat testing should be done 3-4 wks even 5.
Dont let the scale run your life

And most of all be patient

Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by bodom

ok so my previous cutting plan was about 1500 calories a day and cardio 6 days a week and lifting 4 days a week. after posting that on this forum i was told i needed to eat more to have a better cut.... so i changed it to 2300 calories a day and cardio 2 times a week and lifting 3 days a week.... after week one i gained 4.5 lbs? ummm why?

my guess would be a gain in lean muscle mass, but as Tank said you don't want to use a scale to measure cutting progress, use the mirror, bodyfat measurements, etc. first.

Posted by: calalily1972

I'm thinking you increased too fast and you have a suppressed metabolism. You can't jump from eating too little to an increase of almost 1K calories without expecting weight gain. It's mostly water but you may have gained a speck of fat and some muscle.

Posted by: Built

You didn't gain fat, and you didn't gain muscle, either.

You're eating more and you're exercising less - you didn't lose anything, and you reglycogenated.

About 1% of the muscle on your body is glycogen, and each gram of glycogen is bound up with almost 3 grams of water.

There's the five pounds.

Posted by: largepkg

Built is our Bill Nye the science guy.

Posted by: bodom

thanks hopefully it sticks around here for now then. but if i want to continue cutting do i go back to my old cycle again?

Posted by: Built

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Originally Posted by largepkg

Built is our Bill Nye the science guy.

Posted by: Ngordyn

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Originally Posted by bodom

thanks hopefully it sticks around here for now then. but if i want to continue cutting do i go back to my old cycle again?

no at almost 200 lbs 1500 calories is pretty low , stick with this for a few weeks and see , if u keep maintaining then cut to 2000, one week is not enough time to measure if a cut is going to be effective

Posted by: bodom

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Originally Posted by Built

You didn't gain fat, and you didn't gain muscle, either.

You're eating more and you're exercising less - you didn't lose anything, and you reglycogenated.

About 1% of the muscle on your body is glycogen, and each gram of glycogen is bound up with almost 3 grams of water.

There's the five pounds.

so when im cutting massively like before the water is taken away from the glycogen and put out of wack?

Posted by: Built

When cutting massively, and overtraining as well, you'll deplete glycogen stores from your muscles. The glycogen is bound up with water, so you burn through the glycogen and pee out the bound up water that is liberated with the burning off of the glycogen.

You eat, the glycogen goes back into your muscles - which is a GOOD thing - and it holds water.

Deplete and carb-load and your weight can fluctuate 5-8 lbs in a matter of days. Anyone who does this regularly (I do this weekly) knows it's nothing to panic about.

Posted by: bodom

thanks so much i appreciate it =)

Posted by: C6zo6

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Originally Posted by Built

You didn't gain fat, and you didn't gain muscle, either.

You're eating more and you're exercising less - you didn't lose anything, and you reglycogenated.

What does reglycogenated mean? Is that a word?

Posted by: Merkaba

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Originally Posted by C6zo6

What does reglycogenated mean? Is that a word?

glycogenate is to fortify with glycogen....Re means to do again. I think you can handle it from there.

Posted by: C6zo6

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Originally Posted by Merkaba

glycogenate is to fortify with glycogen....Re means to do again. I think you can handle it from there.

Gotcha, these must be words you guys use, because either glycogenate, or reglycogenated are words, lol.

I'll just keep in mind to never say that out loud.

Posted by: Merkaba

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Originally Posted by C6zo6

Gotcha, these must be words you guys use, because either glycogenate, or reglycogenated are words, lol.

I'll just keep in mind to never say that out loud.

Did you mean "Neither" instead of either?

"Either" way, both are words. Glycogenate is also a noun.

But yes I wouldn't say it out loud, especially if you don't know what it means.

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