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Posted by: Floods7

I'm starting my cut down phase for the summer. I have been off of creatien for about 4 months now, while I'm a little smaller my muscles look better and harder. I still am lifting hard ans eating well, but I'm about to start intervals and some cutting calories. What supplements would help the cutting process and aid in preserving muscles??

Currently I take:
Animal Pak multi
100% whey

I have some arsenal - X by PMD

I'm looking at getting Optimum Nutrition Fish Oil and amino acids ( AA not for fat loss)

Posted by: Ngordyn

well before ANYTHING , you need to make sure your diet is in order , and after and only after an EC stack will aid in fat loss and retaining muscle if u can get your hands on it

Posted by: Floods7

I want something without ephedrine

Posted by: Built

I'd get back on creatine.

What macros are you running and how are you training?

Posted by: Floods7

don't know what macros are, my training:
Monday - 25 sec rest in between sets - arms and some back
tue - traditional chest day 1:30 min rest between sets
wed- 25 sec rest in between sets - back and shoulders
thurs- heavy chest 1:30 min rest
fri - 25 sec rest arms and some abs

I don't like the look of creatine, I feel like I look like I have puffy and soft muscles. Since I have been off it I have really hardened up.

Posted by: danzik17

There's your problem. No knowledge of what you're taking in food wise combined with a poor training program.

Read up on the links in Built's sig and some of the stickies on the DnT and Training forums. You don't need supplements, you need knowledge.

Posted by: Built

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Originally Posted by Floods7

don't know what macros are,

Okay, there's your first problem...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Floods7

my training:
Monday - 25 sec rest in between sets - arms and some back
tue - traditional chest day 1:30 min rest between sets
wed- 25 sec rest in between sets - back and shoulders
thurs- heavy chest 1:30 min rest
fri - 25 sec rest arms and some abs

And there's your second problem.

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Originally Posted by Floods7

I don't like the look of creatine, I feel like I look like I have puffy and soft muscles. Since I have been off it I have really hardened up.

What kind of creatine were you taking - was it plain monohydrate, or was it a premix?

How come you don't train legs, and why are you doing so much concentration work while cutting?

Posted by: Floods7

I was taking a premix. I don't train legs cause I trying to heel up a bad knee, I do real light leg training, so I didn't even list it. Its more of physical therapy than a workout.

Posted by: Built

How about the other issues I addressed?

Posted by: Merkaba

Posted by: Floods7

which one did i miss?

Posted by: Built

The one about doing lots of concentration work while cutting.

Posted by: T_man

and the diet

Posted by: Floods7

I dont see what the difference is on the concentration work, I am working those muscles in a superset and interval fashion. What do you recommend.

Posted by: T_man

dont do isolation, or much of it

do compounds

Posted by: Built

^ Bingo. Save your strength for the stuff that counts.

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