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Can creatine cause kidney stone?

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Posted by: nkira

Is it possible?

Most of the instructions on packing advice to increase water intake.But if one end's up drinking less water at the same time continues to take creatine then what are the chances of developing kidney stone?

What other supps can lead to development of kidney stone if not properly used?

Posted by: tatteredsaint

I'm not sure I have heard that some european countries don't allow creatine for some reason and it's just like the protien thing everyone has an opinion on what the benefiets-damages are, I would say any supplement that recommends drinking a lot of water to avoid dehydration could have a possibility of helping cause kidney stones if the directions aren't followed

Posted by: nkira

Appreciate your response, I was just googling to see if there was any link & wanted to get some ones opinion on it.

Now, I know that creatine is a well research & proven supplement no doubt about that, I am honestly not looking for any debate here, I was just curious.

But,

Here's what I found,

"Creatine supplementation, in the dosages commonly used, results in urinary concentrations that are 90 times greater than normal. The long term effects of this have not been investigated, but there is possibility for a variety of nephrotoxic, i.e., kidney damaging, events. There is potential for direct toxicity on renal tubules where urine is formed, and for acceleration of kidney stone formation. Recently, a baseball player for the Houston Astros was determined to have suffered from dehydration, kidney stones, and transient kidney damage as the result of creatine supplementation. Additionally, the deaths of 3 collegiate wrestlers this past year are being investigated to determine what role creatine supplementation may have played."

Source

I searched it on Pubmed too & not a single study confirmed -ve effects in relation to kidney.

Posted by: tatteredsaint

I really don't think they have any long term studies for creatine one of my physiology professors used to preach quite a bit about how creatine elevates the levels of creatinine in your body to levels that eventually will cause damage of the kidneys I just make sure I cycle it no more than 3 months on 1 month off I just megadose Xtend on the off period

Posted by: nkira

I agree that cycling is important. What is Megadose Xtend?

Posted by: Chubby

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Originally Posted by nkira

What is Xtend?

Scivation Xtend, 30 servings

Posted by: nkira

Thanks Chobby....

Posted by: Tank316

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Additionally, the deaths of 3 collegiate wrestlers this past year are being investigated to determine what role creatine supplementation may have played."

I'm trying to start a war here, but this bothers me greatly.
Being a former wrestler, and NOT having to do a sevre cut like wrestlers do, i witnessed many stupid attempts to drop the wt. And these guys wouldnt just try to loose a pound or 2, it was 6-8-10 lbs. Exlax,not drinking,not eating,spitting, sauna suits..this goes on. Can the body take this for wk in and wk out..No It Cant. To point a finger at creatine.....

Posted by: T_man

can products which stimulate vasodilation help with circulatory problems??
my mum's hand goes really itchy and red when its cold and the doc said it was due to circulatory problems. Now I have the same red-hand-itis thing in my right hand but it happens when i'm hot. This also occurs in my right foot.

Or does this just mean I've become lazy and need to get off my fat ass and do some running?

Posted by: Whatsaroid?

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Originally Posted by T_man

can products which stimulate vasodilation help with circulatory problems??
my mum's hand goes really itchy and red when its cold and the doc said it was due to circulatory problems. Now I have the same red-hand-itis thing in my right hand but it happens when i'm hot. This also occurs in my right foot.

Or does this just mean I've become lazy and need to get off my fat ass and do some running?

Well circulatory problems can be from a host of things and can lead to a lot of symptoms so if you already have a clue you may have these problems are they run in your family (Such as High Blood Pressure, Blood Clots Ect) its good that you take steps to prevent or lower the outcome.

I'd suggest going on walks if not running to improve vascular health, supplement fish out and good daily vitamin and take it easy on fast food.

Circulatory problems run in my family pretty strong so I take my own advice to help lower the risk of these issues becoming a serious problem in my future.

Supps I'd suggest
Cycle support/Life supprt you can google it
Our company brand EFA's our the best blend I've ever seen. (for your fish oil, cla and omega 3's)

Disclaimer
I'm not a doctor so take my advice as suggestions.

Posted by: ironman4

I've never heard of this before.
I certainly hope not!

Luckily I've never been much of a creatine user

Posted by: T_man

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Originally Posted by Whatsaroid?

i wanna buy ironmaglabs supps but whenever I tried purchasing anything outside the UK they dont accept my debit card

Posted by: Whatsaroid?

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Originally Posted by T_man

i wanna buy ironmaglabs supps but whenever I tried purchasing anything outside the UK they dont accept my debit card

Weird, I'll look into this for you. Also have you tried contacting your bank in seeing if they have restrictions are anything like that? I would contact my bank and ask why would this happen but I'm in the US so I doubt if they would know, but I'll ask since I have to call anyway.

Posted by: Whatsaroid?

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Originally Posted by ironman4

I've never heard of this before.
I certainly hope not!

Luckily I've never been much of a creatine user

I had a friend that took creatine year round for two to three years and started to pee blood. It was weird and scary but not sure what else he did as we stopped talking shortly after that. Sce then I don' like to take creatine longer then two months without cycling off.

Posted by: tatteredsaint

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Originally Posted by nkira

I agree that cycling is important. What is Megadose Xtend?

to megadose scivation xtend is just to use at least an etra serving or 2 a day it helps recovery quite a bit

Posted by: T_man

there's just no option for a debit card thats all. I can only use it in europe

btw sry for hijacking this thread

is creatine's risks worth the gains in the end??

Posted by: Prince

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Originally Posted by T_man

i wanna buy ironmaglabs supps but whenever I tried purchasing anything outside the UK they dont accept my debit card

we don't ship international, but Bodybuilding.com does.

Posted by: Whatsaroid?

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Originally Posted by Prince

we don't ship international, but Bodybuilding.com does.

You beat me to it

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Originally Posted by T_man

i wanna buy ironmaglabs supps but whenever I tried purchasing anything outside the UK they dont accept my debit card

Did you mean anything outside the UK or just our site?

Posted by: Kevsworld

I sincerely doubt creatine could cause kidney stones.

Posted by: T_man

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Originally Posted by Whatsaroid?

You beat me to it

Did you mean anything outside the UK or just our site?

most sites outside UK.

And the problem isn't the shipping but the type of card accepted. I have a debit card. It's sort of like a credit card but it doesn't allow you to purchase on credit. The only purchases u can make is with money already deposited in the account.

Posted by: nkira

T Man, have you tried using pay pal with your debit card?

Posted by: T_man

i can use paypal yes

Posted by: bbermikel

Not if you drink enough water.

Posted by: nkira

bbermikel welcome to the forum. Btw you CAN NOT advertise others bodybuilding/fitness boards or supplement sites in your signatures (unless they link back to IronMagazine).

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