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Posted by: Marat

This excerpt is from Mark Rippetoe's Starting Strength

"Gloves have no place in a serious training program. A glove is merely a piece of loose stuff between the hand and the bar, reducing grip security and increasing the effective diameter of the bar. Gloves make bars harder to hold on to. The only legitimate use for a glove is to cover an injury, like a torn callus or a cut, where the workout is important enough to do with the injury. The desire is to prevent callus formation (possibly so as to not snag one's pantyhose) does not constitute a legitimate use."

A caveat is that he recommends chalk use, which isn't allowed in many gyms.

Thoughts?

Posted by: Matrick

I agree with him, I never use gloves unles I had a cut and was going to train in a dirty gym. there is liquid chalk that is allowed everywhere.

Posted by: Patrick_01

Whatever your priorities are. Mine's soft hands, so I'll always use gloves.

Posted by: vader

I never use gloves

Posted by: Built

I pull the chick card and wear gloves. I hate training without 'em.

Posted by: Bradicallyman

I use gloves, only because that is what I am used to. The first thing i did when I started lifting weights 5 years ago was buy a pair of gloves. Now it feels weird whenever I forget them.

Posted by: Gazhole

Used to train with gloves all the time, but the sessions i forgot to bring them sucked because my hands hurt. Stopped taking them after that, it was painful for a little while but at least after that it wasn't a problem anymore.

Posted by: Scarface30

I used them for the first little while when I started lifting. But then like was mentioned in the blurb, found that my grip without gloves>>grip with gloves.

Posted by: nkira

I have to use gloves other wise I get Calluses.....

Posted by: Hench

Originally Posted by nkira

I have to use gloves other wise I get Calluses.....

Built can get away with that excuse, you can't. Pussy.

Posted by: plums_jp

Originally Posted by nkira

I have to use gloves other wise I get Calluses.....

lol...thats what your teeth are for...chew em off

Posted by: vader

haha, I have done that

Posted by: nkira

alright alright I know.....

Originally Posted by plums_jp

lol...thats what your teeth are for...chew em off

Originally Posted by Moondogg

Built can get away with that excuse, you can't. Pussy.

Posted by: david100proof

I love my gloves they give me a better grip

Posted by: HialeahChico305

I never use gloves, but I gotta admit girls do like soft hands on us guys. oh well

Posted by: Minhkey

People at my 24hour fitness wear gloves but at my high school, no one wears gloves in the weight room

Posted by: vader

Originally Posted by HialeahChico305

I never use gloves, but I gotta admit girls do like soft hands on us guys. oh well

women like rough hands

Posted by: chiquita6683

Originally Posted by vader

women like rough hands

Yeah I dont want a guy to have hands like me.....Id think he was gay or something

Posted by: Scarface30

Originally Posted by chiquita6683

Yeah I dont want a guy to have hands like me.....Id think he was gay or something

lol

that reminds me of a buddy of mine. he bought gloves to go to the gym, and I used to rag on him a lot about it. he's like "well, I don't want rough ass hands when I'm with my girl".. I said "I think she'd think it was kind of gay if your hands were as soft as hers"

he hasn't worn them since.

Posted by: tatteredsaint

I wear gloves and I still end up with calluses n rough hands , but have you ever sen someone at the gym that wears gloves but never actually lifts a weight , there are 2 at my gym all they do is ab work and run -wierd

Posted by: Hench

Originally Posted by tatteredsaint

I wear gloves and I still end up with calluses n rough hands , but have you ever sen someone at the gym that wears gloves but never actually lifts a weight , there are 2 at my gym all they do is ab work and run -wierd

Is that not how you get the perfect body, running to burn all the fat off then ab work to get a HUGE six pack, or if you work hard enough an eight pack.......

Posted by: Merkaba

Yea fuck that. I wear gloves. Guess I'm just a pussy too. Rubbing on ya girl with a half picked callus? fuck that.

Posted by: danzik17

Half picked? Come on, finish the job pussy.

Posted by: sexy_animal

I don't use any lifting aids like straps, gloves, belts, joint wraps, etc... because I feel that they mess up your natural movement mechanics. I also wear only flat soled shoes.

Posted by: Marat

Originally Posted by sexy_animal

I don't use any lifting aids like straps, gloves, belts, joint wraps, etc... because I feel that they mess up your natural movement mechanics. I also wear only flat soled shoes.

I'm a fan of straps. I'm able to deadlift more with them. There's no chance that my grip strength can compare to my posterior chain.

Posted by: rantorcha

I use gloves for two reasons - 1) my hands kept getting ripped up because the grips on the bars at my gym are that really granualated, rough metal and 2) the gloves I use have wrist supports and I have had trouble with my wrists in the past.

However, now I use these new things I found called "Lynx Grips". These things are awesome!

Posted by: sexy_animal

Originally Posted by m11

I'm a fan of straps. I'm able to deadlift more with them. There's no chance that my grip strength can compare to my posterior chain.

I have a personal philosophy that the body is only as strong as it's weakest link. I would rather lift less and be a healthy, functional human machine, rather then overload a weak point and risk the inevitable injury.

IMHO, grip is a major component of strength. It's right up there with a strong glute drive, and having a functionally strong core. I really liked the ideas in Pavel's The Naked Warrior.

Posted by: Hench

Originally Posted by sexy_animal

Sorry, that’s rubbish.

My take: how on earth would your hands and forearms (very small muscles) be anywhere near as strong as your ENTIRE posterior chain? I’m sure your 'personal philosophy' sounds great in your head (we all have a few of those that we like to cling to, lol) but as with most things we assume, it has flaws

Posted by: sexy_animal

I'm not going to argue with you because you're clearly coming from a bodybuilding school of thought, and I'm not. I'm more concerned with what my body can do without the assistance of devices. For example in the MMA if your grip gives out, you're fucked because you can't utilize the rest of your strength.

I also understand that this is a bodybuilding forum, so lets just leave it at that. Like i said, it's a "personal philosophy".

Posted by: Hench

Originally Posted by sexy_animal

I'm not going to argue with you because you're clearly coming from a bodybuilding school of thought, and I'm not. I'm more concerned with what my body can do without the assistance of devices. For example in the MMA if your grip gives out, you're fucked because you can't utilize the rest of your strength.

I also understand that this is a bodybuilding forum, so lets just leave it at that. Like i said, it's a "personal philosophy".

I can completely understand this, from my experience your grip will get weaker once you start using straps unless you add extra grip work to your program.

Posted by: Marat

Originally Posted by Moondogg

from my experience your grip will get weaker once you start using straps unless you add extra grip work to your program.

Anybody have any opinion on this statement? I deadlifted for a few years without straps, but now since I'm getting the weight up a bit, i've decided to start using them. Been using them for about a month or two and noticed that on my warmup sets, where I don't use the straps, I have an easier job holding onto the bar.

Thoughts on this?

Posted by: Gordo

Chalk may not be allowed but sometimes you can get away with liquid chalk (dustless)...go to a climbing store, they'll have it for a couple 'a bucks.

Hook grip works pretty good, it feels like your thumbs are going to pull out of their sockets at first but that goes away and becomes quite comfortable. It's a really solid grip on a pull.

We don't have them at our gym, but if you can get a hold of a ez-grips or a thick bar.... that is supposed to help grip and forearm strength

Posted by: MeatheadSam

I Never use gloves. I prefer direct contact with the bar. I do however use straps on occasion but not often.

Posted by: DIVINITUS

I used to use gloves, until I lost one in a move...been lifting now for 4-5 months without them. My hands burn like the sun while deadlifting, but getting used to it. Want to check out straps for my deads soon though, never used them, but have heard good things.

Posted by: readyformore

i got to reasons that i wear gloves,
first and most important, my wrists hurt if i lift heavy with out them (my gloves have wrist supports)
second... GIRLS LIKE SOFT HANDS lol (from exp)
i never met a girl that liked rough hands all up on her...

Posted by: Gazhole

I've never had the reason to use gloves or straps other than what i wanted to use at the time.

My grip is pretty good, i've never had trouble holding onto any sort of weight, hands or wrists don't hurt, etc etc.

Posted by: Kevsworld

I think it is just a personal preference. If you don't like callous hands, use gloves. If you like to lift bare-handed, use chalk.

The idea that gloves can't be used by a serious lifter is a bunch of macho bullcrap.

Posted by: Gazhole

Originally Posted by Kevsworld

I think it is just a personal preference. If you don't like callous hands, use gloves. If you like to lift bare-handed, use chalk.

The idea that gloves can't be used by a serious lifter is a bunch of macho bullcrap.

End the end of the day who cares, right?

I agree with the fact that you're only as strong as your weakest link and that if you took the straps away a few people couldn't lift as much weight, but at the same time i don't think anybody here is saying straps make the lifter.

Straps, no straps, if you're deadlifting a lot of weight you're deadlifting a lot of weight.

Posted by: MeatheadSam

Originally Posted by readyformore

second... GIRLS LIKE SOFT HANDS lol (from exp)
i never met a girl that liked rough hands all up on her...

That is what tongues are for.

Posted by: westb51

I use these and they are, by far, the best I've ever used.

I didn't always use them, but once I started, if I ever forgot them I sure missed them.

Posted by: Merkaba

Originally Posted by MeatheadSam

That is what tongues are for.

rookie???? The more the better. One tongue and two hands at the same time.

Ok other forum.....

lol

Posted by: nkira

I found these gloves lying around, don't know what they are but the fabric is cotton elastic combo and the little blue dots are rubber.

I have been using this for a week now and they are simply great....I was little skeptical about the durability of rubber dots but not a single one has come off!!

I found them in my bro's cupboard

(He's out of country for work purpose)

Fitting is nice too...almost skin tight!! and cotton keeps palms dry.

Calluses reduced too.

Posted by: the7zen

looks like some kind of garden gloves....hey if it works...great

Posted by: nkira

I really don't know what kind of gloves they are.....will ask bro when he comes back.

Posted by: the7zen

"Fitting is nice too...almost skin tight!! and cotton keeps palms dry. "

Cotton keeps palms dry - may be i should try these, my palms always sweat and the regular workout gloves stink a lot after couple of uses, this i can atleast wash and reuse

Posted by: westb51

those look like the gloves they give people that deal with cardboard boxes

Posted by: nkira

Give them a try if you can get them......best gloves I ever tried, i even ditched my new lather gloves for this ones.

Posted by: plums_jp

try latex gloves... (surgical little ones)... they will give you mad grip, plus you look hard

Posted by: nkira

I hate the smell they leave behind....

Posted by: jmorrison

Those are the same kind of gloves we use out on the oil rigs. We call them "meat bags" so that when you get your hand smashed you can find all of your fingers easily.

Posted by: nkira

Your joking! Right?

Originally Posted by jmorrison

Those are the same kind of gloves we use out on the oil rigs. We call them "meat bags" so that when you get your hand smashed you can find all of your fingers easily.

Posted by: jmorrison

Originally Posted by nkira

Your joking! Right?

No, not at all

Hand injuries are fairly common, although with the newer technology you don't see nearly as many people getting hurt. Don't know too many old timers out here with all their fingers though!

Posted by: nkira

That's scary stuff......You watch when you work pal.

Posted by: plums_jp

well i work on a rig in Canada, and we have much higher safety standards... i dont think the american oil patch has any standards period...

Posted by: jmorrison

Yeah, and the brits have an even better safety history. But no one can dig a hole like us!

Posted by: plums_jp

Originally Posted by jmorrison

Yeah, and the brits have an even better safety history. But no one can dig a hole like us!

LOL... funniest thing ive ever heard... lies

Posted by: jmorrison

Funniest thing you have EVER heard? Man...that sucks:P

Don't be mad just becuase your roughnecks are too covered in maple syrup to grab the slips!

All in good fun my beaver pelt wearing northern neighbor! Ay?

Posted by: plums_jp

nooo doot aboot it....

Posted by: nkira

What??

Originally Posted by plums_jp

nooo doot aboot it....

Posted by: MeatZatk

I bought these recently. Only used them for back workouts so far, but will probably start using them more often.

Performance Grips

Posted by: juggernaut

I'm damn proud of my callouses. I keep getting them and slicing them off. My wife hates them but loves the way it feels when I hold her hand. She says she feels secure.

Posted by: nkira

They are not like the one's you wear, don't they fall off once you leave the bar?

Originally Posted by MeatZatk

I bought these recently. Only used them for back workouts so far, but will probably start using them more often.

Performance Grips

Posted by: MeatZatk

they sort of adhere to the bar, but yes, after a while they might fall off. It doesn't bother me though, just pick 'em up and do another set.

Posted by: juggernaut

youre all fat pussies. Be proud wear your callouses with pride!!

Posted by: PainandGain

I find when using gloves, I am stronger on any lift where i have to use my hands.

So I use them because I care about getting bigger and stronger, if you don't
then don't use them.

And the bit about women not liking soft hands?
that's total bullshit.
You think girls like being scratched up? Most don't.

Posted by: shouse94

I get way better grip w/o gloves. With chalk, no comparison.

Posted by: juggernaut

Originally Posted by PainandGain

I find when using gloves, I am stronger on any lift where i have to use my hands.

So I use them because I care about getting bigger and stronger, if you don't
then don't use them.

And the bit about women not liking soft hands?
that's total bullshit.
You think girls like being scratched up? Most don't.

who said I was married to a normal woman? She's a bit of a "mega-bitch" in her own words. She wears it well. Kind of like that chick on toolbelt diva...but my wife is great at beating someone's ass.

Posted by: juggernaut

Originally Posted by PainandGain

who said I was married to a normal woman? She's a bit of a "mega-bitch" in her own words. She wears it well. Kind of like that chick on toolbelt diva...but my wife is great at beating someone's ass.

Posted by: nkira

Seems like shes the right match for you buddie....

I don't even want to imagine you two fighting or arguing or debating....

Posted by: ALBOB

I wear golves during pressing movements because my hands sweat and the golves allow me to get a firm grip without slipping.

I also use straps for deadlifts and rows, but only on my max sets. No matter what you do, your back will always be stronger than your hands. I don't want to limit my back development just because I was too "proud" to wear straps.

Posted by: juggernaut

Originally Posted by nkira

Seems like shes the right match for you buddie....

I don't even want to imagine you two fighting or arguing or debating....

we fight well together. If there was anyone I should be matched with, it's my Sandy.

We're opposites, but we fill gaps in each other's personality.
To this day, 17 years later, I still get butterflies when I hear her coming home from work.

Posted by: nkira

Jugge, That's nice to know.......So you do have a good side

Posted by: Chubby

I use lifting hooks when doing deadlift and bendover row to support my wrist joint. I don't use any gloves.

Posted by: juggernaut

Originally Posted by nkira

Jugge, That's nice to know.......So you do have a good side

ancient chinese secret!!

Posted by: T_man

I just did a home back workout.
I have a hook for a punching bag hanging from the ceiling, but i just wrap my guita strap doubled over it and do zero grip pullups.
I then go under my double decker bed and place my legs on the desk under it, and put a bag with weights on my back and use the bars supporting my matress on the top to do rows and face pulls with weights in my bag. I then use the guitar strap inbetween the "spine" of the bars underneath to do like t-bar rows with body weight but i found the weight of my body + weights in my back to be too heavy when using my guitar strap and I end up getting sore red spots just below where my calouses are.

I would definately use gloves if i had them in this instance.

Posted by: westb51

Originally Posted by T_man

...I then go under my double decker bed and ...

being from the UK, is it a double decker bus bunk bed?

Posted by: signedup

Guys here seem to be more worried about rough hands than anything else.

Posted by: T_man

i just thought i would use a term everyone knew, just incase people overseas didn't understand

and my hands were actually sore, it hurt to write the next day, kinda like a burn

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