Adding protein to your carb+creatine drink can further enhance the amount of creatine your muscles absorb. Drinking a carb+protein+creatine drink post-workout would be the best possibly scenario. Maybe taking ALA at this time too for more benefit.

Creatine Ethyl Esters have em all beat now, so its all moot!

Where can I find info on Creatine Ethyl Esters? Never heard of it.

Whenever you ask Gopro a question, the answer is always vpx lol

Chill out. The "lol" means im just giving you shit. But whatever..

Ah, looks like I wont give you shit again. I know you take a lot of shit for being a rep, but I also dont agree with the way you market.

Laterzz..

I don't market. My involvement is in other areas. If I had my way with the marketing, alot would change.

Well, you answered my question well, and I appreciate it. I will certainly look into using it, but regular creatine works well for me right now--plus I have lots of it to take first. Thank you for the info, though.

SAN's V-12. Best creatine I have ever used.

Don't you mean "SEX"

Man you started late in life gopro

Well if ya had someone like Sapphire, I'm sure she could help you catch up
(and didn't mean that as insulting Sapphire) You know I like to tease around.
Oh how nice that would be

Well it be Friday at last Gopro.
I may be going to Hawaii with my girlfriend for a week, not sure yet.
I thought it might be nice to get away for a bit. Plus I never been there.

My workouts are coming a long well. I'm doing a 3 day split right now. That has always seemed to work best for me when I can work my major muscle groups twice a week instead of just once.

How's things going with you gopro?

Well, this post came out of nowhere!

Hawaii sounds awesome...hope to get there soon myself!

Glad your workouts are going well.

Everything is cool over here...thanks for asking!

Whether you are kidding or not, its still an untrue statement that I did not appreciate...thats all. Others may not know you are "just giving me shit."

Sometimes spontaneity can be a good thing

You say cool in Florida....hmmm. Well I guess I can see that.
Its actually been surprisingly cold here in California the last couple of days.
But most people would laugh at what I think is cold (60 degrees)

We know GoPro!!! You helped me out with this same question, and to your defense you gave me 3 options, and VPX CEX was the last one you gave me. I appreciate any and all help I get from you and I see no problem with the way you help or tell it like it is!!! You are definately Da MAN!!!

Well, if we are going to be literal, then no, its not cool here in Fl. It's still 80-84 everyday here! LOL...being from NY, I laugh at people that think that 60 degrees is cool. At that temp I'm still in a t-shirt and shorts, while some people in Fl are all bundled up!

This is a new form of creatine in that it is bound to an ester making it FAR more absorbable from the gut into the bloodstream. Regular creatines are very poorly absorbed out of the gut because creatine itself has a dual charge, positive on one end and negative on the other (known in science as a "zwitterion"), and this makes it non-lipoliphic, or fat penetrating. So why does this matter? Well, this is becuase the cells that line the gut are lipid (fat) membranes, and thus regular creatine is not absorbed very well at all through these membranes. Think of it like if you took two magnets and tried to put them together and they "push away" from eachother.

Now, with CEEs, you have an ester attached to the creatine and esters are VERY lipoliphic, or fat penetrating. The ester carries the creatine right through the lipid membranes and into the bloodstream for transport to muscle cells. There is no bloating or gas in the stomach b/c the creatine does not just sit there waiting to get through, and there is MUCH more creatine available for your muscle cells!

So there you have some info! Whew!

Several companies sell CEEs, but I have to plug CEX by VPX b/c I work with them and b/c I take it myself and it works so freaking well.

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I still think creatine is creatine, but...what do I know

Not much I gather...

I bet if there was a scientific study comparison done between a body builder consuming the regular creatine monohydrate powder and the creatine you are discussing...there would be little noticeable difference.

Not that I am trying doubt your knowledge or anything gopro, it is just that you hear much different reactions from those trying to sell products then the bodybuilders who are using them that are not affiliated with any proceeds from the sellers. I just really can't believe that creatine, no matter what delivery system used would make that big of a noticeable difference.

Now If I was a supplement manufacturer, I would take what ever product I could like creatine, market several variations, add fancy scientific explanations as to why they work better than the original, and sell them for much more money. Now its probably legal cause theoretically they are probably not lying. Maybe under these extensive scientific tests they may come out with higher values of benefit, but the bottom line is.. The benefit is probably so small that knowbody would even notice. So then the question... Is it worth paying for something like that when you can't even notice with the human eye the difference it would make. Me, I stick with my 12.00 tub of creatine and use grape juice as a delivery system. Heck I bet the supplement manufacturers are even trying to take standard grape juice and rename that to make it sound like it is of special benefit to bodybuilders

I know this is all talk out of my rear here...but I've seen this happen so many times before, and not just with body building supplements, with anything.
Look at all the generic products you can buy. For the majority of them, if you compare ingredients, they are identical to those with big names trying to off the identical product for like 25 percent more money at minimum.

I appreciate your words Randy, but this is one case where there is a true physiological reason why creatine ethyl ester is more effective gram for gram (by far) than regular creatine. It allows for such a greater absorption into the blood stream that its not even close. Its not a gimmick...and I don't care what brand we are talking about...as long as its powdered and of high quality, then its going to work 100% better for the large majority of people.

I dont like celltech at all, first its overly priced, second too much sugar, and third its just a monohydrate.

I have been blown away by CEE and will never go back to monohydrate again. I mix CEE with 50grams of powdered gatorade and 50 grams 100% Whey and Im set