Originally Posted by PainandGain

His ego is wildly out of control.
Look at the way he holds himself and moves around.

Originally Posted by P-funk

The Levrone Transformation starts today. « Levrone Report

Doing it it "natural" doesn't seem to be consistent with the gains he claims he is going to make.

patrick

Originally Posted by Prince

not sure whether he can actually continue to gain 5lbs per week for 8 weeks, but I believe him as far as not using steroids...why would he lie about that?

Originally Posted by Prince

this is going to be fun to watch, here is his first day back in the gym:

YouTube Video

Originally Posted by Prince

two things to keep in mind about Levrone:

1. Genetic freak
2. Muscle memory

Originally Posted by Moondogg

Do you think he will make it to 245lbs?

Originally Posted by Prince

maybe, not ripped though.

Originally Posted by bio-chem

can genetics and muscle memory really have that big of an impact? 2lbs a week is amazing and this guy is going to be doing 5?

Originally Posted by Moondogg

3000cals a day to put on 5lbs of muscle a week? Now that isnt possible. It take somewhere around 2500cals to synthesize one new pound of muscle tissue, how is he going to do this eating only 3000cals a day.

I eat 4000cals a day and work my ass off to maybe gain 2lbs of muscle a MONTH. I just dont see how this is possible.

Originally Posted by Mags

Didn't Flex Wheeler do something similar once? I thought I'd read/seen an account where he competed for a show (I even think it was the Olympia) where he said he was doing it all 'natural'. As it turned out, I think he'd I'd been on gear while building up to the show, but was then 'off' the juice pre-contest and for the show. Which doesn't really count. Maybe Levrone will do the same and claim that it's still 'natural'. However, I might be way off with this whole post.

Originally Posted by plums_jp

im not saying he's lying... i just dont find those gains to be attainable without aas therefore i doubt he will do it but it would be neat

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

I don't see how 5lbs a week is possible naturally, and only eating 3000K a day. He mentions ramping up from 1500 calories...so my question is does he live off 1500 calories at 206lbs? Is 3000K really his bulking magic number?

Originally Posted by Mags

Particularly when the average amount of calories recommended for men (in the UK) each day is 2500. That's for 'normal' folk who don't even exercise, too.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

Yeah this has me at a loss...I feel like I am starving on 2500 calories a day, and still lose weight at 3000 per day working out on average 5 times a week without any cardio.

I might find time to email him more about the diet to see if there is a logic behind his low calorie diet, and gaining muscle...seems a bit weird and fishy to me...I think even on gear you would be very hard pressed to put on 40lbs of muscle in 2 months on a 3K calorie diet...even with perfectly ideal genetics and muscle memmory. I just don't think that is enough food to grow, and sustain the energy of that much muscle.

Originally Posted by Prince

hmmm...is this the reason for his "comeback"? Levrone Nutrition - "The Secret" Coming Soon

Originally Posted by P-funk

Oh, Prince, you asked previously, "why would he lie about doing it without steroids."

My guess would be so that he could show amazing results and claim that he is all natural and used his special products and hard work to get results.

Patrick

Originally Posted by Prince

well, after finding that site I posted above its all becoming very clear!

I am finding it a bit hard to believe that he can bench 315lbs and leg press 700lbs 10 times after not doing either exercise for 4 years.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

Ok I'm going to try my best to support his whole show. Even with drugs its impressive what he is trying to do...so I wont knock him until its over, and he claims it wasn't with drugs.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I read on another site that he is not doing this for a BB'ing contest (which I thought he was?), but rather for a movie role where he needs to be a little bigger? Does anyone know if that is true?

Patrick

Originally Posted by Prince

I am enjoying his videos and I like seeing one of the best physiques ever starting over like this, only time will tell but as of now he shows no signs of steroid use, we'll see if that changes in the next few weeks.

Originally Posted by Prince

June 2, 2009

I’ll Be Back

Sadly I’ve been out the past few days due to suffering a loss in the family. Be back shortly. Kevin

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

Just a thought...why would he tell camera guy to keep camera on the bi's...how about put on some shorts and lets see those legs in action....its a leg workout right?

Originally Posted by quadluver

He's so skinny. What a waste.

Originally Posted by quadluver

He's so skinny. What a waste.

Originally Posted by rahaas

What's the story behind going from competing BB'r to what appears to be starting over?
Health reasons? Just decided to take a long break from training?

Originally Posted by P-funk

I believe he stopped BB'ing to pursue a career in acting.

Originally Posted by rahaas

What's the story behind going from competing BB'r to what appears to be starting over?
Health reasons? Just decided to take a long break from training?

Originally Posted by Mudge

He also claimed to never train except for competitions, especially when he got into music. He would not train for 6 months at a time (according to him), then start training a few months out from a show.

Originally Posted by Prince

yup, he can get in Mr. O shape in 4 months after not training for 6 months, according to him.

Originally Posted by Prince

yup, he can get in Mr. O shape in 4 months after not training for 6 months, according to him.

Originally Posted by rahaas

That's a pretty respectable competition record.

Is this really possible even with the use of AAS?
I've read about some BB'rs training very little prior to a competition, but no training for 6 months?
BTW: I'm just asking not slamming or doubting the guy at all. He must have some amazing genetics.

Originally Posted by m11

Shakes aren't really supplements like something like creatine would be. Shakes are simply liquid calories. A 4oz portion of chicken breast generally has about 30 grams of protein...which is usually a little more protein than 1 serving of most shakes. The added fat and carbs that you find in some shakes may provide more calories than a serving of boneless skinless chicken breast, but by adding more food to the meal...it would be equivalent in benefit to a shake of similar calories. The shake is just perhaps a easier way of taking in calories compared to preparing a meal.

Originally Posted by m11

Shakes aren't really supplements like something like creatine would be. Shakes are simply liquid calories. A 4oz portion of chicken breast generally has about 30 grams of protein...which is usually a little more protein than 1 serving of most shakes. The added fat and carbs that you find in some shakes may provide more calories than a serving of boneless skinless chicken breast, but by adding more food to the meal...it would be equivalent in benefit to a shake of similar calories. The shake is just perhaps a easier way of taking in calories compared to preparing a meal.

Originally Posted by Prince

I consider a protein shake a supplement, I also believe that using whey protein isolate post work-out is superior to eating any type of food, the absorption rate is considerably higher as well as the quality of protein.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

why do you believe that-I've used both and cant really gauge that big of a difference.

Originally Posted by rahaas

He must have kept up on some training while pursuing other ventures even though he may deny it.

Originally Posted by Prince

definitely, I believe the only thing he asserts is that he has not done any free weights in 4 years, or any real "bodybuilding movements", but I am sure he has done some type of work-out the past 4 years to maintain his physique at a fitness level.

Originally Posted by Prince

I consider a protein shake a supplement, I also believe that using whey protein isolate post work-out is superior to eating any type of food, the absorption rate is considerably higher as well as the quality of protein.

Originally Posted by Gazhole

Anything that adds to your diet that isn't food in a literal sense is a supplement - it is supplemental to your regular diet for the purposes of convenience in getting the required amount of X nutrient. Thats what a supplement is. A supplement isn't some alien substance that affects your body in a special way, its just some aspect of nutrition concentrated into a powder or a pill.

Creatine is found in red meat, so by your definition all i would have to do to get creatine is eat a lot of red meat thus making creatine not a supplement. Amino acid supplements are supplements, but a lot of amino acids are found in regular dietary sources. So are EFAs. You could make the point you just made about anything.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

To say that a protein shake is not a supplement is crazy. When you drink a shake you are supplementing protein in your diet. I would tend to believe a whey shake gets processed in your body much faster then if you eat solid foods. Therefore increasing protein uptake in that 30-60 minute window of opportunity after a workout. Kevin actually mentions how its ideal to get protein in your body shorty after a workout in his video. I am shocked a little with his method since I would have to conclude the 30g of protein from 4oz of chicken would not be used in the body for quite a bit of time after consumption.

Originally Posted by Prince

definitely, I believe the only thing he asserts is that he has not done any free weights in 4 years, or any real "bodybuilding movements", but I am sure he has done some type of work-out the past 4 years to maintain his physique at a fitness level.

Originally Posted by rahaas

I'm thinking with acting tryouts "bulking" is probably out of the question. I'm not sure if I believe no free weights in 4 years. You would think - not using it would have lost it - in that amount of time and any type of cardo would have accelerated that. Again I'm just speculating based on what would happened to the rest of us if we'd have done the same.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

"custom nutritional ingredient specialist"....I thought they closed down balco?

But seriously what a title! And 16lb of muscle in three weeks in insane. I think would have been cool had he done a body composition test before and after so what changes are made are documented. I'd like to know how he came to his figure of 16lbs of muscle gained even though he lost weight. I'm not saying its false, but we have discussed this on forums a lot, and I've concluded that you can't lose weight and gain muscle even on steroids. I don't know if I agree with that, but that seems to be the overall thoughts of the members. And in Kevins case he lost weight, and gained a very large amount of muscle.

Originally Posted by Prince

the thing that everyone seems to forget is he is/was a pro bodybuilder with great genetics and muscle memory, you cannot compare his progress to the average person.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

I'd like to think his body is using 100% of his food, and his fat stores to build 16 pounds of muscle, but I don't think the body regardless of genetics is programed to do that.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

I agree with that, but gaining significant amounts of muscle while losing fat is considered not possible. I understand genetics and muscle memory play a huge roll in his rapid gains, but does that allow someone the ability to do the impossible? I can't wrap my mind around how you can lose weight, and gain that much muscle off a diet that is promoting fat loss. Genetics is a term used too loose IMO. Our bodies all work the same, some just respond better then others. I'd like to think his body is using 100% of his food, and his fat stores to build 16 pounds of muscle, but I don't think the body reguardless of genetics is programed to do that.

Originally Posted by Prince

the thing that everyone seems to forget is he is/was a pro bodybuilder with great genetics and muscle memory, you cannot compare his progress to the average person.

Originally Posted by rahaas

Don't think it's so much forgetting as don't understand it because most of us don't have it or have ever had muscle memory occur.

Originally Posted by Malcom

he has excess skin on his belly, i just noticed

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

probably a combo of size loss, and mostly age.

Originally Posted by Malcom

i can see y people like Lou dont wanna let go on the roids

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

He looks great...only thing I keep seeing that is normal, his the man's crib. For a guy that has so much success you'd think he'd have a nicer house. Not some multi-million dollar pad, but something a little nicer then what I have.

Originally Posted by P-funk

I think he probably just makes a modest living.

Originally Posted by Prince

When I’m in the gym I feel great. You don’t see the hard parts. Sometimes I have trouble getting out of the car, moving around, sleeping. I’m really sore.

Originally Posted by rahaas

Welcome to my world Mr Levrone; the world of old age and weight training

Originally Posted by Prince

damn, 40 is old?

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

He looks great...only thing I keep seeing that is normal, his the man's crib. For a guy that has so much success you'd think he'd have a nicer house. Not some multi-million dollar pad, but something a little nicer then what I have.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

My wife says I'm 16 mentally.

Originally Posted by Prince

I agree with her.

Originally Posted by Prince

Originally Posted by PainandGain

If you watch his vids he says he hasn't lifted ANY weights in 4 years.

Originally Posted by juggernaut

the sad thing is he looks "normal". I'm not downplaying his accomplishments, but wtf??

Originally Posted by Mudge

Seriously. Every 40 year old I know has 19" arms.

Originally Posted by Prince

so far Kevin does not appear to be using steroids, no signs yet anyway.

Originally Posted by Prince

so far Kevin does not appear to be using steroids, no signs yet anyway.

Originally Posted by Prince

June 20, 2009

Levrone Transformation, End Of Week Four

Check out the photo from end of week four. That’s what’s up, baby. Great week. I had a little help from some natural ingredients, and a lot of help from you guys. Those last two workouts were the most productive and most enjoyable, and I can’t wait to get back in the gym. The focus next week is legs, every other day, I’m going to shock the muscles and make ‘em respond.

I’m training hard, eating right, getting rest and I’m on the right supplement – a mixture of things that worked in my past, combined with some cutting-edge new ingredients that I’ve been curious about. I needed to know exactly what I was getting, and I needed it to just plain WORK. Mission accomplished. This week was full of long, focused, explosive workouts, minimal muscle burn and one of the most incredible pumps I can remember. All natural, baby.

Some of you are attacking bigger weights after seeing what I’ve been able to accomplish. If I’m helping you do more, you gotta know the feeling’s mutual. I’m addicted to doing this blog, so keep posting. If you see a question I’ve answered before, please answer on my behalf. Let me know what you’re achieving with your workouts. One of you told me you attacked 70-pound dums for the first time – I live for that stuff, man, so keep it coming. Out.

End of week 4 pic:

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

I compared last two photos side by side, not much of a difference I can see other then the new photo is taken closer up, making it look larger.

I don't care for how its leading into a big sales pitch, but still cool to watch.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

"this ingredient"...lol...I also like how he says he doesn't put junk in his body and never has...I find that hard to believe, unless boat loads of steroids is not "junk".

Anyways I hate the "secret ingredient" pitch...this is ruining it for me.

My bet is this is a combo of gugglestrones, b-12, DHEA, and possibly another hormonal like substance that isn't on the ban list, yet.

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

Who is MIA, Prince or KL?

Originally Posted by rahaas

My curiosity has peaked and am interested to find out what he's taking. I don't care if he's trying to sell something, hell I might even buy it myself if it works that good.

Originally Posted by P-funk

marketing for the win!!


patrick

Originally Posted by rahaas

My curiosity has peaked and am interested to find out what he's taking. I don't care if he's trying to sell something, hell I might even buy it myself if it works that good.

Originally Posted by rahaas

Did I say something funny?

Originally Posted by Prince

I am done updating this thread since the majority of comments are negative, if you want to see his progress go to LevroneReport.com

Originally Posted by Prince

Levrone Agrees to Steroid Test!
by John Romano

Bodybuilding icon Kevin Levrone's appearance on Heavy Muscle Radio this past Monday night, June 29, 2009, comes at the end of the fifth week of an amazing transformation "experiment" that he's taken on. So impressive are Levrone's recent gains in muscle and reductions in bodyfat, Dave Palumbo and I actually accused Kevin, on the air, of taking performance-enhancing drugs in order to realize these superhuman changes. Levrone vehemently denied any such allegation and put it out there, publicly, that he'd be willing to submit to drug testing; any time we wanted. In fact, Kevin requested that he be tested as soon as possible so that no one can accuse him of using fast-acting steroids that would clear his system before we got a change to check him out.

Dave and I had no choice but to take Kevin up on his challenge. While Dave is convinced Kevin is using "gear", I hope he's not. I hope he's telling the truth. I think it would be really inspirational to a lot of young people to know that Kevin did this naturally. However, it really doesn't matter to me. Even on a boatload of drugs, the gains Kevin has made in such a short time frame is nothing short of miraculous. I've known a lot of guys who used steroids over the years and I've never seen such an incredible transformation. Kevin is a true freak. But since Levrone did put it out there, we would be remiss as reporters if we didn't follow through with such a bold challenge. We will be speaking with Victor Conte-- a noteworthy resource in the area of performance-enhancing drugs-- regarding a reliable urine test, protocol, and trustworthy lab. We also have a noteworthy physician on hand to ensure that the administered tests and test results are not tampered with in any way whatsoever.

Stay tuned for updates on the Kevin Levrone drugtest! Details and updates will apear on the RX Muscle forums and when his test results come back from the lab we'll have Kevin back on Heavy Muscle Radio to discuss the outcome. Imagine the thrashing Dave and I are going to get if it turns out Kevin was clean?

For the complete story, listen to this past Monday, June 29th, edition of Heavy Muscle Radio.

source

Originally Posted by rahaas

Did I say something funny?

Originally Posted by Prince

I am done updating this thread since the majority of comments are negative, if you want to see his progress go to LevroneReport.com

Originally Posted by rahaas

There's a good interview of KL by Palumbo & Romano on RxMuscle Radio. He's agreed to testing to prove no drug use during this transformation & hints of possibilities after the 8 weeks.

Originally Posted by Malcom

It makes me laugh because even tho we all know its leading to a sell pitch, ur still ready to buy into,like the kids from the gym who will believe anything you tell them,for me its hilarious.

Originally Posted by rahaas

^ cool video. Going to be interesting to see him get back into that kind of shape.

Originally Posted by danzik17

Freaking unbelievable.

Originally Posted by Prince

when anyone asks what it means to have muscle memory, and of course great genetics, here ya go, 7 weeks of training:

Originally Posted by TrojanMan60563

Nice work...he is cocky but I suppose he has a reason to be.

Originally Posted by glennmo

So has anyone heard what his secret supplement is ?