homebrew powder

**cutright** · 03-08-2011, 06:29 AM

In the hospital sector they heat to 200 for 15 minutes and call it good. As far as sterile goes... Just FYI

**cutright** · 03-08-2011, 06:38 AM

So what's the best ratio for BA and BB then...not sure about that EO lol
Oh yea got my stericup and pump set up can't wait to try it out.

**Aaron S.** · 03-08-2011, 08:25 AM

Originally Posted by brundel

I wouldnt even heat at 350. There really is no need.
My GF works at a compounding pharmacy...they compound all kinds of hormones there including but not limited to test. They dont bake anything.
If you sterile filter through a .22 your good to go.
BA keeps things sterile.

Depending on hormone:
1-2% BA ----2 is good to be safe but my pharmacy stuff has .9 which...is less than 1%.
BB% or none at all depending on hormone.

Im answering Pm's all day long so youll have to refresh my memory, Which compound are you making?

3 way test 1/3 prop, 1/3 isocaproate, 1/3 decanoate. I do everything just about the same way (i'm embarrassed to tell you that) i'll use the .22 from now on....Hey man i need to know something. I have a bunch of propylene glycol. What the situation brundel ? Can i use this to suspend prop ? How high can i take the milligram ?

**Aaron S.** · 03-08-2011, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by brundel

Zip lock bag. I would double bag it ...
Keep it in a cool place free from moisture...so not the freezer.
Its fine after you open it just take out what you need and reseal.

I totaly agree. If i put it in the freezer it can get moist. Moisture makes it cloudy. Don't think cloudy is dangerous but no one will want to buy it like that. I sure wouldn't buy something that was cloudy.

**cutright** · 03-08-2011, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Aaron S.

I totaly agree. If i put it in the freezer it can get moist. Moisture makes it cloudy. Don't think cloudy is dangerous but no one will want to buy it like that. I sure wouldn't buy something that was cloudy.

Yep already stored it properly your about 3 weeks late lol get on here more bro

**brundel** · 03-08-2011, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by cutright

In the hospital sector they heat to 200 for 15 minutes and call it good. As far as sterile goes... Just FYI

Right. Most commonly used is an autoclave.
I dont know anyone who puts their gear in an auto clave though.

**brundel** · 03-08-2011, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by cutright

So what's the best ratio for BA and BB then...not sure about that EO lol
Oh yea got my stericup and pump set up can't wait to try it out.

2% BA is plenty
10%-20% BB. You can get away with 10% but sometimes the vials crash.
20% your golden.

**cutright** · 03-08-2011, 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by brundel

2% BA is plenty
10%-20% BB. You can get away with 10% but sometimes the vials crash.
20% your golden.

Nice...2 and 20 it is! Thanks bro

**brundel** · 03-08-2011, 04:21 PM

I cant steer anyone in a direction for raw materials.
I can help you with how to compound them once you have them.

I will tell you that with b2b sites you have to be careful.
Some people are going to flat out rob you. Others are cops. Some are the real deal.
Better to find a domestic source or trusted chinese or indian source.

**phosphor** · 03-08-2011, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by brundel

I cant steer anyone in a direction for raw materials.
I can help you with how to compound them once you have them.

I will tell you that with b2b sites you have to be careful.
Some people are going to flat out rob you. Others are cops. Some are the real deal.
Better to find a domestic source or trusted chinese or indian source.

Sorry, I meant compounds instead of the raw - I read up on making it from raw and it was not an endeavor I am interested in. I have to learn how to crawl before running a marathon.

I will take your advice on the warning. I would rather not piss money away and certainly not want an mysterious knock on my door. I will just continue with this site and see where it takes me. If I use the patience and determination like I have on my diet regimen, then I am sure good things will come sooner or later. In the meantime, I may go through the overspending method with pre-mades until something comes along that's good and stock up. Thank you for the advice.

**cutright** · 03-08-2011, 05:47 PM

If you hang around a little you will find what you seek! Lol

**Aaron S.** · 03-08-2011, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by cutright

Yep already stored it properly your about 3 weeks late lol get on here more bro

Hey bro i spent 25 dollars on a hand vac and the bags to go with it at walmart and it was a hell of an investment man. For real it sucks all the air (most bacteria needs air to grow) out. Then i roll the bag up really tight and tape it. Last time i did something with it it was sealed up so tight it had rocked up (a little crack lingo..!). i think if it gets that dense it will be hard for any air to affect it. Air and moisture (and of course exposure to bacteria) are the worst enemies you can have when you have a centigram or Ki that you plan on lasting you 50 cycles. It works so well dude. Soo worth it. Brand i bought was foodsaver/freshsaver.

**cutright** · 03-10-2011, 05:12 PM

Test e

**brundel** · 03-10-2011, 11:16 PM

Looks tasty

**cutright** · 03-11-2011, 06:56 AM

Anyone have a hook up on filtered GSO?

**brundel** · 03-11-2011, 10:33 AM

Researchsupply

**cutright** · 03-11-2011, 11:59 AM

That's where I go now^^^just trying to save a $ lol

**brundel** · 03-11-2011, 12:19 PM

Your gonna filter your gear anyways.
There is no need for filtered GSO.
I got mine at the grocery store.

**cutright** · 03-11-2011, 12:24 PM

Really? Should I filter it by itself or just double filter or just run it all through once and heat?

**brundel** · 03-11-2011, 12:38 PM

If you run everything through a .22 you only need one pass.
Just warm all the gear and oil and pass through a filter.

**cutright** · 03-11-2011, 03:24 PM

Thanks again bro^^^^^^!

**Rockstarz** · 03-11-2011, 10:50 PM

Originally Posted by Stu Pidasso

Many of those suppliers do indeed sell hormone powders for the use of research and or manufacturing. The thing is many of those so called providers are owned and operated my the DEA and Department of Homeland Security. So you may or may not get your stuff, but you also may get to make many new freiends inn the progress. Never think for a minute that you are the first and only to make such a find. I have toyed with the idea for a while and it is tempting, but damn this is one of those things you either do great at it or you get caught. That is why z quit selling cake mix because custmoms wondered what all the satchels of powder was all aboout. Lot os risk inviolved, but the prices of super sweet only iff......

I couldn't help seeing the comment about the DEA & Homeland Security being owners and operators of homone powder facilities....? I could see American pharmaceutical companies being involved, but DEA/Homeland?

I would think they'd have much better things to be doing other than chasing down a few weekend warriors with a vial or two of homebrew.

Lord, they need to get real jobs if that's the best they can do.

Who knows though....?

**brundel** · 03-12-2011, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Rockstarz

I couldn't help seeing the comment about the DEA & Homeland Security being owners and operators of homone powder facilities....? I could see American pharmaceutical companies being involved, but DEA/Homeland?

I would think they'd have much better things to be doing other than chasing down a few weekend warriors with a vial or two of homebrew.

Lord, they need to get real jobs if that's the best they can do.

Who knows though....?

They dont operate anything except operation arrest you.
They pretend to be selling illegal substances, they wait for you to buy them, keep your cash and arrest you. I dont know about homeland security....but the DEA...thats their job.

**brundel** · 03-12-2011, 12:21 AM

Remember DEA is Drug Enforcement Agency.

**cutright** · 03-12-2011, 07:48 AM

Yea so don't do anything illegal I don't! All my comments and pictures are mostly googled copy and pasted I just like to joke around And play make believe alot. I would never brake my country's laws!

**Aaron S.** · 03-12-2011, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by brundel

Your gonna filter your gear anyways.
There is no need for filtered GSO.
I got mine at the grocery store.

No kidding. a liter of it a reserach supply is pretty steep.

**Aaron S.** · 03-13-2011, 11:24 AM

Originally Posted by cutright

Hell yeah bro that's awesome did u send her my love

You know i didn't but i'll remember to do that next time.

**cutright** · 03-13-2011, 02:40 PM

Looking at the filtered vs the unfiltered GSO is a big price difference. It says the filtered has been ran through a .22 that's all! So if I filter with a .22 When I brew it's cool to use unfiltered?

**cutright** · 03-13-2011, 03:20 PM

And Also I can filter it myself with the 1000ml .22 stericup for $25 that's still gonna save about $50 bucks off the filtered price...what do you guys go with filtered or non?
Last post about oil...lol

**brundel** · 03-13-2011, 06:00 PM

I copy n pasted this from a post of mine at MD.
Im too lazy to rewrite..

Sterilizing oil for injection.

Often people pay an arm and a leg for filtered oil. Somewhere in the realm of 17$ for

100ml.This is insane as its very cheap to buy. You can buy a couple liters of safflower oil

or grapeseed oil from your local grocery store and filter it yourself.

Lets start with 1000ml just to get the idea.
You will need:
1000ml, your oil of choice
1x Millipore 22um stericup filter and receiver cup combo. * You will also need a hand pump
1x septa top

1. Setup your filter by attaching pump and filling the top with 1000ml oil.
2. Give the pump a few squeezes untill the PSI guage reades 8.5-9 (no higher).
3. Every few min squeeze a few more times to keep pressure at 8.5-9 PSI.
4. When all the oil has been filtered carefully remove septa top from packaging and carefully replace the filter on top of the receiver with the septa top being careful not to infect the bottle.
The septa top has a silicon stopper that allows a needle to pass through and you to draw oil from it in smaller than 1000ml increments.
You can add 10ml of BA if you want but there is not really any need unless you plan on injecting the oil straight from the flask. For example, you are cutting a bottle of prop shot by shot. (not recommended)
Usually you will be filtering the oil again so the BA can be added then.
I say 10 ml BA so that you can add another 10ml when preparing an injectable =2%
You can usually run 3000 ml easy through a filter and even more if you use a prefilter.
There is usually not a reason to produce more than 1k sterile oil at a time.
No you do not need to heat it. A 22um pore filter wont let anything through. It shouldnt take more than 2-5 min.

Good luck

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