Thread: Carrier Oils

I don’t understand why so many UGL’s use grape seed oil whenall my pharm grade stuff contains sesame oil. Why is this? I personally think Iwant to stay with what is proven by the big pharm companies. Am I wrong.?

I believe grape seed oil is supposed to be thinner therefore smoother. I have not compared the two so I have no first hand experience. Just what I've read.

My trt test e contains sesame oil however my HB test e is brewed with GSO and my HB is thinner. On top of that i dont use BB only BA at 2% and its still thinner go figure.

I have used sesame oil and grape seed oil
I like both. Whatever is handy

OILS

Cottonseed oil:
Cottonseed oil is a waste product of the cotton industry, so it costs the food manufacturers next to nothing to procure a plentiful supply. The only problem with this is that cotton is not a food crop, therefore is not subject to the same restrictions as to pesticide and fungicide levels. In fact, cotton is one of the most heavily sprayed crops in the world. There are quite often toxic levels of pesticides and fungicides left over and since Im not willing to bet the filtering gets it out. It is light in color and fairly thin. This oil is commonly used in pharmaceutical grade gear again due to its price and availability.

Grapeseed oil:
Grapeseed Oil is by far the best IMHO. Aside from the information I gave about cottonseed oil, Grapeseed oil is fairly thin has a low risk for allergic reaction and has a number of additional side benefits which include...3,6 and 9 unsaturated fats. Linoleic acid for example. Grapeseed oil also contains Antioxidants and an additional compound that I found quite interesting. Resveratrol. well known for its heart-health and life-extending benefits is also an Estrogen blocker. Because of its unique chemical structure which binds to the estrogen receptor, thus blocking estrogenic activity, it has the ability to increase LH and FSH. The estrogen modulating effects of resveratrol have been proven to dramatically increase testosterone levels, fertility, and erection strength in several animal studies, without any side-effects. Other research with resveratrol has uncovered its supportive role in healthy blood vessel function. Grapeseed man... Grapeseed oil is generally green in color with a low viscosity. This in my opinion is the choice for homebrewers and kitchen chemists.

Soybean oil:
Most people have not used this product but I hear good things. Here is a study I found where soybean oil was used as a vehicle for injectable testosterone with good results.

Document title
Pharmacokinetics and pharmacodynamics of injectable testosterone undecanoate in castrated cynomolgus monkeys (Macaca fascicularis) are independent ofdifferent oil vehicles
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
WISTUBA Joachim ; LUETJENS C. Marc ; KAMISCHKE Axel ; GU Yi-Qun ; SCHLATT Stefan ; SIMONI Manuela ; NIESCHLAG Eberhard ;
Résumé / Abstract
Testosterone undecanoate (TU) dissolved in soybean oil was developed in China to improve the pharmacokinetics of this testosterone ester in comparison with TU in castor or tea seed oil. As a pre-clinical primate model, three groups of five castrated cynomolgus macaques received either a single intramuscular injection of 10 mg/kg bodyweight TU in soybean oil, in tea seed oil, or in castor oil (equals 6.3 mg pure T/kg bodyweight for all preparations). Testosterone, estradiol, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone as well as prostate volume, body weight and ejaculate weight were evaluated. After injection supraphysiological testosterone levels were induced. There were no significant differences in the pharmacokinetics of the three TU preparations for testosterone and estradiol. The gonadotropin levels showed a high individual variation. Prostate volumes increased equally in all groups after administration and declined to castrate level afterwards. The results suggest that TU in soybean oil produces similar effects as TU in the other vehicles. This study in non-human primates provides no objection to testing of this new preparation in humans.
Revue / Journal Title
Journal of medical primatology ISSN 0047-2565 CODEN JMPMAO
Source / Source
2005, vol. 34, no4, pp. 178-187 [10 page(s) (article)]
Langue / Language
Anglais
Editeur / Publisher
Blackwell, Oxford, ROYAUME-UNI (1972) (Revue)
Mots-clés d'auteur / Author Keywords
castor oil ; macaque ; pharmacokinetics ; soybean oil ; tea seed oil ; testosterone undecanoate ;
Localisation / Location
INIST-CNRS, Cote INIST : 15665, 35400013816336.0030

Oh ya I have used soybean oil.
no issues at all. Good ole veggie oil

GSO here.

My script test is cottonseed oil, my ugl deca is gso. The cottonseed oil is much thinner.

Originally Posted by bigmoe65

My script test is cottonseed oil, my ugl deca is gso. The cottonseed oil is much thinner.

I think the same.

Cottonseed is thinner than GSO? Looks like I might have to give it a shot!

The gso I was using is golden colored. But I went shopping and now they carrier a green colored gso.

Anyone know why there is gold and green colored? Both are 100% purity as well.


5"10
195lbs

Currently cycle:
Cruising on 250mg Test Cyp/week.

Originally Posted by Thresh

The gso I was using is golden colored. But I went shopping and now they carrier a green colored gso.

Anyone know why there is gold and green colored? Both are 100% purity as well.


5"10
195lbs

Currently cycle:
Cruising on 250mg Test Cyp/week.

The deca I have in gso is a light green color also. Im assuming its virgin gso, kinda like olive oil.

Sweet tea for me!

I like gso. The sesame oil was too thick for me.

Big pharma uses sesame oil because it's the least likely to go rancid. It contains some natural antioxidants, so it's somewhat self-preserving. Great if you're a pharma company that might hold gear for a month or more in a warehouse. Freshness is less of a problem with sesame oil.

10w 40 for me just kidding.
Are all oils different in colors because I always get a yellowish tint on all oils I buy.

If one wanted a nice green tint to their brew, would they use extra extra virgin olive oil, you know the really green one made from baby olives

I'm pretty sure I've read that olive oil is not a good carrier. I don't remember why.

Originally Posted by hill450

I'm pretty sure I've read that olive oil is not a good carrier. I don't remember why.

High fatty acid content maybe?

Originally Posted by colochine

High fatty acid content maybe?

Maybe, I can't remember exactly why but pretty sure someone said it should NEVER be used. Maybe it was brundel?

Just about any oil works fine long as u filter it.
Don't over think it.
Safflower oil is nice to

Originally Posted by keith1569

Just about any oil works fine long as u filter it.
Don't over think it.
Safflower oil is nice to

safflower actually dose work very well

I wouldn't even attempt olive oil, it is far too thick, and it can go rancid fairly quickly...

Is there a brand preference on any of the oil out just what is on sale? There is the regular safflower oil at the grocery store for less than three bucks for 24oz and grape seed is all over the place in pricing.

Don't overthink it guys its just oil. Use what is easy to get

Well that was easy.

Originally Posted by suprfast

Is there a brand preference on any of the oil out just what is on sale? There is the regular safflower oil at the grocery store for less than three bucks for 24oz and grape seed is all over the place in pricing.

I would recommend medical grade oils, not food grade.

Originally Posted by hoyle21

I would recommend medical grade oils, not food grade.

Unfortunately there is no difference. Even USP grade oils often have a disclaimer stating they rebottled the oil and don't guarantee sterile.

If you want it sterile, do it yourself.




5"10
195lbs

Currently cycle:
Cruising on 250mg Test Cyp/week.

Yeah go for medical grade oils. Food grade oils aren't held to the same standards. There can be chemicals/pesticides or other stuff in there.

Now you don't have to buy "Filtered" oil because you are already filtering it.