Thread: home brewed test e painful

How many injections have you done with this batch? Sometimes you get a painful injection or two for absolutely no reason!

If you are a few injections in and it still hurts then something else is going on.

when i posted just one. just did another one about a half hour ago but i cut it with filtered gso. did this before with some painful test e i had (not home brewed) and it worked out well. also it took about 2 day for the pip to kick in with batch i just made

Might be the raws bro.

Originally Posted by colochine

Might be the raws bro.

i dont think the powders are dirty the filters still looked pretty clean when i was done filtering. i think i remember reading somewhere thats sometimes that when manufacturer skips the last step in the esterification of testosterone enanthate. witch i think has something to do with not washing the acids off used during the esterification process and that's what causing the pip. i just cant remember where i read it and having a hard time finding that info again to back up what i think.

the acid that has not been removed is called carbolic acid witch can make the powders acidic and painful to use once converted into injectable form witch would make sense knowing how i react to gso and the ratio of solvents used and where the filters are still pretty clean and no signs of infection ( redness at injection site, fever, extreme swelling)of course this all speculation at this point

Ive had the same thing happen. To the naked eye the raws looked good/smelled good. Inject it and your ass would swell as big as a grapefruit. Using the same oil/solvents, diff raws, no problem.

Sounds like you have bad raws.

Originally Posted by FordFan

Sounds like you have bad raws.

^^this

Originally Posted by FordFan

Ive had the same thing happen. To the naked eye the raws looked good/smelled good. Inject it and your ass would swell as big as a grapefruit. Using the same oil/solvents, diff raws, no problem.

Sounds like you have bad raws.

i totally agree, at this point i just want to know whats causing the pip. if i know maybe i can prevent it or at least reduce it

I have the same problem... All time I inject I need to take some NSAID to prevent pain and soreness... It's a debilitating pain, that can let you very tired and feeling ill.

I have three theories:

1) I used .45 filter and it let too many particles pass
2) I did it very concentrated (~250/300)
3) The oil that I've used is too thick (soybean)

I don't think it's #1, so I'll test brewing a 200mg/ml batch... I'm in doubt if it's the soybean oil so I'll inject 1ml of filtered soybean oil to see if the feeling is the same, if not, probably it's the concentration of the brew. In addition, if it continues hurting I'll deduce that the "powder" (it's a gelly) is a bad quality one.

You could split the content of one vial in two and then complete what's missing with oil to see if it reduces the pain... Give me a response!

just want to update that my 2nd shot that i cut with 1ml of gso to 1ml dosed at 250mg of my hb went way better. basicly no pip at all friggin pumped. going to do my 3rd shot tonite but i'm only going to use 1/2 ml of gso this time and c how that go's.will report back in about 3 days

So I think the too much concentrated theory is the explanation for the pain...

Originally Posted by TREMBO

So I think the too much concentrated theory is the explanation for the pain...

what i think why i''m dealing pip is. what i said in post's #5 and #6

Originally Posted by tjsulli

what i think why i''m dealing pip is. what i said in post's #5 and #6

There could be a collection of ammino's from estrification that were not thoroughly cleaned off...If you have pain from Test E. at 250mg/ml your powder isn't 100% straight. It's not like you used a shit ton of BA.

Sorry for redundancy i should have read the entire thread before making myself sound like a dumbass.

I'm glad someone mentioned this. I've had someone with same response. so you're mixing half cc and half cc of gso? Then shooting and its helping?

Originally Posted by Quez82

I'm glad someone mentioned this. I've had someone with same response. so you're mixing half cc and half cc of gso? Then shooting and its helping?

1cc test 250 to 1cc gso no pip at all 1cc te 250 to 1/2 cc gso very little pip. my next batch i'm going to try to drop the dose down to 200mg skip the bb and just use 2% ba and rest gso and c how that works out.most likely wont be for another 6 weeks or so but will report back when that time comes

Must've had the same batch. Crazy.

Originally Posted by Quez82

Must've had the same batch. Crazy.

Same here ? Can anyone tell me how to buy sterile grapeseed oil, or how to do it ? Thx.

Hopefully you guys are filtering your cutting oil.......

Here is how to make sterile oil.

Get yourself:

100ml sterile sealed vial
60ml syringe
couple 18g needles
.22 syringe filter
GSO

Heat DO NOT BOIL or over heat gso can go rancid super easy.
Warm it up a bit.
Draw into 60ml syringe
attach filter and 18g needle
stick another needle tip into the vial to vent
Filter into the vial

Now you have clean oil for cutting.

I may have gotten the same stuff, weird. Never had this before but recent batch of test E is not painless as it usually is

Test e @ 250 is smooth as butter.

Same ratios tren e was awful.
Cut it down to 200 and its better but still some pain. Raws came from same supplier.

wow, i can't believe there is this much issue with your raw! I personally don't use test e very often, only when i'm going to use test as my only AA. basically when i'm coasting. I think the stuff is to unstable. It melts into slime at room temp and gets stuck to the bag making it hard to weigh and work with. If this ever happened to me (pain at a normal mg/ml) i would use another supplier and try to get reimbursed.

Brundel - excellent post about sterilizing your cutting oil. I use to just heat it up and put it through a coffee filter...i know, no one needs to give me shit about doing something so stupid. I filter a ton of it at a time using a .22 now.

Is there anyway to cut the acidity down? Is there an inert base you could add then refilter to neutralize the carbolic acid?

sodium bicarbonate...?

Not my normal supplier, and won't be using them again. Also only time I've had it come partially melted and not the white waxy stuff I'm used to. Not sure if thats related but it was a pain to work with

Only done two pins with it yet so I can't say for sure if its a fluke or what, but if so I may have to replace them

Sodium hydroxide would work I think but I HIGHLY recommend against you guys trying to use it.
Too much and you would be pretty bummed out with the result.

Enanth sometimes does look waxy and melts very easy if it gets hot.

If it gives PIP it is Carboxylic acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
With is left behind after enanth esterification. It should be removed or made inert before the powder is sold but the chinese are notorious for cutting corners with little regard for your health and safety.
Sure its got test E in it and it works like expected, however, its also got impurities in it. So.....if its got this impurity then there is also a good chance there are others like heavy metals...Id toss it.
There was a huge problem with test E a few years ago with pretty much all of the chinese raws being contaminated.

This is why I only use Cypionate and recommend others do the same.

home brewed test painful some good info here to

Originally Posted by brundel

Sodium hydroxide would work I think but I HIGHLY recommend against you guys trying to use it.
Too much and you would be pretty bummed out with the result.

Enanth sometimes does look waxy and melts very easy if it gets hot.

If it gives PIP it is Carboxylic acid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
With is left behind after enanth esterification. It should be removed or made inert before the powder is sold but the chinese are notorious for cutting corners with little regard for your health and safety.
Sure its got test E in it and it works like expected, however, its also got impurities in it. So.....if its got this impurity then there is also a good chance there are others like heavy metals...Id toss it.
There was a huge problem with test E a few years ago with pretty much all of the chinese raws being contaminated.

This is why I only use Cypionate and recommend others do the same.

I think if one were to go down that route then it would be wise to have some pH strips to check the pH of the solution. do small batches at a time and see if it works. Then probably heat the mixture - to get out the resulting water and refilter.