Thread: Poop's recomp: IronMagLabs 2011 Transformation Challenge

well I am taking trhe VPX redline blacka nd blue pills ANd the Ephedra, caffeine, willow bark (ECA) stack....

I am dosing 1 each in the morning and 1 each in afternoon....

first night, I BARELY slept cuz i was HOT!. I just went to the gym, I drank like over a quart of water and left puddles everywhere i went.

Lol. Ya in dosing less caffeine then most... Maybe 40-120mg alongside each 25mg dose of epedrine Na baby aspirin (81mg) and it's working insanely well with weekends off to let my cns recover a lil.

I'm also taking primordial performance green tea extract for the egcg but only started that the last few days... Seriously I can SEE a difference in the mirror on almost a daily basis. 6 pack is peaking out now n oblques are starting to create the V taper to the groin again... Nice to be getting my body back!

Whats the ingredient list look like on that vpx?

Lol. Ya in dosing less caffeine then most... Maybe 40-120mg alongside each 25mg dose of epedrine Na baby aspirin (81mg) and it's working insanely well with weekends off to let my cns recover a lil.

I'm also taking primordial performance green tea extract for the egcg but only started that the last few days... Seriously I can SEE a difference in the mirror on almost a daily basis. 6 pack is peaking out now n oblques are starting to create the V taper to the groin again... Nice to be getting my body back!

Whats the ingredient list look like on that vpx?

Originally Posted by Poopypants

Whats the ingredient list look like on that vpx?

Redline V2 Fast Fat Loss and Energy Gel Capsules | VPX Spor

hover mouse over supplements facts shaded on right and you will get an enlarged picture pop up....

I thoguht I would try it cuz I wanted to try something other than the oxy pro elite type of burners.

Another update....

Things are going really well now that I've gone on cycle with pplex. Having weight increases for my lifts in the gym every go around, great pumps and I'm sure on my caloric deficit it's doing wonders keeping away catabolism if not keeping me outright in an anabolic state as I'm looking bigger.

In fact my weight has gone up on the scale a few pounds, weighing in at just under 195 while I'm actually getting comments on both looking bigger in the arms/chest and others saying they can see obvious shrinkage of the gut....

I must say in workin the recomp at full tilt losing fat n gaining muscle simultaneously! Gotta love it.

that is awesome!!! gaining muscle and losing fat at same time isnt as hard as everyone seems to have told us, is it?

Prob isn't so easy for most that are trying hard to get to physical points they have never been before... In all honesty I know that I have muscle memory working in my favor. As you can see from the difference in my avatar and my starting photos 2.5 years ago I was in much better shape...

I still didn't think that I'd be making such rapid progress on the fat loss AND still be able to bring my muscles back to their previous stature though.... Working out and having a physical job with a balanced diet can get you far... But without the correct supplementation I don't think I would be able to lose the fat half as fast and def wouldnt be capable of building as much muscle, probably go catabolic in fact...



Another thing to note.....

I've dropped SARM S4.... The vision side effects are much worse then I expected... I'm basically blind in dim-no light situations aka complete loss of night vision... Not cool. The sides were much worse then many others made them out to be. And the format that some suggested to avoid it of dosing 5 days and taking 2 off didn't do jack to stop it . At the very least I know my stuff was legit and possibly even overdosed...

Had some nice results in strength, fat loss and maybe even some muscle sparing effects before starting my cycle but didn't think it's even close to worth while considering the sides when run long term.... May be all right when used post cycle to maintain gains... But only at a veeeerrrry low dose n still cycle in the 5 on 2 off fashion....

Going to pick up some non methyl androgen to stack with phera instead of the S4... Lookin at some prostan or maybe some androhard... Haven't made a final decision yet but I'll be placing my order tomorrow n will make a post here to let everyone know.

Time to rest on my only day off...

In for an update again....

On the 7th I actually decided to take a break from the eca stack... Not cause it was losing effectiveness at all but cause I really wanted to make sure I didn't even get to that point, plus good to give my cns a break from the caffeine for a bit...

I plan on starting it again sometime this week or maybe even going to pick up some alpha t2 from PES n running it alongside some caffeine....

Also picked up a bunch more goodies to continue my cycle with. A couple bottles of prostan n a bottle of halodrol (actually insulified halovar, but its legit).

suckiest thing would be the fact I tried taking some cialis this last week, trying to help out on cycle libido, n paid the price for it.... While on cycle for me its a NoNo.... Back pumps raged out of control within 2 days n then started impinging on my siatic nerve causing insane pain all through my lower back n legs all weekend. still bad again by yesterday evening n from time to time today but its def going down... wasnt worth the extra wood, thats for sure.

Other then that weight is up to 200 all the while my stomach is still showing through more n more along with my love handles just disappearing.... Can't wait to see fat loss boosted back into over drive again once this prostan kicks in AND my eca or alpha-t2/caffeine stack in back in play... Just hope I can get bf% down low enough that I can really put a dent in this gyno fat I got going on.... We will see.

hate gyno fat, (you mean the fat in that area, not gyno itself, right???) I was told by my trainer that area is one of the last places I will lose and when I do, the lower chest will pop and my upper abs will be prominant....

Originally Posted by carmineb

hate gyno fat, (you mean the fat in that area, not gyno itself, right???) I was told by my trainer that area is one of the last places I will lose and when I do, the lower chest will pop and my upper abs will be prominant....

Sadly enough, other than lower chest fat, I do actually have gyno growth under my nipples and its def noticeable. I'm hoping the 5a reduced hormones I'm taking now may be able to help in reducing the lumps size and that by reducing overall bf% to a given level that most all extra burnable fat around that region will disappear and not add to the "visable" size of the lump....

tamoxifen helps with gyno.... Primordial Performance has their androhard which converts to DHT, they claim it also reduces gyno, so much so, in fact, they are also having a CONTEST, a gyno contest, who can lose more gyno using androhard!

i think your taking an anti aromatiser to assist in prevent conversion of test to estrogen is fine for preventative measures but I wonder if you just shut down excess estrogen all together, what you might realize...

Dang.... Haven't updated for a couple weeks...

Dropped the ephedrine...

I was on the alpha t2 x5 protocol for a few days n started seeing impressive results almost immediately... Got the OEP on saturday and I am going to run it 2x 2 for both now.... Saw impressive appetite suppression yesterday and a strong but not overbearing stimulating effect, I'm very excited to see what the results are like in the next couple days of dosing as today, the 4th, will be a more lil more of a cheat day, but not all out, and tomorrow starts a super strict diet n daily routine to really smack the fat off fast n get in proper shape for the end of the contest.

Arms and delts are suuuper cut up n chest has lost much of the fat that previously resided yet replaced the bulk with hard mass again (still a tiny bit of gyno fat n hard lumps, yikes), and are starting to show through and I have a small amount of fat resting just above and below obliques.... I really hope the extra effort and supplementing will go a long way these coming weeks more for my own pleasure then the contest, that was just a nice motivator to get me started in the first place.

Ill keep everyone updated on how this stack works out, from what I've seen of alpha t2 alone I think it's gonna be killer...

Gotta say I'm quite impressed....

I'm carrying around a 70 ounce camelbak with me while working to make sure I stay well hydrated. I prob drink 2-3 16.9 or 20 oz water bottles before I'm even out of the office in the morning and usually drink 2 more bottles during lunch/workout n at least 2 more at night alongside a glass or 2 of milk....

I pee maybe 3, 4 times tops through a day.... The sweat is just pouring off my face n soaking my shirt all day.... Normally I dont mind it but we're having some monsoonal moisture come into the SoCal desert that is normally very dry... This humidity is just stifling n makes my sweat useless since it can't evaporate into the air...

Other then the buckets of sweat energy feels very strong at times but not outright crackish n I'm just watching the mirror change every night with my obliques standing out more n more n fat just melting away... The claims about this stack are def true, easily more effective imo then clen/t4 at this dose and feels loads better (clen makes me ache n feel like crap). I'm very glad I chose to switch to this stack from already effective ECA....

Here's a couple shots taken this morning with a timed shutter, I will get my official newspaper shots submitted tonight when my fiance can help me....

Def happy with the results so far. Down to 186lbs now, a drop of 6lbs on the scale itself but I've put on st least 10-15lbs of muscle at the same time so in all reality I cut quite a bit of fat. Only thing left now is to have the egg sized lump removed from under my nipples, def wasnt smart letting myself go like I did when I already had quarter sized lumps growing. These are now permanent unable to catabolize lumps (as far as I know) that I will be having surgically excised after the summer and I've dropped a few more lbs of fat.... Once that happens I will be 100% happy with my physique.

Just wanted to say thanks to IMForums for the inspiration to undertake this transformation and try to get back I'm shape. At this point I dont even care if I win or even place, my results have been prize enough. Can't wait till summer is over though and I can spend more time on the boards getting to better know everyone here n helping where I can.

looking good. great job on the weight loss

Looking good nice work

Great job, man.

Originally Posted by Poopypants

(snip) catabolize lumps (as far as I know) that I will be having surgically excised after the summer and I've dropped a few more lbs of fat.... Once that happens I will be 100% happy with my physique.

Just wanted to say thanks to IMForums for the inspiration to undertake this transformation and try to get back I'm shape. At this point I dont even care if I win or even place, my results have been prize enough.

Great attitude. Wishing you continued success.

And re the lumps, depending on where you're located and your available funds, there's a doctor that has been advertised as the premier surgeon for that kind of procedure. Might want to do a Google of Dr. Mordecai Blau.

Lookin big bro. Might be a bit of gyno though

Yeah, def gyno, but I'm used top it by now, just waiting to get physically ready (really low bf) for surgery and save some money.

Curt James,

Thats the only doc I think I'm willing to go to, track record is everything and he has tons of proof of outstanding results. Haver you seen the youtube vid of the excision on that one bb kids gyno? Super slick and done so quickly it's rediculois. I've heard of too many guys going to non specialists out haha and winding up looking just as bad or worse then before.

Only thing is I think the entire operation is around 7 grand and it's on the other side of the country from me in NY. Still worth waiting n saving.

ah gyno. I had a struggle with it in the past. Didn't mind the way it looked so much as the sensitivity. dr prescribed 10mg/day of tamoxifen and that shrunk the glands down halfway and completely eliminated the sensitivity. After 9 months I came off of it and the sensitivity came back in no time :/

did you send in your AFTER photos ? i don't think we ever recieved them

You know..... I didn't....

I bought the newspaper and everything but was too tired from working all day and never snapped any official shots... I wish I had (although I've yet to even look at the competitions photos across the board, no time) but at the same time it doesnt mater so much to me as the actual results I got...

If I can still submit late lmk, I will, if not it's understood and cool with me.

Originally Posted by Calves of Steel

ah gyno. I had a struggle with it in the past. Didn't mind the way it looked so much as the sensitivity. dr prescribed 10mg/day of tamoxifen and that shrunk the glands down halfway and completely eliminated the sensitivity. After 9 months I came off of it and the sensitivity came back in no time :/

I've tried multiple runs of tamox, toremifene, anastrozole, letro etc... All relieve the pain and stop growth but not much in the way of reducing size. Also noticed that when on cycle of dryer non aromatizing compounds I feel much better, the better ratio of androgens to estrogens makes for a better internal environment and doesnt hurt my chest...

In fact the only time along the way that I ever saw a temporary reduction was in the beginning with high dose atd and later with epistane which is dht derived...

I'm about to run some transdermal 3-alpha this next week hopefully it will cut away the remainder of fat and help catabolize some of the mass as transdermal dht has been used over seas for gyno treatment so it's worth a try.... thankfully I'm not prone to baldness...