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    Poop's recomp: IronMagLabs 2011 Transformation Challenge

    Hey guys n gals!

    Time to get paid to do what we love, right?


    Not a big time poster over here on IM forums, mainly an AM.com poster but recently got "suspended" and in my search for a new home I got am email notifying me of a pm here and this contest. Sounds like a win to me!

    As the title states, I'm going for a full out recomp. I need to drop about 10-15lbs of fat and earn back 10lbs of lbm, MINIMUM. Easily doable for someone like myself, in 3 months time, given my past "supplementation", workout and nutrition experience/knowledge and thank goodness muscle memory.

    Was already started on my journey towards this goal since me and my fiance are expecting a new lil addition to our family this coming sept. and daddy needs to make sure he's in shape and able to handle the extra demands of a newborn, cause once here I'll have very lil time to dedicate to myself and such a significant physical change.

    My plan has 3 phases to it, all already set before this convenient 12 week contest came along.


    First: General recomp.
    This phase is already under way. After several weeks of cut cals, I have switched back over to a more carb plentiful diet once again to boost the metabolism back into over drive while using a friendly glucose disposal agents/nutrient partitioner and natural anabolic in the works from my pals at PES under the testing name AnaBeta-01. Other then that it's still just the basics; Beta alanine, creatine, MAP (maximum adsorbed protein from primordial performance), Toco-8, and CLA.
    Second: Cut.
    Once my metabolism has been sufficiently boosted, muscle memory has somewhat taken effect and strength returned I'll once again cut cals in the form of carb control using products like slin sane to help carb refeeds and proper direction of pre and post workout nutrition. Most importantly, products like Erase will be used (for cortisol control and an AI to make sure the DAA doesnt increase estrogen as well as test) and Alpha T2 coupled with the typical EC stack for multi faceted receptor blasting, fat melting, energy boosting, non suppressive thyroid enhancer. Here is what else I plan to bring to the table to help achieve my goals in this phase.

    SARM S-4 -50mg (25mg 2xED)
    PES ERASE -(High affinity AI and cortisol control) 2-3caps daily
    EC+PES Alpha T2 -3x ed (12.5mg epedrine, 75-100mg caffeine)
    HGHup♂ -2caps in the am, 3 caps in the pm
    DAA -3g preworkout, or pre bed on off days
    And as mentioned
    Slin Sane -preworkout and on carb refeed days with largest meals
    Third: Lean bulk cycle
    The final phase will be a lean bulk, the only kind I do. Carbs will be reintroduced full time, protein increased to support increased turn over rates and nutrient partitioners used throughout. My last bottle+ of original AX Phera Plex will be utilized to throw on mass quick and either Prostanozol or AndroHard alongside in order to keep the gains nice and dry. A slight possibility of adding T3 or T4 will exist at this point depending on progress (don't expect to need either) and the possible use of my clen spiked Dermatherm Target to help spot reduction at stubborn sites if absolutely necessary.
    Now the photo in my avatar is old.... Nov 2008. I keep it as a constant reminder as to where I've been and where I want to be again.

    Sadly since then I had finalized a divorce, lost jobs, drank copious amounts of beer and was sedintary far too long. This got my waist size higher then it's ever been, exacerbated minimal gyno the size of a penny into full blown massive lumps that seem to have tails extending around the side of my pecs towards my armpits and are always painful....

    While I hope that this full body recomp and fatloss will possibly catabolize some of the mass, I feel I will truly know the entire severity of the situation after I strip away the layers of padding I've added across the past few years and while I expect an awesome showing in this contest I'm afraid I won't look the same until I drop a few G's to go under the knife....

    Any way, we will have to see. I'll be picking up a paper today and send in pictures this evening.

    I welcome all to join me along this journey, would be gadly to accept any advice and input but mostly good luck to all, for both the prizes and our own collective health.
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    Your name cracks me up! haha
    Good luck man! Welcome to IM

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    Lol thanks, always loved it and kept it just cause the response it gets, use poopypantsmgee for my xbox gamer tag too, there I get to hear people laughing, even funnier.

    I like your avi too, saw that last night while checking out the competition, def made me chuckle.
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    Forgot to add height weight etc.

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    Bf% unknown. I'll let the pictures do the talking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Poopypants View Post
    I'll be picking up a paper today and send in pictures this evening.
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    I'm sending them in now, 11:14 pm pacific.... Hopefully not too late

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    Were they received and acceptable? I hope so, def not the most flattering pics I've ever taken... Just goes to show how far I let myself go. Got my work cut out for sure but ready to made a showing!

    Btw who checks the challenge email?

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    Good to see you poopy. I always respected your input on AM. Good luck homie.


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    Thanks mayn!

    N good luck to you as well! Really we all win if our goals are reached, just nice to have something a lil extra to reach for!

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    Lmfao! What's up bro! Didn't know you mod'd anywhere. Was pissed when I came back off my hiatus n saw you weren't there any more.


    Just wait til you see my current pics bro, my body is trashed...... Time to get it back!

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    Saweeeeet!

    Wish I got pics done a week ago, already made significant progress since then.... titties are def smaller and arms are bigger (my bis grow like weeds)

    I'm actually going to go ahead and post up some of my last weeks journal entries from my beta log I'm running for PES.....
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    Here's the log so far found here:
    Poops test run: PES AnaBeta-01

    (dunno if external and non sponsor links are allowed, if so, sorry and please mod edit post)

    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants on 4/08/11 View Post
    PES AnaBeta-01


    The gentlemen (and adams ) at PES have been kind enough to allow me to test their new, non suppressive, glycogen shuttling, thermogenic burning, vascular showing, energy increasing, seemingly do everything anabolic compound(s).

    In all honesty this new supplement holds great promise according to all reviews up to this point. While of course this excites me and gives me some kind of guideline for what to expect, I plan on giving the most objective log possible alongside a fairly comprehensive/comparative review.

    With this log we've been directed to drop all other performance supplementation, with exception of the essentials. Here is a list of what I was taking, which will continue, minus the creatine and glycocarn aka gplc (will actually add creatine intermittently after a couple weeks to assess the likely synergy between the two but only after AnaBeta-01's solo effects have been identified).

    Beta Alanine
    Creatine (now removed)
    Glycocarn (now removed)
    MAP
    Toco-8


    As you can see supplementation as of late has been minimal so the additional effects of something new should be quite apparent....



    And so here are my initial observations from the first 24hrs, last aft to this afternoon-


    Yesterday upon receiving the mail first thing I did was open the bottle, smell the caps (familiar but not so much that any identification could even be made, mostly just similar to most herbal t boosters and other plant extracts I've taken), opened one cap to see a fairly consistent powder with a few pieces that seemed a lil darker and more clumped together (meaning either multiple ingredients and/or some of the extracts had been smushed together or slightly heated and clumped as I've seen happen to multiple diff extracts) and then counted them (152 making 38 days at rec dosage).

    Right after my inspection, I took my first dose of one cap. Yesterday was an off day and the day before had been a back day during which I had done many diff exercises namely multiple sets of dead lifts, so my back yesterday was completely sore (and still is today as well). Nothing monumental with the first dose. Did have some random wood a few hours later, not so common right now but not necessarily attributable to the AnaBeta-01.

    Second dose was later in the evening, I was eating later and have been trying not to do this too much since I like to have the body clear of most circulating glucose and insulin in order to allow for higher rates of lipolysis and gh release... So I decided to put the glucose disposal effects to the test and took 2 caps along with my meal, watched tv for about 2.5 hours and knocked out (I'm usually a deep sleeper, as I take a 12hr allergy medication prebed containing 120mg pseudoephedrine and doesnt phase me a bit). Craziest thing happened this morning upon waking. I got up to use the bathroom and right as I lay back down for a few more zzzz's I get a gut wrenching black hole feeling in my stomach, so so hungry, like I hadn't eaten for days. This is HIGHLY uncommon for me. I'm not a huge morning eater at all, can barely get down a shake or a few eggs n toast then eat for reals hours after.

    This definitely substantiated the testimonials of many other testers regarding increased levels of hunger. It did so again after my morning dose n breakfast burrito as I went from stuffed to hungry again much more quickly then usual as I've been on a significant caloric deficit as of late and my stomach has already become accustomed. Hunger pangs aren't frequent as well as capacity for food in general has been reduced since my stomach is not used to being stretched so much.

    Also this morning....

    My fiance gave me an awesome back rub which had significantly loosened it up from last nights sleep but immediately after my morning dose and meal I had an oh so unexpected yet familiar sensation...... Back pumps... WTF!?!

    THIS STUFF IS STRONG!!!


    As of now I just ate again alongside my second dose of the day and have yet to observe any other notable effects. Have yet to experience the increased thirst that most have mentioned, although I drink a lot already so I may have not yet reached a point where I'm exceeding my normal intake.

    Can't wait to see what the near future holds.
    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants on 4/08/11 View Post
    Forgot to mention.

    Starting weight, taken yesterday morning, fasted, post urination.

    190lbs.
    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants on 4/09/11 View Post
    Thanks for allowing me the pleasure of testing this for you guys!

    N thanks for the support Rosie good to always have some solid input!



    So although thirst isn't crazy yet I have noticed a slight dryness in the mouth and throat if water intake isn't almost constant (which it really almost already is with well over a gallon of water alone consumed right now. Not including the half gallon of milk and couple glasses of juice I normally drink...

    Also noticed some slight euphoria with this evenings dinner dose. I took the cap about 15.min before eating and within 10min started the euphoria.... Really was expecting a feeling of hypoglycemia, since I can go hypo easy as is when calls are lower (literally can't even do keto diets cause I feel like I'm constantly about to die, my body DEMANDS carbs) so having a good feeling instead was a welcome difference to what other glycogen shuttling compounds can do to me if food isn't consumed close enough to dosing.

    Took last dose an hour or so post dinner and right before my night time pro shake. Drinking some water and waiting for the sandman to arrive now. Nothing else to note.
    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants on 4/10/11 View Post
    So last nights workout was strong.... But I nearly felt like death afterwards, lol. Not to any fault of the AnaBeta-01, I had a large Chipotle burrito and a bag of corn chips (with tons of salsa) for my pre workout meal. Great idea on the burrito, bad idea on the salsa.

    Half way through the workout my stomach started cramping, a lil gas (luckily it was only in my back yard), and by the time I was done my stomach was just as pumped as my pecs, lol.

    Was stuck on the crapper in intense pain for almost an hour, unable to even get up and started having severe hypoglycemic symptoms. Whole body was shaky, sweating like crazy and started feeling numb in my extremities.... Coupled with intestinal distress this was NOT fun.

    So I won't be touching spicy food again on workout days to avoid such a situation from reoccurring.


    Other then the negative aspect of the situation though this shows how dang efficient this is at clearing the bloodstream of glycogen and can't wait till tomorrows shoulder workout to see the ability this will inevitably have in shuttling nutrients to the worked muscles immediately post workout.

    As for today, urination and thirst have gone up considerably over the previous days thus far. Hunger has been kept in check with many small meals but have yet to really run into the ravenous hunger I have heard so much about other then the first nights double dose and subsequent emptiness that followed the next morning.... I suspect this will increase as the test run continues, we will see.

    I plan on weighing in tomorrow morning to see where we are at. I could only assume weight will be up considering diet has ben adjusted from cut/low carb to suit the needs of this supplement and it's apparent ability to utilize carbs in a beneficial manner... But as of now there does not seem to be any apparent changes in the mirror, no bloating, no excess water retention n no extra full muscle bellies.... yet.

    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants on 4/13/11 View Post
    Could have sworn I updated this yesterday, using a phone to do everything can sure be frustrating at times.


    Any how...

    Had my shoulder and tri workout last. Energy levels were through the roof, especially given I haven't taken any stms for some time. I didn't even take my pseudoephedrine lately since I dont need to treat the symptoms as long as I nip it in the bud and treat the source. Left shoulder had been painful and dry up to the workout, weird enough it's been great ever since....

    Urination has increased significantly and my thirst/water intake as well. My muscles are starting to feel a lot harder and seem to be drying out too (while, as I said, my joints are actually feeling alright now???) but have yet to experience the perpetual pump I've heard about.

    Hunger is still present but not ravenous. I've yet to feel the constant need to eat... Prob best for my goals right now anyhow.

    I will be punishing my legs tonight... Need to get innovative since I don't have a squat rack...
    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants on 4/14/11 View Post
    So a quick note...

    This mornings weigh in. 196lbs. That's pretty hefty considering my diet hasn't been out of control, the mirror actually appears to show fat loss and I was completely dried out this morning thirsty as heck and just dropped all extra weight in the toilet....(was 197.2 before using restroom).

    Also took first dose a lil early, thinking I would get my meal in sooner, and experienced quite a few odd sensations. Instead of my typical sickly and dizzy hypo feeling I can get with other nutrient partitioners (and even without them for that matter) I felt more of a euphoric dizziness and an increased body temperature and sweating, until I got my meal down. The sweating has continued at a slightly more elevated then normal amount for todays activity level but the increase in body temp has faded.

    This iiiiis..... Day 7 now, so I'm very impressed with the effects thus far. Considering this is a natural product its impressive to see any effects whatsoever within a week, let alone such drastic changes as I've seen. If this first week is any indicator at all, for the rate of progression throughout, then this is going to be quite a ride and also one hell of a supplement to bring to market!

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    Last few updates...

    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants on 4/17/11 View Post
    Had a few more workouts since last update and noticed quite a few changes as well.

    Legs went well, but nothing special to note.

    Back and bi was great. Had great focus and strong interset recovery. Took bis to complete exhaustion, really tore them up.... Next day, no pain/doms. Day after, no pain/doms. WTF? That's some insane recovery!

    Up till this point now, hadn't had much in the way of major debilitating pumps....

    So this evening had chest, HUGE PUMPS! Strength was significantly increased over my last chest workout too. Also been very hot all day, chillin in nothin but gym shorts n a tank with the 30mph 60° winds blowin n still sweating. Worse now after workout even! Fiance is all wrapped up in a blanket and I'm sittin here practically naked next to an open window and ceiling fan going, lol.

    Starting to see tons of blue veins showing just under the skin, spreading from my bis into my shoulders and across my chest. Nothing really popping just yet (cept bis while lifting) but at this rate should def see some impressive changes by the end of this run.



    So week 2 so far has already shown significantly increased recovery (both interset and from muscle soreness), increased body temps, increased vascularity and larger pumps during workout.

    Water intake has remained high, but realized that fluid is really only retained when consumed around the same time as meals are, otherwise it seems to just go right through. My guess is this is more then just a "diuretic effect". It seems like it's more likely an intracellular hydration optimizer, retaining what water is needed to perform transfer of nutrients into cells and ideal electrolyte levels and discarding the rest through the waste system.... I'm thinking I need to invest in some gatorade mix... Too bad poseidon is no longer around, that stuff was great.

    Weigh in tomorrow morning.
    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants on 4/18/11 View Post
    Woke this morning with a large, dry, chest pump. Prob looked better this morning then I have in months.... This type of effect is something I have experienced before on only very strong compound cycles, ie superdrol, phera plex w/prostan, original epistane. Not saying this AnaBeta-01 is as strong as any of these compounds(yeeeeet), just relating the very unique effect that I've only seen previously while on cycle.

    Weighed in 197.4 post morning evacuation of all superficial weight, while looking leaner and def more muscle mass.


    Really, this stuff is NUTS. Wtf is it Natty? And when would it be up for sale?

    Do you already have a solid idea to what it's really doing? How about total safe/suggested duration of use?

    Multiple ingredients? New or just better versions of something old?

    I wants to knoooooooow! Lol


    Lastly all I have to say is don't change this beta one bit before production n I'm sure it goes without saying but don't let mass production take over n quality of raws reduced like uspl has been doing (jmo).... Sad story there....

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    I love being a beta tester for killer supps like this

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    To cardio or not to cardio, that is the question...

    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants on 4/20/11 View Post
    Aaaaalriiiiiiight!

    Had shoulders last night, once again much stronger then last weeks workout. Also sweating has become profuse during workouts, outside in the night air workin out and still dripping with sweat... Kinda like it honestly, lol.

    Body temp is now constantly elevated, especially after dosing and the effect is strong and imminent when in a more fasted state... Starting to really think a 15-30 min pre meal dose is where it's really at. Speaking of dosing, not sure if this is even legitimate or a placebo but I feel the euphoria and sweating/thermo effects are stronger and more quickly felt on the days I'm binging on gfj... I love it. Literally will drink anywhere between 16-32oz 100% grapefruit juice in a day (usually all consumed in a few hours, stuff is addicting, can never just have one glass, lol).

    Need to weigh in again to see where I'm at.... I'm sure I'm prob up in weight from the looks of the mirror, muscles are def looking fuller all the time now but not perpetual pump status that I can have on cycle at times.

    Was still only doing occasional fasted cardio in the am but was really planning on stepping up the frequency when I move out at the end of the month since I will need to get a membership again anyhow... Also starting work full time again this next week... I walk aaaallllllll day door to door selling pest control..... I plan on working out in the morning now before starting work (also going to cut off carb intake after lunch break each day with a majority of it consumed pre and post workout first thing in the am) and was thinking bout doing cardio in the evenings..... So I have a BIG question....

    Is cardio even necessary? I mean it's not non stop but I often jog between doors, the more doors I hit the more sales I can get.... Do I still really need cardio after a day of being on my feet moving about? Maybe just 15-20 min hiit instead of the typical 40? I'm just worried cause last summer I sold pest control I'd come home with swollen/bruised feet and typically barely felt recovered sometimes through an entire week, it's exhausting especially in the hot mojave desert....

    Don't let me tell a sob story though, if you guys really think I can benefit from more cardio, really I'll just suck it up, but over working and not allowing enough recovery really is a possible concern for me here..... Whats everyone think?

    I really can't wait though, this large increase in activity should def illicit an immediate drop in weight, just got to make sure to keep pro intake up in order to make sure none if it is muscle mass :/

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    Posted late last night...

    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants on 4/22/11 View Post
    Holy back pumps!

    High rep deads + AnaBeta01 = PAIN!


    Just tossed few grams of taurine into my post workout shake, something I have on hand for while on cycle... Didn't think be using any till my phera run in a couple months! This stuff continues to impress, even when it comes to things like this, lol.

    Id have to say though.... The only thing I havent experienced in great amounts is the ravenous hunger others have felt..... I wonder if it has to do with the fact I workout right now at night time then have post workout nutrition, stay awake a couple of hours for most the glucose and insulin to clear the blood stream for optimal sleep and natty gh release then crash out...

    I'll be working out in the am this next week since I'll be starting full time work, so maybe creating the demand for feeding muscles throughout the day will ignite hunger to monstrous levels... Maybe not?

    Wonder if this has a direct effect on cannibinoid receptors in the brain, intensifying feelings of increased appetite and given my past marijuana abuse I no longer have the "munchies" effect.... Maybe it's just too late, my back hurts and is throbbing and I'm thinking too much about it, lol.

    I'll give some more updates, observations and update fasted weigh in tomorrow morning... (4/23/11, and prob noon pacific, soooooo hardly morning I guess, lol)

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    Weighed in this morning fasted, peed and pooped, 197lbs with a much leaner looking mirror.

    I still be posting pic updates at each 4 week interval to show progress of each phase... I'm planning on making a splash in this contest, so be ready

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    Thanks for the support!

    Sucks kinda...

    Came down with the flu on mon.

    Dropped a solid 5-6 lbs, body took a beating since I just had a hard back workout followed by a hard chest workout followed by a full core workout compliments of a puke fest n followed by shit nutrition cause I couldn't eat anything for a couple days after without making my stomach hurt again....

    Good story is, I def look leaner n lost a good among of fat too, bad story, muscles are def flatter as well... Gotta pump 'em full again n I think ill be in much better shape.

    Just a minor setback.

    Weight now.... 193

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    looking forward to seeing how this new supplement is working out for ya

    sounds like it gives you the munchies

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    Haven't been able to update much recently due to my job being reinstated....

    I sell pest control door to door (and actually spring between doors to cover area faster n make more possible sales) and have started taking my ec stack and the SARM S4.....

    All this together has had quite a desirable effect on my waistline, constantly tightening up my belt... Gone from approx 37 inch waist to just below 34 now n still shrinking.... Soon to be back to my 32 inch tapered v with 6 pack n all!

    Biggest challenge with this job now isn't burning the fat but in a couple weeks once I switch over to my cycle n running a lean bulk.. The lean part will be easy the bulk part though n managing to find enough time to get in enough cals will be hell....

    I'm just hoping that this chest fat will start melting off... Pain in the ass but I know everyone has one spot on their body where they lose it last... Scared to see how much is actually fast n how much is metastasized gyno growth... Hopefully I don't wind up having a killer beach body n some massive growths still making some lil girl tits on top of my pecs...

    I'll be shouting pics again in a couple weeks showing my half way progress... Dunno if I'll post em yet though, will make a more impassive spring if I only show start and finish at first but def will break em out at the end to show the strip down then the bulk.

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    Glad to hear you have work. Good luck!
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    hadnt seen poop in a while, was starting to feel constipated here.

    glad you are posting again

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    From a week ago...

    Quote Originally Posted by poopypants on 5/18/11 View Post
    Alright!

    Was working out using the weights we had at the last house I was living at but since I moved into another place and started up my job I haven't had the time, or money yet, to get another membership.... Well thats changed.

    Last night I go into a niiice privately owned gym that I used to have a membership at cause I installed the original alarm on the place when it was being built. Talked to the son of the owner, who now runs the entire place, n since I was wearing my work clothes he made mention that he actually needed some pest control. So I made a bargain with him to discount his service if he could give me a discounted membership....worked out great, don't have to pay for the rest of this month even and made a sale which I recieve commission for too. Sweet!

    Now the biggest thing is.... I will start work at 9am, walking/running till 1230, break for lunch which is when I'll hit the gym, and then back hitting the pavement from 330-830/9(as the summer days get darker later)... So I am slightly worried about over working myself, finding enough time to eat enough cals, and wasting away any muscle along with the fat thats just coming right off...

    So since I'm basically down to my l last 2 days of AnaBeta-01 (sadly) I will be going on cycle at the end of the week to help in my endeavors....

    With that I wanted to post a few observations...

    1. Effects have definitely been stronger for me when dosing AnaBeta-01 15-30 min before eating depending on the time of day (only 15 min for first dose or I go hypo)

    2. GFJ or other products containing enzyme inhibitors found in grapefruits or bergamottin taken before or with AnaBeta-01 seems to enhance the effects and makes it def more apparent.

    3. Water increase alongside electrolyte increase (using bananas and gatorade) seems to reduce the amount of urination.... Again leading me to believe AnaBeta-01 is helping to maintain an ideal intracellular hydration level as opposed to outright being a diuretic.

    4. Taking AnaBeta-01 is certainly effective at helping to increase endurance and maintain muscle while losing fat on a caloric deficit. I've also been able to enjoy larger meals at the end of a day with a hefty portion of carbohydrates and have no spill over into fat but instead fed into muscle stores to be used the next day.


    Personally, I only experienced increased unbearable hunger when taking a double dose at once... But not every double dose had this effect, in fact maybe only happened twice. I did have insane increases in urination between meals (but not for an hour or so after main meals) before playing with increasing electrolyte intakes, this seemed to slow urination and the accompanying increase in thirst (a product like poseidon alongside AnaBeta-01 would be ideal)... Also sweating out excess water while working through the day of course also reduced frequent urination.

    Pumps after the first few doses were greatly increased during workouts. To the point of being debilitating during deads and impeding curls a lil bit... But the rest of the time wasn't to bad and feels cool being that pumped after.

    All in all I really love the stuff. Sad that my supply is up, would love to run it right through my cycle but hopefully, at the least, it will be released and I can utilize it during my pct to maintain gains.

    Thanks again to natty and dadams for choosing me to log this. Really enjoyed it and proud to say, PES has done it again with another killer yet safe supplement!

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    Quick update.... Got some major fat shedding going on right now. This eca stack alongside s4 is kicking ass. Ill be cut up in no time. Since getting my gym membership I've really been doing fat fast but actually seeing the numbers slowly going up on the scale, so muscle memory is def doing it's part and putting back on some quality mass at the same time.

    Really excited already about my progress and can't wait to show up with some stock transformation pics in the end!

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    just started the ECA stack myself... only thing is I burn up at night while sleeping, pillow is SOAKED AND I have to keep rolling over, sheets get hot!....

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