must be new...just tried looking them up and they have a website but, it says coming soon. *********hey big boy, u ordered from omega i got the email. you tried ripping them off so they quit dealing w/ u. go somewhere else dont plug up the thread w/ u fucking bullshit lies. i have been to syd, omega, xt. but didnt like the xt lab. yes they come in black boxes . but now they come in hard plastic see through boxes, junk.