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ne one else running into any issues wit the test prop??
been on about 1 1/2 weeks now (100mg/day) and all my injection sites are swollen up real bad. hurts to move anything and im running a fever.
am i just allergic to the oil that is used?
this is by no means meant to hate on MLG gear, this is the only source i use and will continue to use.
just looking for feedback from others on this gear thanks
I haven't ordered any test prop recently..
I did notice my recent order of test e was a bit darker than normal (meaning possibly different oil used, similar color as my Deca...) but haven't experienced any inj site pain.
Is the prop cloudy at all? If so could be over concentrated and just burning, but if so I assume you would have noticed.
I wouldn't think it would be contaminated as quality has always been spot on with M.
Depending on the injection site, I have gotten slight red or swollen pain post injection..but only when I pinned quads, i assumed it was just because I didn't use a long enough needle to get deep enough into the muscle tissue.
Anyway these are just my experiences..and a few possibilities..
hmmm, maybe others could chime in.
I am 4 pins in 100mg EOD and have had very little if any pip with mlg prop. By far the smoothest prop I have ever used.
Mlg prop reacts as expected with me. Slight pip.
i might just be allergic to the oil.
either way i am making the switch back to mlg Test E now. so shouldnt suffer much longer lol.
now what to do with the extra 15 bottles of prop i have laying around? lolol
You can send them my way and I'll make sure they're in running order.
:coffee:
love some mlg prop
yo how bad it gonna fuck with me if i just drop the prop now and keep pinning test e?
did my first test e shot yesterday
I had to do that. There's worse things in life tbh. If its that bad just fuckin do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nok
Sell that stuff to your boys at the gym. Home brew... Worth every penny...
We actually get more positive reviews on our prop than anything else. It's real/good quality/cheap/and little to no pip. Not sure why this is happening to you. We use grape seed or safflower oil...no eo. Like someone said off them to your gym buds and triple your $$
Mlg always been good for me
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Originally Posted by Nok
Youll be fine. I've done the same before(because I ran out of mlg prop lol), only experienced a little libido loss then it came back
Bro,grab some sustanon and overlap it with test e. Youll be loading up and youll get some prop in ya. Tons of test!!!!!! DO IT,DO IT,DO IT,DO IT,Quote:
Originally Posted by Intense
some people are not aware how strong of a compound propionate really is, it is one of the purest forms of testosterone and acts very fast in your blood streem, it has a half life of 4 days and your pinning 100mgs of it a day and what you are doing my friend is overdosing, its very obvious your sensitive to testosterone and are giving yourself to much, hence the fever, will you stop pinning for a couple days, why are you under the belief that you will lose something if you dont pin everyday ?? i am in NO-WAY knocking you my friend i am trying to help you.
you should read about every drug your gonna administer and i mean fully, that way you understand what is going on in your body when you pin these drugs, we really do care about you and want you to have many gains, and NO pains, you might have a misconception or was told wrong about stable blood levels, i know many many steroid users and the pros, or really experianced pin everyday, but not the same drug, let that shit break down in your body, and learn how to listen to your body man, it gives you many tell tale signs on how to take care of it brother, your gonna be ok,
you need to stop this everyday pinning regimen your doing its not necessary at this time, and is getting you sick, as for them lumps, your pinning in the same spots and your putting more oil in a spot that still has oil sitting it. !! my man SLOW DOWN will you please, your gonna hinder your gains if you continue to do this, you will do that with any testosterone if you flood your body with it, right now you should be still on your winter schedule right or changing from that bulk routine and drugs to a power bodybuilding and drug routine, then as we hit spring or summer depending on your run you change over to more volume and rep work w/ drops burn outs etc and to cutting drugs. you cycle your training and drugs so the intensity changes and your getting the proper rest with your stimulation, you gotta earn your muscle right now and pay your dues ok, dont try and do it in a day.
i know how excited you are, nobody was more anxious than me my friend, i had complete renal failure because i was also pinning everyday and lost to that idea, i was #1 on the transplant list, so i am telling you with lots of experience and first hand knowledge of overdoing it, please listen to me, im giving you advice from my heart and dont want you to experiance what i did, i almost went home in a box bro, and im a miracle to the medical field,
i have got my best gains on weekly shots and pinning 2x a week, dont be misled more is not better, but trust me when i say if your on 800mgs of test a week and you pin 1 or 2 times a week you are gonna grow my friend, and you can put 2 or 3 other drugs to that and youll be jacked, ya gotta crawl b4 ya walk or run, i know a novice or intermediate bb will not gro on a pros routine, do you agree ?? well what makes you think you will grow on his chemical dosage strategy ??
lets start over, and get it out of your head that your gonna lose anything switching or stopping right now, you think its the prope?? haha you pinned what 100 everyday and been doing it for 8 what 9 days, thats 900 mgs blasting through your body from what, having none?? come on now, you just need to slow down, because i am gonna tell you right now, if you keep chasing the muscle instead of building it, your gonna get yourself sick,infact thats what you did bro,
now dont take this anyother way than me seeing you in trouble and trying to help you my friend, im not lecturing you, or did i attack your integrity !! no insulting or anything, just a honest concern for your well being, we dont want our guys getting sick for any reason, and the gear is always top shelf for you, theres a big difference when you have a real chemist, instead of a chef, dont get me wrong theres good chefs, but they are not chemist, real deal you get from start to finash, your getting lab quality gear and the proof is right there, and obvious by the blood work guys have and the full effect you get from it, most guys been pinning for yrs and everyform they have tried, and their first reaction is always all the same wow !! so your gonna have to do it right ok brother, slow down, take 3 days off or whatever is needed to bring you down, then pin 1 time every 3 days, and always alternate your sites, i pin prope every 3 or 4 when im on cyp so i pin the long ester once a week 600 or 800 depending, and prope i would pin 2 x in the week maybe 200 a pop, and then i would have my other stack drugs on alternate days, you gotta come up with a safe dosing schedule, theres many, and do this right ok these guys told you right to so have some patience,
ok good luck, keep us posted, and dont hurt yourself, its sad but if you get sick it ruins it for everybody because the media uses it as a tool to manipulate situations, if i had died i would of been the poster child for how bad steroids are, but it it would of never been mentioned how irresponsible i really was and fell to my own demise and addictions AND NOT THE STEROIDS, like i said its not the prope, its the user, or there would be other post like yours saying hey i got a fever etc, your overdosing on a hormone your sensitive too, your lucky you are not allergic to it, you would of done yourself in, just use common sense, and ask away, all these guys will help you because they care man
bones
Prop kills me, doesn't matter what company it's from.
First cycle was ap prop. Loved that shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Z499
and i believe you, prope is a very good form of test, its in a very pure form and acts fast, yes theres faster ones but prope is really perfect, i like it very much my self and has its place in many cycles...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cgrant
bone-z
I just started using the test E and coincidentally started pinning in "virgin" territory...since my legs have been taking a beating I've switched back to rotating triceps, which I haven't done in years. And the past couple weeks my triceps have gotten red & swollen for a few days after the shot. Mind you, I'm still rotating to shoulders too and sometimes quads, but the only swelling is the triceps. Plus I'm still using another lab's Deca (I've just recently found MLG), so I've ruled out the gear as the culprit. It's the virgin muscle... Just food for thought. And yeah, prop can be pretty "caustic" if you vets know what I mean. I've had to walk with a limp from that stuff sometimes!
The triceps are tricky. If you don't hit the right spot it will leak out. What are you hitting your triceps with? Like a slin pin or what?Quote:
Originally Posted by AnabollicA
I use a 25g 1" needle. I limit it to 1cc each time I bang it; i don't want to do too much to a small muscle group. Call me crazy but thats how I roll!
No problems or leakage so far. I did this 2 1/2 years ago and got the swelling too back then, but it stopped happening once I hit it a few times. I kind of like the triceps for an injection spot, I never thought it was a troublesome spot. But then again, my exclusive favorite has always been the quads, despite the minefield of nerves and vessels...
I think that's a tad big for such a small muscle. Try a slin pin if you have one. I hit it with a 3/8 once, needless to say, I was not deep enough lol it ended up more like a sub q inject, red/sore for 3 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by AnabollicA
I've come to learn that a 1/2 28-31ga should be ok on bi's and tri's.
Some people do the triceps but thats really not my thing. I love tricep shots.. LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Cgrant
I'm a little confused. So you're saying its bad to pin daily regardless of dose or ist bad to pin 100mg of prop daily. That's a ton of prop. For example I pin 30mg of prop daily and 85 mg of tren. Would I be wise to double the doses and pin rod in terms of effectiveness or was that solely in terms of pinning a massive amount of prop daily?
BTW I'm not experiencing any reactions like the open in terms of fever or anything crazy like that
Same with me bro....I've tried everyone's and get the same reaction. Short esters just don't treat me rightQuote:
Originally Posted by Z499
Prop by Pharmaceuticals is usually 50mg per dose for many reasons. The dose commonly found for anabolic purposes is 100mg so imagine someone who has to do 600 to 1000mg of test a week. Either how, it crystalizes fast into the muscle and that can feel painful to some.Quote:
Originally Posted by besoge
OP sorry that the prop isn't working for you bro. I am trt and prefer MLG prop over cyp anyday. I pin bi's tri's lats traps ed and have zero pip. I do use slin pinsQuote:
Originally Posted by l0newolf
I pinned prop with a 27g, 1/2" pin in my quad the other day for the first time. I always use a 25g, 1" pin for delt, quad and glutes when I pin them. I've been using this gear for a week now but when I used that smaller pin, it made the area red and swollen. I know it's not the gear. I think I just didn't pin deep enough in the muscle. Anyways, just my experience and thought I would share. My first time using prop and the ED pins are getting annoying.
i have a random bottle prop from mlg that i never ordered (lol)
guess ill in it and see what happens
you really dont need to pin prope everyday bro, especially if you never used it b4, theres been a trend going around that everyone needs to pin it everyday, not necessarily, it has a half live of 4 days, alone you can be fine with everyotherday pins, and with other gear, i run it every third day when im stacking compounds with other test also, i tend to like running long and short esters together, its less pinning with still a constand break down in the blood,Quote:
Originally Posted by rippedgolfer
that pinning schedule i have seen in many pros routines bro, and they are pinning alot, and more often closer to peaking for competition, if your new to the game and wanna do things safe, go 100mgs or 150mgs of prope everyother day, if your on other stuff you can lower or go every third because of the other things your pinning on other days,
i just dont want guys getting jammed up and then all of a sudden it was the gear, know what i mean, we had a guy last week complaining of fever and sick, but he was pinning every day 100mgs, 9 days in he was ill and questioning the prope, how is he by the way ?? but theres no need to jump in the deep end, guys that are on them schedules been on this forum for years guys, yea and have quite a few cycles under the belt, you ask them how they got there, and theyll say one day at a time man, gotta crawl before ya walk, and we care about all you guys, maybe some vets can support me on that statement, alot of guys here have many yrs of experiance, and then some have still yet to pop a cap, we gotta look out for these new guys, were a tight knit family here and were all members of the pound.
united we stand,, divided we fall. also my early yrs i pinned glutes, holds alot of oil and it gives ya alot of room to learn and make mistakes, then graduate,
dont worry your training and the drug together is gonna have you fucking jacked in the summer man, take your time and when your ready, then pin up a storm, because by then you will know so much more about it all that youll be pinning it the right way, and your body will be ready.
you are talking to a guy who has had renal failure twice, i know how addictive it can be, and i wasnt jacked in the hosp, so give me that little respect of me being there, i have lived hell because i wanted it now, yea you can pin everyday safely, but learn what that means,
thank you for listening and showing me respect on this topic thank you.
bonedawg !!