Thread: is it possible to come back from the darkside?

Originally Posted by ontopthegame85

Just something that crosses my mind from time to time.I'm 29 years old been juicing on and off for 4 years.Not that I will probally ever do this but is it possible to build your natural testosteronelevels back to normal,train like a mad man and make decent natural gains.I know they will never be as good as on the sauce but somewhat decent.

NO once in the dark always in the Dark

The force is strong

Originally Posted by ontopthegame85

the force is strong

lmao

No one will ever know because 99% ppl here are geared

Originally Posted by ontopthegame85

The force is strong

Haha ain't that the truth


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Hard to resist after you have felt the effects.

The needle would be calling you back in no time

Originally Posted by ~RaZr~

The needle would be calling you back in no time

They start talking to me in pct

Like the song of the sirens. I can't help myself but entertain the thoughts of a bigger, badder cycle. I only held out for 5 weeks this time between cycles. I know that's bad and I know I am definately DARK.

I quit about a year ago after over 20 years. I've leaned out considerably, but I'm still in good shape and stronger than most. Stopped because I'm 45 with major back issues, so training heavy and on didn't make much sense anymore. My back pain is much better at the lighter weight. So yes, I think it is very possible to come back. I'll probably go in and get my test levels soon to see if TRT is needed, but at this point I feel good, with no health issues.

Originally Posted by MDR

I quit about a year ago after over 20 years. I've leaned out considerably, but I'm still in good shape and stronger than most. Stopped because I'm 45 with major back issues, so training heavy and on didn't make much sense anymore. My back pain is much better at the lighter weight. So yes, I think it is very possible to come back. I'll probably go in and get my test levels soon to see if TRT is needed, but at this point I feel good, with no health issues.

Were you on TRT as well? Or just standard cycling?

Regaining natural test production is possible but depends on your cycle history and PCT history as well as your personal response to fertility drugs. Age obviously also plays a factor.

The second part of your question regarding gains.....
If you have used AAS to take you beyond your natural potential the chance your gonna gain with normal/natural hormonal conditions is pretty much nil.

Stay in good shape.....be super lean...sure.
Continue to gain....dependent on how close to or past your natural potential you are when you stop AAS use.

It depends. If you are big and do juice and decide you could be happy just being super lean then yes.

If you think you will stay a monster without then that won't happen.

I think I will stick with the sauce

Originally Posted by acemon

Were you on TRT as well? Or just standard cycling?

Cycling with PCT, for the most part. I did do some extended cycles, and some pretty extreme doses at times.

Originally Posted by ontopthegame85

They start talking to me in pct

That's why I'm pinning during pct

"sauce for ever, you shall, hmmm? " - says yoda

Originally Posted by ontopthegame85

Just something that crosses my mind from time to time.I'm 29 years old been juicing on and off for 4 years.Not that I will probally ever do this but is it possible to build your natural testosteronelevels back to normal,train like a mad man and make decent natural gains.I know they will never be as good as on the sauce but somewhat decent.

stop now it is never too late..you will go down for a while and then things will go back to normal.
was not smart to start in the first place. if you stay clean for 2 years from now you will realize that you would have been better off without juicing in the first place.
juicing for 4years + clean for 2 years after = 6 years clean
so no need for juicing.

Interesting, decent natural gains after years of gear. I would guess it depends on your genetics. If gear allowed you to surpass your natural genetic potential then I doubt you could make much gains after quiting. Probably the best case would be keeping what you have. Be really interesting if you did, especially since you're only 29 and have been using for just 4yrs.

wouldn't juicing up to your natural genetic potential then stopping and maintaining be the healthiest and most realistic route?

Originally Posted by Bonesaw

wouldn't juicing up to your natural genetic potential then stopping and maintaining be the healthiest and most realistic route?

if you get to your natural genetic potential by juicing ..you will gradually loose everything once you stop juicing. you just can't cheat ..whatever you gain artificially ..you will loose as simple as that ..and any idiot who tells you the opposite is just a plain liar

Originally Posted by bjg

if you get to your natural genetic potential by juicing ..you will gradually loose everything once you stop juicing. you just can't cheat ..whatever you gain artificially ..you will loose as simple as that ..and any idiot who tells you the opposite is just a plain liar

Please explain to us the science behind this theory. Or are you just talking out of your ass?(like usual)

Isn't worth it Ben. He is posting up broscience crap....

bigbenj it would be my pleasure to meet you someday and show you how easy for me to kick your little ass... be assured that i have kicked much bigger asses before and you won't even make me break a sweat.
on a second thought i feel sorry for you ..you are so pathetic and cannot carry any decent conversation ...so my advice go see a shrink
As for my science behind AAS ...everybody knows that as you use AAS and gain any muscle from it ..you will loose everything as your body regains its normal natural equilibrium if you COMPLETELY stop AAS for a while...the fact is nobody stops completely since as they start loosing gains they restart AAS again..otherwise why do many cycles???? just one cycle , few pounds and that's it right???? and many just won't admit that harsh truth.
Besides if you abuse AAS you even go down below natural level because your body and your system will not be able to function normally and produce test as before. Just look around you and look at [pros who COMPLETELY stopped AAS and you be the judge ..that is if you have the brains to do so.
And the stupidest thing one can do is to try to reach his natural potential using AAS because he can do it without anyways and he won't loose it.
And i can also assure you that even the so claimed irreversible gains using hgh will also be lost with time as you stop hgh and that is a fact that i have seen with my own eyes.

^doesn't workout. Weighs 150lbs. Can't reach the top shelf of the cupboard.

Originally Posted by bigbenj

^doesn't workout. Weighs 150lbs. Can't reach the top shelf of the cupboard.

Still no pics. That's for sure.

Of course it's possible. You just have to WANT it. The biggest difference between gearing and not is patience. Patience to wait for your gains to happen. It won't be quick and fast. It will be slow and steady. If you have the patience to wait it out you will make it.

Originally Posted by Bonesaw

wouldn't juicing up to your natural genetic potential then stopping and maintaining be the healthiest and most realistic route?

whats another opinion on this?