thank you for the warm welcome. I appreciate it very much and look forward to the knowledge I will earn and gain from you all. I am very new to the extreme side of the supplement gain. I have used my fair share of pro-hor and test boosters. The problem is not me getting bigger but the bloatness I have from them and the weight gain no matter what my diet is. When I get off I seem to loose all that I have done even when I do a PCT followed by all the right steps. I do want to try the others but am not sure what, how much, where to go, what do once I quick taking, just need help and guidance. I am thankful for all your help!!!