Thread: I'm "that" Mom...

Congrats on setting your goals so clearly (and very attainably!) and welcome to IMF!

It takes guts to post pics up... it should prove to help become a great motivation tool, and I hope you achieve everything you are looking to accomplish.

what lies behind us and what lies ahead of us, pale, in comparrisson, to what lies within us!
everyone starts somewhere, welcome aboard!

Originally Posted by sassy69

Congrats on setting your goals so clearly (and very attainably!) and welcome to IMF!

Thanks!!! I am a lover of lists, plans, charts, basically all things organized.

Originally Posted by Pittsburgh63

It takes guts to post pics up... it should prove to help become a great motivation tool, and I hope you achieve everything you are looking to accomplish.

Thanks!!! I need motivation right now...0430 comes much to early these days.

Originally Posted by ovr40

what lies behind us and what lies ahead of us, pale, in comparrisson, to what lies within us!
everyone starts somewhere, welcome aboard!

Thanks!!!

Hi there, and welcome. I'm a former fatty myself - you've got a little more to drop than I did, but you're armed with better information from the start, you'll get your body back sooner than you think.

Glad you found stumptuous - and us.

Have a peek at homework 1 in my sig. You're already lifting so you can leave that part alone, but there are some basic guidelines for diet you may find helpful.

Originally Posted by Built

Have a peek at homework 1 in my sig. You're already lifting so you can leave that part alone, but there are some basic guidelines for diet you may find helpful.

Thanks!!!

Diet has always been my issue...I've never been able to fully look at food as fuel. It's always been my vice.

Hi!! ... and Yay! another chick

I'm hearin' your pain. I'm in the same situation except a few years farther along. .... um, except for the deadlifting 315 part. Holy cow. I've gotten some of the best info from Built, and it's the first thing that worked in YEARS. Good luck!!

Great motivation to be found in your own words!
I wish you the best, you'll be able to surpass your goals while adhering to your drive!

Originally Posted by Kathybird

Hi!! ... and Yay! another chick

I'm hearin' your pain. I'm in the same situation except a few years farther along. .... um, except for the deadlifting 315 part. Holy cow. I've gotten some of the best info from Built, and it's the first thing that worked in YEARS. Good luck!!

I so miss that feeling. It's my legs...I've got thighs for days.

Originally Posted by anxious1

Great motivation to be found in your own words!
I wish you the best, you'll be able to surpass your goals while adhering to your drive!

Thanks!!!

wookiemonster - what is your greatest challenge with food? Can you describe how you're trying to eat now?

Welcome to the best place for excellent knowledge, and
awesome support on the net!
Just stick with it and you will be happy!!!

Originally Posted by Built

wookiemonster - what is your greatest challenge with food? Can you describe how you're trying to eat now?

I try to focus on chicken, turkey, veggies, fruits and increasing my daily water intake.

My issues come in with quantity. Even when eating healthy I get caught up on how good my food taste and eat to much.

That combined with coke, bread and chocolate, hence my 6 month goal of cutting those things completely.

What calories will you try to run on this? How many grams of protein, carb and fat do you think you should be eating daily? Can you describe the meals you eat, and the time you eat these meals over the course of the day? When are you hungriest - what time of day MUST you eat, and when do you find yourself able to manage without eating? How often do you feel you should eat daily?

Originally Posted by Built

What calories will you try to run on this? How many grams of protein, carb and fat do you think you should be eating daily? Can you describe the meals you eat, and the time you eat these meals over the course of the day? When are you hungriest - what time of day MUST you eat, and when do you find yourself able to manage without eating? How often do you feel you should eat daily?

As I've just started I'm working on at/around 1700 calories a day.

I have no idea.

Breakfast: 2 turkey sausage patties, 3 scrambled eggs, with either milk, oj or water.

Snack: A packet of SunButter.

Lunch: Salad consisting of spinach, dark leaf lettuce, hard boiled egg, grilled chicken, cous-cous (sp?), carrots and cheese, more water...sometimes a coke.

Snack: A packet of SunButter or some fruit.

Dinner: Varies...everything from fried chicken and mashed potatoes (G-d was good to me...I was born in the South!!!) to another salad.

I eat at roughly 7:15 (I have hypothyroidism so I have to have my meds on a 2 hour empty stomach), 10ish, 12:30-1:30, 3:30ish and 6:00-7:30.

Hunger varies from day to day, as does periods of fasting.

This lack of real knowledge of my own eating habits is why I'm documenting so heavily what, how much and when I eat...but that's only 1 day old...so there aren't any real trends to be seen yet

I'm hypothyroid, too. What meds do you take, what dose, and at what time(s)?

1700 might be a bit too low for you right now. If you fight too much hunger, try 2000. Ditch all juices btw - they'll just make you hungry and they have the same sugar profile as coca cola.

What's sunbutter?

Originally Posted by Built

I'm hypothyroid, too. What meds do you take, what dose, and at what time(s)?

1700 might be a bit too low for you right now. If you fight too much hunger, try 2000. Ditch all juices btw - they'll just make you hungry and they have the same sugar profile as coca cola.

What's sunbutter?

I take 100mg synthroid once daily in the morning on an empty stomach.

Ugh...I LOVE orange juice....I'm gonna go pout over this one.

SunButter is a product the company I work for produces. Think peanut butter but made from Sunflower seeds. It's oh so tasty. You can check out it's nutritional info on sunbutter.com (<----That doesn't break any rules does it?).

Welcome to IM, and good luck getting back in shape!!!

Welcome to the board. Good luck with your progress.

wookie, your synthroid dose is low. I take 100mcg synthroid also, but I also take 90mg of desiccated thyroid and 15 mcg cytomel. Synthroid is ideally dosed several times through the day. If you take it all at once, your free T4 remains elevated for about 9 hours, then falls. This means if you try to take more than your dose all at once in the AM like you do, your heart goes tachy untll mid-afternoon. I take 50mcg first thing in the AM, 25mcg at about 1 PM and 25mcg at bedtime. You might want to try that.

Is your sunbutter made from roasted sunflower seeds? If so, I'd avoid it - polyunsaturated fats become damaged when they are heated.

Try ditching all snacks - you'll feel more fed if you eat a large serving of protein - AND calories - at your first meal. If the sunbutter's not made from damaged polys, have it with your breakfast, then don't eat again until lunch. Try to eat only a few meals a day - three or at most four - with no snacks. For me, it's so much more comfortable, I'll never diet any other way. If you can blow off breakfast entirely and start eating later in the day, that works too. I eat my first meal at around 11 AM, then again at about 2 or 3 PM and then dinner, which is often quite late, like at around 9 or 10. I'll sometimes have another meal at around 6 or 7, but not always. Usually if my "lunch" was eaten closer to 2.

Orange juice is liquid candy. The fructose is going to mess with your appetite and undo the good work you're doing in leaning heavily on protein with your breakfast. If you don't mind being uncomfortably hungry while you diet, by all means drink your oj. Some folks are happier being hungry than giving up favourite foods and it all comes down to what you can live with.

Me, personally, I'd rather feel fed.

What was your TSH and your free T4 on your most recent bloodwork? And how long have you been on synthroid? Also, are you on the pill?

I don't know. I'm ashamed to admit I that what I know about hypothyroidism, my meds and my levels could easily be written on a chewing gum wrapper.

Do you have some reading material you could direct me to?

I also don't know about the SunButter...but I've sent out some emails to find out.

I'm going to try the 3 meals heavy on the protein with no snacks...because obvisouly what I'm doing now isn't working. I would skip breakfast...but I work out at 0430 and I get hungry.

I see what you are saying about the OJ...I just hate to give it up...but again obvisouly what I'm doing isn't working.

I'm not on any kind of BC...the pill makes me feel like a bloated pig and the depo shot is what I believe started my thyroid issues (but that's a long story).

Originally Posted by Wookiemonster

I don't know. I'm ashamed to admit I that what I know about hypothyroidism, my meds and my levels could easily be written on a chewing gum wrapper.

No shame there - you're not an endocrinologist and there's no reason why I should know this stuff, either - except I felt lousy and fat and wanted to fix it. Very few doctors - or even endos - know proper management of thyroid replacement.

Originally Posted by Wookiemonster

Do you have some reading material you could direct me to?

Start with Thyroid Mistreatment, Hypothyroidism Scandals, and Thyroid Treatment Problems | Stop The Thyroid Madness

Originally Posted by Wookiemonster

I also don't know about the SunButter...but I've sent out some emails to find out.

I read the site, and sunbutter is made from roasted seeds. I'd avoid it personally.

Originally Posted by Wookiemonster

I'm going to try the 3 meals heavy on the protein with no snacks...because obvisouly what I'm doing now isn't working. I would skip breakfast...but I work out at 0430 and I get hungry.

Ah, you're up early! Understood - you'll want to eat in the AM. What time do you go to bed? You may be one who prefers to eat more food earlier in the day. I'm a late-riser, but like the nighttime so I eat most of my calories later in the day. Either works, it's all about comfort.

Originally Posted by Wookiemonster

I see what you are saying about the OJ...I just hate to give it up...but again obvisouly what I'm doing isn't working.

Keep it for the occasional treat, or perhaps have it closer to bedtime. Better yet, eat an orange closer to bedtime. I've never seen anyone sit down and eat six oranges at once, but lots of people drink that in a single sitting.

Originally Posted by Wookiemonster

I'm not on any kind of BC...the pill makes me feel like a bloated pig and the depo shot is what I believe started my thyroid issues (but that's a long story).

Hormonal contraceptives knocked out my thyroid as well, you're not alone. Fucking depo - I never hear anyone wax poetic about that stuff.

For the OJ, try crystal light. It's not perfect as a substitute but I had the same addiction to OJ, and I KNOW it makes my psoirasis flare up. Drank it anyway.

Built kinda started me out with a somewhat Atkins/Palm Beach-ish break in - tons of protein, cut out all sugar. Had a damn headache for two days. The first two days I used colonix - a kind of fiber/laxative powder - it helped me with the hunger, gave my intestines/insides ... "something to do" for lack of a better description. Took my mind off digging out the cookies n cream Ben n Jerry's.

Originally Posted by Built

No shame there - you're not an endocrinologist and there's no reason why I should know this stuff, either - except I felt lousy and fat and wanted to fix it. Very few doctors - or even endos - know proper management of thyroid replacement.

Start with Thyroid Mistreatment, Hypothyroidism Scandals, and Thyroid Treatment Problems | Stop The Thyroid Madness

True...the 1st endo I went to 2 months after my 1st (and only) depo shot wanted to nuke my thyroid THAT DAY. He didn't even offer alternative treatments.

Ah, you're up early! Understood - you'll want to eat in the AM. What time do you go to bed?

I usually hit the hay around 10ish.

Keep it for the occasional treat, or perhaps have it closer to bedtime. Better yet, eat an orange closer to bedtime.

This I could live with.

Hormonal contraceptives knocked out my thyroid as well, you're not alone. Fucking depo - I never hear anyone wax poetic about that stuff.

What pissed me off more than anything was I had NO issues before the deop shot. I take the shot (becuse it's ok for breastfeeding mama's) and suddenly I gain 30lbs, my hair (and I have A LOT of hair) is falling out in clumps and my toes and fingers feel like ice blocks. But according to my OB (I have a new one now) and that Endo I mentioned earlier swore up and down that there was NO WAY the deop shot had anything to do with that.

Originally Posted by Built

I've never seen anyone sit down and eat six oranges at once, but lots of people drink that in a single sitting.

My seven-year-old can. She LOVES fruit. I buy grapes, strawberries, blackberries and oranges in bulk. She demolishes a crate of those tiny oranges (what are they called again?) in two days.

What pissed me off more than anything was I had NO issues before the deop shot. I take the shot (becuse it's ok for breastfeeding mama's) and suddenly I gain 30lbs, my hair (and I have A LOT of hair) is falling out in clumps and my toes and fingers feel like ice blocks. But according to my OB (I have a new one now) and that Endo I mentioned earlier swore up and down that there was NO WAY the deop shot had anything to do with that.

Fuckers.

... have I mentioned lately I'm pushing the DH for a snipping?

Originally Posted by Kathybird

My seven-year-old can. She LOVES fruit. I buy grapes, strawberries, blackberries and oranges in bulk. She demolishes a crate of those tiny oranges (what are they called again?) in two days.

My 3 year old is the same way with grapes and bananas. There was a time when she ate 3-4 bananas a day.

Originally Posted by Built

Fuckers.

You have no idea how badly I wanted to punch both of them. Espically my OB...she was speaking to me as if I was 2 and didn't know my asshole from my elbow.