Please tell me what you think

BabsieGirl · 09-12-2003, 01:50 PM

Hello Everyone,

A little help from the experienced ones is what I'm looking for. Here is a link http://www.npcindiana.com/figure.htm This link is a link from my very first competition this year. When I started training for comp. I weighed 175lb 25% b/f two months prior. Time of Comp. I was 145lb minus some (scales were off) 14% b/f.

I had a very strick diet plan and stuck by it. I'm now planning for my second comp and am struggling in losing fat + water weight. My diet is the same (which may need some tweeking) as I'm finding it most dif. to lose the b/f this time around. I'm 6 weeks out from my show and I'm a WEEEE bit nervous that I won't make it. My current weight is: 155lb and 17%. I'm doing cardio twice a day and my calories are under 1400. Do you think it would be too much if I were to do cardio 3 time a day?

About the link. You may need to copy and paste it into your URL address. Once you do that, photos of me are in the Tall Class. Below the placings are photo's. When you open each photo, I'm the fourth gal on the right, counting left to right. Or, you can look at it as, I'm the second to last girl on the right. Blonde hair and it's pinned up. Again, this was my very first competition ever! I placed third. The head judge's only suggestions/comments were that I work on my hamstrings a bit. Other than that he said I had a well trained athletic look to me which would get me far.

Feel free to Pm me or post here with your comments. Give me your best shot.

Anyone know any good diets? Maybe I'm holding on to b/f harder this time because my current diet is the same as last. Don't know

Let me know if you all need further information.

Tip: Try using the sauna while lifting. Also, alot of people are using Prep H to tighten the skin. Use it while tanning. It also makes you sweat more.

Keep in touch.
Babsie

J'Bo · 09-12-2003, 02:03 PM

at 1400 cal a day and cardio twice a day....your body is in starvation mode and is going to hold on to every once of fat...up the calories and train less...sounds silly but true.

**Prince** · 09-12-2003, 02:26 PM

I disagree, how do you know that 1400 cals per day is "starvation mode" for her? (it may be, I just think that is presumptious without gaining more info)

I would be curious to see a detailed breakdown of your diet and go from there.

BabsieGirl · 09-12-2003, 02:41 PM

Diet Breakdown:

Krystie's Pre-Contest Diet, use at own risk.

Meal #1.
Protein: 4oz. Turkey Breast 3 Egg Whites
Fat: 1 Yoke
Carbohydrates: 1/2 Grapefruit
Supplements: Ms. Power Pack, 4 Ultra 40's, 4Mass Amino Acids, lipo 6
Meal #2.
Protein: 1 Scoop Muscle Provider
Fat: 1 TBS Heavy Whipping Cream
Carbohydrates: 4 Frozen Strawberries
Supplements: 4 Ultra 40's, 4 Mass Amino Acids
Meal #3:
Protein: 6oz. Chicken Breast
Vegetable: 2 Cups lettuce2 TBS Flax Oil
Supplements: 4 Ultra 40's, 4 Mass Amino Acids
Meal #4:
Protein: 1 Scoop Muscle Provider
Fat: 1 TBS Heavy Heaping Cream
Carbohydrates: 4 Frozen Strawberries
Supplements: 4 Ultra 40's, 4 Mass Amino Acids
Meal #5:
Protein: 6oz. Lean Meat
Vegetable: 1 Cup Vegetable broc
Fat: n/a
Supplements: 4 Ultra 40's, 4 Mass Amino Acids
Meal #6:
1 Cup Oatmeal
6 Oz. Sweet Potato
4 oz. Banana
1 Cup Vegetable
1 TBS Butter
Note: Meal Number 6 should replace one the meals mentioned above on Mondays and Thursdays
Vegetables to choose from:
Broccoli Salad Peppers
Spinach Cucumbers

BabsieGirl · 09-12-2003, 02:45 PM

Sorry, forgot to mention, I also take BCAA's. Lipo 6 is taken 3 times a day.

Training:

Monday:
Chest/tri's/bi's/shoulders Hit all to failure
Wednesday:
Back Hitting all muscles going to failure
Saturday:
Leg/calves/hams All muscles Hitting to failure

Every day is ab and cardio. Preparing for comp. Cardio twice a day. Thinking about adding a couple days in hitting it three times.

Let me know what you think?

J'Bo · 09-13-2003, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Prince
I disagree, how do you know that 1400 cals per day is "starvation mode" for her? (it may be, I just think that is presumptious without gaining more info)

I would be curious to see a detailed breakdown of your diet and go from there.

cause i have talked to her over pm about her stats and diet etc.

J'Bo · 09-13-2003, 11:37 AM

oh and i found my butt glue its called : It Stays! Body Adhesive

it says it washes off with water...but it doesnt...baby wipes work wonders

**dg806** · 09-14-2003, 06:16 PM

Need a variety of EFA's!

**Jodi** · 09-14-2003, 07:02 PM

I see your following a Beverly Nutrition diet. Good diet but you probably need a change. Your body acclimates easy to the same diet day in and day out unless your cycling calories/carbs etc. I think cardio twice a day is way over doing it. You would probably be fine with cardio 3-4 times a week until your last few weeks.

You can adjust your current diet or you can try a new one all together. Its up to you. What's your workouts like?

**Prince** · 09-14-2003, 07:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BabsieGirl
Sorry, forgot to mention, I also take BCAA's. Lipo 6 is taken 3 times a day.

Training:

Monday:
Chest/tri's/bi's/shoulders Hit all to failure
Wednesday:
Back Hitting all muscles going to failure
Saturday:
Leg/calves/hams All muscles Hitting to failure

Every day is ab and cardio. Preparing for comp. Cardio twice a day. Thinking about adding a couple days in hitting it three times.

Let me know what you think?

The diet looked pretty good, except all of those amino acids, kind of a waste IMO. You'd be better off replacing them with some Glutamine.

Not sure I would recommend going to failure every work-out, especially pre-contest. Do you have at least one rest day where there is no weights or cardio? If not, I think you should. What type of cardio every day, and how long?

**Jodi** · 09-14-2003, 07:14 PM

Ooops missed that post. Sorry didn't see your w/o post. I agree with the rest day especially if you are still 6 weeks out. Also, you shouldn't do abs everyday. They are a muscle just like any other and need rest. Twice a week is all you need if you train them right.

I think the diet is good too but if its not working then it maybe time for a change or at least a tweak.

BabsieGirl · 09-15-2003, 09:42 AM

Can anyone suggest a diet I do? If so, can you put it in detail?

The diet I'm currently on is Beverly. Good Job!

I also take creatine and beta. The beta also has glute in it. I've started taking ZMA to help me sleep and cut the mid-night cravings.

I only take half day off a week from cardio and one full day off for Weight training. The reason I do so much weight training is to keep my muscles full. Probably 15 min after the work out I go flat and stay flat until the next day I return to weight train. It's only when I train my muslces react and fill. Is there anything that will help keep them full?

Cardio in the morning consists of 45 min of intervals walking, job and sprint. Evening LSD for 50 to 60 min, less if I add jump rope.

DG806 -- What are EFA's Essential Fatty Acids?

Right now I'm guessing to be about 16% b/f and I'm EXTREMELY nervous because my comp is Oct 18th, 25th and Nov 1st. I don't think I'm going to make it if my body doesn't start reacting to my diet and cardio. I need some coaching and possibly a change in diet.

Anyone have good ideas. Work outs, diets, cardio, maybe aerobics? I'm REALLY stressing. Also, very athletic so I can take what is going to be dished and do it.

Mind power, Will Power, dedication, Desire to win and achieve! I eat sleep and breath the gym and have a strong passion to succeed in Figure. This is my dream I long to make reality.

You're all wonderful. Thank you for taking time out to respond. I wish a lot more people were as open as you all. It's great when people come together.

Keep in touch.

Babsie.

BabsieGirl · 09-15-2003, 10:20 AM

also, what do you all think about Estrogen blocker? I heard a lot of figure and fitness girls are using it to help rid the fat.

J'Bo · 09-15-2003, 10:25 AM

Why would you want to keep your muscles full right now...the object is to lean and flatten out and then refill on carb days or pre-comp days. Take a look at Jodi's pre-contest diet it has done wonders for her. Twin Peaks is the one that has been helping her and so you might want to ask him to len you a hand.

BabsieGirl · 09-15-2003, 11:09 AM

How do I get a hold of TP?

Thanks for your reply. I think the reason I want to keep my fullness is for mind sake. I like to see what i've worked hard for while I'm working out and at times, when I'm not. To me, seeing is believing and when I see my muscles working for me, it makes me work that much harder and push through the burn. Example: If you're over weight or under weight (what ever your goal) and you don't see any changes, what's going to motivate you? Virsus, if you see changes in your body, fat and muscle, your drive increases each time to achieve. Your desire is that much greater and more likely to achieve. This is only my opinion. When I see something new on me (muscle wise) I get a high that pushes me forward.

**Prince** · 09-15-2003, 11:13 AM

anymore questions on diet, nutrition, etc, let's please ask them in the appropriate forums.

thanks

J'Bo · 09-15-2003, 11:22 AM

I would private message TP if i were you.

BabsieGirl · 09-15-2003, 12:24 PM

Thank B

Sorry Prince. I will do so.

butterfly · 09-17-2003, 10:19 AM

Welcome to IM!!!

BabsieGirl · 09-17-2003, 10:22 AM

Thanks Ann. Do you compete?

butterfly · 09-17-2003, 10:55 AM

Who me??? No I don't think that would ever happen... my 15 yr old son left me with too many stretch marks... so no matter how flat my tummy gets it still isn't purty

BabsieGirl · 09-17-2003, 10:59 AM

Yeah you

I know what you mean about stretch marks. Have you thought about getting a tummy tuck?

butterfly · 09-17-2003, 11:06 AM

Yes, but then I think about the recovery

Guess I watch too many of those medical shows on TLC

BabsieGirl · 09-17-2003, 12:22 PM

I too have stretch marks but they're not that bad according to my plastic surgeon. I'm still kicking the idea around about having it done. which would only be a mini tuck which is half the cost. I know I want augmentation because I lose everything when I diet down . The recovery time is 3 weeks off work. Depending on how fast you recover, will depend on how soon you'll be able to return to the gym. The scar appears worse before it gets better just after surgery. They say within a year your scar will fade but you'll still be able to notice it. Were the scar is though, no one will see it but you and who ever you chose to show it to. It's right at bikini line. My scar will be different because of my style posing suits, if I chose to go through with it. I doubt it, but we'll see. My cost to have Augmentation plus mini tuck is $4500.00 Since I'm good friends with the surgeon.

Have you looked into getting some of those creams that say they fade the appearance of stretch marks?

butterfly · 09-17-2003, 12:32 PM

That's not a bad price! Let me know if you do go through with it, I'd love to hear the personal experience.

Those creams would never work for mine... I was only 18 when I had my son and so skinny... my skin actually ripped apart... the skin in the strecth marks is much thinner then regular skin. My mom and her sisters have the same kind.

BabsieGirl · 09-17-2003, 12:51 PM

I think I know what you're talking about. There is another girl at the gym with similar stretch marks as described by you and she's really thinking about getting it done.

I'll let you know either way about the recovery. My doctor friend told me that lip suction hurts worse than getting the tummy tuck. he said the after pain is much greater. Then again, he's only going on here say.

Isn't a shame what women have to go through? I mean, it's not but then it is.

Anyway, I'm sure you look great. All moms do. We've been through a lot and it never seems to end. Men get to keep there bodies flawless. Well, at least some of them.

It was nice chatting with ya. Are you doing the competition?

09-13-2003, 11:37 AM	#7
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	oh and i found my butt glue its called : It Stays! Body Adhesive it says it washes off with water...but it doesnt...baby wipes work wonders
	....and thats my $.02

09-14-2003, 06:16 PM	#8
dg806 Guardian of The Homeland Super Moderator Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Charlotte NC Posts: 17,155	Need a variety of EFA's!
	www.sbmuscle.com

09-14-2003, 07:02 PM	#9
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	I see your following a Beverly Nutrition diet. Good diet but you probably need a change. Your body acclimates easy to the same diet day in and day out unless your cycling calories/carbs etc. I think cardio twice a day is way over doing it. You would probably be fine with cardio 3-4 times a week until your last few weeks. You can adjust your current diet or you can try a new one all together. Its up to you. What's your workouts like?
	Essence EFA

09-14-2003, 07:14 PM	#11
Jodi Super Moderator Super Moderator Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 22,265 Photos: 1	Ooops missed that post. Sorry didn't see your w/o post. I agree with the rest day especially if you are still 6 weeks out. Also, you shouldn't do abs everyday. They are a muscle just like any other and need rest. Twice a week is all you need if you train them right. I think the diet is good too but if its not working then it maybe time for a change or at least a tweak.
	Essence EFA

09-15-2003, 09:42 AM	#12
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Can anyone suggest a diet I do? If so, can you put it in detail? The diet I'm currently on is Beverly. Good Job! I also take creatine and beta. The beta also has glute in it. I've started taking ZMA to help me sleep and cut the mid-night cravings. I only take half day off a week from cardio and one full day off for Weight training. The reason I do so much weight training is to keep my muscles full. Probably 15 min after the work out I go flat and stay flat until the next day I return to weight train. It's only when I train my muslces react and fill. Is there anything that will help keep them full? Cardio in the morning consists of 45 min of intervals walking, job and sprint. Evening LSD for 50 to 60 min, less if I add jump rope. DG806 -- What are EFA's Essential Fatty Acids? Right now I'm guessing to be about 16% b/f and I'm EXTREMELY nervous because my comp is Oct 18th, 25th and Nov 1st. I don't think I'm going to make it if my body doesn't start reacting to my diet and cardio. I need some coaching and possibly a change in diet. Anyone have good ideas. Work outs, diets, cardio, maybe aerobics? I'm REALLY stressing. Also, very athletic so I can take what is going to be dished and do it. Mind power, Will Power, dedication, Desire to win and achieve! I eat sleep and breath the gym and have a strong passion to succeed in Figure. This is my dream I long to make reality. You're all wonderful. Thank you for taking time out to respond. I wish a lot more people were as open as you all. It's great when people come together. Keep in touch. Babsie.
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

09-12-2003, 01:50 PM	#1
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Please tell me what you think Hello Everyone, A little help from the experienced ones is what I'm looking for. Here is a link http://www.npcindiana.com/figure.htm This link is a link from my very first competition this year. When I started training for comp. I weighed 175lb 25% b/f two months prior. Time of Comp. I was 145lb minus some (scales were off) 14% b/f. I had a very strick diet plan and stuck by it. I'm now planning for my second comp and am struggling in losing fat + water weight. My diet is the same (which may need some tweeking) as I'm finding it most dif. to lose the b/f this time around. I'm 6 weeks out from my show and I'm a WEEEE bit nervous that I won't make it. My current weight is: 155lb and 17%. I'm doing cardio twice a day and my calories are under 1400. Do you think it would be too much if I were to do cardio 3 time a day? About the link. You may need to copy and paste it into your URL address. Once you do that, photos of me are in the Tall Class. Below the placings are photo's. When you open each photo, I'm the fourth gal on the right, counting left to right. Or, you can look at it as, I'm the second to last girl on the right. Blonde hair and it's pinned up. Again, this was my very first competition ever! I placed third. The head judge's only suggestions/comments were that I work on my hamstrings a bit. Other than that he said I had a well trained athletic look to me which would get me far. Feel free to Pm me or post here with your comments. Give me your best shot. Anyone know any good diets? Maybe I'm holding on to b/f harder this time because my current diet is the same as last. Don't know Let me know if you all need further information. Tip: Try using the sauna while lifting. Also, alot of people are using Prep H to tighten the skin. Use it while tanning. It also makes you sweat more. Keep in touch. Babsie

09-12-2003, 02:03 PM	#2
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	at 1400 cal a day and cardio twice a day....your body is in starvation mode and is going to hold on to every once of fat...up the calories and train less...sounds silly but true.
	....and thats my $.02

09-12-2003, 02:26 PM	#3
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,520 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	I disagree, how do you know that 1400 cals per day is "starvation mode" for her? (it may be, I just think that is presumptious without gaining more info) I would be curious to see a detailed breakdown of your diet and go from there.
	SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips!

09-12-2003, 02:41 PM	#4
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Diet Breakdown: Krystie's Pre-Contest Diet, use at own risk. Meal #1. Protein: 4oz. Turkey Breast 3 Egg Whites Fat: 1 Yoke Carbohydrates: 1/2 Grapefruit Supplements: Ms. Power Pack, 4 Ultra 40's, 4Mass Amino Acids, lipo 6 Meal #2. Protein: 1 Scoop Muscle Provider Fat: 1 TBS Heavy Whipping Cream Carbohydrates: 4 Frozen Strawberries Supplements: 4 Ultra 40's, 4 Mass Amino Acids Meal #3: Protein: 6oz. Chicken Breast Vegetable: 2 Cups lettuce2 TBS Flax Oil Supplements: 4 Ultra 40's, 4 Mass Amino Acids Meal #4: Protein: 1 Scoop Muscle Provider Fat: 1 TBS Heavy Heaping Cream Carbohydrates: 4 Frozen Strawberries Supplements: 4 Ultra 40's, 4 Mass Amino Acids Meal #5: Protein: 6oz. Lean Meat Vegetable: 1 Cup Vegetable broc Fat: n/a Supplements: 4 Ultra 40's, 4 Mass Amino Acids Meal #6: 1 Cup Oatmeal 6 Oz. Sweet Potato 4 oz. Banana 1 Cup Vegetable 1 TBS Butter Note: Meal Number 6 should replace one the meals mentioned above on Mondays and Thursdays Vegetables to choose from: Broccoli Salad Peppers Spinach Cucumbers
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

09-12-2003, 02:45 PM	#5
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Sorry, forgot to mention, I also take BCAA's. Lipo 6 is taken 3 times a day. Training: Monday: Chest/tri's/bi's/shoulders Hit all to failure Wednesday: Back Hitting all muscles going to failure Saturday: Leg/calves/hams All muscles Hitting to failure Every day is ab and cardio. Preparing for comp. Cardio twice a day. Thinking about adding a couple days in hitting it three times. Let me know what you think?
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

09-15-2003, 10:20 AM	#13
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	also, what do you all think about Estrogen blocker? I heard a lot of figure and fitness girls are using it to help rid the fat.
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

09-15-2003, 10:25 AM	#14
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	Why would you want to keep your muscles full right now...the object is to lean and flatten out and then refill on carb days or pre-comp days. Take a look at Jodi's pre-contest diet it has done wonders for her. Twin Peaks is the one that has been helping her and so you might want to ask him to len you a hand.
	....and thats my $.02

09-15-2003, 11:09 AM	#15
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	How do I get a hold of TP? Thanks for your reply. I think the reason I want to keep my fullness is for mind sake. I like to see what i've worked hard for while I'm working out and at times, when I'm not. To me, seeing is believing and when I see my muscles working for me, it makes me work that much harder and push through the burn. Example: If you're over weight or under weight (what ever your goal) and you don't see any changes, what's going to motivate you? Virsus, if you see changes in your body, fat and muscle, your drive increases each time to achieve. Your desire is that much greater and more likely to achieve. This is only my opinion. When I see something new on me (muscle wise) I get a high that pushes me forward.
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

09-15-2003, 11:13 AM	#16
Prince the one & only Administrator Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Colorado Posts: 33,520 Blog Entries: 25 Photos: 313	anymore questions on diet, nutrition, etc, let's please ask them in the appropriate forums. thanks
	SBMuscle.com - Discount Supplement Superstore AlltheWhey.com - Bulk Protein Powders CEM Products - Research Chemicals & Supplements MusclePharm - Complete Nutritional Arsenal BigBackGrips - If you lift weights you've got to try these grips!

09-15-2003, 11:22 AM	#17
J'Bo Cuddle Slut Join Date: May 2002 Location: Back in Canada Posts: 9,753 Photos: 6	I would private message TP if i were you.
	....and thats my $.02

09-17-2003, 10:19 AM	#19
butterfly Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11,526 Photos: 11	Welcome to IM!!!
	~Ann We must teach our children to dream with their eyes open. -Harry Edwards

09-15-2003, 12:24 PM	#18
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Thank B Sorry Prince. I will do so.
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

09-17-2003, 10:22 AM	#20
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Thanks Ann. Do you compete?
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

09-17-2003, 10:55 AM	#21
butterfly Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11,526 Photos: 11	Who me??? No I don't think that would ever happen... my 15 yr old son left me with too many stretch marks... so no matter how flat my tummy gets it still isn't purty
	~Ann We must teach our children to dream with their eyes open. -Harry Edwards

09-17-2003, 10:59 AM	#22
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	Yeah you I know what you mean about stretch marks. Have you thought about getting a tummy tuck?
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

09-17-2003, 11:06 AM	#23
butterfly Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11,526 Photos: 11	Yes, but then I think about the recovery Guess I watch too many of those medical shows on TLC
	~Ann We must teach our children to dream with their eyes open. -Harry Edwards

09-17-2003, 12:22 PM	#24
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	I too have stretch marks but they're not that bad according to my plastic surgeon. I'm still kicking the idea around about having it done. which would only be a mini tuck which is half the cost. I know I want augmentation because I lose everything when I diet down . The recovery time is 3 weeks off work. Depending on how fast you recover, will depend on how soon you'll be able to return to the gym. The scar appears worse before it gets better just after surgery. They say within a year your scar will fade but you'll still be able to notice it. Were the scar is though, no one will see it but you and who ever you chose to show it to. It's right at bikini line. My scar will be different because of my style posing suits, if I chose to go through with it. I doubt it, but we'll see. My cost to have Augmentation plus mini tuck is $4500.00 Since I'm good friends with the surgeon. Have you looked into getting some of those creams that say they fade the appearance of stretch marks?
	Don't hate the player, hate the game!http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/...the%20wave.GIF Before you talk about what you want - appreciate what you have. http://home.earthlink.net/~gwcaton/s...ctures/tmf.jpg A good marriage would be between a blind wife and a deaf husband. -Honore de Balzac Desire+Consistency='s RESULTS

09-17-2003, 12:32 PM	#25
butterfly Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 11,526 Photos: 11	That's not a bad price! Let me know if you do go through with it, I'd love to hear the personal experience. Those creams would never work for mine... I was only 18 when I had my son and so skinny... my skin actually ripped apart... the skin in the strecth marks is much thinner then regular skin. My mom and her sisters have the same kind.
	~Ann We must teach our children to dream with their eyes open. -Harry Edwards

09-17-2003, 12:51 PM	#26
BabsieGirl Fighting Endometriosis Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 7,495	I think I know what you're talking about. There is another girl at the gym with similar stretch marks as described by you and she's really thinking about getting it done. I'll let you know either way about the recovery. My doctor friend told me that lip suction hurts worse than getting the tummy tuck. he said the after pain is much greater. Then again, he's only going on here say. Isn't a shame what women have to go through? I mean, it's not but then it is. Anyway, I'm sure you look great. All moms do. We've been through a lot and it never seems to end. Men get to keep there bodies flawless. Well, at least some of them. It was nice chatting with ya. Are you doing the competition?
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