Hoopies P/RR/S AND AAEFX LOG

**Built** · 07-13-2009, 09:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopro

The "stiffies" are not purported to result from nitric oxide production (like Viagra/yohimbe) but from transient rises in test levels.

I may be wrong, but isn't it the case that testosterone mediates erection through the production of NO?

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOOPIE

man im away at a softball tourny for my daughter for a few days and i miss all the talk. anyway what i notice from taking the trib in the a.m is a definate RISE(lol) in my labido. An yes it seems the a.m has been more prominent lately for me and the wifey...

LOL - there's our boy, getting in on the AM action!

What time of day do you train, Hoop?

HOOPIE · 07-14-2009, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

I may be wrong, but isn't it the case that testosterone mediates erection through the production of NO?

LOL - there's our boy, getting in on the AM action!

What time of day do you train, Hoop?

When i wake up in the afternoon. Usually around 2:30. I work steady night turn...

**Built** · 07-14-2009, 12:46 AM

So you wake up, take the trib, get laid, go back to sleep, then get up in the afternoon to train?

<seethes with jealousy>

HOOPIE · 07-14-2009, 03:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

So you wake up, take the trib, get laid, go back to sleep, then get up in the afternoon to train?

<seethes with jealousy>

close..go home get laid

go to sleep get up take trib then train.

HOOPIE · 07-14-2009, 02:31 PM

Tuesday 7-14-09 chest

bench 255x5+1 255x4+2 (3/0/x)

incline bench 180x3+3R/P 180x3+3R/P (6/1/1)

incline db fly 45x8 (2/4/1)

machine bench 75x40 75x40

x-overs 22x40 22x40

Holly smokes my chest was freaking pumped.

2-HBM in a.m.
2-tribulus in a.m.
LBA Pro- 3-4 times a day
Cell Rush- pre/post w/o
Kre-Generator-post w/o
NF Pro- throughout the day and post w/o

**Built** · 07-14-2009, 03:16 PM

Since the trib is for the stiffies, why take it AFTER you get laid?

HOOPIE · 07-15-2009, 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

Since the trib is for the stiffies, why take it AFTER you get laid?

Ever since i started taking the trib i've noticed a difference in myself. I cant explain it but i do like how i feel while taking it thats why i keep taking it. Some like to call it the alfa male feeling. to me thats the dumbest saying ive ever heard. All i know is i feel a lot different when taking it and i like how i feel. So i keep taking it everyday when i wake up. Is it from a rise in my test levels who knows. I definately know my labido has improved.

I know its not the greatest explaination but it the best way i can explain it as to why i take it every day...

**Built** · 07-15-2009, 10:00 PM

No worries. I know it does something - I've taken it myself. Never noticed the libido, but hubby did when he took it.

Tank316 · 07-16-2009, 05:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

Since the trib is for the stiffies, why take it AFTER you get laid?

gopro · 07-16-2009, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOOPIE

Ever since i started taking the trib i've noticed a difference in myself. I cant explain it but i do like how i feel while taking it thats why i keep taking it. Some like to call it the alfa male feeling. to me thats the dumbest saying ive ever heard. All i know is i feel a lot different when taking it and i like how i feel. So i keep taking it everyday when i wake up. Is it from a rise in my test levels who knows. I definately know my labido has improved.

I know its not the greatest explaination but it the best way i can explain it as to why i take it every day...

That is because it is likely an effective test booster for you. Quality trib products, such as AAEFX's, will cause a transient rise in test and for many it is actually "feelable." Trib has been on the market for many, many years and continues to sell because it does work pretty well for many (although not all).

HOOPIE · 07-16-2009, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

Since the trib is for the stiffies, why take it AFTER you get laid?

You know the more i read this i finally came up with a good answer. TO KEEP MY STIFFIES GOING AND GOING AND GOING AND GOING..LOL

slackadjuster · 07-16-2009, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOOPIE

You know the more i read this i finally came up with a good answer. TO KEEP MY STIFFIES GOING AND GOING AND GOING AND GOING..LOL

Okay ....Maybe just a little (no homo) too much info there hoops!

HOOPIE · 07-16-2009, 09:03 PM

Thursday 7-16-09 upper back

t-bar 170x4+2 170x4+2 (3/0/x tempo)

cg lat pulldowns 220x3+3 R/P 220x3+3R/P (6/1/1 tempo)

db row 70x8 70x8 (4/4/1 tempo)

wg lat pulldowns 100x40 105x40

My lats where cocked after this workout. Lower back getting better so hopefully soon i'll be able to start hitting it.

HOOPIE · 07-16-2009, 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slackadjuster

Okay ....Maybe just a little (no homo) too much info there hoops!

HOOPIE · 07-27-2009, 10:03 AM

Man the last few weeks i have been under the weather and unable to workout. Between my back then something with my guts i just didnt feel good. Ended up changing my diet and started feeling better within 24 hours. Needlesss to say it looks like my bulk diets/meals in general have to be all whole grain carbs. Any type of processed carbs makes me really sick with horrible cramping in my stomach/intestinal region. Changed up my diet in the beginning of last week and started feeling better the next day. By the end of the week i was back to almost 100% and today i think im there. Think i needed to expell the rest of those bad carbs out of my body..

**Built** · 07-27-2009, 10:10 AM

Ooooh, damn. What do you figure it was that did it, Hoopie? Too much gluten? Sugar?

HOOPIE · 07-27-2009, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

Ooooh, damn. What do you figure it was that did it, Hoopie? Too much gluten? Sugar?

Im thinking it was the gluten as i had found out that my grandmother has a gluten alergy. I wish i could explain how my stomach and gutts felt. It looks like all my carbs HAVE to be in the forms of whole grains. I DO NOT want to feel like that again. I was actually getting really worried that something seriously major was wrong with my gutts...

**Built** · 07-27-2009, 10:29 AM

If it's gluten - and I don't handle the stuff well, either - you won't feel wonderful on whole grains either.

As an experiment, try sticking to non-grain sources for your starchy carbs. Rice - white or brown - causes almost no one any digestive problems, and unless you have trouble with deadly nightshades, potatoes (white or sweet) should be comfortable as well.

A few other non-gluten sources:

Sorghum flour
quinoa
buckwheat
corn (flour, meal, starch)

If it isn't gluten, you'll be fine on whole grains. If it is gluten, grain foods - whole or otherwise - will cause you more and more grief over time.

Oats are usually mentioned in the literature as being gluten-free, but I have just as much trouble with oats as I do with wheat so approach this one cautiously. If in doubt, avoid it for now. There are plenty of other delicious gluten-free starches to choose from. Please do not hesitate to ask for grain-free substitutes for any of the foods you are currently eating if you need suggestions - many of the members of one of the other boards I mod have gluten problems; this is not an uncommon problem and I may have some work-arounds to offer you, should you require them.

HOOPIE · 07-27-2009, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Built

If it's gluten - and I don't handle the stuff well, either - you won't feel wonderful on whole grains either.

As an experiment, try sticking to non-grain sources for your starchy carbs. Rice - white or brown - causes almost no one any digestive problems, and unless you have trouble with deadly nightshades, potatoes (white or sweet) should be comfortable as well.

A few other non-gluten sources:

Sorghum flour
quinoa
buckwheat
corn (flour, meal, starch)

If it isn't gluten, you'll be fine on whole grains. If it is gluten, grain foods - whole or otherwise - will cause you more and more grief over time.

Oats are usually mentioned in the literature as being gluten-free, but I have just as much trouble with oats as I do with wheat so approach this one cautiously. If in doubt, avoid it for now. There are plenty of other delicious gluten-free starches to choose from. Please do not hesitate to ask for grain-free substitutes for any of the foods you are currently eating if you need suggestions - many of the members of one of the other boards I mod have gluten problems; this is not an uncommon problem and I may have some work-arounds to offer you, should you require them.

Thats good to know as im still learning about this gluten thing. You have me thinking though cause i know when i eat whole grain pastas i get crampy feeling but i always figured that as a carb bloating feeling. Now that you wrote that it may be more. Sweet taters dont bother me at all.

Got a question for ya built. When you would eat gluten foods do your gutts get real crampy and gassy. I get horrible bloating and gassy and my gutts just hurt its so bad.. Now with the whole grains its not as bad but is stil there slightly.

**Built** · 07-27-2009, 02:56 PM

Yes, I do. And - weirdly enough - I still feel hungry.

Not all starches do this to me. Just the gluten containing ones. White gluten containing ones are perhaps the worst, but it happens with all of them.

**Built** · 07-27-2009, 03:10 PM

I know oatmeal is the stuff of bodybuilding dietary legend, but if you suspect you are having trouble with gluten, stop ALL gluten containing foods for a while - including the iffy ones like rye, oats and spelt.

I have a sister who is acutely ill from this finally getting to her, she's been hospitalized with Celiac and is heavily medicated for it - and in terrible pain daily. She pukes every morning, and has trouble with her digestive tract all day. She's wasted considerably.

I believe I have this too, and I'm hoping that in avoiding gluten most of the time, my body may still allow me the occasional indiscretion of the odd piece of birthday cake, or to not have to worry about checking to see if my soy sauce contains wheat.

Celiac is not an allergy - it is an autoimmune disease, and it is cumulative. The longer you ignore it, the worse it gets, until such point as you pretty much have to eat out of a kitchen-lab for the rest of your life.

I am NOT diagnosing you - just offering you fair warning that this is NOT fun, it does NOT go away, it has NOTHING to do with "clean" vs. "dirty" carbs and it's not an allergy. It's a food intolerance, and my strong feeling is that it has become prevalent because our western diet has become so OVERdependend on wheat. Wheat, like all grain foods, did not evolve to be the perfect food for humans. It evolved to survive digestion and get crapped out a few miles up the field by the animal that ate it, as a means of propagation. In order to do this, it contains antinutrients, substances that interfere with ordinary digestion to ensure its viability. All plant foods have some level of antinutrition. We are admonished to consume a varied diet so as to ensure adequate nutrition, but it is just as important that we do so as minimize exposure to the individual antinutrients these foods contain. My strong feeling is that by flying under the radar, we may be able to avoid setting off the immune response that is virtually impossible to reset once activated.

Eat what agrees with you. Potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice - try those. Try white rice; you may be surprised by the lack of reaction you have to this refined glucose polymer. (White rice is one of my favourite post workout carb sources)

HOOPIE · 07-27-2009, 03:21 PM

Thanks a ton for the info Built!

**Built** · 07-27-2009, 03:35 PM

You're welcome. Believe me when I say I hope it's not relevant to your circumstance.

HOOPIE · 07-27-2009, 10:43 PM

FD/FS Training protocol

Monday 7-27-09 Bi's

BB Curl 125x3+1 125x3+1 (tempo 3/0/x)

Hammer Preacher DB 35x3+3 35x3+3 (6/1/1)

DB Preacher 35x8 (2/4/1) Last time had to help with ohter arm on last couple got all reps this time

machine curls 60x32

rev. curl 55x25
ss with
hammers 30x25

After being away from the gym for a week and a half do to illness, im very happy with this workout. there was an increase in some areas and finished reps in other parts.. Soo all in all a great workout..

gopro · 07-28-2009, 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOOPIE

FD/FS Training protocol

Monday 7-27-09 Bi's

BB Curl 125x3+1 125x3+1 (tempo 3/0/x)

Hammer Preacher DB 35x3+3 35x3+3 (6/1/1)

DB Preacher 35x8 (2/4/1) Last time had to help with ohter arm on last couple got all reps this time

machine curls 60x32

rev. curl 55x25
ss with
hammers 30x25

After being away from the gym for a week and a half do to illness, im very happy with this workout. there was an increase in some areas and finished reps in other parts.. Soo all in all a great workout..

FDFS! Damn you are brave!!!

HOOPIE · 07-29-2009, 12:12 AM

Tuesdy 7-28-09 Cardio

treadmill

25 minutes 10% incline at 3.6mph

HOOPIE · 07-30-2009, 08:46 PM

Thursday 7-30-09 BACK

T-Bar (3/0/x) 180x4+2forced reps 180x4+2forced

cg lat pulls (6/1/1) 230x3+3rest pause 230x3+3R/P

DB rows (2/4/1) 80x7,7*This was a ball buster*

WG lat pulls 110x40 110x35*Freaking lats started screaming at rep'ish 20 and i was able to squeez out some more to 35. However the 36th rep i couldnt even budge to lower it*

GREAT workout and strength. I absolutely love FD/FS training and the tempos.

Tank316 · 07-31-2009, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOOPIE

Thursday 7-30-09 BACK

T-Bar (3/0/x) 180x4+2forced reps 180x4+2forced

cg lat pulls (6/1/1) 230x3+3rest pause 230x3+3R/P

DB rows (2/4/1) 80x7,7*This was a ball buster*

WG lat pulls 110x40 110x35*Freaking lats started screaming at rep'ish 20 and i was able to squeez out some more to 35. However the 36th rep i couldnt even budge to lower it*

GREAT workout and strength. I absolutely love FD/FS training and the tempos.

HOOPIE · 07-31-2009, 03:10 PM

Friday 7-31-09 Tri's

CG bench(3/0/x) 215x4+1 forced 215x3+1

skulls (6/1/1) 115x6+1 115x6+1 * doing skulls with a 6 second negative is freaking killer*

DB overhead Ext(2/4/1) 25x7,7

V-bar pushdowns 50x40

RG pulldowns 50x30

Tri's are toast after this workout. The 6 second negatives with skulls was a new twist of pain but i liked it.

Tank316 · 07-31-2009, 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HOOPIE

Friday 7-31-09 Tri's

CG bench(3/0/x) 215x4+1 forced 215x3+1

skulls (6/1/1) 115x6+1 115x6+1 * doing skulls with a 6 second negative is freaking killer*

DB overhead Ext(2/4/1) 25x7,7

V-bar pushdowns 50x40

RG pulldowns 50x30

Tri's are toast after this workout. The 6 second negatives with skulls was a new twist of pain but i liked it.

I fried my tris today to Steve....

07-14-2009, 12:46 AM	#63
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,121	So you wake up, take the trib, get laid, go back to sleep, then get up in the afternoon to train? <seethes with jealousy> Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

07-14-2009, 02:31 PM	#65
HOOPIE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 182	Tuesday 7-14-09 chest bench 255x5+1 255x4+2 (3/0/x) incline bench 180x3+3R/P 180x3+3R/P (6/1/1) incline db fly 45x8 (2/4/1) machine bench 75x40 75x40 x-overs 22x40 22x40 Holly smokes my chest was freaking pumped. 2-HBM in a.m. 2-tribulus in a.m. LBA Pro- 3-4 times a day Cell Rush- pre/post w/o Kre-Generator-post w/o NF Pro- throughout the day and post w/o ADVANCED POWER/REP RANGE/SHOCK WARRIOR www.prrstraining.com

07-14-2009, 03:16 PM	#66
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,121	Since the trib is for the stiffies, why take it AFTER you get laid? Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

07-15-2009, 10:00 PM	#68
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,121	No worries. I know it does something - I've taken it myself. Never noticed the libido, but hubby did when he took it. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

07-16-2009, 09:03 PM	#73
HOOPIE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 182	Thursday 7-16-09 upper back t-bar 170x4+2 170x4+2 (3/0/x tempo) cg lat pulldowns 220x3+3 R/P 220x3+3R/P (6/1/1 tempo) db row 70x8 70x8 (4/4/1 tempo) wg lat pulldowns 100x40 105x40 My lats where cocked after this workout. Lower back getting better so hopefully soon i'll be able to start hitting it. ADVANCED POWER/REP RANGE/SHOCK WARRIOR www.prrstraining.com

07-27-2009, 10:03 AM	#75
HOOPIE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 182	Man the last few weeks i have been under the weather and unable to workout. Between my back then something with my guts i just didnt feel good. Ended up changing my diet and started feeling better within 24 hours. Needlesss to say it looks like my bulk diets/meals in general have to be all whole grain carbs. Any type of processed carbs makes me really sick with horrible cramping in my stomach/intestinal region. Changed up my diet in the beginning of last week and started feeling better the next day. By the end of the week i was back to almost 100% and today i think im there. Think i needed to expell the rest of those bad carbs out of my body.. ADVANCED POWER/REP RANGE/SHOCK WARRIOR www.prrstraining.com

07-27-2009, 10:10 AM	#76
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,121	Ooooh, damn. What do you figure it was that did it, Hoopie? Too much gluten? Sugar? Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

07-27-2009, 10:29 AM	#78
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,121	If it's gluten - and I don't handle the stuff well, either - you won't feel wonderful on whole grains either. As an experiment, try sticking to non-grain sources for your starchy carbs. Rice - white or brown - causes almost no one any digestive problems, and unless you have trouble with deadly nightshades, potatoes (white or sweet) should be comfortable as well. A few other non-gluten sources: Sorghum flour quinoa buckwheat corn (flour, meal, starch) If it isn't gluten, you'll be fine on whole grains. If it is gluten, grain foods - whole or otherwise - will cause you more and more grief over time. Oats are usually mentioned in the literature as being gluten-free, but I have just as much trouble with oats as I do with wheat so approach this one cautiously. If in doubt, avoid it for now. There are plenty of other delicious gluten-free starches to choose from. Please do not hesitate to ask for grain-free substitutes for any of the foods you are currently eating if you need suggestions - many of the members of one of the other boards I mod have gluten problems; this is not an uncommon problem and I may have some work-arounds to offer you, should you require them. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

07-27-2009, 02:56 PM	#80
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,121	Yes, I do. And - weirdly enough - I still feel hungry. Not all starches do this to me. Just the gluten containing ones. White gluten containing ones are perhaps the worst, but it happens with all of them. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

07-27-2009, 03:10 PM	#81
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,121	I know oatmeal is the stuff of bodybuilding dietary legend, but if you suspect you are having trouble with gluten, stop ALL gluten containing foods for a while - including the iffy ones like rye, oats and spelt. I have a sister who is acutely ill from this finally getting to her, she's been hospitalized with Celiac and is heavily medicated for it - and in terrible pain daily. She pukes every morning, and has trouble with her digestive tract all day. She's wasted considerably. I believe I have this too, and I'm hoping that in avoiding gluten most of the time, my body may still allow me the occasional indiscretion of the odd piece of birthday cake, or to not have to worry about checking to see if my soy sauce contains wheat. Celiac is not an allergy - it is an autoimmune disease, and it is cumulative. The longer you ignore it, the worse it gets, until such point as you pretty much have to eat out of a kitchen-lab for the rest of your life. I am NOT diagnosing you - just offering you fair warning that this is NOT fun, it does NOT go away, it has NOTHING to do with "clean" vs. "dirty" carbs and it's not an allergy. It's a food intolerance, and my strong feeling is that it has become prevalent because our western diet has become so OVERdependend on wheat. Wheat, like all grain foods, did not evolve to be the perfect food for humans. It evolved to survive digestion and get crapped out a few miles up the field by the animal that ate it, as a means of propagation. In order to do this, it contains antinutrients, substances that interfere with ordinary digestion to ensure its viability. All plant foods have some level of antinutrition. We are admonished to consume a varied diet so as to ensure adequate nutrition, but it is just as important that we do so as minimize exposure to the individual antinutrients these foods contain. My strong feeling is that by flying under the radar, we may be able to avoid setting off the immune response that is virtually impossible to reset once activated. Eat what agrees with you. Potatoes, sweet potatoes, rice - try those. Try white rice; you may be surprised by the lack of reaction you have to this refined glucose polymer. (White rice is one of my favourite post workout carb sources) Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

07-27-2009, 03:21 PM	#82
HOOPIE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 182	Thanks a ton for the info Built! ADVANCED POWER/REP RANGE/SHOCK WARRIOR www.prrstraining.com

07-27-2009, 03:35 PM	#83
Built Bioidentical Bodybuilder Super Moderator Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: . Posts: 6,121	You're welcome. Believe me when I say I hope it's not relevant to your circumstance. Wondering where to start? Confused? This will get you started. Daredevils are Shredded Find out why... (Now you can find out why... in Hebrew!) UD2.Built - My UD2.0 setup.

07-27-2009, 10:43 PM	#84
HOOPIE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 182	FD/FS Training protocol Monday 7-27-09 Bi's BB Curl 125x3+1 125x3+1 (tempo 3/0/x) Hammer Preacher DB 35x3+3 35x3+3 (6/1/1) DB Preacher 35x8 (2/4/1) Last time had to help with ohter arm on last couple got all reps this time machine curls 60x32 rev. curl 55x25 ss with hammers 30x25 After being away from the gym for a week and a half do to illness, im very happy with this workout. there was an increase in some areas and finished reps in other parts.. Soo all in all a great workout.. ADVANCED POWER/REP RANGE/SHOCK WARRIOR www.prrstraining.com

07-29-2009, 12:12 AM	#86
HOOPIE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 182	Tuesdy 7-28-09 Cardio treadmill 25 minutes 10% incline at 3.6mph ADVANCED POWER/REP RANGE/SHOCK WARRIOR www.prrstraining.com

07-30-2009, 08:46 PM	#87
HOOPIE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 182	Thursday 7-30-09 BACK T-Bar (3/0/x) 180x4+2forced reps 180x4+2forced cg lat pulls (6/1/1) 230x3+3rest pause 230x3+3R/P DB rows (2/4/1) 80x7,7This was a ball buster WG lat pulls 110x40 110x35Freaking lats started screaming at rep'ish 20 and i was able to squeez out some more to 35. However the 36th rep i couldnt even budge to lower it GREAT workout and strength. I absolutely love FD/FS training and the tempos. ADVANCED POWER/REP RANGE/SHOCK WARRIOR www.prrstraining.com

07-31-2009, 03:10 PM	#89
HOOPIE Registered User Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: West Virginia Posts: 182	Friday 7-31-09 Tri's CG bench(3/0/x) 215x4+1 forced 215x3+1 skulls (6/1/1) 115x6+1 115x6+1 * doing skulls with a 6 second negative is freaking killer* DB overhead Ext(2/4/1) 25x7,7 V-bar pushdowns 50x40 RG pulldowns 50x30 Tri's are toast after this workout. The 6 second negatives with skulls was a new twist of pain but i liked it. ADVANCED POWER/REP RANGE/SHOCK WARRIOR www.prrstraining.com

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