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Double D · 11-05-2009, 08:53 PM

What gives out first, you back or legs?

Stewart14 · 11-07-2009, 12:47 PM

Nov 7

Squats
185 x 3
215 x 3
240 x 12

Barbell Curls
90 x 3
100 x 3
115 x 9

SLDL (RI=60 sec)
180 x 10
180 x 10
180 x 10

Lying Triceps Extensions (RI=60 sec)
60 x 10
60 x 10
60 x 10
60 x 10

Stewart14 · 11-07-2009, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Double D

What gives out first, you back or legs?

Hard to tell...probably my back just because I know my form is bad, but at this point, it's not worth fixing, cause I don't know if I can fix it to be honest. I'm just going back to my wide stance like I used for powerlifting when I got up to a 385 squat and that's that.

Double D · 11-07-2009, 01:35 PM

How often do you do direct core work. Also I read something by Alwyn Cosgrove not long back with core training....may want to google that

suprfast · 11-07-2009, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart14

Hard to tell...probably my back just because I know my form is bad, but at this point, it's not worth fixing, cause I don't know if I can fix it to be honest. I'm just going back to my wide stance like I used for powerlifting when I got up to a 385 squat and that's that.

I went back to the wide leg too, and the power seems so much better as well as my form. Digging the power lifting technique over the bodybuilding
kris

Stewart14 · 11-07-2009, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by suprfast

I went back to the wide leg too, and the power seems so much better as well as my form. Digging the power lifting technique over the bodybuilding
kris

yeah, it's much better for me, I just don't see the point in fighting it anymore just because some people say it isn't the right way. You know what, it might not be, but until I cripple myself, I'm going to keep doing it this way because in fact, I feel there is more of a chance to cripple myself if I try to squat the so called correct way.

My body leans too far forward with a close stance. I'm convinced it's my levers. Wide stance is the only way to keep my back somewhat upright.

Triple Threat · 11-07-2009, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart14

My body leans too far forward with a close stance.

I'm the same way. A wide stance feels more solid and stable than a close one.

Stewart14 · 11-07-2009, 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowmoomba

How's the back ?

sorry I missed this post ym....

back is alright i guess, it has it's good days and bad days, but overall, it's a lot better than when it first started bothering me a month or so ago.

Burner02 · 11-07-2009, 09:18 PM

when you say close stance, how close?
Last time I tried less than shoulder with, I jacked up my back...I stay at or a little wider than shoulder with...

Stewart14 · 11-07-2009, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Burner02

when you say close stance, how close?
Last time I tried less than shoulder with, I jacked up my back...I stay at or a little wider than shoulder with...

to me close stance is shoulder width. i tend to go a bit more than one and a half times shoulder width minimum for my comfy stance.

Burner02 · 11-07-2009, 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stewart14

to me close stance is shoulder width. i tend to go a bit more than one and a half times shoulder width minimum for my comfy stance.

nice.
HA! I just got busted by a co-worker. I was visualizing the stance width with my hands just now. Was thinking in my head: if this is MY shoulder width...(with hands in front of me at shoulder width...) and this would be should and half...while moving hands out to said width...
I looked up to see a co-worker giving me a quizzical look....

I could only say: What? scientific experiment...go back to your latte....

Archangel · 11-08-2009, 08:40 AM

Hey my Friend, there is no right or wrong stance in my opinion, we are all different and what works for me, may or may not work for you, just a difference of 1" can blow a back or knees out ya know!!! I go just wider than shoulder width, with my feet angled slightly out (toes pointing away from each other) and I drop my shoulders back and down (contracting the lats) so the bar can hit on the lower trap region, that helps me feel like I'm solid, and wont lean forward or back, and the bar is over my butt and heels, not knees so I'm in good form, hope that made sense!!! Your doin great anyway imo!!!

Stewart14 · 11-08-2009, 12:02 PM

Nov 8

Incline Bench Press
195 x 3
225 x 3
250 x 10

Seated OH Press
135 x 3
150 x 3
170 x 10

Chest Supported Rows (RI=60 sec)
110 x 10
110 x 10
110 x 10

Neutral Grip Pulldowns (RI=60 sec)
115 x 10
115 x 10
115 x 10

Double D · 11-09-2009, 05:20 PM

250 for 10? Damn wild hair!

Stewart14 · 11-10-2009, 03:57 PM

Nov 10

Squats
135 x 5
185 x 5
215 x 5
250 x 5
285 x 5

Bench Press
135 x 5
175 x 5
205 x 5
240 x 5
275 x 5

Chest Supported Rows
90 x 5
105 x 5
125 x 5
145 x 5
165 x 5

Decline Crunches
BW+35 x 12
BW+35 x 12

Stewart14 · 11-12-2009, 02:44 PM

Nov 12

Incline Bench Press
135 x 5
155 x 5
185 x 5
215 x 5
250 x 3

Chest Supported Rows
90 x 5
105 x 5
125 x 5
145 x 5
167.5 x 3

Seated OH Press
95 x 5
115 x 5
140 x 5
165 x 5
190 x 3

Chinups
BW x 5
BW x 5
BW x 5
BW+5 x 5
BW+45 x 3

Stewart14 · 11-13-2009, 05:43 PM

Nov 13

Squats
215 x 5
215 x 5
215 x 5
215 x 5
215 x 5

Bench Press
185 x 5
195 x 5
210 x 5
225 x 5
240 x 5

Chest Supported Rows
105 x 5
110 x 5
120 x 5
125 x 5
135 x 5

yellowmoomba · 11-13-2009, 08:44 PM

How's the squats go ?

Stewart14 · 11-13-2009, 09:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yellowmoomba

How's the squats go ?

well the good news is that today they felt perfect. form was top notch and i was even going way below parallel with a lot closer stance than i usually use. the bad news is that it was only 215 pounds. We'll see how things go when the weights go up in the next couple of weeks

suprfast · 11-14-2009, 01:35 AM

looking good stewart. Any difference in feel thus far from the change in routine?
kris

underblanket · 11-14-2009, 05:28 AM

Interesting discussion is going down over there. Hope i would get some thing which i need . Thanks a lot for all the posts.

Stewart14 · 11-15-2009, 11:48 AM

Nov 15

Sumo Deadlifts
275 x 5
275 x 5
275 x 5
275 x 5
275 x 5

Seated OH Press
135 x 5
135 x 5
135 x 5
135 x 5
135 x 5

Chinups
BW+40 x 5
BW+40 x 5
BW+40 x 5
BW+40 x 5
BW+40 x 5

Triple Threat · 11-16-2009, 11:29 AM

The squats couldn't have inflicted too much damage if you were able to DL 2 days later.

11-07-2009, 12:47 PM	#122
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11-07-2009, 09:18 PM	#129
Burner02 Super Hero in Training Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Kabul, Afghanistan Posts: 29,648	when you say close stance, how close? Last time I tried less than shoulder with, I jacked up my back...I stay at or a little wider than shoulder with... Success leaves clues. People who produce outstanding results do specific things to create those results Nobody cares what you did yesterday or what you are going to do tomorrow. What is important is what you are doing NOW to solve our problem THERE IS NO TOMORROW! - Appollo Creed

11-08-2009, 08:40 AM	#132
Archangel High Intensity Freak Elite Member Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: Intensity Island Posts: 10,532 Photos: 4	Hey my Friend, there is no right or wrong stance in my opinion, we are all different and what works for me, may or may not work for you, just a difference of 1" can blow a back or knees out ya know!!! I go just wider than shoulder width, with my feet angled slightly out (toes pointing away from each other) and I drop my shoulders back and down (contracting the lats) so the bar can hit on the lower trap region, that helps me feel like I'm solid, and wont lean forward or back, and the bar is over my butt and heels, not knees so I'm in good form, hope that made sense!!! Your doin great anyway imo!!! "I can do ALL things through Christ, who strengthens me" - Philippians 4:13 "For NOTHING is impossible with GOD" - Luke 1:37

11-08-2009, 12:02 PM	#133
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,610 Photos: 2	Nov 8 Incline Bench Press 195 x 3 225 x 3 250 x 10 Seated OH Press 135 x 3 150 x 3 170 x 10 Chest Supported Rows (RI=60 sec) 110 x 10 110 x 10 110 x 10 Neutral Grip Pulldowns (RI=60 sec) 115 x 10 115 x 10 115 x 10 http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

11-10-2009, 03:57 PM	#135
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,610 Photos: 2	Nov 10 Squats 135 x 5 185 x 5 215 x 5 250 x 5 285 x 5 Bench Press 135 x 5 175 x 5 205 x 5 240 x 5 275 x 5 Chest Supported Rows 90 x 5 105 x 5 125 x 5 145 x 5 165 x 5 Decline Crunches BW+35 x 12 BW+35 x 12 http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

11-05-2009, 08:53 PM	#121
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,460 Photos: 1	What gives out first, you back or legs?

11-07-2009, 01:35 PM	#124
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,460 Photos: 1	How often do you do direct core work. Also I read something by Alwyn Cosgrove not long back with core training....may want to google that

11-09-2009, 05:20 PM	#134
Double D Senior Member Elite Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: Illinois Posts: 10,460 Photos: 1	250 for 10? Damn wild hair!

11-12-2009, 02:44 PM	#136
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,610 Photos: 2	Nov 12 Incline Bench Press 135 x 5 155 x 5 185 x 5 215 x 5 250 x 3 Chest Supported Rows 90 x 5 105 x 5 125 x 5 145 x 5 167.5 x 3 Seated OH Press 95 x 5 115 x 5 140 x 5 165 x 5 190 x 3 Chinups BW x 5 BW x 5 BW x 5 BW+5 x 5 BW+45 x 3 http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

11-13-2009, 05:43 PM	#137
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,610 Photos: 2	Nov 13 Squats 215 x 5 215 x 5 215 x 5 215 x 5 215 x 5 Bench Press 185 x 5 195 x 5 210 x 5 225 x 5 240 x 5 Chest Supported Rows 105 x 5 110 x 5 120 x 5 125 x 5 135 x 5 http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

11-13-2009, 08:44 PM	#138
yellowmoomba YM Elite Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 6,287 Photos: 2	How's the squats go ? http://www.ironmagazineforums.com/on...-bag-work.html "You are born small and weak... you die small and weak... how you look in between is up to you."

11-14-2009, 01:35 AM	#140
suprfast Registered User Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Merced, ca Posts: 390	looking good stewart. Any difference in feel thus far from the change in routine? kris 5'8" 207 lbs 225lbs(6.8.09)/207lbs(10.22.09) looking for 200lbs in 25 weeks(a pound a week) Exercise Examples

11-14-2009, 05:28 AM	#141
underblanket Registered User Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: USA Posts: 1	Interesting discussion is going down over there. Hope i would get some thing which i need . Thanks a lot for all the posts.

11-15-2009, 11:48 AM	#142
Stewart14 Weapon of Choice Elite Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: in my home gym Posts: 3,610 Photos: 2	Nov 15 Sumo Deadlifts 275 x 5 275 x 5 275 x 5 275 x 5 275 x 5 Seated OH Press 135 x 5 135 x 5 135 x 5 135 x 5 135 x 5 Chinups BW+40 x 5 BW+40 x 5 BW+40 x 5 BW+40 x 5 BW+40 x 5 http://futuretrainer.blogspot.com/ --My new blog!!

11-16-2009, 11:29 AM	#143
Triple Threat End of the world Elite Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Lost Posts: 10,444 Photos: 6	The squats couldn't have inflicted too much damage if you were able to DL 2 days later.

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