LESLIE'S (aka FF) BULK

w8lifter · 11-27-2002, 10:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
*control freak*

DP

Yes...I know you are

Leslie · 11-27-2002, 11:18 PM

Meal 1
1/2 c oats
1 tbsp cream w/ coffee
2 oz chicken
4 egg whites

Meal 2
Protein shake w/ banana

Meal 3
6 oz chicken
3/4 c rice
1 tbsp flax
veggies

Meal 4
protein shake w/ banana

CHEAT
2 fuqing butter cookies

Meal 5
4 oz top round
2 oz chicken
3/4 c rice
veggies

Meal 6
tuna
2 tsp flax
veggies

1 chocolate muncking pre w/o (BF MADE ME

)
1 iced coffee w/ cream Pre w/
1 diet coke
4 packets sweetner

GYM was Back/bis/abs

CLPgold · 11-27-2002, 11:19 PM

Just checkin in late night. I gotta get my tired butt to bed before 1:00am hopefully tonight.

Good Night.

Leslie · 11-27-2002, 11:20 PM

Same here!

(doesnt loook good though)

Good Night CLP

Dr. Pain · 11-28-2002, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie2196

CHEAT
2 fuqing butter cookies

1 chocolate muncking pre w/o (BF MADE ME

)
1 iced coffee w/ cream Pre w/
1 diet coke
4 packets sweetner

WTF....is everyone out of control?

BF made me....good one Leslie.......

(need totals)

DP

CLPgold · 12-01-2002, 03:24 PM

Hi Leslie

Leslie · 12-02-2002, 08:49 AM

I am back, and more bloated.
These four days have been HELL with my meals, sleep, and relaxation. My dogs presented a big problem for a place to stay and late hours and not enough meals fuqed up my meal plans..not to mention the fuqing TRAFFIC getting home! I am on almost 3 hrs of sleep with NOTHING to do here at work. I am going to DIE

I did make the gym Fri so my workouts were complete. I also managed to get seriously PLASTERED on Saturday night~shots, vodka, apple martinis, and lord knows what else

Went to Ruth Chris Steakhouse for my 4 yr anniversary and now look at steak in a different light. It was the FUQING BOMB!!

I also thought I was getting engaged this weekend, but that didnt happen

LOL

FUQ work, FUQ food,

I want coffee and my bed!!

Dr. Pain · 12-02-2002, 12:52 PM

Don't forget to weigh-in soon

DP

Leslie · 12-02-2002, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
Don't forget to weigh-in soon

DP

I am glad u are amused

And uh, I don't own a scale

Is it Tuesday tommorow already?! FUQ N A!:hopeless:

Leslie · 12-03-2002, 09:07 AM

Ok weigh in tonight. Probably wont be pretty. yesterday was a crappy day overall, worked all day on 3 hr sleep and cleaned my house~it looked like abomb went off~ and my meals were far and in between, not to mention the, oh well nevermind. It dont matter

Anyhoo, I got back my show pics (I really got to analyze myself-good and bad)and I am now refocused, again..I like the fact its a new month, a fresh start blah blah blah....I am thinking of doind the Hawaiin Tropic contest or another Figure contest depending on what happens to my body. There are no dates for either yet, but both will be springtime.....

800am
coffee w/ 1 tbsp cream
1/2 c cottage cheese
couple oz's? roasted Turkey breast
1 apple

1045am
2 scoops Designer
2 tbsp cream
1 banana

Totals 671 16F 58C 76P

Leslie · 12-03-2002, 09:57 AM

Ok my shake came out all watery n shit GRRRR AND most of my banana was all brown n mushy, so I only had 2/3.............

Oh well
I had asked about 7 meals in a nother thread, but I will ask here also.....What are your thoughts on SEVEN meals??

Twin Peak · 12-03-2002, 10:06 AM

As opposed to six? Does it really matter one way or the other? Just go with what makes you feel better physically and emotionally. Nothing wrong with constant grazing.

Leslie · 12-03-2002, 10:10 AM

I don't know if the amount of meals is important..I guess the calories are....2300 cals is what I am going for.....I just find I am always looking to eat ( I am a pig I know) I have more of an appetite than my man

Constant grazing would=more fuel for the metabolism correct?
Thanks TP
BTW, awesome quotes

and how did you get your fitday link up? I tried but it only brings the homepage....

Twin Peak · 12-03-2002, 10:26 AM

You've got to make your journal public.

Leslie · 12-03-2002, 10:30 AM

Ah, Now I see

http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...ner=Leslie2196

Dr. Pain · 12-03-2002, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie2196
Ok my shake came out all watery n shit GRRRR AND most of my banana was all brown n mushy, so I only had 2/3.............

Oh well
I had asked about 7 meals in a nother thread, but I will ask here also.....What are your thoughts on SEVEN meals??

Leslie...see w8's journals for info on 7 meals. We are trying to get her calories up by a seventh meal or a shake halfway through her "beauty sleep cycle"

For you...we don't even know where you are yet....., so w8...however...I can tell you that "constant grazing" is very much against the concepts of a "Clean Bulk"....where we are still trying to control your insulin/glucagon levels!

DP

Twin Peak · 12-03-2002, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dr. Pain
I can tell you that "constant grazing" is very much against the concepts of a "Clean Bulk"....where we are still trying to control your insulin/glucagon levels!

DP

DP, this is interesting, can you explain it further. How does it matter in a significant/real way, assuming that total calories are the same?

Assuming you point is that each time you eat carbs you are effecting metabolism and various hormone levels, doesn't your point disappear if the added grazing is merely on non-carb items?

Leslie · 12-03-2002, 11:15 AM

and also.....

I figured the totals for the womans bulk.......it comes to:

2270 cals 215P 90F 150C PLUS the biweekly Carb Up

I guess I should work with this or should I bump something a lil up since I am a big gal?? HELP PLEASE

Dr. Pain · 12-03-2002, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Twin Peak
DP, this is interesting, can you explain it further. How does it matter in a significant/real way, assuming that total calories are the same?

Assuming you point is that each time you eat carbs you are effecting metabolism and various hormone levels, doesn't your point disappear if the added grazing is merely on non-carb items?

We had some posting on this and some subsequent debates which I am not going through again.

Point is that Insulin is a "tiered response"......grazing would only serve to elvate insulin levels more and more (we also posted on the (glucogenic nature of protein). While we are not as concerned about the fact that lipolysis does not occur w/higher insulin levels as we are on cut. We ARE concerned that lipogenesis does!

If you want to bulk "Cleanly" don't graze

(we also posted on gastic emptying, with much disagreement)

DP

Twin Peak · 12-03-2002, 11:41 AM

Hmmm, if by the use of WE you mean you and I, I must have been sleeping through those discussions/debates, cuz I don't remember hitting these specifc topics, and I don't even know what gastic emptying is so am surprised to learn that I disagreed with your views on it.

Oh well. I was not looking to be a pain in the ass with this inquiry.

Dr. Pain · 12-03-2002, 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Leslie2196
and also.....

I figured the totals for the womans bulk.......it comes to:

2270 cals 215P 90F 150C PLUS the biweekly Carb Up

I guess I should work with this or should I bump something a lil up since I am a big gal?? HELP PLEASE

Leslie

Calm th FUCK down!

We know you are a planner....but we don't know whether you are on the Ass Train or the Butt Train until we get your BW.......

and you don't want any part of the C Train!

DP

Dr. Pain · 12-03-2002, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Twin Peak
Hmmm, if by the use of WE you mean you and I, I must have been sleeping through those discussions/debates, cuz I don't remember hitting these specifc topics, and I don't even know what gastic emptying is so am surprised to learn that I disagreed with your views on it.

Oh well. I was not looking to be a pain in the ass with this inquiry.

Sorry for the tone, "We" is the proverbial "Collective WE".....and the tone was aimed at those who love/live to argue. I was still trying to be imformative.....

I apologize...and should further clarify that information applies more to the 3 out of 4 IR (insulin resitant) people out there as opposed to those with what clinicians would call "normal" metabolisms.

(becoming 4 out of 5)

DP

Dr. Pain · 12-03-2002, 11:50 AM

Additionally...the inference was that it was part of "Public Record!"

DP

Twin Peak · 12-03-2002, 01:15 PM

That's fine, and I was picking up on the tone. I know that you were referring to people the like to argue for arguments sake. Actually, that is what I took issue with since I don't believe I am one of those people and further don't believe that I have conducted myself that way, so I was displeased with the thought that you believed I was currently acting that way.

I'm over it.

Leslie · 12-03-2002, 01:55 PM

Moving along.........

12/3/02

800am
coffee w/ 1 tbsp cream
1/2 c cottage cheese
couple oz's? roasted Turkey breast
1 apple

1045am
2 scoops Designer
2 tbsp cream
1/2 banana

130pm
3 oz chicken (wt cooked)
1/3 c lean ground beef
1 c brown rice
1 tsp flax
1 c green beans w/ ACV

430pm
1 can tuna
1 tbsp flax
green beans w/ ACV

730pm
6 oz cooked chicken
1 tbsp flax
6-7 oz Sweet Potato
green beans w/ ACV

1030pm
4 oz cooked top sirloin (lean)
3 egg whites and 2 whole eggs
green beans w/ ACV

Totals:
2370 cals 79F 155C 242P

Well?

Leslie · 12-03-2002, 03:07 PM

SO far so good.....

No cravings either....suprisingly.
I think I am FINALLY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

11-27-2002, 11:18 PM	#32
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	11/27/01 Meal 1 1/2 c oats 1 tbsp cream w/ coffee 2 oz chicken 4 egg whites Meal 2 Protein shake w/ banana Meal 3 6 oz chicken 3/4 c rice 1 tbsp flax veggies Meal 4 protein shake w/ banana CHEAT 2 fuqing butter cookies Meal 5 4 oz top round 2 oz chicken 3/4 c rice veggies Meal 6 tuna 2 tsp flax veggies 1 chocolate muncking pre w/o (BF MADE ME ) 1 iced coffee w/ cream Pre w/ 1 diet coke 4 packets sweetner GYM was Back/bis/abs
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11-27-2002, 11:19 PM	#33
CLPgold Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ON Posts: 718	Just checkin in late night. I gotta get my tired butt to bed before 1:00am hopefully tonight. Good Night.
	A chic on the move.

11-27-2002, 11:20 PM	#34
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Same here! (doesnt loook good though) Good Night CLP
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12-01-2002, 03:24 PM	#36
CLPgold Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ON Posts: 718	Hi Leslie
	A chic on the move.

12-02-2002, 08:49 AM	#37
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	I am back, and more bloated. These four days have been HELL with my meals, sleep, and relaxation. My dogs presented a big problem for a place to stay and late hours and not enough meals fuqed up my meal plans..not to mention the fuqing TRAFFIC getting home! I am on almost 3 hrs of sleep with NOTHING to do here at work. I am going to DIE I did make the gym Fri so my workouts were complete. I also managed to get seriously PLASTERED on Saturday night~shots, vodka, apple martinis, and lord knows what else Went to Ruth Chris Steakhouse for my 4 yr anniversary and now look at steak in a different light. It was the FUQING BOMB!! I also thought I was getting engaged this weekend, but that didnt happen LOL FUQ work, FUQ food, I want coffee and my bed!!
	Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

12-02-2002, 12:52 PM	#38
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Don't forget to weigh-in soon DP

12-03-2002, 09:07 AM	#40
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Ok weigh in tonight. Probably wont be pretty. yesterday was a crappy day overall, worked all day on 3 hr sleep and cleaned my house~it looked like abomb went off~ and my meals were far and in between, not to mention the, oh well nevermind. It dont matter Anyhoo, I got back my show pics (I really got to analyze myself-good and bad)and I am now refocused, again..I like the fact its a new month, a fresh start blah blah blah....I am thinking of doind the Hawaiin Tropic contest or another Figure contest depending on what happens to my body. There are no dates for either yet, but both will be springtime..... 800am coffee w/ 1 tbsp cream 1/2 c cottage cheese couple oz's? roasted Turkey breast 1 apple 1045am 2 scoops Designer 2 tbsp cream 1 banana Totals 671 16F 58C 76P Last edited by Leslie : 12-03-2002 at 09:13 AM.
	Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

12-03-2002, 09:57 AM	#41
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Ok my shake came out all watery n shit GRRRR AND most of my banana was all brown n mushy, so I only had 2/3............. Oh well I had asked about 7 meals in a nother thread, but I will ask here also.....What are your thoughts on SEVEN meals?? Last edited by Leslie : 12-03-2002 at 10:01 AM.
	Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

12-03-2002, 10:06 AM	#42
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	As opposed to six? Does it really matter one way or the other? Just go with what makes you feel better physically and emotionally. Nothing wrong with constant grazing.
	www.DesignerSupps.com INTELLIGENT DESIGN™...lands on 1/1/2007 www.intelligentdesignmag.com

12-03-2002, 10:10 AM	#43
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	I don't know if the amount of meals is important..I guess the calories are....2300 cals is what I am going for.....I just find I am always looking to eat ( I am a pig I know) I have more of an appetite than my man Constant grazing would=more fuel for the metabolism correct? Thanks TP BTW, awesome quotes and how did you get your fitday link up? I tried but it only brings the homepage....
	Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

12-03-2002, 10:26 AM	#44
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	You've got to make your journal public.
	www.DesignerSupps.com INTELLIGENT DESIGN™...lands on 1/1/2007 www.intelligentdesignmag.com

12-03-2002, 10:30 AM	#45
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Ah, Now I see http://www.fitday.com/WebFit/PublicJ...ner=Leslie2196
	Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

12-03-2002, 11:15 AM	#48
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	and also..... I figured the totals for the womans bulk.......it comes to: 2270 cals 215P 90F 150C PLUS the biweekly Carb Up I guess I should work with this or should I bump something a lil up since I am a big gal?? HELP PLEASE
	Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

12-03-2002, 11:41 AM	#50
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	Hmmm, if by the use of WE you mean you and I, I must have been sleeping through those discussions/debates, cuz I don't remember hitting these specifc topics, and I don't even know what gastic emptying is so am surprised to learn that I disagreed with your views on it. Oh well. I was not looking to be a pain in the ass with this inquiry.
	www.DesignerSupps.com INTELLIGENT DESIGN™...lands on 1/1/2007 www.intelligentdesignmag.com

12-03-2002, 11:50 AM	#53
Dr. Pain Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Get the Duct Tape...I'm Ripped Again! Posts: 11,239	Additionally...the inference was that it was part of "Public Record!" DP

12-03-2002, 01:15 PM	#54
Twin Peak Peak Physiques™ Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: NY Posts: 7,870	That's fine, and I was picking up on the tone. I know that you were referring to people the like to argue for arguments sake. Actually, that is what I took issue with since I don't believe I am one of those people and further don't believe that I have conducted myself that way, so I was displeased with the thought that you believed I was currently acting that way. I'm over it.
	www.DesignerSupps.com INTELLIGENT DESIGN™...lands on 1/1/2007 www.intelligentdesignmag.com

12-03-2002, 01:55 PM	#55
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	Moving along......... 12/3/02 800am coffee w/ 1 tbsp cream 1/2 c cottage cheese couple oz's? roasted Turkey breast 1 apple 1045am 2 scoops Designer 2 tbsp cream 1/2 banana 130pm 3 oz chicken (wt cooked) 1/3 c lean ground beef 1 c brown rice 1 tsp flax 1 c green beans w/ ACV 430pm 1 can tuna 1 tbsp flax green beans w/ ACV 730pm 6 oz cooked chicken 1 tbsp flax 6-7 oz Sweet Potato green beans w/ ACV 1030pm 4 oz cooked top sirloin (lean) 3 egg whites and 2 whole eggs green beans w/ ACV Totals: 2370 cals 79F 155C 242P Well? Last edited by Leslie : 12-03-2002 at 02:43 PM.
	Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com

12-03-2002, 03:07 PM	#56
Leslie DOWNSIZING Elite Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Jersey Girl Posts: 2,911 Photos: 11	SO far so good..... No cravings either....suprisingly. I think I am FINALLY BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
	Leslie My Journal My Sponsor:www.AvantLabs.com